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Title: can we try it one more time? (special request)
Post by: Ike 2K# on December 31, 2004, 02:13:09 PM

Ju-87G-2! :)

The Ju 87G was the final version of the Stuka. Dive-brakes were removed and an armament of two 37mm Rheinmetall-Borsig BK3,7 (Flak 18) anti-tank cannons were installed under the wings. These weapons fired special armour-piercing ammunition, with tungsten cores, at a muzzle velocity of 850m/sec. The guns were installed in gun pods fitted outboard of the landing gear legs. The ammunition was in six-round clips. The normal 7.9 mm or 20 mm wing guns were deleted. There were two versions, the Ju 87G-1 based on the short wing span D-3 and the Ju 87G-2 based on the long wing span D-5 model. Production of the Ju 87 was halted definitively on October 1944. A good proof of the power of the guns and the amazing shooting skills of Hans-Ulrich Rudel was one of his air victories. Rudel shot down a heavily armoured Il-2 Sturmovik while flying with "Kanonenvogel" at maximum range with only two rounds of his 37 mm guns.

First trials on the battlefield with gunplanes were made in March 1943. The Ju 87G proved to be very effective in its task. Although the 37 mm gun was ineffective on ground it still was effective gun in the air. Attacks were normally made from rear and above against the thin deck armours of the Russian tanks which were easily penetrated.

Because attacks were always made in very low flying altitude where anti-aircraft defence was very hard it became necessary to improve armouring. Because of increased armour and weight of the guns, 420 kg / gun, flying characteristics of Ju 87G were tricky. The success of the Ju 87G pilots simply based to their great experience. And the most famous of them was Hans-Ulrich Rudel.

Hans-Ulrich Rudel is the most successful pilot through the airwar history. He flew over 2500 missions and destroyed at least 519 tanks, sank one battleship, one cruiser, one destroyer and 70 landing crafts. Different type of land vehicles he destroyed over 800 and over 150 artillery sites, four armoured trains, many bridges etc. Rudel achieved also nine kills. He was shot down 32 times, he wounded five times and rescued six crews from enemy territory. Also the enemy appreciated his achievements, Stalin had promised 100 000 rubles reward of his head! Hans-Ulrich Rudel flew till the end of the war although he had his leg amputated.

PS It is not the end of AH TANK warfare, the fun factor is just the beginningg! :)

(http://www.simhq.com/simhq3/sims/features/luftwaffecas/stuka37mm(gb).jpg)

(http://www.sspanzer.net/flyweapon/ju87/ju87at1.jpg)

Title: can we try it one more time? (special request)
Post by: Fruda on December 31, 2004, 04:20:45 PM

We had that Stuka on Fighter Ace 3.6. Quite the tank killer... I liked it more than the Il-2.

Title: can we try it one more time? (special request)
Post by: Baine on December 31, 2004, 05:04:50 PM

I'm not familiar with the plane, is it limited to 6 shots per gun per flight?

Title: can we try it one more time? (special request)
Post by: Leayme on December 31, 2004, 06:45:29 PM

If I recall correctly from the previous thread, final production version was 12 rounds per gun, 24 in total, would have to dig up the previous thread to say for sure.

It would be a neat plane for the ground attack inclined individuals out there.

Title: can we try it one more time? (special request)
Post by: Fruda on December 31, 2004, 10:26:00 PM

It would certainly make it easier to clean out the GV's that like to hide in and around towns.

Title: can we try it one more time? (special request)
Post by: Kweassa on December 31, 2004, 11:36:47 PM

It would also mean the end of the GV warfare in AH2, and a revert to the old days of "Ostards galore", if it becomes a free aircraft.

Title: stuka
Post by: rogerdee on January 01, 2005, 05:23:21 AM

well  it would have to be a perked  plane give somethnig useful for the bomber perks to be used for.
  i still think that the hurrican 11d guns are not powerful enough in this game.i have a couple of vidoes that show hurrican 11d's  and  they dont ned  10 shiots to kill a panzer.

  rogerdee

Title: can we try it one more time? (special request)
Post by: Ike 2K# on January 01, 2005, 01:36:53 PM

is it that hard tro adopt tactics used in the E front in MA? (ie the red army "air warfare doctrine")

Title: can we try it one more time? (special request)
Post by: Tails on January 04, 2005, 06:32:34 PM

Here we go again...

The guys on the ground are just affraid of something else that can consistantly rip a tank open from the air (Hurri-D can do it, just have to know where to aim and when to pull the trigger)

I say add it, with either six or twelve rounds per gun. Either way I'd be happy!

Title: can we try it one more time? (special request)
Post by: MOSQ on January 04, 2005, 06:38:34 PM

The previous thread, 3 pages long:

http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=132600&highlight=stuka (http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=132600&highlight=stuka)