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Title: Thank you, USA
Post by: patrone on December 30, 2004, 05:57:57 PM: For sending aircraft carrier Abraham Lincoln to Sumatra.

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Title: Thank you, USA
Post by: Nilsen on December 30, 2004, 06:01:35 PM: Yup. sending those navy ships with the helos, medical and watermaking facilities are gonna help alot. :)
Title: Thank you, USA
Post by: FUNKED1 on December 30, 2004, 06:08:38 PM: You are welcome. We will commence bombing in 12 hours. :aok
Title: Re: Thank you, USA
Post by: weaselsan on December 30, 2004, 06:20:04 PM: Quote
Originally posted by patrone
For sending aircraft carrier Abraham Lincoln to Sumatra.

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Oh Oh.....Now we'll get trashed for not sending the Winston Churchill.
Title: Re: Re: Thank you, USA
Post by: JB73 on December 30, 2004, 06:22:33 PM: Quote
Originally posted by weaselsan
Oh Oh.....Now we'll get trashed for not sending the Winston Churchill.
no... the UN said they are mad we did't send our whole pacific fleet.... they are trying to take over hawaii now and make the fleet go there.
Title: Thank you, USA
Post by: patrone on December 30, 2004, 06:25:36 PM: guess you guys cant even take an honest "thank you" the right way.

Pathetic how you try to twist everything to politics.

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Title: Thank you, USA
Post by: VWE on December 30, 2004, 06:29:23 PM: Grow up patrone... :rolleyes:
Title: Thank you, USA
Post by: Gunslinger on December 30, 2004, 06:29:44 PM: Quote
Originally posted by patrone
guess you guys cant even take an honest "thank you" the right way.

Pathetic how you try to twist everything to politics.

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Your Welcome Patrone,

You gotta realize that we yanks get criticised for just about anything we do. If we sent navy ships, some would say we are sending too much military. Then they'd say we arent sending enough military because they realize that it is full of medical specialists, and various other needed logistics.

but seriously,

Your welcome
Title: Thank you, USA
Post by: JB73 on December 30, 2004, 06:30:20 PM: ditto
Title: Thank you, USA
Post by: patrone on December 30, 2004, 06:48:55 PM: Thank you again.

Just a little suprised, in a good way, over this splendid manuever.

And while we are at it: Please make sure you dig deep in your pockets, not only for the nickels and dimes.

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Title: Thank you, USA
Post by: weaselsan on December 30, 2004, 06:52:03 PM: Quote
Originally posted by patrone
guess you guys cant even take an honest "thank you" the right way.

Pathetic how you try to twist everything to politics.

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You see patrone we have given over 40% of all the relief aid given to the world last year. This is just the aid that the government has given. I personally gave $20,000 to the Red Cross. Thats 10% of the French contribution so far, but lets not go there. After one day ....THAT'S ONE DAY.... some Moron at the UN begins complaining that we need to give more...we must raise taxes and give more. I am beginning to get a little annoyed at these clowns at the UN and trust me on this "I'M NOT ALONE".
Title: Thank you, USA
Post by: Ripsnort on December 30, 2004, 06:52:18 PM: Quote
Originally posted by patrone

And while we are at it: Please make sure you dig deep in your pockets, not only for the nickels and dimes.

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Careful now, these boys take it personal when you suggest to dig deep into the pocket books.

http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=138859&referrerid=3203

You might want to look at how some of those non-US people reacted in that thread. Disgusting IMO.

FWIW, American's alone have so far donated 70 million and the Gov't 35 million.
Title: Thank you, USA
Post by: patrone on December 30, 2004, 07:04:03 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Ripsnort
Careful now, these boys take it personal when you suggest to dig deep into the pocket books.

And a Merry Xmas to you to Ripsnort :)

In the end, it is not what your goverment gives or what you pay in tax: In the end it is what you give, by heart.

(I will not start a debate on who is giving what and what kind of amounts, it is not relevant in this case, sorry.)

FWIW, Swedes alone have so far donated 40 million and the Gov't 70 million. (9 million citizens live in sweden)

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Title: Thank you, USA
Post by: JB73 on December 30, 2004, 07:04:51 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Ripsnort
Careful now, these boys take it personal when you suggest to dig deep into the pocket books.

FWIW, American's alone have so far donated 70 million and the Gov't 35 million.
as stated in your thread, i dont know how i am going to pay utilities this month, let alone give money away to the nobleist of causes
Title: Thank you, USA
Post by: BlueJ1 on December 30, 2004, 07:05:53 PM: I got some pocket lint.

And a crumpled peice of paper that once had writing on it that has gone through the wash.
Title: Thank you, USA
Post by: Ripsnort on December 30, 2004, 07:09:04 PM: For perception, here is the donations to America after 9/11. Anyone want to take a guess how much foreign aid poured into the US?

http://fdncenter.org/research/trends_analysis/pdf/sept11.pdf
Title: Thank you, USA
Post by: Ripsnort on December 30, 2004, 07:10:47 PM: Quote
Originally posted by JB73
as stated in your thread, i dont know how i am going to pay utilities this month, let alone give money away to the nobleist of causes

I wasn't speaking specifically to you. We have 5.5% unemployed in the U.S., I was speaking to that 94.5% that could give up a couple packs of smokes, or whatever, to contribute.
Title: Thank you, USA
Post by: Ripsnort on December 30, 2004, 07:15:29 PM: Quote
Originally posted by patrone
And a Merry Xmas to you to Ripsnort :)

In the end, it is not what your goverment gives or what you pay in tax: In the end it is what you give, by heart.

(I will not start a debate on who is giving what and what kind of amounts, it is not relevant in this case, sorry.)

FWIW, Swedes alone have so far donated 40 million and the Gov't 70 million. (9 million citizens live in sweden)

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Merry Christmas to you too!

Excellent on the Swedish donations!

We've not yet calculated the Corporate donations, many with matching $$ to those donated by citizens. That number will be out later in January (primarily to the rebuilding of the devastated areas)

I see a good rivalry forming on how much we can donate, thats a good thing for getting the lives of these survivors back on track!
Title: Thank you, USA
Post by: patrone on December 30, 2004, 07:15:50 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Ripsnort
For perception, here is the donations to America after 9/11. Anyone want to take a guess how much foreign aid poured into the US?

http://fdncenter.org/research/trends_analysis/pdf/sept11.pdf

Dont compare people that have litterary nothing to start with, with the bigest economies in the world.
So, you advice people not to give anything to help these people out, because they gave you nothing at 9/11?
Give me a break will ya, Rip.

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Title: Thank you, USA
Post by: patrone on December 30, 2004, 07:18:16 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Ripsnort

I see a good rivalry forming on how much we can donate, thats a good thing for getting the lives of these survivors back on track!

Excellent Idea Rip!!!
Lets make it "worldchampionships in Donating aidmoney to Southasia"!

BOOOOORK!
Title: Thank you, USA
Post by: Ripsnort on December 30, 2004, 07:19:11 PM: Quote
Originally posted by patrone
So, you advice people not to give anything to help these people out, because they gave you nothing at 9/11?
Give me a break will ya, Rip.

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Uhh, negative. Just an interesting tidbit I found when reading about the UN complaining about the US not giving enough when France had only given $136,000 (on that day of the report)
Title: Thank you, USA
Post by: patrone on December 30, 2004, 07:23:21 PM: Ripsnort, I give 200$, if you give 100$, to redcross today.

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Title: Thank you, USA
Post by: Ripsnort on December 30, 2004, 07:25:32 PM: Quote
Originally posted by patrone
Ripsnort, I give 200$, if you give 100$, to redcross today.

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I've already given $500. We're starting a drive for more $$ in our organization on Monday within the company I work for too.

FWIW, charity is tax deductible here in the U.S.
Title: Thank you, USA
Post by: patrone on December 30, 2004, 07:29:41 PM: Ripsnort
Guess you won then, anyway, my 200$ will be donated today.

I am just a poor, sick, Swedish chef, can´t top you on 500$.

BOOOORK
Title: Thank you, USA
Post by: Ripsnort on December 30, 2004, 07:32:28 PM: Quote
Originally posted by patrone
Ripsnort
Guess you won then, anyway, my 200$ will be donated today.

I am just a poor, sick, Swedish chef, can´t top you on 500$.

BOOOORK

WTG on your donation!

Hey, even if everyone donated $1 in America, that would be over $260 million! I'm making up for some of the guys that say their taxes cover it. ;)

But now that I've said I've donated, that means I'm just trying to draw attention to myself and I'm a braggart. Just ask Nash and Stringer!
Title: Thank you, USA
Post by: JB73 on December 30, 2004, 07:33:12 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Ripsnort
I wasn't speaking specifically to you. We have 5.5% unemployed in the U.S., I was speaking to that 94.5% that could give up a couple packs of smokes, or whatever, to contribute.
i know you weren't... i am employed, but at a terribly wage.... and i know many in my situation.

it just perturbs me that i am not a "goiod person" if i can't give money to strangers. he11 i gave $1 to salvation army whuile Christmas shopping.

it was the only cash i had, all gifts bought on a tweaked credit card at 24%.

what can i say
Title: Thank you, USA
Post by: Elfie on December 30, 2004, 07:34:33 PM: Quote
Originally posted by JB73
as stated in your thread, i dont know how i am going to pay utilities this month, let alone give money away to the nobleist of causes

My wife and I can usually find a way to give *something* even though we dont have alot ourselves. This time I am afraid we might not be able to help. The youngest one has outgrown all of her pajamas (AGAIN!), the truck needs parts, bleh.....but we'll see, we might find a way yet :)
Title: Thank you, USA
Post by: Steve on December 30, 2004, 07:35:13 PM: Patrone, do not despair if we give only nickels and dimes.
We'll give them by the shipload.

The USA takes her lumps and remembers the insults. When it comes to disaster relief, we give and give. Still, to our critics it is never enough.

We will rush to the aid of the area, do more than our share, and be villified for it in about ever country who voices an opinion. It stings, but we'll do it again.
Title: Thank you, USA
Post by: Elfie on December 30, 2004, 07:36:47 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Steve
Patrone, do not despair if we give only nickels and dimes.
We'll give them by the shipload.

The USA takes her lumps and remembers the insults. When it comes to disaster relief, we give and give. Still, to our critics it is never enough.

We will rush to the aid of the area, do more than our share, and be villified for it in about ever country who voices an opinion. It stings, but we'll do it again.

So true.
Title: Thank you, USA
Post by: patrone on December 30, 2004, 07:45:34 PM: Not wanting really to bash you on this one Steve. I have answers to your statments, but I choose not to deliver them. This is not a debate about who gives what.

I give from what I have, if I didnt have anything, I could not give.

BOOOOORK
Title: Thank you, USA
Post by: Stringer on December 30, 2004, 08:38:18 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Ripsnort

But now that I've said I've donated, that means I'm just trying to draw attention to myself and I'm a braggart. Just ask Nash and Stringer!

Creamo Wrote:
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If I do write a check, do I have to remind everyone I did in 3 different threads and start a new one? Seems like alot of work.

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"The charity that hastens to proclaim its good deeds, ceases to be charity, and is only pride and ostentation."

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I was brought up to believe that the tastefull way to give to charity was to do so anonymously

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(Matthew 6:1-4)

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"Beware of practicing your righteousness before men to be noticed by them; otherwise you have no reward with your Father who is in heaven.

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So when you give to the poor, do not sound a trumpet before you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, so that they may be honored by men. Truly I say to you, they have their reward in full.

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Even the Gospel talks about giving in private, stating that giving in secret will be rewarded by God in the open. However, giving so that others may see your generosity for the purpose of being praised by one's peers; that praise will be the only reward.

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Widewing nicely put

Rip,
Remember to tell Crabo to ask these folks as well.

BTW, $500 and that's it? You just bought a camera for more than that. How do I know? You bragged about it on this BBS in the midst of sharing with us the details of your $110K toy shopping spree.

Honestly Rip, I think it's great that you are giving, but man, you sure do know how to make people think you're an bellybutton while your giving it.

Hell, I wouldn't have even responded in this thread if you hadn't mentioned me by name.
Title: Thank you, USA
Post by: patrone on December 30, 2004, 08:47:48 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Stringer

Rip,
Remember to tell Crabo to ask these folks as well.

Sorry Stringer, I cant ask all theese guys, I can not give more then the 200$ I dared Ripsnort with :(

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Title: Thank you, USA
Post by: Vudak on December 30, 2004, 08:53:28 PM: Gentlemen, Gentlemen, please!

Can we not argue about whether or not it is cool to give to charities anonymously or out in the open? Does it really matter?

You guys are starting to make me feel as though I have to snatch the Ronald McDonald donation cup and run with it to a dark corner of the store if I want to donate anything larger than a buck!
Title: Thank you, USA
Post by: Ripsnort on December 30, 2004, 09:09:16 PM: Sorry Stringer, if I can convince one person to give, I feel its worth it.

Have you loosened up that check book yet?
Title: Thank you, USA
Post by: Ripsnort on December 30, 2004, 09:11:23 PM: PS:
Meanwhile, keep up the good selective cutting and pasting.
Title: Thank you, USA
Post by: Ripsnort on December 30, 2004, 09:12:45 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Vudak
Gentlemen, Gentlemen, please!

Can we not argue about whether or not it is cool to give to charities anonymously or out in the open? Does it really matter?

You guys are starting to make me feel as though I have to snatch the Ronald McDonald donation cup and run with it to a dark corner of the store if I want to donate anything larger than a buck!

Yeah, Tampon Stringer has some issues. :lol
Title: Thank you, USA
Post by: SOB on December 30, 2004, 09:20:37 PM: You are indeed unjustly persecuted, Rip. I'm gonna pray for ya! Keep yer chin up, big guy.
Title: Thank you, USA
Post by: Ripsnort on December 30, 2004, 09:31:09 PM: Quote
Originally posted by SOB
You are indeed unjustly persecuted, Rip. I'm gonna pray for ya! Keep yer chin up, big guy.

Just can't resist that Check 6 pig pile can you?

You really need to give up singing (http://www.funlol.com/funpages/fat-dude-singing.html) to the Choir though.
Title: Thank you, USA
Post by: SOB on December 30, 2004, 09:43:26 PM: Please stop, I'm tearing up here. That cross is just too big for you to bear, and it tears me up inside to have to see you carry it.
Title: Thank you, USA
Post by: Nash on December 30, 2004, 09:44:49 PM: Jesusnort.
Title: Re: Thank you, USA
Post by: 1K0N on December 30, 2004, 10:04:03 PM: Quote
Originally posted by patrone
For sending aircraft carrier Abraham Lincoln to Sumatra.

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We lately have sent so much to the Red Cross I think we need to open up an auto draft from my bank account.... And have no problem doing it, after living thru florida Hurricane season which by the way was a fart in the wind compared to the tsunami tragedy, we all realize how bad it is over in asia right now....
I look at this charity/giving issue this way.... Peer pressure in this situation can never hurt! All countries will need to help out as much as possible...

How about a good swedish recipe?
non fish related!

IKON
Title: Thank you, USA
Post by: JB88 on December 30, 2004, 10:09:23 PM: we got devastated during IVAN. house devistated. i was grateful to those who helped and utterly shccked by those who did not.

it puts things into perspective.

but i couldnt even fathom for a moment, not even for a second what it must be like over there.

my heart goes out to all and i think that the US should be leading the pack on a helping hand.

i have heard some say, screw them...they harbor terrorists. ya, that wont breed more will it? hello?

an interesting thing. during the cold war we shipped grain to the USSR. kind of hard for them to attack us when we are feeding them. it is, in my opinion one of the things that helped "win" it.
Title: Thank you, USA
Post by: DREDIOCK on December 30, 2004, 10:16:59 PM: Quote
Originally posted by patrone
Thank you again.

Just a little surprised, in a good way, over this splendid maneuver.

And while we are at it: Please make sure you dig deep in your pockets, not only for the nickels and dimes.

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Your very welcome.
Its only the beginning
You will find the corporations as well as the private sector are really gonna kick in too.
I saw a report today of companies starting to kick in money and aid in the millions.
On of our pharmaceuticals I saw is sending 35 million in medical supplies.
But it wont just come from the rich. Alot will come from the people. Many who are poor themselves and barely can put a meal on their own table will send what they can.
It the way we are.

America, and Americans as a whole do alot more for countries in times of crisis then we get credit for.
Hell we even offer to help our enemies during natural disasters.
Yet it seems no matter what we do we as another put it in the end always get criticized.
We dont do it for the credit, or the recognition but because its right.
So please excuse us if we seem to get a bit over sensitive about it.

So on behalf of my fellow countrymen
thank you for the thank you.

It isnt expected but it is nice to hear for a change

BTW good luck
Title: Thank you, USA
Post by: mosgood on December 30, 2004, 10:58:26 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Ripsnort
Careful now, these boys take it personal when you suggest to dig deep into the pocket books.

Actually, coming from you, it get a little rediculous.... sonny.
Title: Thank you, USA
Post by: Yeager on December 30, 2004, 11:45:35 PM: who is this ******** patrone anyway?
Title: Thank you, USA
Post by: NUKE on December 30, 2004, 11:48:28 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Yeager
who is this ******** patrone anyway?

dunno, but I'm not biting.
Title: Thank you, USA
Post by: patrone on December 31, 2004, 12:14:35 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Yeager
who is this ******** patrone anyway?

Just giving my thanks to the USA for sending a aircraft carrier to help the people in sumatra.
And you know very well who I am, yeager.

But this is not time for argue or debate.

Bork
Title: Thank you, USA
Post by: patrone on December 31, 2004, 12:18:00 AM: Quote
Originally posted by NUKE
dunno, but I'm not biting.

No please dont bite, Nuke, how awfule it would be if you where caught with your pants down, showing something else then what we all espect from you. Just keep on.

Crabofix
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Title: Thank you, USA
Post by: Yeager on December 31, 2004, 12:18:51 AM: oh hell patrone is just crabofox.

How ya doin crab?

:)
Title: Thank you, USA
Post by: NUKE on December 31, 2004, 12:19:03 AM: Quote
Originally posted by patrone
No please dont bite, Nuke, how awfule it would be if you where caught with your pants down, showing something else then what we all espect from you. Just keep on.

Crabofix
BOOOOOOOORK

huh?
Title: Thank you, USA
Post by: patrone on December 31, 2004, 08:17:32 AM: Doing so and so, Yeager.

We have 4000 Swedes missing in Thailand and they are assumed to be dead.
But the catastrofe is really at Sumatra, where it was a civilwar going on at the same time as the Earthquake hit the area.
People have nothing, no food, no water, nothing.
They didnt have anything to start with and now thay dont have not even that.

Give, please, even if you gave before and even if your goverment gave etc, etc.
I ask you, not because you are Amerikkans, Russians, Danish. I ask you because you are Humans.

I am very, very greatfule for USA sending the Carrier.

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Title: Thank you, USA
Post by: lazs2 on December 31, 2004, 08:33:57 AM: I am sure that the charities that I give to are giving their time and money to the best possible causes. I am also sure that any money that I were to give to the red cross would be mostly used to line the pockets of a bunch of overpaid adminestrators.

lazs
Title: Thank you, USA
Post by: AWMac on December 31, 2004, 08:38:58 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Steve
Patrone, do not despair if we give only nickels and dimes.
We'll give them by the shipload.

The USA takes her lumps and remembers the insults. When it comes to disaster relief, we give and give. Still, to our critics it is never enough.

We will rush to the aid of the area, do more than our share, and be villified for it in about ever country who voices an opinion. It stings, but we'll do it again.

Yep...so true.

Did we all see what France sent? Dispicable by any margin.
Title: Thank you, USA
Post by: patrone on December 31, 2004, 09:30:12 AM: Awmac

I can bash you and hit you with 1000 truthes about many things regarding who gave what and why.

There are many faults in the world, but I will not touch any single one or point my finger to say anything but anything else then what is important.

Focus , man, on what is important, dont be such a weinersausage.

(All newyears celebration is cancelled here in Sweden.)

FWIW: france gov´t gave 40 million Euros this week.

Crabofix
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Title: Thank you, USA
Post by: lada on December 31, 2004, 12:42:42 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Ripsnort
For perception, here is the donations to America after 9/11. Anyone want to take a guess how much foreign aid poured into the US?

http://fdncenter.org/research/trends_analysis/pdf/sept11.pdf

but it werent natural disaster, were it ?

I dont think its something comparable with SE Asia.
Title: Thank you, USA
Post by: JB88 on December 31, 2004, 12:56:17 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Ripsnort
For perception, here is the donations to America after 9/11. Anyone want to take a guess how much foreign aid poured into the US?

http://fdncenter.org/research/trends_analysis/pdf/sept11.pdf

um. this pdf doc doesnt even touch on the subject of foreign aid. it is called...giving in the aftermath of 9/11...corporations and foundations respond.
Title: Thank you, USA
Post by: BlueJ1 on December 31, 2004, 02:29:22 PM: U.S. has upped AID to area to more than 300 million dollars.
Title: Thank you, USA
Post by: Monk on December 31, 2004, 02:37:41 PM: Quote
Originally posted by lada
but it werent natural disaster, were it ?

I dont think its something comparable with SE Asia.

Dang, your right, it was in the second league of disasters.....geez how could we be so stupid.

Got to remember - triple A, double A, single A and the BIG time.

ya, that's it.
Title: Thank you, USA
Post by: BUG_EAF322 on December 31, 2004, 04:54:31 PM: Any help is welcome nomattter where it comes from.

Its hypocryt from some people to bash the USA when it takes a leading role.
than bash it not takeing a leading role

But mr Egeland judged right indeed the catastrophe is bigger than thought of.

its hardly to imagine the seize of it

But

Mr Bush understood.

Thanks for any help
Title: Thank you, USA
Post by: lada on December 31, 2004, 06:51:31 PM: Quote
Originally posted by BUG_EAF322

Its hypocryt from some people to bash the USA when it takes a leading role.
than bash it not takeing a leading role

i think nobody bash US.

Somebody told them that they should feel bashed, so some people here do, thats all.
Title: Thank you, USA
Post by: Yeager on December 31, 2004, 10:15:24 PM: yes, its all pretty unbelievable for me. I really cannot comprehend this, Im just glad I havent died on this world yet. I like being alive. One thing is for sure, getting killed has got to really suck badly.

Im sad but I also realise I could be killed in a earthquake, house fire or car accident or get a disease or something.....24-7-365 is the threat. I am truly sad for all those poeple.