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Title: Kids with lasers?
Post by: Jayclark on December 29, 2004, 08:37:19 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/12/29/laser.plane/

It claims it could be kids with lasers but they said it came from a suburb 15 miles away. I never seen a kids laser go that far.
Title: Kids with lasers?
Post by: hawker238 on December 29, 2004, 09:42:41 PM
Beats the sharks with freakin' laser beams.
Title: Kids with lasers?
Post by: Jayclark on December 29, 2004, 09:46:13 PM
:D
Title: Kids with lasers?
Post by: majic on December 29, 2004, 10:24:57 PM
What was that Clancy novel where they brought down planes by blinding the pilots?
Title: Kids with lasers?
Post by: Nash on December 29, 2004, 10:37:22 PM
http://www.judicialwatch.org/cases/77/DalyComplaint.htm
Title: Kids with lasers?
Post by: LePaul on December 29, 2004, 11:23:29 PM
You dont mean those silly laser pointers, do you?  

Drive cats nuts, sure.  But remain focused, and that precisely aimed to shine in a cockpit?  Eeeesh, that's a reach
Title: Kids with lasers?
Post by: Gunslinger on December 30, 2004, 02:16:44 AM
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Originally posted by majic
What was that Clancy novel where they brought down planes by blinding the pilots?


at first I thaught "without remorse" because it was clark that was involved

Now I'm thinking it was "debt of honor" I think that one was about the secret war against japan.
Title: Kids with lasers?
Post by: Sundowner on December 30, 2004, 09:21:02 AM
This is not your typical laser pointer......

http://64.252.62.40.nyud.net:8090/lasershoppe/index.htm



Burns through a plastic cup in seconds....

http://www.onewavedesigns.com/laser/burningcup.mpg



Sun
Title: Kids with lasers?
Post by: Red Tail 444 on December 30, 2004, 11:54:05 AM
Uh-oh

Time for a new terror color code...What color is "blind?"

Seems to me some kiddos got into the military surplus and walked off with some MIB bling bling...

Does anyone really believe this is a terrorist activity? Felony, yes, but Al-Qaeda? Get real.

:lol
Title: Kids with lasers?
Post by: SunTracker on December 30, 2004, 12:05:02 PM
Soviets shot down at least two U.S. C-54s with spotlights as they were landing.
Title: Kids with lasers?
Post by: Heretik on December 30, 2004, 01:44:54 PM
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
at first I thaught "without remorse" because it was clark that was involved

Now I'm thinking it was "debt of honor" I think that one was about the secret war against japan.


Debt of Honor sounds right.  At any rate it's the same book that has the suicide airline pilot that takes out the capitol.
Title: Kids with lasers?
Post by: hawker238 on December 30, 2004, 02:23:59 PM
It ain't Without Remorse, that's the one where he kills all the pimps.
Title: Kids with lasers?
Post by: StarOfAfrica2 on December 30, 2004, 03:21:50 PM
Please.  They have been selling plans for industrial lasers in the back of Popular Science for 20+ years.  High powered lasers figured prominently in the design for the "Star Wars" missile defense system.  That was in the 80's!  Dont tell me they are just now figuring out a laser could be dangerous to commercial airliners??
Title: Kids with lasers?
Post by: JoOwEn on December 30, 2004, 04:01:52 PM
hold still while I hurl this rock at you.

whats this thread about, oh yeah lasers. lasers sure are accurate.
Title: Kids with lasers?
Post by: Lizking on December 30, 2004, 04:10:14 PM
A common construction laser has the range, and costs a grand or 2.
Title: Kids with lasers?
Post by: mosgood on December 30, 2004, 04:13:02 PM
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Originally posted by StarOfAfrica2
Please.  They have been selling plans for industrial lasers in the back of Popular Science for 20+ years.  High powered lasers figured prominently in the design for the "Star Wars" missile defense system.  That was in the 80's!  Dont tell me they are just now figuring out a laser could be dangerous to commercial airliners??



wasn't to long ago they JUST figured out how dangerous commercial airliners were to buildings......
Title: Kids with lasers?
Post by: StarOfAfrica2 on December 30, 2004, 05:00:37 PM
Well, considering that the Japanese figured out a small fighter fully loaded with regular gasoline could do major damage to an armor plated, steel naval vessel 60 years ago, it couldnt have taken much of a leap of imagination to figure out a jumbo jet fully loaded with jet fuel could do some harsh damage to a concrete over steel structure.  Chalk it up to either naivite or simply not thinking that way combined with 200+ years of not being attacked on our own soil to allow it to happen.  Too bad we cant go back to thinking that way.
Title: Kids with lasers?
Post by: Lizking on December 30, 2004, 06:00:02 PM
Uh, Star, you say you live in Hawaii.  Don't you consider that American soil?  We won't even bother with all the attacks on the US mainland in the past 200 years.
Title: Kids with lasers?
Post by: Mickey1992 on January 04, 2005, 01:57:46 PM
The difference with these cheap green lasers is that you can see the beam in clear weather.  It's not like the red laser where you can just see where the dot is.  It is much easier to point the green laser at a distant object when you can see the beam.

Anyway, they caught the bastard.  The SOB even tried to pin it on his daughter.

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Man Charged With Aiming Laser at Aircraft

2 hours, 31 minutes ago   U.S. National - AP

By WAYNE PARRY, Associated Press Writer

NEWARK, N.J. - A man who initially claimed his daughter aimed a laser at a helicopter was charged after he told federal agents that he pointed the light beam at two aircraft, authorities said Tuesday.

David Banach of Parsippany faces charges of interfering with the operator of a mass transportation vehicle and making false statements to the FBI (news - web sites). He is scheduled to appear in U.S. District Court on Tuesday afternoon.

The aircraft were targeted by the lasers near Teterboro Airport.

On Wednesday night, a pilot preparing to land a chartered jet with 13 people aboard reported seeing three green laser beams about 11 miles from the airport. On Friday, a helicopter carrying Port Authority detectives was hit by a beam as they surveyed the area in an attempt to pinpoint the origin of the original beams.

The two incidents were among a rash of recent reports of lasers allegedly aimed at aircraft, raising fears that the light beams could temporarily blind crew members and lead to accidents. Last month the FBI and the Homeland Security Department sent a memo to law enforcement agencies saying there is evidence that terrorists have explored using lasers as weapons, though federal law enforcement officials have said there is no evidence of any terrorist plot in the current incidents.

According to court papers, under questioning Banach admitted lying and said he shined a laser beam at both the jet and the helicopter. He has not been charged in the helicopter incident.

His lawyer, Gina Mendola-Longarzo, did not immediately return a phone call seeking comment Tuesday.

The chartered jet was flying at about 3,000 feet when the pilot and co-pilot saw a green laser beam strike the windshield three times, according to court documents filed Tuesday. The flash blinded the two temporarily, but they were later able to land the plane safely.

After the helicopter crew also reported seeing laser beams, FBI agents canvassed Banach's neighborhood trying. Banach told the agents it was his daughter who shined a beam at the helicopter, according to court papers. He denied the laser was in use when the jet had passed nearby. But later, Banach submitted to a lie detector test and eventually said he shined the laser beam at both aircraft, according to the court papers. The papers did not give any alleged motive.
Title: Kids with lasers?
Post by: JB73 on January 04, 2005, 02:23:27 PM
ya read that.

what a P O S blaming his daughter for his deeds.

shouldnt be allowed to have children if you are going to act that way.
Title: Kids with lasers?
Post by: Rino on January 04, 2005, 06:39:28 PM
You know last Friday was a pretty quiet night on the MMU
ramp until the Port Authority guys came in and dumped 2 guys.

     Turns out the guys were the detectives and the S-76 was
the one that had pinpointed the address of the laser moron.
Glad to know they caught that bonehead.