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Help and Support Forums => Aces High Bug Reports => Topic started by: Mortuuse on January 14, 2005, 11:10:40 PM
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ok so your camping hangers waiting on the m3 to arrive to the base your trying to steal back from the bish and boom your dead from thin air. i know people have complained about this before but its starting to get kinda old. i personally have died to many times to count waiting on the dang m3 and the hangers pop. then like clockwork, they start spawning and you start killing. then there is a pause, nothing to kill. but then a tracer comes flying out of the hanger and kills you 1 shot. funny thing is they would have been dead had i been able to see them.
tonight there were 4 of us camping a nit VH. wonder was in a tiger to my right and beside the selection hanger. in my turret and pointed directly into the hanger i see a shot fired out of ether which promptly kills me. i know i would have 20% less deaths in GV if it was fixed.
same thing happens when your trying to supress a spawn after a long battle. you battle them back to the spawn and start camping it. get a few kills and then a tracer comes out of thin air and kills you. then someone finally sees them and kills them. they up again and are invisable to everyone and take out another camper.
IMHO they should not show up at all until EVERYONE involved can see them. please address this HITECH
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Umm, ever try not camping the spawn? Its one thing to camp a VH, least they can see the base flashing and maybe the camper from the tower but camping a long distance spawn is boring/easy.
Hate to say this but I have little sympathy in this matter. Take your time HTC, better yet, vary the spawn point by 2k so long distance spawn camping isn't possible.
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Originally posted by Delirium
Umm, ever try not camping the spawn? Its one thing to camp a VH, least they can see the base flashing and maybe the camper from the tower but camping a long distance spawn is boring/easy.
Hate to say this but I have little sympathy in this matter. Take your time HTC, better yet, vary the spawn point by 2k so long distance spawn camping isn't possible.
as long as vulching is allowed, leave spawn camping alone, its the same thing.
unless u wana randomize plane spawns by 2k or more?
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Yeah I have seen this same thing. I have film of it happening. It seems to me that it happens when someone switches vehicles. If they keep upping panzers you can kill them, but they switch to t-34 there is a lag. Should be fixed. No reason someone should be able to kill somoeone else that cant see them.
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i hate to say it but sometimes you have to camp. how else are you posed ta keep cap so you can take the base or defend when its absolutly needed?
its part of the game and its sometimes required. im talking about the times it is required. rarly do i ever goto a spawn looking for a camp. i end up camping after we push gvs back to their spawn and we are looking to keep them from taking our base.
course i wouldnt expect furballers to understand.
it needs to be fixed.
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Originally posted by whels
unless u wana randomize plane spawns by 2k or more?
No need, again, someone taking off at a field can not only see the base flashing but can look out the tower windows for the enemy.
Spawning away from a VH you have zero hope, none.
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Originally posted by Delirium
Umm, ever try not camping the spawn? Its one thing to camp a VH, least they can see the base flashing and maybe the camper from the tower but camping a long distance spawn is boring/easy.
Hate to say this but I have little sympathy in this matter. Take your time HTC, better yet, vary the spawn point by 2k so long distance spawn camping isn't possible.
woah! back yer horse up or better yet pop a wheelie. in case you forgot this is the bug report forum and not the general forum. only thing i expected to read on this thread is, "yea! happens to me too!" or "yes its a problem." or " hasnt happened to me" or "were working on the problem." NOT your lame opinion. if you dont like spawn campers why dont you start a thread in the general forum or something? your reply to my thread is sorta off topic for the forum with one exception.
"vary the spawn point by 2k so long distance spawn camping isn't possible."
this is about the only relevant thing you said in your reply and is sort of a good idea. it would solve in part the problem. this is why i hate posting
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Originally posted by Delirium
No need, again, someone taking off at a field can not only see the base flashing but can look out the tower windows for the enemy.
Spawning away from a VH you have zero hope, none.
your replys sir have nothing to do with the porblem at hand. i am posting about invisable spawners nothing more. not wether its right or wrong.
again, gvs are spawning invisable and do not show for 10 to 15 seconds. and im pretty sure this is unintentional. therefore it is a bug and needs to be addressed. will someone in HT staff adress it? or do i have to keep reading in the BUG forum about how wrong it is?
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Trust me, when I say "Keep reading". :rolleyes:
SCDR
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Originally posted by Mortuuse
your replys sir have nothing to do with the porblem at hand. i am posting about invisable spawners nothing more. not wether its right or wrong.
again, gvs are spawning invisable and do not show for 10 to 15 seconds. and im pretty sure this is unintentional. therefore it is a bug and needs to be addressed. will someone in HT staff adress it? or do i have to keep reading in the BUG forum about how wrong it is?
Absolutely right. This forum is for reporting bugs and not for arguing the right or wrong of the issue. Of course, responding in kind doesnt help either. You do seem a little defensive about it. Just curious, would you have run in here to report the bug if the shoe was on the other foot? If the spawns couldnt see you? Or would you laugh and rack up the kills?
Oh and stop being so self righteous. You obviously have a guilt complex from all your camping or you wouldnt get so defensive so easily. HTC will take note of your report and fix it in a timely manner, but they cant fix the problem without figuring out what caused it. In the meantime, either grow a thicker skin or change your tactics. If someone needling you about your spawn camping digs that deep, maybe you shouldnt do it anymore. You might need counseling at this rate.
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This has been a long running problem. Yes it happens to everybody. I have found that it happens more on lower end machines due to the amount of fps. like it takes a few seconds to load the vehicle on your screen. I've had em spawn in and their turret is almost aiming at me, other times i get the tracer of death from outer space
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same thing happened at a spawn point 4-5 of us were "camping". I saw a tracer then the next thing the guy sitting next to me blew up, another tracer and another friendly GV blew up which by the way was a complete 90 degrees in another direction from the first guy. Low and behold a few seconds later the NME GV that was doing the shooting appeared and was immediately shot (cause u could see the guy). Bug or not something is wrong. GV's upping until the 2 friendlies were dead from the invisible GV were appearing JUST FINE and being engaged as they appeared. Filmed the entire incident as well. Very frustrating.
RLTW
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I have had people say that I was invisible for a few seconds when I spawn.
My guess is it is a lag related issue because I am stuck with a 56k out here in the farm fields. :) but I hear that the phone company is 5 miles away with fiber optic cable and commin my way. :)
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My apologies to Mortuuse, it was wrong of me to use a bug forum to question anyone's activities, regardless if I agree to their methods or not.
I am not retracting any of my comments, but I shall leave such comments in other forums. Once again, I apologize for using this forum...
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hey, not asking for apologies or anything and maybe i do get a bit defensive :) just dont want a serious thread on a serious forum hijacked is all. sure yall can understand. im fining myself in a gv alot this month. getting killed gets frustrating when you know its nothing you done wrong.:)
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I too have had the invisible tank either take out my turrent or kill me. I have been told by several people that its a lag connection problem. Not sure how to fix it, but just wanted to add my 2 cents worth:D
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HTC doesn't usually respond to bug reports here, so I wouldn't be upset if you don't see one. That doesn't mean they don't look at the report. We usually read their responses in the 'release notes' of bug fixes in updates. :-)
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Just as a solution to htc if they read this..
.the bug might be related to the invisable pt boat at 600m to 1.5 k as well, i think there is a graphic or image collision between the tanks and the ground and hanger, the water and the pt boat's, i also notices I see a few hurri in the vh at a few vh bases (u know which ones) that will start rolling before we have a image on them to yea VULCH!..i do believe it is a image collision problem of some sort!
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Spawn Lag?? What convenient terminology. Just remove the GUI Move Time option in setup. See how many invisible tanks firing tracers there are then. Spawn lag.....................yeah right.
Give em a crutch and the weak surely will exploit it.
RLTW