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Title: UN? LOL. Where is France? Germany?? Russia???
Post by: NUKE on December 29, 2004, 10:54:12 PM
http://apnews.excite.com/article/20041230/D879O1980.html (http://)

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President Bush assembled a four-nation coalition to organize humanitarian relief for Asia and made clear Wednesday the United States will help bankroll long-term rebuilding in the region leveled by a massive earthquake and tsunamis.


Seems like the US has "bypassed" the respected UN once again....to everyone's horror
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Post by: wombatt on December 29, 2004, 11:22:32 PM
LOL Russia says it will no longer give free rides to US astronauts
going to space staion .
My guess is they cant afford to help SE Asia.
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Post by: -tronski- on December 30, 2004, 01:33:06 AM
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Originally posted by NUKE
http://apnews.excite.com/article/20041230/D879O1980.html (http://)

Seems like the US has "bypassed" the respected UN once again....to everyone's horror


wtg using a global disaster to further voice your sad petty little grievances :aok  

 Tronsky
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Post by: Fishu on December 30, 2004, 02:02:15 AM
Nuke,

Have you also looked at that what the invidual countries have done, outside of the UN?
Remember that the USA is part of the UN, why didn't they push it in there?
Oh yeah, you can act alone too and blame the UN instead.
Other countries might have acted on their own, but they are not blaming the UN for it.
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Post by: Regular on December 30, 2004, 02:35:08 AM
They busy brewing badazz booze!!!

Keep it ETIHW???:confused:
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Post by: Redwing on December 30, 2004, 03:59:46 AM
NUKE, just fyi

Initial aid from germany has been raised to 20 million euro yesterday, that's about 27 million USD. The US contributed 35 million USD in an initial aid package.
These numbers change everyday though, and I can't be bothered right now to make sure they're up to date.

Granted, the US government contributed more, but please don't make it sound like the rest of the world is just standing by.
I'm not and my government isn't either, I just don't have a say in how many my government contributes.

I donated everything I was going to invest in fireworks this year.
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Post by: lada on December 30, 2004, 05:36:01 AM
Hey moment... i saw Russia to form alliance to help SE asia few days ago...  Why US didnt join ?????

:rolleyes:
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Post by: lada on December 30, 2004, 05:38:38 AM
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Originally posted by wombatt

My guess is they cant afford to help SE Asia.


My guess is that Russian, Japan, Germany,France& the other dont have to run Show in USA for Tv eaters do they ?

edit: While Bush is forming some useless formal coalition, other already helping.

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AP reported Wednesday that four relief planes arrived in Sri Lanka's capital, Colombo, bringing a surgical hospital from Finland, a water purification plant from Germany, doctors and medicine from Japan and aid workers from Britain.

http://www.christianpost.com/article/asia/607/section/south.asia.death.toll.surpasses.76700/1.htm

lol one more nice link
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/afp_world/view/124763/1/.html


well it is so easy to find a lot of links about other countries and SE Asia.
I think some people here only flameing w/o any attempt to get some real informations.
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Post by: lada on December 30, 2004, 05:48:48 AM
I think that potencial leader and coordinator should be Spain

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As of Wednesday evening, more than $250 million had been pledged from countries around the world. The biggest single contribution announced so far was $68 million from Spain.


http://www.nbc5.com/news/4031812/detail.html?z=dp&dpswid=1167317&dppid=65194
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Post by: Eagler on December 30, 2004, 05:58:07 AM
I don't care where it comes from or how it gets there as long as the aid arrives for these devastated souls

to throw egos around on any side during this disaster is a sin

if we are not able to see each other as brothers now when would we be???

open ur hearts, ur minds, ur checkbooks and pray

close your ignorant thinking
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Post by: nuchpatrick on December 30, 2004, 07:06:09 AM
Not to beat our own drum..but some people forget that Florida was knocked out by 4 hurricanes. The total repairs for will run into the billions.. People still do not have roofs or jobs that are no longer here... Theres no free money to help rebuild our state.. yet we'll be sending millions of dollars to help the effected areas Asia.  Perhaps you guys should dwell on that as well...
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Post by: AKS\/\/ulfe on December 30, 2004, 07:09:26 AM
Retards.
-SW
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Post by: Glas on December 30, 2004, 07:11:28 AM
Nuke, your a 'tard :rolleyes:

Continue reporting the bullsh*t you obviously read, you ignorant, sad f*ck.#

Imagine trying to score points over a disaster like this.  I hope your proud of yourself.
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Post by: Dago on December 30, 2004, 07:17:32 AM
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Originally posted by lada
run Show in USA for Tv eaters do they ?

 

People eat TVs???
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Post by: Dago on December 30, 2004, 07:18:24 AM
Swimming lessons!  I say get all them Asians swimming lessons!

dago
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Post by: storch on December 30, 2004, 07:28:04 AM
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Originally posted by nuchpatrick
Not to beat our own drum..but some people forget that Florida was knocked out by 4 hurricanes. The total repairs for will run into the billions.. People still do not have roofs or jobs that are no longer here... Theres no free money to help rebuild our state.. yet we'll be sending millions of dollars to help the effected areas Asia.  Perhaps you guys should dwell on that as well...


hear hear
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Post by: AKS\/\/ulfe on December 30, 2004, 07:39:30 AM
Ah horse****. Florida's damage was to homes and business, the damage in Asia is far more than that and growing worse by the hour.
-SW
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Post by: Nilsen on December 30, 2004, 07:58:29 AM
The hurricanes that hit Florida was without a doubt devestating and tragic to those it affected. Some doesnt have jobs?  Well, atleast they have water, food, shelter and hospitals.

This is something far worse tho, not only the lives lost but many places that was hit was poor to begin with. Florida isnt a poor state compared to places like Sri Lanka.
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Post by: guttboy on December 30, 2004, 09:06:44 AM
Someone once said....

"If you cant say anything nice....well...dont say anything at all"


Food for thought....

Ok now thats of my chest....did you all know that when the massive flooding happened several years ago in the Mississippi river area there was a country that offered help to us....

Anyone care to guess which one it was and what they offered????

Regards....btw this is NOT a troll
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Post by: NUKE on December 30, 2004, 09:11:37 AM
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Originally posted by Glas
Nuke, your a 'tard :rolleyes:

Continue reporting the bullsh*t you obviously read, you ignorant, sad f*ck.#

Imagine trying to score points over a disaster like this.  I hope your proud of yourself.



Personal attack. Why the personal attack?

I'm not trying to "score" points over a disaster. I'm ridiculing the useless UN once again and pointing out how utterly useless the UN is in dealing with anything.

Bush is correct in forming an alliance outside the UN to deal with this disaster.....maybe the money and aid will actually get to the victims instead of the pockets of the UN thieves.

The UN is a useless entity.
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Post by: soda72 on December 30, 2004, 09:23:53 AM
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Originally posted by NUKE
Personal attack. Why the personal attack?

I'm not trying to "score" points over a disaster. I'm ridiculing the useless UN once again and pointing out how utterly useless the UN is in dealing with anything.

Bush is correct in forming an alliance outside the UN to deal with this disaster.....maybe the money and aid will actually get to the victims instead of the pockets of the UN thieves.

The UN is a useless entity.


Boy looks like you got their attention Nuke  :D
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Post by: wombatt on December 30, 2004, 09:26:41 AM
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Originally posted by AKS\/\/ulfe
Ah horse****. Florida's damage was to homes and business, the damage in Asia is far more than that and growing worse by the hour.
-SW


It would have been just as bad in Fla if we did not have the early warning system that we have.
There is the real tragedy.
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Post by: Estel on December 30, 2004, 09:46:41 AM
Specially for you.

France, Italy and Russian rescue teams are working there. Also, Russian IL-76 are working on delivery humanitary help. Also, Russian goverment is working now on monetary aid to help Shri-Lanka to get out of a crisis.

So. Where are americans and UN?
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Post by: AKS\/\/ulfe on December 30, 2004, 09:48:56 AM
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Originally posted by wombatt
There is the real tradgety.


You even edited the post, and STILL didn't spell it right.

Change your name as many times as you want, you just can't run away from the core personality.
-SW
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Post by: wombatt on December 30, 2004, 10:02:11 AM
:confused:
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Post by: YTSSGTD on December 30, 2004, 10:02:55 AM
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Originally posted by Estel
Specially for you.

France, Italy and Russian rescue teams are working there. Also, Russian IL-76 are working on delivery humanitary help. Also, Russian goverment is working now on monetary aid to help Shri-Lanka to get out of a crisis.

So. Where are americans and UN?


O' we just got that aircraft carrier battle group, on its way, and about 20 C-130 too nothing big. Then the 31st MEU that just left Iraq to go help.  Nothing big at all
:rolleyes:  

S.T.F.U Ok
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Post by: AKS\/\/ulfe on December 30, 2004, 10:05:37 AM
How's Lorna doing?
-SW
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Post by: wombatt on December 30, 2004, 10:08:26 AM
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Originally posted by AKS\/\/ulfe
How's Lorna doing?
-SW



Hows your hand?:aok
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Post by: AKS\/\/ulfe on December 30, 2004, 10:14:48 AM
That's good you didn't answer that, you don't want that manatee you call a wife to find out about your internet romance.
-SW
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Post by: wombatt on December 30, 2004, 10:33:02 AM
Here's a tip when cheating on you're left hand with your right.
Make sure you put your left hand behind your back so it don't get jealous.

Oh and when you're mom catches you again just tell here you where scratching.
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Post by: Nilsen on December 30, 2004, 10:34:10 AM
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Originally posted by guttboy
Someone once said....

"If you cant say anything nice....well...dont say anything at all"


Food for thought....

Ok now thats of my chest....did you all know that when the massive flooding happened several years ago in the Mississippi river area there was a country that offered help to us....

Anyone care to guess which one it was and what they offered????

Regards....btw this is NOT a troll


come on.... tell us :)

France?
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Post by: AKS\/\/ulfe on December 30, 2004, 10:35:35 AM
Did you learn that from hand feeding that beached whale of a wife of yours twinkies and twix?
-SW
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Post by: guttboy on December 30, 2004, 10:37:47 AM
Not France....

It was Bangladesh.....one of the poorest nations in the world...they offered what they could...sandbags....

Just wanted to toss that out there...has no relevance to the current turn of events in this thread...lol....but just thought you'd like to know

Regards
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Post by: weaselsan on December 30, 2004, 03:49:36 PM
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Originally posted by Nilsen
come on.... tell us :)

France?


The last offer of help that I heard from France was $136,000. I don't know how their rapid response works for International emergencys so I won't be judgemental.
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Post by: Nilsen on December 30, 2004, 03:57:19 PM
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Originally posted by weaselsan
The last offer of help that I heard from France was $136,000. I don't know how their rapid response works for International emergencys so I won't be judgemental.


You know we are talking about mississippi and not the recent incident right?
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Post by: Karnak on December 30, 2004, 04:07:52 PM
And what did we pledge to France when they had the heat wave that killed so many? Rich countries very rarely bail other rich countries out at all.  One of the luxuries of being a rich country, like the USA or France, is that we can take care of our own.

I cannot believe the hate that spews from some of the members of this community.  It is absolutely sickening the depths you eagerly plumet to in order to defame those you dislike.

To use an event like this to attack with lies and twisted propaganda is utterly revolting.  Have you no shame?  My revulsion at what this community has become since 2001 is difficult to put into words.  It is as though it has been hijacked by the worst, most spiteful and hateful elements it had to offer.  Extremists so blind that all they can do is attack, attack, attack.  Nothing matters but your petty little idealologies.  That is all that seems real to some of you and the world we live in is treated as an irrelevant veil.

Absolutely pathetic.
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Post by: wombatt on December 30, 2004, 04:14:36 PM
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Originally posted by Karnak
 Have you no shame?  My revulsion at what this community has become since 2001 is difficult to put into words.  It is as though it has been hijacked by the worst, most spiteful and hateful elements it had to offer.  Extremists so blind that all they can do is attack, attack, attack.  Nothing matters but your petty little idealologies.  That is all that seems real to some of you and the world we live in is treated as an irrelevant veil.

Absolutely pathetic.



You just described terrorist mindset :eek:

And you i am afraid are right on the money sir.
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Post by: weaselsan on December 30, 2004, 05:32:15 PM
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Originally posted by Karnak
And what did we pledge to France when they had the heat wave that killed so many? Rich countries very rarely bail other rich countries out at all.  One of the luxuries of being a rich country, like the USA or France, is that we can take care of our own.

I cannot believe the hate that spews from some of the members of this community.  It is absolutely sickening the depths you eagerly plumet to in order to defame those you dislike.

To use an event like this to attack with lies and twisted propaganda is utterly revolting.  Have you no shame?  My revulsion at what this community has become since 2001 is difficult to put into words.  It is as though it has been hijacked by the worst, most spiteful and hateful elements it had to offer.  Extremists so blind that all they can do is attack, attack, attack.  Nothing matters but your petty little idealologies.  That is all that seems real to some of you and the world we live in is treated as an irrelevant veil.

Absolutely pathetic.


At first I was going to answer you....but then I seen you are from California.
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Post by: Octavius on December 30, 2004, 06:15:11 PM
"Real generosity is doing something nice for someone who'll never find out"  - Frank Clark
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Post by: Karnak on December 30, 2004, 06:53:03 PM
Let me put it this way, if this thread were to be taken as fact one would believe that Russia sent a very little, Germany nothing and France a mere $136,000.

Well, looking a little and this is what I've found that some Western countries have donated:

USA: 35 million, but this is just the begining of what we'll send.
Spain: 54 million donated, 14 million in loans
France: 57 million
Sweden: 75 million
UK: 95 million


A quote from your most hated man, Koffi Anan:

"Let me say that in this particular instance the response has been very good."

According to this board, the UN has singled out the USA for ridicule for not giving enough when the comment was directed at all the wealthy nations.  Think G-8.


Some of the people here with a huge anti-France, anti-Germany, anti-Russia and anti-UN chip on their shoulder couldn't let this disaster pass by without using it as a soapbox to attack and defame the objects of their scorn.
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Post by: Monk on December 31, 2004, 02:19:17 AM
Speaking of Bangledesh.

I wonder how much aid they recieved in 1991 when 130,000+ died.  Sucks when your country doesn't have any cool beachs and hotels, or thousands of tourists died.

How many (I pat myself on the back) gave then.
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Post by: Fishu on December 31, 2004, 11:06:00 AM
Just for Nuke. Everyone else, please do ignore.

(http://members.lycos.nl/vbbtestsite/tsunami_aid_bs.jpg)
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Post by: Shuckins on December 31, 2004, 11:15:51 AM
Not to take sides in this retarded thread, Fishu, but you did read the part about Bush offering to bankroll the rebuilding of the region, didn't you?

How much do you suppose THAT is going to cost?

What is significant about all this is that so many nations have pulled together, put aside their differences, rolled up their sleeves, and pitched in to aid in a massive HUMANITARIAN EFFORT.

A big to all nations involved!
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Post by: Fishu on December 31, 2004, 11:18:50 AM
If you didn't understand, I'm just picking on Nuke because of his arrogance.
If you aren't Nuke, then please do ignore.
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Post by: Shuckins on December 31, 2004, 11:21:39 AM
Oh...OK...'salright!
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Post by: NUKE on December 31, 2004, 11:27:25 AM
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Originally posted by Fishu
If you didn't understand, I'm just picking on Nuke because of his arrogance.
If you aren't Nuke, then please do ignore.


You are the ignorant one. I never once compaired the amount of aid the US is offering to any other country.

I was pointing out that the UN was being bypassed by the US. Did you even read my posts?

The point being that the UN is once again shown to be totally useless. In fact, by bypassing the UN, the aid and money will actually get to the victims.
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Post by: lada on December 31, 2004, 12:17:47 PM
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Originally posted by NUKE
You are the ignorant one. I never once compaired the amount of aid the US is offering to any other country.

I was pointing out that the UN was being bypassed by the US. Did you even read my posts?

The point being that the UN is once again shown to be totally useless. In fact, by bypassing the UN, the aid and money will actually get to the victims.



If you realy belive, that US  can bypass UN and act better, then you probably do not have clue about UN`s activities


here is link for you
http://www.reliefweb.int/w/rwb.nsf

but you are probably to cool to read sutch trash arent you ?
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Post by: Fishu on December 31, 2004, 12:22:54 PM
USA has increased the aid to 350 millions.


Nuke,

Other invidual countries have acted also.
They aren't slamming the UN.
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Post by: NUKE on December 31, 2004, 12:26:42 PM
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Originally posted by lada
If you realy belive, that US  can bypass UN and act better, then you probably do not have clue about UN`s activities


here is link for you
http://www.reliefweb.int/w/rwb.nsf

but you are probably to cool to read sutch trash arent you ?


I'm not going to follow your link because I hate it when people do not make their own points based on their own opinions. Links are fine as a reference.

If you want to get into the facts about how well the UN handles relief funds, look no further than the billions squandered through the "oil for food" program rum by the UN.

The UN is useless to the US. Any aid the US gives out should not be filtered through the crooks at the UN but rather they should be directed in a manner that WE decide, through nations WE want to work with in giving out OUR money and aid.
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Post by: lada on December 31, 2004, 12:29:04 PM
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Originally posted by NUKE

The UN is useless to the US. Any aid the US gives out should not be filtered through the crooks at the UN but rather they should be directed in a manner that WE decide, through nations WE want to work with in giving out OUR money and aid.


and american citizens shoulnt belong to international court yard and dont have to respect internation law right ?
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Post by: JB88 on December 31, 2004, 12:51:16 PM
(http://www.supermanfred.it/wonveruca.jpg)
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Post by: weaselsan on December 31, 2004, 01:56:01 PM
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Originally posted by lada
and american citizens shoulnt belong to international court yard and dont have to respect internation law right ?


First what the He** is an international Court Yard.......and what does that have to do with not handing cash to a bunch of Thieves
in the UN.....
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Post by: weaselsan on December 31, 2004, 01:59:19 PM
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Originally posted by Fishu
Just for Nuke. Everyone else, please do ignore.

(http://members.lycos.nl/vbbtestsite/tsunami_aid_bs.jpg)


Better check these figures again ...It's 350 million. when It's over it will exceed several Billion. It's wise for one to engage their brain before they put their mouth in gear. Other wise just noise comes out.
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Post by: Karnak on December 31, 2004, 06:22:50 PM
Wealsan,

You're an arrogant idiot.

You don't even start to think, you just lash out.

It was 35 million when he posted that.  And worse, for your idiotic little mind, Fishu already posted that the US's aid had been boosted to 350 million.

Idiot.
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Post by: weaselsan on December 31, 2004, 06:28:27 PM
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Originally posted by Karnak
Wealsan,

You're an arrogant idiot.

You don't even start to think, you just lash out.

It was 35 million when he posted that.  And worse, for your idiotic little mind, Fishu already posted that the US's aid had been boosted to 350 million.

Idiot.


I was going to respond...then I noticed your from California.