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Title: a real famous futureist..
Post by: lazs2 on January 01, 2005, 12:20:53 PM
who said this?  

"Know Your Lawmakers, Guns, April 1960, p. 4 (1960):  "By calling attention to 'a well regulated militia,' the 'security' of the nation, and the right of each citizen 'to keep and bear arms,' our founding fathers recognized the essentially civilian nature of our economy.  Although it is extremely unlikely that the fears of governmental tyranny which gave rise to the Second Amendment will ever be a major danger to our nation, the Amendment still remains an important declaration of our basic civilian-military relationships, in which every citizen must be ready to participate in the defense of his country.  For that reason I believe the Second Amendment will always be important."


lazs
Title: a real famous futureist..
Post by: Nash on January 01, 2005, 12:24:01 PM
Oprah Winfrey?
Title: a real famous futureist..
Post by: lazs2 on January 01, 2005, 12:25:30 PM
nope.   http://www1.law.ucla.edu/~volokh/2amteach/sources.htm#TOC3

amoung all the other stuff it is in there.   It was john kennedy who said that.

lazs
Title: a real famous futureist..
Post by: JoOwEn on January 01, 2005, 01:06:39 PM
People in free countries should always have weapons. What you want is for the good people to have weapons before the bad people get them cause if the good people dont have them and the bad people get them then sh*t hits the fan.
Title: Re: a real famous futureist..
Post by: Schaden on January 01, 2005, 01:13:44 PM
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Originally posted by lazs2
who said this?  

"Know Your Lawmakers, Guns, April 1960, p. 4 (1960):  "By calling attention to 'a well regulated militia,' the 'security' of the nation, and the right of each citizen 'to keep and bear arms,' our founding fathers recognized the essentially civilian nature of our economy.  Although it is extremely unlikely that the fears of governmental tyranny which gave rise to the Second Amendment will ever be a major danger to our nation, the Amendment still remains an important declaration of our basic civilian-military relationships, in which every citizen must be ready to participate in the defense of his country.  For that reason I believe the Second Amendment will always be important."


lazs


Someone with a serious gun fetish?
Title: a real famous futureist..
Post by: lazs2 on January 01, 2005, 01:15:37 PM
yep shaden...  John F Kennedy

lazs
Title: a real famous futureist..
Post by: JoOwEn on January 01, 2005, 01:31:04 PM
Oh yeah, I live in california so I have no real threat or need to own a gun. But I do think that some people should have them so it depends.

:lol
Title: a real famous futureist..
Post by: Torque on January 01, 2005, 02:44:44 PM
Did JFK give that speech before he brought tyranny to the south, in the form of the national guard, civil rights and desegregation?

Can't recall any armed rebellions there after, seemed more like  passive submission on their part.
Title: Re: a real famous futureist..
Post by: midnight Target on January 01, 2005, 02:47:50 PM
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Originally posted by lazs2
 

"By calling attention to 'a well regulated militia,' the 'security' of the nation, and the right of each citizen 'to keep and bear arms,' our founding fathers recognized the essentially civilian nature of our economy.  Although it is extremely unlikely that the fears of governmental tyranny which gave rise to the Second Amendment will ever be a major danger to our nation, the Amendment still remains an important declaration of our basic civilian-military relationships, in which every citizen must be ready to participate in the defense of his country.  For that reason I believe the Second Amendment will always be important."

lazs [/B]


LOL..

My wife says you made the other side's point for them.
Title: a real famous futureist..
Post by: lazs2 on January 01, 2005, 04:22:21 PM
mt... you should allways listen to your wife and not think for yourself.

By calling attention to 'a well regulated militia,' the 'security' of the nation, and the right of each citizen 'to keep and bear arms,' our founding fathers recognized the essentially civilian nature of our economy. Although it is extremely unlikely that the fears of governmental tyranny which gave rise to the Second Amendment will ever be a major danger to our nation, the Amendment still remains an important declaration of our basic civilian-military relationships, in which every citizen must be ready to participate in the defense of his country. For that reason I believe the Second Amendment will always be important."

I believe that "and the right of EACH CITIZEN KEEP AND BEAR ARMS"  and.... "in which EVERY CITIZEN must be READY to participate in the defense of his country" are more to the point.

but then... maybe you wife only reads what she wants to read

lazs
Title: a real famous futureist..
Post by: Sandman on January 01, 2005, 05:04:41 PM
Irony.
Title: Re: Re: a real famous futureist..
Post by: Leslie on January 02, 2005, 04:49:04 AM
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Originally posted by midnight Target
LOL..

My wife says you made the other side's point for them.





You poor man.  How do you stand it?  Well at least you have friends here MT, and I mean it.

Listen to Lazs and you'll be a single bachelor  in no time flat!!!  :D




Les
Title: a real famous futureist..
Post by: rpm on January 02, 2005, 05:05:02 AM
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Originally posted by lazs2
mt... you should allways listen to your wife and not think for yourself.

By calling attention to 'a well regulated militia,' the 'security' of the nation, and the right of each citizen 'to keep and bear arms,' our founding fathers recognized the essentially civilian nature of our economy. Although it is extremely unlikely that the fears of governmental tyranny which gave rise to the Second Amendment will ever be a major danger to our nation, the Amendment still remains an important declaration of our basic civilian-military relationships, in which every citizen must be ready to participate in the defense of his country. For that reason I believe the Second Amendment will always be important."

I believe that "and the right of EACH CITIZEN KEEP AND BEAR ARMS"  and.... "in which EVERY CITIZEN must be READY to participate in the defense of his country" are more to the point.

but then... maybe you wife only reads what she wants to read

lazs
Now that's funny. It's fine for YOU to take words out of context and put a spin on it, but when someone else does it they "only read what they want to read". Hello Pot, meet Kettle.
Title: Re: Re: Re: a real famous futureist..
Post by: Torque on January 02, 2005, 06:54:17 AM
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Originally posted by Leslie
You poor man.  How do you stand it?  Well at least you have friends here MT, and I mean it.

Listen to Lazs and you'll be a single bachelor  in no time flat!!!  :D


Les


laz has cats
Title: a real famous futureist..
Post by: Seeker on January 02, 2005, 09:38:31 AM
An assasinated President's pro guns stance inspires me to the same degree as a dead rockstar's stance on drug leagalisation.
Title: a real famous futureist..
Post by: lazs2 on January 02, 2005, 10:27:50 AM
well... I have never told anyone that they should listen to me on relationship matters but...   you guys really ought to grow a pair.   do your wives let you go into the voting booth by yourself?  The way I handle relationships may not work well for a lot of you...  basicly..  I feel that the woman should live at least an hour away from me and be kinky and clean and let me do what I want.

torque.. I believe that most of the south was about done with segregation at the time kennedy sent in the guard.

I don't think anyone can read Kennedys quote and not realize that kennedy felt that the 2nd was an individual right.  He also felt that it was here to stay and that it was important to our country.  Any phrase in the quote that talks about rights is an INDIVIDUAL right...  the militia is secondary to the sentance.   it is simply one more reason for the INDIVIDUAL to have these rights but...

why am I wasting time talking to MT.... Put your wife on so that I can converse with the decision maker in the family.

lazs
Title: a real famous futureist..
Post by: storch on January 02, 2005, 10:10:13 PM
That's sig material right there.