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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Stang on January 12, 2005, 08:27:04 PM
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<---- This guy
:D
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Looks like you and me are the only one's with our hands raised.
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Patience Grasshopper. ;)
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If you go to the HTC homepage, then Help, then Getting Started, then Game Play, the first sentence reads:
"Capturing territory through the use of air, land and sea power is the objective of Aces High."
:eek:
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Originally posted by Rolex
If you go to the HTC homepage, then Help, then Getting Started, then Game Play, the first sentence reads:
"Capturing territory through the use of air, land and sea power is the objective of Aces High."
:eek:
:rofl
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I dunno, that part about don't knock down the FHs got me all giddy for a second... :)
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I just want to shoot the freakin 1911!!!
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Originally posted by streetstang
I just want to shoot the freakin 1911!!!
Hell, morph--go down to your local gun shop and get one. They don't cost much.
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Not me, I care deeply about base capture.
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Originally posted by DipStick
Not me, I care deeply about base capture.
I captured a bish base once, but their women were ugly and their beer fridge was empty, so I never bothered with base capture after that.
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Im fully dedicated to blowing up defenseless barns and toolsheds... I don't even know why people would think about shooting someone down in this game... :rolleyes:
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Well if ya got a horde its ok...but not being one to fly goons much because I usually get killed, or ten goons ahead of me get it first, Id have to say nornally, no..I dont care about it much. Plus the maps change so quick, it just doesnt mean anything.
Dogfights, and big bombing missions is why Im here.
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Poor guy didnt know its taboo here to talk about field capture or anything to do with strat, give em a break ;)
Reminds me of years ago on AGW if ya posted anything about likeing to fly relaxed realism.
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i think around 90% of my time in AH is dedicated to getting kills
but when you hook up with somr good people and looking for something fun to do, base attacks are a great answer.
stang i bet even you will enjoy it.
no horde is required.
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Gimme a F3KK1N BREAK!
I love dogfighting just as much as the rest of you. Funny how I can create a movement of excommuniction form this camp. Does not suprise me one bit.
I just don't see how one group of pile-its can manage it... but 80% of the time it's a waste of time anymore.
I miss the days of good fights and fun captures.
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'SYSTEM: Knights have captured field 42'
Batfink: 'we've done what now?'
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Isn't base capture and everything there is to do with it "relaxed" realism?
lazs
Public Relations Officer for the BK's
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Whoa! You can CAPTURE bases?!?
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Funny thing, way back in beta (the first one) the bases were nothing to brag about. Couple Fh's a BH & a VH. Tower sat out there in the middle. Yeah they were there, but nothing to get excited about.
And there were a few, who cared about bases. But mostly we cared about combat.
Now bases are huge, plus citys, fuel, ord, barracks, multiple hangers, etc. And everyones worried about bases!
They can have the bases! Just give me a runway, and some GOOD combat!
Granted I've gotten caught up in the nonsense all too often myself.
Just give me a good 1 on 1 or 2 on 2 where nobody whines afterwards.
Either you lived or you died when it was over you sent a if you thought it was a good fight. Then you WENT OUT AND DID IT AGAIN!!!
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The way I see it is like this: Base capture is for those who suck at ACM and SA.
Oh, wait........I suck at ACM and SA......:(
n/m
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My objective is to have fun.
Have captured bases and have helped out on occasion but on Euro hours there is not often a coordinated effort. Upping and shooting down clueless people is what I like best. Being shot down is what I loathe the most, even after a good fight.
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<---Couldnt capture a cold. (it captures me)
<---Doesnt do base capture.
<---Doesnt like Base capture.
<---WILL fly fighter if needed to HELP Toolshedders.
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Hitech long ago made arrangements for the "No Field Capture" , "No puffy ack" and etc. crowd. I think he named it the Dueling Arena. DA is what the MA would be if you removed elements like these. If it were such a hot concept one would think DA would be filled nightly, in particular with some of the guys above.
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Originally posted by Cooley
Reminds me of years ago on AGW if ya posted anything about likeing to fly relaxed realism.
I remember that. Manly Men fly full realism! I think is was a chant uttered while thumping ones chest.....;)
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Looking for Knights who want to do Luftwaffe duty this saturday night. See "On the Sight" event in Special Events General forum. Also need Rook fighter pilots and bomb crews.
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Spot on Zanth
We need more strat in this game not less.
Dogfighting alone is fine for the arcade!I want to get involved in playing cooperatively with other people. That's why I play online and don't bother with ordinary boxed computer gameswhere you just fight the AI.
Be gone to the DA you furball only junkies ;)
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Or cover my bellybutton when I'm flying the goon to capture the base!
lol
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Nothing worthwile to add......
In
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been there, done that - got the rank to prove it.
it's a big hamster wheel for tards that goes around and around, hence my phrasing - hamstards...
base capture per se is a necessary evil that is supposed to *generate* gameplay. sometimes it does, as often as not it's merely a bunch of barely adequate horde of lawndarts and vulchtards looking for either an easy capture or a bunch of vulches, both of which pad scores and generate massive circle jerks of faux 's and wtg's.
I'd acknowlegde a hard fought for base capture vs dedicated defense than the usual steamrollers seen.
but then, wasn't it yeager who stated, "5% of the pilots get 90% of the kills?"
the more things stay the same, the more things stay the same.
as in golf... play it as it lies. nude AH - never up, never in!!
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the bombing and jabo is fun...a few descent fights develop...than its 50 guys vulching 1 or 2 guys upping. Yawn. Ive found now i like to see how many of the tards i can ho taking off. sad part is i usually trade near one to one. we need a new twist. i want guns turned on for bombers on the ground. (hmm..think ill post)
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Originally posted by Shane
the more things stay the same, the more things stay the same.
as in golf... play it as it lies. nude AH - never up, never in!!
:rofl
LOL that brings back memories of the Big Johnson T-shirts... I'm pretty sure that's exactly what the golf one said hehehe.
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If you go to the HTC homepage, then Help, then Getting Started, then Game Play, the first sentence reads:
"Capturing territory through the use of air, land and sea power is the objective of Aces High."
Then you read this first introductory paragraph on the home page, the main page of the site, and all it seems to talk about is fighting, battling the "science of vintage WW2 air combat" and "High fidelity air combat." Not even a mention of field capture, nor one elsewhere on the home page as far as I could tell (with the exception of some generic "the battle rages 24 hours a day" which could mean the war or it could mean intense fighting.
Aces High takes the art and science of vintage WWII air combat and sets it in an online high intensity environment where hundreds of players can battle it out with and against each other. High fidelity air combat is the heart of Aces High, but it doesn't end there. In addition to flying a multitude of aircraft types, players can also man vehicles, boats, amphibs, gun batteries, and ships. It's the most diverse virtual arsenal available to players in this genre and it's constantly growing through frequent updates. In the air, on land, and at sea, the battle rages 24 hours a day with participants from around the world.
Unfortunately, intense player vs. player combat is contradictory to what is currently the most efficient way to win the war (for much of a map). That doesn't have to be the case, but for now that's how it works out. This is a game infrastructure issue that is up to HTC to solve, or not solve, as they see fit.
Charon
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Originally posted by Shane
but then, wasn't it yeager who stated, "5% of the pilots get 90% of the kills?"
True, but Yeager was a hording slobberdonkey vulcher :D
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Big fight tonight!
No Talent Base Capture Dweebs Vs. Heroic A2A killers
or
Dedicated War Winning Patriots vs. Selfish Quaker Furball Dweebs...
you make the call!
Look/goto for Shubie (bish) leading the BoP Horde and look/goto me (knights) as a point of reference (I ain't leadin' nobody, but I'll be there) for the knight counter air. Bring your favorite toy.
Put up or shut up! Feel the pain, relish the hate!
GRRRRRRR
:mad: :mad: :mad:
Starts
9:30 E
8:30 C
7:30 M
6:30 P
Charon
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Originally posted by Zanth
Hitech long ago made arrangements for the "No Field Capture" , "No puffy ack" and etc. crowd. I think he named it the Dueling Arena. DA is what the MA would be if you removed elements like these. If it were such a hot concept one would think DA would be filled nightly, in particular with some of the guys above.
Exactly. Why fly in MA if you dont care about bases, strat, captures. Seems like the quality of dogfits would be better in the DA given that is all that goes on there. Maybe its because they get splashed in the DA and need to shoot down jabos or newbs to feel good.
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I do not care about taking bases or losing bases. I have fun flying a fighter, bomber, driving a tank, being a gunner. I am having a ball do everything.
So I do not care about base taking per se.
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How about this for a new map.
3 continents separated by large bodies of water, the 3 continents all come together at a single points. In the water are some islands that have bases on them not many but strategically placed.
The only way any one country can get a foot hold on any of the other countries continents is either to attack at the point where they all meet , island hop across the water or attack from CVs.
In the early stages of the map this would limit the number of bases that could be effectively attacked allowing for more concentrated defense. It would also increase the importance of CV's making for some serious CV battles. It would also increase the use of long range bombing. Though I know people don't want to fly 20 minutes to bomb a base. Not to mention the use of CV based bombers which are completely neglected in the current maps
The horders won't have a choice but to attack strategic bases. The furballer can be there waiting for them.
I know there are probably a 1000 reasons why some think this is a bad idea but it made sense to me. Serious combat, good air battles and base capture that actually has some meaning.
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Originally posted by Stang
:rofl LOL that brings back memories of the Big Johnson T-shirts... I'm pretty sure that's exactly what the golf one said hehehe.
yeah it did :aok , but i find it just as applicable to AH, or rather bases low.
:D
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Originally posted by rshubert
Hell, morph--go down to your local gun shop and get one. They don't cost much.
Im surprised Morph hasnt shot one as of yet. His Dad owns a Nice Gun shop. At least i think im remembering this correctly?
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Originally posted by Zanth
Hitech long ago made arrangements for the "No Field Capture" , "No puffy ack" and etc. crowd. I think he named it the Dueling Arena. DA is what the MA would be if you removed elements like these. If it were such a hot concept one would think DA would be filled nightly, in particular with some of the guys above.
Zanth. You are forgetting one important fact. The "Poach factor"
Poaching in AH is my reference to the act of seeking out Fighters that are heavy laiden with Bombs and Roc's. Then you follow them into the base and lightem up as they are on climbout after their drop. This is in my opinion the act responsible for 80% of the so called "Air Combat" in AH. This is what keeps the "Fighters only players" outa the DA and in the MA showing their skill.
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Yeah you're remembering correctly MugZ.
We own two businesses and I've got several nice old WW2 and pre WW2 1911's.
But when I bail out and start walking around with that Colt in my hands... I start to twitchich. Why can't I just get one bullet!?:)
Think of the posibilities!:D
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Base Capture would be great....if it involved Base Defense....which it doesn't usually.
The vast majority of Base Capture action that I see is a gargantuan cluster of one country (rook, knight, bishop...they all do it) hitting an undefended base.
If a large defensive group does happen to show up, the Base Capture folks tend to run away to some other less threatening area to continue their pursuit of the "Holy Grail" of Aces High......"field AXXX has been captured by country xxx"
That said I like it when on the rare occasion a base can be fought for and over by opposing countries. It just doesn't seem to happen much anymore.
P.S. I always thought that DA stood for Dueling Arena...not Furball Arena. I really think that if there were a furball type of area within an existing map it would be full all the time. In fact I thought that the CT was designed more for the strat type players in the game. I've noticed that it's been quite full of late, I suspect because there is some "Base Defense" going on in there.
Zaphod
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Why can't I just get one bullet!?
If ht gave you just one ... then you can change your handle to "Barney Fife" .... Mayberry RFD ... :D
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Originally posted by Charon
Big fight tonight!
No Talent Base Capture Dweebs Vs. Heroic A2A killers
or
Dedicated War Winning Patriots vs. Selfish Quaker Furball Dweebs...
you make the call!
Look/goto for Shubie (bish) leading the BoP Horde and look/goto me (knights) as a point of reference (I ain't leadin' nobody, but I'll be there) for the knight counter air. Bring your favorite toy.
Put up or shut up! Feel the pain, relish the hate!
GRRRRRRR
:mad: :mad: :mad:
Starts
9:30 E
8:30 C
7:30 M
6:30 P
Charon
I'd be willing to bet the A2A guys could take a field much easier then the toolshed guys. I've yet to see an impressive base capture from the "win the war crowd" where the enemy was present...
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Our squad loves base captures....in December, I think we took 100 Bases.... it's all about the reset!
Somehow, we manage to get kills while we are at it, imagine?
Right now we have at least 4 of the top 10 ranked pilots in the game.. (Here is where the thread shifts to "Rank don't mean squat"). Rank isn't my point though...I am merely saying you can do it all while capturing bases.
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Originally posted by TalonX
Right now we have at least 4 of the top 10 ranked pilots in the game.. (Here is where the thread shifts to "Rank don't mean squat"). Rank isn't my point though...I am merely saying you can do it all while capturing bases.
It doesn't :aok
What it affords is lots of opportunities to score points and rack up some easy kills as you guys capture bases that aren't defended very seriously, so you guys probably end up landing an attack, bomber or fighter sortie scoring lots of "points" that garner you that higher rank. Nothing wrong with it, jus saying it's not hard to do and for most of us "older" players it just isn't our cup of tea anymore. As Shane said most of us have done that rank thing and moved on, because frankly playing the game in that context most of us found lacking.
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why was rank even mentioned?
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<--------moved on
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Being the #'s dweeb that I am, I have to say at this particular time, I care absolutely squat about a base capture. I want fighter planes to shoot down. Matter of fact, would like to catch a P-40E and a P-38L low on the deck in my CHOG. hehehe
:-)
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I have just finished a tour in Dec. where I was watching rank. I didnt do that bad either. Upon completion, I have found a statement that sums up my feelings on being ranked low, "Rank schmank!"
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Back again folks. TalonX makes a good point you can take bases and do quite well with the rank. I give to their squad because I think they're good folks and are capable of doing that. I am hitting a boredom phase. I feel exactly like Stang's original thought minus any disrespect that is taken. Taking bases is great. Just not doing it for me right now. :-)
By the way, can anyone tell that I just got BB account activated. hehehe
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id have to say that base capture is always a priority when on offence, defence is another matter.
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Originally posted by streetstang
Yeah you're remembering correctly MugZ.
We own two businesses and I've got several nice old WW2 and pre WW2 1911's.
But when I bail out and start walking around with that Colt in my hands... I start to twitchich. Why can't I just get one bullet!?:)
Think of the posibilities!:D
Oh, ok, you're talking about thevirtual AH 1911. I hear it has a nasty recoil, and is not very accurate, and only works well with 230gr. FMJ ball ammo.
Needs tuning. No beavertail. GI sights, GI safety.
Yucky.
shubie
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Originally posted by 031598
Being the #'s dweeb that I am, I have to say at this particular time, I care absolutely squat about a base capture. I want fighter planes to shoot down. Matter of fact, would like to catch a P-40E and a P-38L low on the deck in my CHOG. hehehe :-)
So you can cherry pick them?
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lol, no I was just razzing Stang and XJ! will fight them anywhere I can find them. Matter of fact, would like a Pony thrown in for you Jamusta. hehehe :-)
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I like the pony but can fight in jug and hog just a little better.
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Oh, then definitely throw CHOG and Jug40 in. Those are presently my 2 fav planes. Although, any Jug or hog will do. I prefer the Jug 25 and 40 and the F4U-1 and F4U-1C
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Originally posted by Stang
<---- This guy
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so you probably the guy in the 190, that gets off in just barreling down a runway and shooting unexpecting uppers,
unlike myself,who enjoys killing suspecting uppers who keep trying to up:p
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i suck
goodbye im not returning, waves are 4ft some bigger and super clean