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General Forums => Custom Skins => Topic started by: Ack-Ack on January 03, 2005, 02:39:40 PM
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Does anyone have a good skin tutorial or know of one? I want to start practicing on making P-38 skins.
ack-ack
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Do a seach for "skinners heaven", they have a few good tutorials.
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Thinking you must have gotten your copy of the 479th history with those color aircraft profiles in the back? :)
Dan/Slack
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http://www.1java.org/sh/ - VERY helpful
http://ahskinning.netfirms.com
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United... You know just as well as I do that the skinning tutorial they have at Skinner's Heaven is of little use to AH2 skinners, and your tutorial glazes over a lot of detailed work (layers, anyone?).
I'm in the process of making my own skinning tutorial. It will show you how to make panel lines/rivets, use layers, make scratches, add weathering, and so on. It could take a few days, but expect it soon on my site.
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Originally posted by Fruda
United... You know just as well as I do that the skinning tutorial they have at Skinner's Heaven is of little use to AH2 skinners, and your tutorial glazes over a lot of detailed work (layers, anyone?).
I'm in the process of making my own skinning tutorial. It will show you how to make panel lines/rivets, use layers, make scratches, add weathering, and so on. It could take a few days, but expect it soon on my site.
Looking forward to this ... :aok
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Hehe Fruda, good luck with that. :cool:
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The tutorials at Skinners Heaven aren't useless.
In fact the description of how to use 'Eye Candy" for weathering is almost what I use to do mine.
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Originally posted by Fruda
United... You know just as well as I do that the skinning tutorial they have at Skinner's Heaven is of little use to AH2 skinners, and your tutorial glazes over a lot of detailed work (layers, anyone?).
I'm in the process of making my own skinning tutorial. It will show you how to make panel lines/rivets, use layers, make scratches, add weathering, and so on. It could take a few days, but expect it soon on my site.
Looking forward to yours. :)
I made mine with the intention of having the users already know how to use PSP, not first time users. I may go back sometime and change it for first-timers.
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Thanks guys for the links and Fruda, I'll be looking forward to your tutorial.
And +Tiff, yeah, I got my 479th book :c)
ack-ack
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
Thanks guys for the links and Fruda, I'll be looking forward to your tutorial.
And +Tiff, yeah, I got my 479th book :c)
ack-ack
I'm working on replicating the nose art in Illustrator for that 38 "Lucky Lady" on the off chance that one might get done when the new 38s arrive.
Dan/Slack
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Note that I said the Skinner's Heaven tutorials are *almost* useless. The only parts I found useful were the weathering/scratches, and also the tutorial for shiny metal. But, that's only about 1/8th of the whole tutorial, so yes, mostly useless.
And as I said, be on the lookout for my tutorial. It goes from the ground-up: from making new layers to adding finishing touches. I'll be releasing it with my P-51D Natural Metal template.
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I think for the beginners out there, a short introduction to layers is all that is needed. I had no clue what layers were maybe 6 months ago, and now they are my best friend.
Fruda, which application(s) are you using? Not trying to come off like a salamander or anything, but not too long ago you were looking for advice to get *started* skinning. How do you expect to accomplish a tutorial that covers everything? I say this because shoudl I become motivated to create even a beginner tutorial on, say, layers, I would think that my l337 sk1llz barely qualify me as a fledgling noob... and I wouldn't want to give bad information to the new guys.
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I'd like to work on a B24 skin and just started on it, but I'm using the "by guess and by gosh" method of learning it. Is there an old thread from way back that tells the basics, like what do do right after you download the template into a skins folder, and then how to save it in a usable format so you can fly it in the offline mode to see your results? Everything in between would be helpful, too, since I know absolutely nothing about skinning other than what I've gleaned from these forums. I do have Paint Shop Pro, an old version, but would spring for the newest version if it's worth it.
F4jCH
Originally posted by Octavius
I think for the beginners out there, a short introduction to layers is all that is needed. I had no clue what layers were maybe 6 months ago, and now they are my best friend.
Fruda, which application(s) are you using? Not trying to come off like a salamander or anything, but not too long ago you were looking for advice to get *started* skinning. How do you expect to accomplish a tutorial that covers everything? I say this because shoudl I become motivated to create even a beginner tutorial on, say, layers, I would think that my l337 sk1llz barely qualify me as a fledgling noob... and I wouldn't want to give bad information to the new guys.
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I meant to mention that I'm looking forward to this new tutorial when it comes out, but in my previous post I was wondering about info that's already out there that I can get started with.
F4j
Originally posted by Fruda
Note that I said the Skinner's Heaven tutorials are *almost* useless. The only parts I found useful were the weathering/scratches, and also the tutorial for shiny metal. But, that's only about 1/8th of the whole tutorial, so yes, mostly useless.
And as I said, be on the lookout for my tutorial. It goes from the ground-up: from making new layers to adding finishing touches. I'll be releasing it with my P-51D Natural Metal template.
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Originally posted by Octavius
I think for the beginners out there, a short introduction to layers is all that is needed. I had no clue what layers were maybe 6 months ago, and now they are my best friend.
Fruda, which application(s) are you using? Not trying to come off like a salamander or anything, but not too long ago you were looking for advice to get *started* skinning. How do you expect to accomplish a tutorial that covers everything? I say this because shoudl I become motivated to create even a beginner tutorial on, say, layers, I would think that my l337 sk1llz barely qualify me as a fledgling noob... and I wouldn't want to give bad information to the new guys.
I've learned how to skin quite well without your half-assed help. I've almost got my P-51D template finished, and I'm starting work on a 109.
Why do I call it half-assed? Well for starters, there's the "look somewhere else" attitude when somebody asks for help or some tips. Second, there's the fact that most of the templates have no base paint or anything to really help "skinning noobs" get started. I'm not talking about you, Octavius (I haven't even asked you for skinning advice), though I'm not going to name names. And by the way... Why do you say "not to come off like a salamander or anything" when that, in fact, is exactly what you're doing?
And to directly reply... I use Photoshop 7.
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I can agree that there arent many skinning tutorials.. Im still a complete newb to it. i do about 80% of my work in paint. yep.. veryyy sad. Lol bu yeah.. anyways. We really shouldnt be fighting over something thats free to do :(
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Originally posted by Fruda
I've learned how to skin quite well without your half-assed help. I've almost got my P-51D template finished, and I'm starting work on a 109.
Good. Welcome to our world.
Why do I call it half-assed? Well for starters, there's the "look somewhere else" attitude when somebody asks for help or some tips. Second, there's the fact that most of the templates have no base paint or anything to really help "skinning noobs" get started. I'm not talking about you, Octavius (I haven't even asked you for skinning advice), though I'm not going to name names. And by the way... Why do you say "not to come off like a salamander or anything" when that, in fact, is exactly what you're doing?
And to directly reply... I use Photoshop 7.
I havent seen any of your work. The only thing I've seen is a post asking for a tutorial not too long ago. Not only that, but I havent even seen any of your work. Now if you want to make it personal, then fine, we can make it personal. I am merely a tard in the world of skinning and, as I already mentioned, have ways to go in terms of learning and other tricks.
Don't even think about pointing a finger at me or anyone else. You set yourslef up for disappointment looking, no, demanding help in the first place. You asked me online twice for a template. You create one thread looking for a tutorial here (http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=137383) asking for a step-by-step approach. Damnit do the work yourself if you expect and demand help. How do you think the guys producing jaw-dropping material got started? I haven't seen Nopoop or Greebo demanding the community to help. Hell, we never *had* a skinning community til not long ago. If you claim to have "everything down" and have the knowledge to put together a detailed and explicit tutorial, then fine, show us. You should have a good idea of how many hours it takes to put together decent skin with your loads of experience.
I dont have a ton of free time. But I will help someone who is willing to put in some effort and help themselves. Hell, like I said, I dont even think I'm half-qualified to be giving any advice in the first place, being new to it myself! Get it now?
jebus.
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Try here
http://www.aluminumcloud.com/skinning.htm
Includes download files for the tutorials, explains layers etc.
Based around Photoshop, but techniques valid for PSP.
Also it's for CFS but again techiques valid.
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Thanks for the information Kev! <
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F4jCH
Originally posted by Kev367th
Try here
http://www.aluminumcloud.com/skinning.htm
Includes download files for the tutorials, explains layers etc.
Based around Photoshop, but techniques valid for PSP.
Also it's for CFS but again techiques valid.
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Thanks Again Kev,
This is the most helpful information that I've seen to help me get started. See you in the air.
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F4jCH
Originally posted by Kev367th
Try here
http://www.aluminumcloud.com/skinning.htm
Includes download files for the tutorials, explains layers etc.
Based around Photoshop, but techniques valid for PSP.
Also it's for CFS but again techiques valid.
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YW
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I've gotta say, that's definately the most helpful tutorial I've seen. Thanks, Kev.
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Originally posted by Kev367th
Try here
http://www.aluminumcloud.com/skinning.htm
Includes download files for the tutorials, explains layers etc.
Based around Photoshop, but techniques valid for PSP.
Also it's for CFS but again techiques valid.
Thanks, this is what I was looking for.
ack-ack