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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Gunslinger on January 07, 2005, 08:56:36 PM
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I've had the worst week at work that I've had in a while. Earlier this week I broke an F16 (cant really go into that) and it almost had to scrub a flight. I was late this morning, and to top it off I had two things on my schedule go overdue because of rain....not my fault but either way I get put into the spotlight and my recomendation for NCO of the quarter got tore up before my very eyes. My week SUCKED
Well on my 7 minute drive home today I decide tonite is gonna be all about my family and I'm gonna put my work behind me and start fresh on mondy. I just want to laugh and play with my two children. As I walk in the door I hear the collective screaming of two kids and go to see what's going on. I guess they got sent to their rooms and proceded to trash it. Not only that but my son snuck past my mother in law into my room to watch cartoons and "let it snow" with an entire box of lucky charms he had hidden somwere all over my bed. He did this after coating his own room first.
Well through out the night I'm trying to spend time with them but I'm not giving them the surprise I picked up for them on the way home from work till they show me they can earn it. Well While I was cleaning up my room, they went on a mission to mess up every room in the house. I literally wanted to pull my hair out. As punishment. I put them in the corner for 5 minutes while I calmed down. Then I sent them on a lucky charms hunt. Their mission wich they had no choice but to accept for fear of certain bellybutton woopin was to pick up BY HAND all the cerial they spilled through out the house. Through repedative cornering they finally decided they would comply. We calmly made a game out of cleaning the entire house before mommy came home from work and then I went to put a movie in for them because they wanted to watch one. To my astonishment the VCR was filled with sunkist orange soda.
I think I have a blood pressure problem....but all is well now. Turns out after interogation that my Son did most of the mess and the soda and my daughter who was "being mean to him" was trying to stop him. She's out on the couch watching cartoons right now for "quiet time" my son is grounded with no cartoons in his room.
He's TWO! I cannot wait for the TWOs to be over and look at the THREES and say "bring it on!"
thus concludes another day in the life of the clan Gunslinger
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lol
Join the Club mate. Sammy is of the same "cloth".
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Does grounding a 2-year-old have any effect?
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Originally posted by ra
Does grounding a 2-year-old have any effect?
well he turns three in april and he thus far his punishments are mild. I've been instilling apon him the concept of concequences and this is a new level. He hates the fact that he doesnt get cartoon time with his sister right now and she does. It's up to me to uphold the fact that what he did caused these feelings.
at least that's what I"ve come up with so far. The VCR I gave them for christmas to replace their delapitated old on.....its a month old!
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taser him. :aok
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I still believe Corporal Punishment is worth while is certain cases...
Terror
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buy him a peewee 50 dirt bike. all problems solved no question asked.:)
But yes i have seen it happen gun. btw cearal is bad, very. I haven't eaten the stuff since 3 or 4 yeas ago.
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Trust me man, it pays off so much in the end. I can remember when my son was 2 like it was yesterday. Granted, I missed chunks of his growing up later on because of my ex and I splitting, but we both stayed firm on punishment for things done wrong. The result (thus far anyway) is a 14 year old that has a good head on his shoulders, understands the diff. between right and wrong, and is smart enough to figure out which one is going to do better for him in the long run. He must take after his mother, cause at his age I was a SOB, and my mother must be a saint for putting up with 3 of us. My old man was from the school of "whoopin is only good until they are big enough to fight back, then you let them have a crack at you if they got something to prove." Hehe.
Sounds like you got a pretty good handle on bein "Dad". Better than I did at that stage anyway.
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Try being divorced and during the only time (aka Visitation) LOL, and your little Princess Fiona, soon to be three in Feb, looks at her dad, (while jumping on the bed), stops, and looks at me, hands on hips...." Daddy......." yes Lauren? "You dont know S**T!!!"
It took all of me to maintain coolness.........but being a PARENT SUKS!
I politely told her that it was a bad thing to say, and to never talk like that again. She never said it again........
But I had to ask her....where in the world did you learn that?
Well, my little 2, soon to be 3 yr old says....Rachel at school...LOL
IT HAS BEGUN!!!!!!!! LORD PLEASE HELP ME!!!!:aok
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:rofl
Brings back many memories of my kids. Geesh they are grown now.
Great story:lol
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This is why I have dogs.
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You didnt lose any Perks right ??
it was a good day :D
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Originally posted by MwXX
Try being divorced and during the only time (aka Visitation) LOL, and your little Princess Fiona, soon to be three in Feb, looks at her dad, (while jumping on the bed), stops, and looks at me, hands on hips...." Daddy......." yes Lauren? "You dont know S**T!!!"
It took all of me to maintain coolness.........but being a PARENT SUKS!
I politely told her that it was a bad thing to say, and to never talk like that again. She never said it again........
But I had to ask her....where in the world did you learn that?
Well, my little 2, soon to be 3 yr old says....Rachel at school...LOL
IT HAS BEGUN!!!!!!!! LORD PLEASE HELP ME!!!!:aok
OH MAN,
I would have lost it. I'm still working on my restraint mechanism that doesnt allow the kids to get a reaction from me. It works sometimes and others it doesnt.
There's times when I'm discaplining my sone were I put him up against a wall so I know he's paying attention. This seems to be very affective since his eyes imediatly turn to me and his attention miraculously re-appears.
right now he came into the room crying with a pathetic frown saying "daddy, do you still love me? Am I yo bestest buddy?"
Time to turn on the emotional reassurance and let him know that yes I love him very much and he is my best buddy ever but he is in trouble and best buddies get in trouble sometimes. Go back to your room and be a good boy and take your punishment.
A simple "Ok Daddy" and he runs off. Even though I'm pissed at him it kills me to punish him. :p
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Ok, let's do a bit of forensic investigation of the crime scene and see if we can determine a source.
Not only that but my son snuck past my mother in law into my room to watch cartoons and "let it snow" with an entire box of lucky charms he had hidden somwere all over my bed.
Sugar coated cereal filled with solid sugar marshmallows. Check.
To my astonishment the VCR was filled with sunkist orange soda.
High fructose corn syrup (fake sugar)based beverage. Check.
He's TWO!
Naturally hyperactive stage of life. Check.
Do you see a pattern? Sugar (natures Crack) + High Fructose Corn Syrup (ADM's cheaper man made Crack) + natural hyperactivity. Ever hear of milk and carrot sticks? True their commercials are'nt as cool. But when was the last time you heard of a kid going bonzo from too many carrots?
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Originally posted by Gunslinger He's TWO! I cannot wait for the TWOs to be over and look at the THREES and say "bring it on!"
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sorry to burst your bubble but they don't get any better after 2, you just get used to it. a 3 yr old is the same as a 2 year old, only they respond with "why?" to every thing you say (the only proper response to 'why?' is "because I say so".
mine will be 20 next month, doesn't live here, and as a full time resident at 2 was still easier to deal with.
the only advice I can give you is try to keep your sense of humor, and be creative with the punishments. they get real numb to the grounding or other routine punishments and it loses effect.
I always thought grounding was a bad punishment anyway, because someone has to administer it and it grounds you as much as them.
also switching it up a bit, especially if you can do it in a way that is amusing to you, will keep you from giving up. if you appear to enjoy creating new punishments they won't think they can out last you.
my favorite was one Saturday when my son was about 8. I had worked 9 weeks without a day off, and had a Saturday-Sunday break before the next job. finally, a whole nights sleep, a sleep-in morning and 2 days off.
Saturday at 5AM my youngest daughter (4) is screaming at the top of her lungs while trying to beat down my bedroom door.
"JOSH STUCK HIS FINGER IN MY CEREAL!!"
so I do my exploding dad routine. yelling, threatening, stomping around the whole bit. then go back to bed.
I forgot about it for most of the day.
that night a friend and I went to the bar for his B-day, I got home about 3AM, went to bed and was almost asleep when it hit me. "no, hell no!"
so I pull on some sweats and go up to my sons room. (his room is converted from attic space, we couldn't get the springs up the stairs, so he just had a mattress on the floor.)
I turn on his light and stand over him, straddling his waist, pick him up by the front of his pajamas, and shake him awake, screaming- "YOUR MOM WON'T SHARE THE COVERS!! YOUR MOM WON'T SHARE THE COVERS!!".
He wakes up and as soon as he can think he says "what am I supposed to do about it?".
"exactly", and drop him, turn out the lights, and go to bed.
Sunday when I woke up at 11AM to a quite house my son comes up to me and apologizes for Saturday morning, says he thinks he understands what I meant the night before, and will try to do better.
it's all in the delivery.
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good story apathy. Yea I pride myself in being creative. One time the monsters decided to coat the back porch in dirt. They know this is wrong. Instead of cleaning it up I made them fullfill their dream and move dirt from one side of the yard to the other.
now keep in mind these are young kids and I didnt make them haul it while breaking their backs but they did fill up their plastic buckets with their plastic shovels and moved dirt more than a few times accross the yard until they were tired of doing it.
Then I grabbed the garden hose and sprayed them....I mean the porch down real good. ;)
What's funny is the major difference between 2 and 3. Age 2 its just WAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHGGGGGGGGG G! Age 3 its WAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHGGGGG I DONT LIKE YOU ANYMORE!
he may be a monster but I love him none the less
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Good god I was an angel then..
But Soda in the VCR?
Priceless
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I'm guessing your duaghter is the older of the two?
Beware the easy bake oven! (a warning of things to come Gun)
My daughter got an easy bake oven for her 8th birthday last summer. She's been pestering the wife about learning to cook, and the wife thought this would be a good way to start her. My daughter love it! Made everything she could, and would spend her allowance on the kits for it. She even made little cakes for her brothers on thier birthday a couple months later...
Enter 'Hurricane Evil'(tm)
The boys, being naturally curious about everything, are watching thier sister playing with the easy bake oven. Watch mom in the kitchen making biscuits, pancakes, etc, etc. So one day while the wife is out at the store and my daughter is at school the boys lay in wait. I stepped out on the patio to have a smoke, and the boys were right there in the living room watching cartoons.
Phone rings, one of my friends asking for help with thier 'puter, and the Hurricane goes to work. I'm outside for 7-8min, come back in, here an arguement in the back of the house. Then I notice the fridge is open and a chair has been pulled into the kitchen, and a shiver of dread runs down my spine.
Imagine: two 4yr old boys + 5lb bag of sugar + box of bisquik + 1/4gal milk + an easy bake oven and its accessories.
Only good thing I can say about it was they hadn't opened the milk to add it to thier mess yet.
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one good tool is to tell them about the older brother that they were too young to remember.
"you don't remember Billy? well, we all loved Billy a lot, but he just wouldn't mind. so, for the good of the family, he's burried behind the big tree out back."
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Originally posted by ra
Does grounding a 2-year-old have any effect?
I doesn't make sense to me to punish children for displaying age appropriate behaviour.
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The F-16 is my favorite fighter, please dont break any more of them.
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Originally posted by Hawklore
But Soda in the VCR?
Priceless
I think not, or does it still work? :D
Sounds like a busy week there Gunslinger, but no permanent damage (except maybe the vcr :D). Im glad i only have a girl. Oh wait... she wants clothes and makeup and whatnot soon...oH... and girls wants computers too these days...
Thank cod she is not even a year old yet, but im gonna have to start fencing in my AV system soon.
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RPM you beat me to it...
Thrawn... LOL! The trick is to inform them that certain "age appropriate behavior" isn't appropriate as they get older, and sometimes that takes punishment. The kids that aren't taught the idea that actions have consequences are the ones that grow up to think it's ok to drug girls at parties and rape them.
Gunslinger, read RPM's post again. Then put yourself on timeout :)
Seriously, I don't know of a single household that feeds their kids high sugar content foods that doesn't have behavior problems with their kids. My brother even had to eliminate milk from his oldest son's diet because the sugar in the milk would set him off. Growing up as a kid, the wild kids I knew all downed a box of sugar bombs followed by a coke for breakfast.
Advice from a guy who doesn't have kids yet, but who grew up in a house with 4 kids and has had the benefit of watching my older brother's mistakes and successes with 5 kids of his own:
Breakfast = cheerios, or rice krispies, or one of those chex flavors if you don't have time, or if you do have time, low-cholesterol eggs, toast, milk, OJ. Replace the sugar with low-fat protein at breakfast. A small slice of cheese works if they don't like milk.
Any soda in the house ought to be sugar and caffine free, or at least don't combine the two, and limit the kids to one soda a day to keep from going broke. It's only flavored water anyhow.
What to do to fill the gap in their diet? Make popsicles out of real juices, OJ, apple, whatever, but still limit those to one or two a day because of the sugar. Always have a container of peeled and sliced carrot sticks in the fridge for snacking. Rice cakes now come in flavored form, so those can make good snacks. A tiny plastic bag with a few peanuts and maybe a few raisins can keep a kid entertained for an hour. Keep fresh apples and oranges around the house, and remember that if you don't prepare them, the kids won't eat them so every day peel an orange or slice an apple for them to eat.
Before dinner, to shut us up when we were hungry my Mom made us veggie plates instead of an unhealthy snack like potato chips. A couple of carrot sticks, some tomato wedges or cherry tomatos, sliced bell peppers, cucumber slices, etc. It took the edge off our hunger so we didn't drive her nuts while she was cooking dinner, and it kept us from raiding our friend's houses for fatty or sugary snacks around 4-5pm every day. It's healthy too :)
I've heard some people say that if it's not on the WIC approved list, they don't buy it. That's gotta get boring after a while, but maybe it helps them avoid the crap on the shelves.
I'm not saying we didn't have behavioral problems in our house (hehe), but I honestly don't recall a single incident like you just described even when my grandparents or a sitter was watching us. When the kids are spreading chocolate frosted sugar bombs around the house and pouring sugar water into the entertainment center, that's about as loud of a warning sign as you'll get.
BTW, what did you do to that poor viper? Sucks to hear about your award submission getting pulled. I hate to see it but everyone in the force is so on-edge that single incidents seem to get blown way out of proportion nowadays. I have 3 NCOs working for me right now and I really hope I don't overreact like that. As painful as it is to write awards packages, I'd rather do that than holler and shout anyday.
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Very good advice eagl.... always limit the intake of sugar. Not only because kids can get a bit hyper, but they are also more likely to get diabetes and/or other health problems later in life.
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
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Oh there aint no way no way I could ever get angry at a kid like that.
And you aint fooling none of us buddy that little boy has you raped around his little finger.:)
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that little boy has you raped around his little finger
Wombatt, please tell us that you meant "wrapped"...:rofl
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"Not only that but my son snuck past my mother in law "
Beat the F out of tey mudder In Lawless, then explain to her if she can't control the kids any better than that that you'll find someone who can. Remind her where the door is...again.
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I think it is time to nominate you for the TV show "Nanny911".
dago
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I have a 2 year old grand daughter that I watch often and for days at a time....
I let her do whatever she wants.
lazs
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Originally posted by lazs2
I have a 2 year old grand daughter that I watch often and for days at a time....
I let her do whatever she wants.
lazs
Can she play with your arsenal too?
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yep... if she can open the safe or... if she can work the hammer on the Kimber and grip the grip safety and pull the trigger at the same time on the nightstand gun.
I am teaching her about guns and hot rods... the real deal... not the stuff her teachers and the TV and euro trash UN people will be telling her.
as kids we were all raised around guns that were often loaded and within easy reach. We treated them with respect. It is laughable what people belive about guns these days... course we were given safety instructions and training and they don't do that anymore in the interest of..... of safety?
lazs
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Hehe.... You managed to mix both the UN and euro trash into this too lazs, you are something special :D
Lets try another random question and lets see what you can get out of it:
What do you think of plain wallpaper?
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neilsen.. you are the one who managed to bring guns into the topic... I simply repplied to your question in the most thourogh and accurate way.
I was a painting contractor for a dozen or more years with wallcoverings my main trade. Are we talking 54" vinyl or paper backed vinyl or flexwood or what?
lazs
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Originally posted by Nilsen
Hehe.... You managed to mix both the UN and euro trash into this too lazs, you are something special :D
Lets try another random question and lets see what you can get out of it:
What do you think of plain wallpaper?
And so this one too shall learn.
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Gunslinger
Welcome to the Wonderful World of D.A.D.
Despretly Analizing Destruction...
Just kick back and smile, it throws the wifey off and the boys and /or girls.
It helps to mumble the words "Hmmmm...Mortals" every now and then...throws a damper on the Choas.
I've raised 2 Daughters who are now 21 and 16 and I have a 6 year old Son. I went from Barbie Repairman to Model car repair guy. Thought I'd space my kids out abit so I wouldn'd be poor all the time...LMAO it didn't frikken work!!!
So now instead of tromping on "My Lil Ponies" in the middle of the night , I have a fond affection of finding every metal airplane with my bare feet.
Just one note... rid the house of any "Furby's" you may have..they are evil and in the middle of the night, on the way to the pisser, if you bump one it talks and will scare the BeJesus outta ya!
Just some hints...
DAD Level 3
Mac
:aok
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Originally posted by lazs2
neilsen.. you are the one who managed to bring guns into the topic... I simply repplied to your question in the most thourogh and accurate way.
I was a painting contractor for a dozen or more years with wallcoverings my main trade. Are we talking 54" vinyl or paper backed vinyl or flexwood or what?
lazs
You lost me with the technical terms regarding wallpapers. I have a room in the house that has not been finished, and i would like to get it done (or my missus would). Rest of the house is painted on the inside, but i was thinking about trying wallpaper for this room. I like things plain and simple in the house, but my missus wants this room to have some patterns and stuff on the walls... not just plain. Its not big, its 4x5 meters with a window on one of the long and short walls.
Cant say i look forward to tinkering with all that glue and stuff and getting it straight is gonna be hell..... imagine me all tangled up in glue and wallpaper bits with bottles of beer and food stuck everywere on my person:D
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Originally posted by eagl
BTW, what did you do to that poor viper? Sucks to hear about your award submission getting pulled. I hate to see it but everyone in the force is so on-edge that single incidents seem to get blown way out of proportion nowadays. I have 3 NCOs working for me right now and I really hope I don't overreact like that. As painful as it is to write awards packages, I'd rather do that than holler and shout anyday.
I performed an "un-scheduled functional test of the emergancy oxygen activation system" if that says anything. Funny part was that the O2 bottle is an easy fix, but the little part that I broke no longer has a valid NSN so it couldnt be ordered without red tape.
Yup I totally agree with you guys 100% about the suger. Any soda in the house should not go to the kids it should be my mixer for liquer. Normally they arent this bad but like any kids they have their days. Last night after my wife got home I made my son perform a task in order to get his freedom back. He did his chore with out back talk or complaint so he got to come out of his room and join the family. The kids were great the rest of the night and went to bed on time.
the worst part about being a parent is when you dont see eye to eye with your spouse on how the kids should be raised. quite often I am the sole disciplinarian and it kills me to be this way but it has to be done. The secret to overcoming this is proper communication. Somthing that is also lacking sometimes. Either way my kids are my life and I love being a daddy. I get no greater satisfaction from anything else I do in life then when I see my kids succeed at something.
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quite often I am the sole disciplinarian
Dude step away from that space. You do not want to be the BAD guy in raising your children.
It's the "Wait til your Father gets home" scam that all women play out. And never play the "This is gonna hurt me more than you" bit... Your children will only resent you for years to come. You'll never know why either.
Mac
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Originally posted by AWMac
Dude step away from that space. You do not want to be the BAD guy in raising your children.
It's the "Wait til your Father gets home" scam that all women play out. And never play the "This is gonna hurt me more than you" bit... Your children will only resent you for years to come. You'll never know why either.
Mac
I know exactly what you mean but it's either me or nothing sometimes (not allways) I recognized this years ago so I make sure that I find extra things to do with my kids and extra ways to reenforce my love for them. It is a fine balencing act on a tight rope if you ask me. BUT, at least for the most part the kids listen to me 90% more than the other two adults in our house. The woman here use more emotion were I try and use logic. I ALLWAYS talk to the kids after I punish them and discuss the whys and hows of what happend.
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You didn't turn an ejection seat O2 bottle into a rocketship did you? Catch your toe on the ejection seat and pull up one of the handles? Seats are dangerous... Lots of little bits just begging to be tugged on by mistake.
Except for over-Gs, I think the worst I've done to a jet is dropping stuff in the cockpit. I had a radio volume knob just fall off during takeoff roll and I don't think they ever found it even after removing the canopy and pulling both seats. I did once accidentally move the fire extinguisher lever to DISCHARGE instead of TEST, but since I hadn't pushed any of the fire lights nothing happened. If it had discharged anyhow even though the system wasn't armed, I'd have been in deep shxt.
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Originally posted by lazs2
yep... if she can open the safe or... if she can work the hammer on the Kimber and grip the grip safety and pull the trigger at the same time on the nightstand gun.
I am teaching her about guns and hot rods... the real deal... not the stuff her teachers and the TV and euro trash UN people will be telling her.
as kids we were all raised around guns that were often loaded and within easy reach. We treated them with respect. It is laughable what people belive about guns these days... course we were given safety instructions and training and they don't do that anymore in the interest of..... of safety?
lazs
:rofl
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Originally posted by eagl
You didn't turn an ejection seat O2 bottle into a rocketship did you? Catch your toe on the ejection seat and pull up one of the handles? Seats are dangerous... Lots of little bits just begging to be tugged on by mistake.
Except for over-Gs, I think the worst I've done to a jet is dropping stuff in the cockpit. I had a radio volume knob just fall off during takeoff roll and I don't think they ever found it even after removing the canopy and pulling both seats. I did once accidentally move the fire extinguisher lever to DISCHARGE instead of TEST, but since I hadn't pushed any of the fire lights nothing happened. If it had discharged anyhow even though the system wasn't armed, I'd have been in deep shxt.
no I did the equivilent of pulling the "green ring" it's really not a big deal but in my profesion perfection is the standard or people die/pilots don't eject. The seat got stuck druing install and I overlooked the fact that we allready conntected the floor lanyard when we raised it up to correct the condition. This snaped the landyard and activated the bottle.
As far as FOD goes we were pullin seats on a B modle and underneath the FWD seat we found an etched flashlight that the pilot didn't report missing and in the aft we found a set a sunglasses. I'm still waiting to find that lost wallet with $100 bills in it :) Stupid officers :D JK
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Did you hear about the Unintentional inflight ejection of a 15 pilot from eglin? He claims that his O2 hose caught the handle and as he turned his head he punched. Most of us Egress types call BS on it cause it takes 40lbs of force to pull the handles!
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ROTFLMAO "Officers are like that, Yeah they are."
handsomehunkes will try to blame an Enlisted.
Mac
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You're a life support or egress guy? If so, thx for the good work you and your guys do. The success rate is pretty darn good nowadays and that depends almost 100% on how the gear is fitted and maintained. I bet you got one hell of a lecture about "following the T.O." blah blah... Yea, that works until you run across a problem the T.O. or work card doesn't cover, and then you make it up as you go along just like every other guy working on planes throughout history. Hopefully you can shrug it off and do the next job perfect.
At least you didn't drop the canopy on the wing :) I've heard that's expensive.
We had a shop strip down an F-15C here for a big avionics upgrade, but they didn't tie the nose down IAW the T.O. or OI. The next day, 3 kids hopped up top to continue the work and the jet tipped up on it's tail, hitting a work stand in the process and tumbling a couple of the troops off the jet. Oops.
At least the seat and canopy didn't fire on you... Then we might have been reading about another death in the AH family.
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Originally posted by eagl
You're a life support or egress guy? If so, thx for the good work you and your guys do. The success rate is pretty darn good nowadays and that depends almost 100% on how the gear is fitted and maintained. I bet you got one hell of a lecture about "following the T.O." blah blah... Yea, that works until you run across a problem the T.O. or work card doesn't cover, and then you make it up as you go along just like every other guy working on planes throughout history. Hopefully you can shrug it off and do the next job perfect.
At least you didn't drop the canopy on the wing :) I've heard that's expensive.
We had a shop strip down an F-15C here for a big avionics upgrade, but they didn't tie the nose down IAW the T.O. or OI. The next day, 3 kids hopped up top to continue the work and the jet tipped up on it's tail, hitting a work stand in the process and tumbling a couple of the troops off the jet. Oops.
At least the seat and canopy didn't fire on you... Then we might have been reading about another death in the AH family.
I'm egress. Life support usually gets most of the credit and most pilots think they maintain the seats. No biggie. Yup the TO in cases like this is a perfect pad to rest your knee on instead of the stand. It wasn't covered and I got tunnle visioned on the problem at hand and lost my attention to detail. Alot of the stuff we do is "improvised" but it's what's needed to get the job done. God forbid a jet doesnt make mission.
here at edwards we have to be extra precautios with the weight and balence of our jets. Most of them dont' have guns in them and will imidiatly tip without tail jacks installed. My boss wasn't mad at me but the fact that the part we had to order was no longer in the supply system turned on the spotlight. I hate being in the spotlight.
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Regarding the "immaculate ejection"...
It's as good of a guess as any. When he hit the water his cru-69 (whatever) was disconnected from his harness and they never could recover the seat or the plane. He was in a defensive breakturn and that is a violent, aggressive maneuver. At 9 G's his neck is supporting around 200 lbs so not noticing a 40 lb pull on the face isn't unreasonable.
I highly doubt the pilot actually did anything to cause the ejection. In a breakturn the only thing being PULLED is the control stick. Everything else is a PUSH - feet on the pedals, calves, legs, butt muscles all tight, left hand on the throttle or pushing on the canopy rail, etc. Nobody I've talked to can figure out how a guy in a breakturn could pull the handles unless part of his gear was hanging loose and got caught in the handgrips.
That all assumes the seat and associated equipment was functioning properly. No pilot worth a crap is going to point at egress and say "your seat punched him out by itself!", even though that is something that theoretically could have happened. The T-37 -1 has a warning about putting stuff under the seat because if the seat slams down to the floor hard enough and hits something under the seat, it could theoretically fire. There was a landing mishap where a T-38 hit a barrier and the force and angle of the collision fired the seat killing the pilot. It's possible that during the breakturn the seat lowered suddenly and something caught the handles or something else on the seat, and it fired.
I guess my point is that we can't prove what happened, and we can be equally confident that the pilot didn't just pull the handles and the seat didn't just decide to fire itself for no reason. That leaves only a few possibilities, and the only bit of personal equipment that can physically reach the handles and pull them is the O2 hose if the cru-69 (whatever) gets disconnected from the harness. Nothing else really seems to be possible or make any sense.
Now I've heard of F-16 pilots punching themselves out while taking a piss inflight, but the one I remember involved the G-suit at the knees getting hung up on the control stick and the plane going out of control, not anything getting caught on the handles and pulling them. I usually safe the seat before loosening the straps and moving around in the cockpit but that's a personal choice I make.
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Originally posted by eagl
RPM you beat me to it...
Thrawn... LOL! The trick is to inform them that certain "age appropriate behavior" isn't appropriate as they get older, and sometimes that takes punishment. The kids that aren't taught the idea that actions have consequences are the ones that grow up to think it's ok to drug girls at parties and rape them.
Absolutely, I'm certainly not an advocate of a completely laizze faire method of parenting (or lack of parenting).
And in the specific situation I think Gunslinger made a fantasic decision in co-opting his children in fixing the situation (helping to clean up), and depending on his current level of understanding english perhaps an explanation on why it's not okay to dump cereal all over the place. But I honestly think that as far as his boy is concerned that is enough at this stage in his developement. Of course I don't have nearly information nor know Gunslinger or his family, so my opinion is pretty worthless.
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Whee! I have a new OOC sig, if anyone wants it:
my opinion is pretty worthless-Thrawn
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Originally posted by eagl
Wombatt, please tell us that you meant "wrapped"...:rofl
LOL Budweiser king of beers.
Yeah thats what I meant LOL
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Originally posted by Thrawn
Absolutely, I'm certainly not an advocate of a completely laizze faire method of parenting (or lack of parenting).
And in the specific situation I think Gunslinger made a fantasic decision in co-opting his children in fixing the situation (helping to clean up), and depending on his current level of understanding english perhaps an explanation on why it's not okay to dump cereal all over the place. But I honestly think that as far as his boy is concerned that is enough at this stage in his developement. Of course I don't have nearly information nor know Gunslinger or his family, so my opinion is pretty worthless.
You guys are right. There's two year olds that don't understand the concept of punishment.....then there's two year olds that reach a stage when they start to learn and grasp the concept. My son has had an easy ride thus far being the youngest. He turns three in april and the "attitude" portion of his behavior has kicked in full swing. This tells me it's time to upgrade his punishment.
In addition I beleive in the reward system. You reward for good behavior and punish for bad. When my daughter was his age she was a terror too but she was alot smarter. She made a mess one time and I made her scrub the carpet BUT while she scrubbed I made her repeat out loud "when I'm a good girl, good things happen" over and over again. After about 10 minutes I put in barney's "clean up song" and we made a game out of it.
I'm not the best parent and by all means I sometimes spend too much time on the computer and loose my lid every now and then but I allways end up working things out with my kids.
My wife on the other hand wants to be their "best friend" wich I know doesnt work. BUT, we'll definatly find a comprimise if it keeps my daughter from coming home at 16 saying she's pregnant. ;)
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Great thread Gunslinger. Our only child turns 18 on the 13th, and he just got his Eagle scout award. But....I remember those days like the one you started the thread with. Take heart.
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Thrawn raised 3 Gold fish... two drowned, the other ran away. Heh Parenting Thrawn?
LOL
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Mac
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Our only child turns 18 on the 13th, and he just got his Eagle scout award.
WTG Slimm50... you must be one proud Dad!!!
Can't wait to get my Son into Scouting.
:aok
Mac
*my birthday is on the 15th...just send $$$$*
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Congrats slimm50. You probably earned that scouting badge right along with your son. To get the really good extras out of life, you have to show something extra beyond your peers, and achieving eagle scout is a great place to start. If he can stay away from drugs and the rest of the extra-curricular crap that goes on in college, he ought to have a bright future.
Hopefully the work put into the badge can translate into some extra college scholarship cash too :)
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Yeah what Eagl said!!!
:)
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Dont spend your life living for the future, but plan for it.
The future may never come but the present is always there.
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Originally posted by slimm50
Great thread Gunslinger. Our only child turns 18 on the 13th, and he just got his Eagle scout award. But....I remember those days like the one you started the thread with. Take heart.
Like I said earlier.....I receive no greater pleasure in life then watching my children succeed. I'm sure you do to....said it before but I'll say it again...congrats.
AND just because you said this was a great thread:
with God's help my son will grow up to become a fine republican!
LOL ;)
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Originally posted by Lizking
Whee! I have a new OOC sig, if anyone wants it:
my opinion is pretty worthless-Thrawn
Damnit!
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neilsen... wallpaper allmost allways makes a room look smaller and tends to point out imperfections in surface smoothness and plumb.
some is not very durable and the busier the pattern the quicker you will get sick of it. Use vinyl adhesive on any type of paper or fabric. Use it dilutted more to paste "prepasted wallcoverings"
timing is essential and what makes a good paperhanger... you want to paste as many as you can so that you allways have about 3 ready to go... in papers it is to ensure that they swell as much as they are going to so as to not get "bubbles"
It is really fun for me to watch people try to do wallpaper.
lazs
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Originally posted by lazs2
neilsen... wallpaper allmost allways makes a room look smaller and tends to point out imperfections in surface smoothness and plumb.
some is not very durable and the busier the pattern the quicker you will get sick of it. Use vinyl adhesive on any type of paper or fabric. Use it dilutted more to paste "prepasted wallcoverings"
timing is essential and what makes a good paperhanger... you want to paste as many as you can so that you allways have about 3 ready to go... in papers it is to ensure that they swell as much as they are going to so as to not get "bubbles"
It is really fun for me to watch people try to do wallpaper.
lazs
My dad is quite good at it cause every rom in the home i grew up in has wallpaper. I don't wanna ask him to help tho cause i wanna show him that i can do it on my own. :) From what i recall my mom used to ready a new sheet while he was placing one. Think im gonna need the missus to help me.
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neilsen... if it weren't for the frozen pizza and the ice bears.... I would go over to your house and hang it for you.
lazs
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I found this thread searching for something else and it brought a laugh and a tear to my eye. Family, something truely to be thankfull of.
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Originally posted by B17Skull12
buy him a peewee 50 dirt bike. all problems solved no question asked.:)
But yes i have seen it happen gun. btw cearal is bad, very. I haven't eaten the stuff since 3 or 4 yeas ago.
Masturbation causes hairy palms and blindness, and cell phones cause tumors.
No comment on stopping anything.
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
He's TWO! I cannot wait for the TWOs to be over and look at the THREES and say "bring it on!"
"Two" is just practice for "Three". It gets much worse. By the time he's three, he'll be good at it.
You'll have to wait until he's four before you'll get a break. ;)
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Originally posted by Sandman
"Two" is just practice for "Three". It gets much worse. By the time he's three, he'll be good at it.
You'll have to wait until he's four before you'll get a break. ;)
This is an old thread and I was feeling nastalgic. He's Three now and still a monster sometimes but I love him all the same. He's starting to talk back now and get angry wich is really cute if you ask me.
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Well wtf? My parents raised me, divorced when I was 7, or in that range, and I would down 2 soda's a day (remember Surge? supposedly had twice the caffeine of Mountain Dew :aok ). Of course this was a time in which I was outside most of the time playing so I didn't have time to screw around with the house. At one time my mom said we had $10 to live off one week, it wasn't hard to understand. Punishment was nearly non existant when I was at my dad's or my mom's, same when they were together. I think I was grounded once, for about 10 minutes. I'm 16, my sister is 18, neither of us have ever been in any trouble.
I'm never against a good paddling though, my cousin has had the experience of a 12 inch pine paddle striking his hind quarters a few times.
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Gun,
Just wait until the TEEN years!!!:O :furious
Seriously, even though they make you so angry you could just scream, these years will seem to fly past and you'll be laughing about the memories when they are just memories. Then you can get to enjoy being a grandparent, spoil the grandkids, wind them up tight on candy and sugar, then give them back to your kids with a wink saying, pay back is a ***** isn't it.:lol