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Help and Support Forums => Help and Training => Topic started by: Saintaw on May 09, 2000, 09:06:00 AM
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Well, as I have been trying diferent planes lately, I will try out the NIKKI tonight...
I am looking for some advice on how to fight with that plane, as It seems pretty low, has a TERRIBLE rollrate but seems to climb & turn very well...
Does it Keep E well ?
How does it dive ?
High speed Handling seems sloppy....what is the BEST speed to fly it ?
What convergence settings do U use on it ?
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[This message has been edited by Saintaw (edited 05-09-2000).]
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You will like it. It turns fairly well, has a powerful zoom, and packs a good punch. The dive is good. I set convergence to 300. I t will about turn with a Spit IX, and can outclimb the SpitV, so it is very competitive there. The guns take a little getting used to, but overall you should be fond of it.
[This message has been edited by Kieren (edited 05-09-2000).]
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The N1k1 surprised me many times as a Hog driver, I tend to under-estimate their turn and zoom ability and get killed for it. The N1k1's greatest strength is accelleration. It is a good TnB fighter, but bear in mind it does not retain E as well as a Spit. The N1k1 accellerates incredibly well, zooms very well, and has a fantastic initial turn. The best way to use this bird is to keep it around 250 IAS and use it's fast initial turn and big cannons to tag breaking birds. Another good trick is to hide your E by using shallow dives before entering a furball so you come into the fight with a lower altitude but with extra speed. When somebody under-estimates your E state, zoom up under them and blast them to shreds. (Just be sure nobody is homing in on you when you do it.)
The N1k1 has great guns and a fast break. Bear in mind it's stregth is it's accelleration, so use lots of speed changes to force over-shoots and then accellerate back onto the bogey's six. Don't try and turnfight a Spit beyond about 2 turns. If an E fighter like a Hog or Pony is BnZing you, spoil their attacks and keep accellerating, if they don't get you within 3 tries you can zoom up after them and nail them... ask me how I know. <G>
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Kieren Said : The guns take a little getting used to...
Hehehe, the Nikki was the 2nd plane I flew when I started in AH, (After I had my 1st rides with Lephturn in a HOG-D)...
I was in for a change as I can only remember getting Kills from VERY CLOSE... Bullit drop seems awfull on that Burd, but if you hit...he dies (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
I now understand better how all those Nikki drivers got me with Belly shots everytime I Zoomed over them (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Is the Rollrate getting better with Speed or worse ? (I'll remember being at 250ias though...)
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ask me how I know
Well, how do you know (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Actually, the Niki is like a security blanket I continue to turn to when I become frustrated with the other planes. This is THE plane I probably feel the most comfortable with since it suits my natural style of flying the best. Im an aggressive pilot whos valor frquently surpasses his discretion (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
As Kieren and Leph have already stated, this is a plane which can kill you quickly due to its ability to hide E.
In terms of performance, it can hold its own under 20K. Above that, the engine just peters out. Under 20K (at least on the deck) it can outrun spits, almost climb with them and almost turn with them. Its accelleration is phenomenal. With nose down, I can go from 150 to 250 very quickly.
This is also a plane, in which I do not fear higher bogies. My typical tactic is to get my speed up above 200mph and wait for the bogie to swoop down on my 6. I wait until he closes to 1.6k and then begin a hard, nose-down break turn which is right on the fringe of a blackout. When the bogie breaks off, I quickly reverse the roll and turn back into the bogie. If Im lucky (and the bogie dumb) I can get a quick snapshot. I then begin climbing again, all the while keeping my speed around 200ias. I repeat this as necessary. After a while, the bogie usually gets impatient and tries to zoom which I have JUST ENOUGH E to follow up and either get a snapshot or he cannot get guns solution and drops back down to gain speed. Since Im slower, I fall inside of his arc and my accelleration allows me to force him defensive.
On coalt merges, I work for the lead turn. I will usually try to get my speed up as close to 300ias as possible and go for a nose to nose merge. About 1.6 out, I do a low-G barrel roll to avoid any HO and as I roll back upright, move into an Immelman verticle lead turn. Im hoping that the bogie underestimated my speed and thinks that he could extend allowing me a snapshot. If he goes into a zoom at the merge, I use the guns evasive description found in the preceeding paragraph. To reverse the fite.
In summary, the plane is best used in a finesse role. Hide your E and wait for the enemy to make a mistake. Of course, its low alt performance also makes is a nice brute force plane as well (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
G'luck with the Nik....I know I got good luck with it!
-Ding
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Is the Rollrate getting better with Speed or worse
Decent up to a point. Best rollrate is in the 250-300ias range. Gets sluggish when slow and tightens up at high speed.
What convergence settings do U use on it
all 4 20mm cannon at 325ft
Bullit drop seems awfull on that Burd
I used to think that as well, especially after having gotten use to the P51, but flying the La5 convinced me otherwise (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) Talk about Bullit drop...sheesh :P
-Ding
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Thank you very much !
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I have to say I like it (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
I don't know why , but my K/D went from 1.2 to 1.8 in one evening flying the NIKKI only (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Dingy, I hope we can meet in the TA, so U can show me HOW to brae with that rock when I dive !
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My experience with the n1k2 (on both sides of the fence):
- it does indeed a mean zoom climb watch out for that one.
- it can out-turn a spit 9 in an extended flat stall-turn (its happened to me 3 times now) i suspect they can use flaps whereas the flaps on the spit 9 are practically air-brakes (cant use em).
- can out run a spit 9
- accelerates well
- better punch
- gotta allow ALOT of lead for deflection shooting (im hopless at deflection shooting in a n1k).
Its one of those kites i dont like that much dispite the rosey picture i paint of it. Still i prefer to fly the spit if i want a T&B bird. Im better with its guns and it holds E well.
Spat.
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love the NIK but want the zero (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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That Dingy dude has an uncanny ability to point those guns up towards you. Was happilly on my way down to him when suddenly I realised that I saw no real horisontal movement from his aircraft. "Odd, might be la *BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM*.
AAAAARGH! He HO'd me! WHY oh WHY did I not open up?!?
Great move there Dingy <S!>
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cc Santa, 've seen lots of Spits doing that to me......REVEEEEEEEEEEENGE !!!!!
I also found ou that with the Nikki (Due to it's roll rate) you have to anticipate the other's move nearly as much as with a fast plane...
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Saw,
Like Lephturn, this is the plane I had a helluva time with longer than I care to divulge. As a La5 driver, I was getting continually bested by nikis, and I couldn't figure it out. After much offline testing I finally realized the problem: the niki accelerates amazingly fast, especially in any form of a dive. Thus, as long as I stay coalt or higher in my La5 I'm okay, since my ride can zoom just as well as the niki, and it has a higher top speed too. Also, while the niki is a fast diver it's aileron response gets very stiff in a prolonged dive. Finally, I will never turn with a niki, because I will lose.
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[This message has been edited by leonid (edited 05-10-2000).]
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I have to say that I tried the LA5 A couple of times & I like it but for ONE thing : the headshake is way more there than any other plane.... I get sea sick when i fly it (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Otherwise, it's a fine ride !