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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: hulk31st on January 10, 2005, 03:21:28 PM
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Squaddie mentions he thinks a player is *treating* on range vox, he gets muted.
Same squaddie posts on this BB about 2 players he suspects are *treating* and his post is immediately erased.
Why does HTC squelch discussions about *treating*? The majority of players have seen game play that appears 'too good to be true', yet HTC acts as if *treating* doesn't exist.
What is HTC's policy on *treats*? Have they discovered any *treats* in the past? Done anything about them?
We are told to film questionable game play and email them to HTC--what does HTC do with them? Are *treaters* ever caught?
And what about the 'for bribes' link in Hitech's signature block--are *treats* available to those who send Hitech a bottle of scotch?
IMO, HTC can continue to act as if *treating* does not exist or it can come clean and let us know what they are doing to squelch it.
I don't like to play when I feel others are *treating*. I am less motivated to play when I see HTC squelching discussions of *treating* rather than doing something about it.
*substitute with a word that rhymes with treat, treats or treating.*
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He isn't afraid of anything.
E-mail him with your concerns and he will deal with the situation IMMEDIATELY.
Talk about it in-game, or post it here and you won't get any sympathy.
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Hulk:
1. We take cheating very seriously.
2. Rumors of cheating are just as detrimental as cheating.
3. Telling people what we do about to block cheating just helps out the people who would wish to try.
4. Anyone caught hackingis banned permantly .
There is absolutly no good that can come from a discusion of cheating publicly, so email us, and we will deal with it.
This topic is not open to debate, So I suggest you drop the topic.
HiTech
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Yeah what he said!!!!
Now can we have those screenies HYETECK
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"*substitute with a word that rhymes with treat, treats or treating."
"Masterbate" ?
May not rythme but it sure makes a good subsitute in your post
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Is he afriad of spiders ?
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well we know its not sheep.......
:p
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Originally posted by Westy
"*substitute with a word that rhymes with treat, treats or treating."
"Masterbate" ?
May not rythme but it sure makes a good subsitute in your post
ROFL, that's the funniest thing I've read today.
It's like mad-libs for people who can't use the "search" functions of the BBS
-Sik
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Originally posted by Westy
"*substitute with a word that rhymes with treat, treats or treating."
"Masterbate" ?
May not rythme but it sure makes a good subsitute in your post
thanks Westy, I just spit root beer all over my cube.:lol
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Originally posted by hitech
Hulk:
1. We take cheating very seriously.
2. Rumors of cheating are just as detrimental as cheating.
3. Telling people what we do about to block cheating just helps out the people who would wish to try.
4. Anyone caught hackingis banned permantly .
There is absolutly no good that can come from a discusion of cheating publicly, so email us, and we will deal with it.
This topic is not open to debate, So I suggest you drop the topic.
HiTech
I for one hope HTC never puts a spell check on the BBS, cause I just love reading most of what Hefe Grande writes:rofl
Make no bones about it, any emailed info to HTC of suspected "topic":D is fully investegated. It would kill the game if they treated it any other way. Theres alot of things I dont know, but this aint one ofem:aok
Anton
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I will always contend that most people who accuse others of cheating do not understand the ACM that the enemy just pulled off. "Most of the time"
A few months back a squadie of mine stumbled across a game "Bug" that allowed an aircraft to have unlimited WEP. Now what incentive did we have as a squad to turn this bug in? other than honesty nothing. We tested it out in a few aircraft and found it to be a fleetwide bug. I sent an email to HTC instead of posting it on the board and within a week there was a patch to fix it.
Could some of these strange things be happening like this? Im sure its possible. But if there are bugs out there that gives a player an advantage there is not one reason for someone to turn it in except to be honest.
I ask HTC to give some type of reward for turning these bugs in "If they exist or are found". If someone finds a bug that gives them an advantage over another player they should want to turn it in, not keep it to themselves so they can get easier kills.
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My squadies use range channel to accuse people of masterbating all the time, and none have ever been muted :rofl
I refuse to submit films of people masterbating in the main arena as I'm pretty sure its illegal :eek:
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I've heard of people doing some strange things to stay warm at 20k, but that is just redikallous.
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Originally posted by hulk31st
Squaddie mentions he thinks a player is *treating* on range vox, he gets muted.
Same squaddie posts on this BB about 2 players he suspects are *treating* and his post is immediately erased.
Why does HTC squelch discussions about *treating*? The majority of players have seen game play that appears 'too good to be true', yet HTC acts as if *treating* doesn't exist.
What is HTC's policy on *treats*? Have they discovered any *treats* in the past? Done anything about them?
We are told to film questionable game play and email them to HTC--what does HTC do with them? Are *treaters* ever caught?
And what about the 'for bribes' link in Hitech's signature block--are *treats* available to those who send Hitech a bottle of scotch?
IMO, HTC can continue to act as if *treating* does not exist or it can come clean and let us know what they are doing to squelch it.
I don't like to play when I feel others are *treating*. I am less motivated to play when I see HTC squelching discussions of *treating* rather than doing something about it.
*substitute with a word that rhymes with treat, treats or treating.*
What in the world is this fellow talking about?
I cant make any sense out of it.
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Been flyin sice beta..never seen 1 occurence that I would call cheating.
:rolleyes:
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i have never seen or been effected by anyone cheatin..
and i defnlty have never heard of "majority" complainig about cheatn..
u are tripn
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ah, what a bunch of sheep.
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Hum.. what's "Treating"? Ill assume you didn't make a typo since you posted that word many times. Did you mean CHeating?
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hmmm the Taboo of Taboos. What we have here is a failure to communicate! Not to steal anything from "Cool Hand Luke". I'm sure(trust) HTC thoroughly investigates every instance and deals with it heavy-handedly. IMO opinion (for what it's worth) I agree that who was caught and what they were doing is HTC's business. However that said, I don't want to know what was done but knowing who done it and how they were dealt with would be an "incentive Plan" for those that would dare tread on forbidden ground. You can only get away with something so many times eventually you will be caught. In the military( yes I know this game is no military) if an individual was found guilty under UCMJ a copy of the Article 15 could be published on a units bulletin board for all to read. Why? Well to embarrass the individual was not the reason it was to serve as a deterrent for others that would contemplate the same misconduct. ZERO TOLERANCE!!! That’s my dime, do whatever.
RLTW
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never seen an undeniable treat.
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Who said masterbate while flying is cheating??.... oh my...... thought I was a sinner not a cheater:(
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2. Rumors of cheating are just as detrimental as cheating.
I have heard you say that many times in the past. I have never believed it :)
I think all people who are banned for cheating should have their call signs posted on the website to show that the game company is actively doing something about cheaters and to serve as a deterrent to others who might contemplate the same.
To tell people they cant even talk about it and threaten them with banning for talking about it is rediculous imo. But I'm just a peon here, my 14.95/month means nothing in the big picture ;)
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never seen an undeniable treat.
hmmm...ever seen charlize theron in "2 days in the valley" ?
that is an undeniable treat. :D
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Originally posted by Elfie
I have heard you say that many times in the past. I have never believed it :)
I think all people who are banned for cheating should have their call signs posted on the website to show that the game company is actively doing something about cheaters and to serve as a deterrent to others who might contemplate the same.
To tell people they cant even talk about it and threaten them with banning for talking about it is rediculous imo. But I'm just a peon here, my 14.95/month means nothing in the big picture ;)
Wrong on both counts
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Originally posted by StarOfAfrica2
I've heard of people doing some strange things to stay warm at 20k, but that is just redikallous.
not to mention the risk of blindness or hair starting to appear on the palms.
ack-ack
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Originally posted by Elfie
I have heard you say that many times in the past. I have never believed it :)
From a business standpoint it makes perfect sense. How bad do you think the damage would be if one of the gaming magazines or sites mention in their reviews about these rumors of cheating? It could sink a game.
ack-ack
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
From a business standpoint it makes perfect sense. How bad do you think the damage would be if one of the gaming magazines or sites mention in their reviews about these rumors of cheating? It could sink a game.
ack-ack
BS......more than one game out there uses Punkbuster to catch and ban cheating punks now, not a one of those games has sunk. Hiding the word *cheater* in the closet does nothing for the game company. Except maybe make the owner of said company feel better.
It's a sad fact that cheating is a fact of online gaming these days. The only time a game goes under because of cheaters is when the game company turns a blind eye to the cheating going on. Microsoft had an online space game (forget the name atm), people quit that game in droves when the hacks started appearing and Microsoft did nothing to stop the hacks. America's Army admits that hacks are present and uses Punkbuster to deter them. AA is alive and doing very well. (Just 2 examples)
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Originally posted by hulk31st
1. Squaddie mentions he thinks a player is *treating* on range vox, he gets muted.
- Now how did squaddie go about that? Did he give a heads up to weird behavior that he witnessed so others might be able to capture film to send to HTC or at least substaniate the claim? Or was it more along the lines of "Whaaaaaaaaaaa that ****ing ****er is ****ing cheating!"
2. Same squaddie posts on this BB about 2 players he suspects are *treating* and his post is immediately erased.
- His field, his rules. He can erase whatever he wants. If I had my way HTC would delete every single one of funked's posts.
3. Why does HTC squelch discussions about *treating*? The majority of players have seen game play that appears 'too good to be true', yet HTC acts as if *treating* doesn't exist.
- If by "the majority of players have seen game play that is 'too good to be true'" means "Damn I was stupid there and got my arse handed to me so im gonna throw my joystick and maybe hit the cat or snap at the old lady next time she gives me a honeydo etc..." Im sure you are 100% correct.
4. What is HTC's policy on *treats*? Have they discovered any *treats* in the past? Done anything about them?
- What HT said to you.
5. We are told to film questionable game play and email them to HTC--what does HTC do with them? Are *treaters* ever caught?
- Bans them for-evar! And are cheaters ever caught? Im sure every single one has been. That is the thing about cheating. Once you get an edge in a game by dishonest methods, most people can't go back and play fair. They get used to having the upper hand. Eventually they will get caught.
6. And what about the 'for bribes' link in Hitech's signature block--are *treats* available to those who send Hitech a bottle of scotch?
- If i was HT, which i know that im not, that statement right there would get you banned immediately. Insulting someone's integrity like that is just dumb. I assume you were joking.
7. IMO, HTC can continue to act as if *treating* does not exist or it can come clean and let us know what they are doing to squelch it.
- First, HTC and every other game developer knows that someone will always try to get an edge through dishonest means. Occasionally they will suceed. And everytime they will be caught.
Think of it this way. AH is HTC's baby...His life's work so to speak. If someone messes with his life's work, he is gonna be pissed for sure and go out of his way to fix the situation.
Second, what HTC does to get rid of the cheaters is HTC's business, not yours or mine.
8. I don't like to play when I feel others are *treating*. I am less motivated to play when I see HTC squelching discussions of *treating* rather than doing something about it.
- This one is gold. I play hockey. If i see somone with a weird looking curve on his stick, or the goaly's pads at the other end of the ice look a little wide, i dont fall down on the ice and start screaming to every other player and any spectators that the dude is cheating. I quietly call over the ref and point it out..then it is up to him. (eg email HTC directly with your concerns.)
That being said, im not going to stop playing hockey because there might be the odd person out there that might be cheating. Give me a break.
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Ever heard about the Aces High Mile Club??
Now, my regards on cheating: If people think they need to do that, they have to fight it out with their own conscience (oh yes, its an existing thing for some people). And run the risk of eventually being detected and banned by HT.
Flaming and 'talking' it to death on BB serves nothing. Wed be back to the spanish inquisition. Or for people that like it more recent: Neighbours reporting each other to the Stasi in East Germany.
And as has been said before: Supposed 'cheating' might just be better ACM and plane handling, or warping due to bad net connection, or or or....
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I've been doing combats sims for 5 years. I have NEVER seen a fully blown, in ya face "Treater" or masturbator.
I've seen things that people misjudge and call "Treats" i.e incredible turns because the guy had combat trim off and all the best Stick throttle and rudder gear. I've seen folk misjudge an opponents "E" with cries of "I was doing blah blan miles an hour how could you catch me up". I've been ammazed at some folks ability with the 5 inch cv gun. Also been amazed at some folks ability with Gv's but maybe just maybe they are ACTUALLY really better at that stuff than I am.
The only boarder line "Treaters" are the odd one or two and I mean the odd one or two Dial up guys. Seen that more in the other sim than in AH.
I've been accused of "Treating" for killing 2 bombers on 1 pass and for surviving a dog fight in CV ack....We wasn't in the ack!
Now........ stick stirrers are Masturbators. Little hands in full rhythm. Plane bobbing up, down, sideways. Just what are they doing in there. Getting their rocks off with a public display of self abuse :rofl
LYNX......~SOB~
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We're sorry to interrupt your regularly scheduled BBS for a Special Report:
I typed f4uc ingame and got muted. Think the filter needs some work....
Now back to your regularly scheduled BBS.
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
not to mention the risk of blindness or hair starting to appear on the palms.
ack-ack
Ah Ha! NOW I understand what all this talk about stick jerking and stick stirring is about! I used to wonder about those planes that jerked around the sky in such a rhymthic fashion...:D
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Nevar, Evar mention the words "Alien Probe" in his presense EVAR!!!
:rofl
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I knew I finally figured out some of this game when I got accused of cheating
I felt like I graduated :)
NwBie
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Originally posted by hitech
Hulk:
1. We take cheating very seriously.
2. Rumors of cheating are just as detrimental as cheating.
3. Telling people what we do about to block cheating just helps out the people who would wish to try.
4. Anyone caught hackingis banned permantly .
There is absolutly no good that can come from a discusion of cheating publicly, so email us, and we will deal with it.
This topic is not open to debate, So I suggest you drop the topic.
HiTech
this should be in the rules and regulations sections, if it is not already?...
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Hulk31st,
If HiTech Creations Inc. becomes a publicly traded company, then HTC might become redressable to your complaint number 7. in it's public share holders report.
7. IMO, HTC can continue to act as if *treating* does not exist or it can come clean and let us know what they are doing to squelch it.
As long as HTC is a privatly held company, your $14.95 only grants you game play and what HTC chooses to devulge to this community.
As any good Host does, HTC provides you with a venue to voice your concerns. Send HTC an e-mail or call their office. Personaly, I have not experienced anything yet in this game to cause me enough concern to bother HTC in person with my opinions. For $14.95 this is a very smooth and well run operation.
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I've seen real hacks. Like P-51's with unlimited bombs and such. I believe they were banned immediately.
So... treating does exist, and HTC deals with it appropriately.
Any of you ever play Tanarus? We had some wicked hax for that game, like the kill everyone missle :)
g00b
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Originally posted by 68DevilM
this should be in the rules and regulations sections, if it is not already?...
Here's a hint to everyone.....READ THE FORUM RULES STICKY!!!
From the Forum Rules:
8- Cheating allegations or descriptions are not allowed. Email support@hitechcreations.com to report any issues regarding this. HTC permanently bans anyone caught cheating in Aces High. We take cheating and allegations of cheating very seriously.
thank you
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Originally posted by Flit
Wrong on both counts
How so?
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Wtf's being talked about here? Rhymes with treat, huh? Teat? Is that what we're talkin about, teats? Cause if you're a guy and you got teats, then u probably got hairy palms to. Right?
Or was it something about treats? Ya that's it, something like,'Don't look a treathorse in the mouth'.? ...or did that go, 'you can lead a horse to water, but u can't suck on it's teat'?....huh? I guess it's scientifilogically possible to get hairy palms from sucking on horse teats for too long....I guess.
Is that what he was talking about, Scientology?
I didn't know horses could fly that high, Travolta sure has brought a lot to Scientology.
I don't get it? I'll read it again tomorrow when I get liquered up, maybe i'll make some sense of it then.
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people say i'm treating all the time. I have no idea how to treat. I just tell them it's the new treat code i found online.:cool:
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Originally posted by stegor
Who said masterbate while flying is cheating??.... oh my...... thought I was a sinner not a cheater:(
I dont care what hitech says, im not going to stop masterbating!!
:aok
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Originally posted by Elfie
How so?
The fact that you need to be told tells me there's no sense in explaining it to you.
read the forum rules, it's self-explanitory
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Deleted for rule 8.
8- Cheating allegations or descriptions are not allowed. Email support@hitechcreations.com to report any issues regarding this. HTC permanently bans anyone caught cheating in Aces High. We take cheating and allegations of cheating very seriously.
I have let this thread go to far allready.
So time to close it.