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General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: 68DevilM on January 20, 2005, 02:17:46 PM
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looking for a cheap 17inch lcd monitor too buy and suggestions?
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BenQ has el-cheapo but relatevely high quality screens.
A 17-inch can sell as low as 230 euros (287USD) but the cheapest ones usually lack the speed required for gaming.
You see, you can get an awesome flat screen for office use.. But for gaming its a whole new ballpark. You need to be looking for screens with maximum of 16ms refresh times. Best at the moment are 8ms.
For a 8ms 17" screen you'll pay roughly 500USD while you can get a 19" for around 600USD with the same speed. :(
So the price point is not appealing at all for a small screen.
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Here you go bud:
WARM Office Depot: 17" KDS LCD Monitor $179.99 AR
KDS 17" FLAT PANEL LCD MONITOR MODEL: RAD-7si
Response Time: 10-15ms
Contrast Ratio: 450:1
Max Res: 1280x1024
VGA OUTPUT ONLY
$299.99 -$70 -$30 -$20 rebates = $179.99, in store only.
I wish I could find offers like this in europe. Heh, we get half the salary and stuff is a third more expensive.
Lucky bastages you are!
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That looks too good to be true. There must be some catch! Maybe horrible ghosting and everything looks blue. :)
Seriously though I'd check some reviews and check it out in person before you buy.
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Hey the offer is in-store only so you try what you buy right?
Be aware that the refresh rate has been notified in rise and downtime separated (apparently to fool you.)
The real refresh is therefore the typical 25ms. That may be too slow for AH and certainly too slow for first person shooting.
For that price I'd give it a try anyway.
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Originally posted by Siaf__csf
but the cheapest ones usually lack the speed required for gaming.
You see, you can get an awesome flat screen for office use.. But for gaming its a whole new ballpark. You need to be looking for screens with maximum of 16ms refresh times. Best at the moment are 8ms.
you said i dont want cheap for gameing, so i should still be looking for one at 16ms, but they dont exist?
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Check the 19" ones too. They're not much more than the 17" ones. Get 1280x1024 minimum resolution, make darn sure it has 8 bit color depth (16 million colors), and make sure it had DVI input even if your current vid card doesn't have dvi output.
25ms or better refresh rate is supposedly the standard, but not all manufacturers report it the same so take the refresh time numbers with a grain of salt.
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Here's some, I have the Syncmaster 712n and it works fine with 12ms response.
http://www.newegg.com/app/searchProductResult.asp?Submit=Go&Range=1&DEPA=0&bop=and&description=lcd+monitor&InnerManu=1077
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68 they do exist just not for that price. :mad:
If you were looking for an office monitor, then the cheapo would do just fine. If you need it for gaming prepare to pay a lot more than that.
8ms (Samsung, Benq) is the way to go.
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stoped at circuit city today, and sales man told me that for gameing, my tube montor was better suited...
almost dropped $300.00 on a 17inch gateway.
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Salesmen will tell you whatever suits them.
He was only partially right as in fast movements CRT is better. However LCD/TFT is 100x better for eyes in the long run.
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Originally posted by 68DevilM
stoped at circuit city today, and sales man told me that for gameing, my tube montor was better suited...
almost dropped $300.00 on a 17inch gateway.
any 17 or 19 inch LCD will run games fine as long as u get
a ms of 16 or less. i use a MEC 17" LCD 15ms responce
and it runs AH better then my 19" crt did.
whels
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I don't feel like looking for it but there was a thread in which Skuzzy said for gaming he is yet to find an LCD that beats a good CRT...or something like that.
I just bought a new Dell Gen 4 which came with either a 17" LCD or a 19" CRT. I chose the CRT.
I set up my old machine, with an NEC 17" LCD, next to the 19" CRT and ran both. CRT was sooooooo much better it was incredible.
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But they don't make 50" CRTs. :D
(http://tinypic.com/mk6te)
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Wow...now THAT is a monitor.
What brand is that? Does it have a TV receiver in it? How much?
Me likey. :)
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Originally posted by Curval
Wow...now THAT is a monitor.
What brand is that? Does it have a TV receiver in it? How much?
Me likey. :)
That's not a monitor... THIS is a monitor (well.. 7 monitors). Only $10,500 (+ $900 for the wall mount)
(http://www.digitaltigers.com/images/tigervista-arenaelite_600w.jpg)
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Originally posted by Curval
Wow...now THAT is a monitor.
What brand is that? Does it have a TV receiver in it? How much?
Me likey. :)
Panasonic. Two tv receivers, 2 VGA, 1 DVI, 4 component inputs and several others. Connected to High Definition cable. Was $3100 last Xmas but can be found for maybe $2200 now. I paid another $700 for Sears 5 year plan (well worth it since replacement lamp is $400+).
EDIT - Actually, I just came from Sears and it was on sale for $2799 but may have been the model with the built in HDef tuner. My cable company giives me a free HDef tuner anyway.
http://www2.panasonic.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/vModelDetail?storeId=11251&catalogId=11005&itemId=71397&catGroupId=11254&displayTab=S&surfModel=PT-50LC14&surfCategory=LCD%20Projection%20HDTVs%20and%20HDTV%20Monitors
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My wife is gonna hate you man.
What is the response time on that badboy?
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Originally posted by Curval
My wife is gonna hate you man.
What is the response time on that badboy?
They don't actually list a response time as it is a rear projection LCD. It is primarily an H-Def TV but they call it a Multi Media Display. Unlike Rear projection CRTs it is 15" deep, weighs 85 lbs and doesn't suffer from screen burn-in. I don't see any ghosting in AH. Slight blurring looking out side of F15 canopy during head-on pass with Mig both going Mach 1 or very fast head movement with TrackIR.
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Originally posted by DAVENRINO
But they don't make 50" CRTs. :D
(http://tinypic.com/mk6te)
im drooling all over my keyboard
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what does ms stand for
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MilliSeconds. One thousandth of a second.
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everytime i see an add for a lcd it only gives spec's for resolution, brightness, contrast.
anyone got a site that rates theses monitors, and gives ms's
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Any manufacturer site would do that.
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Just got the Sony SDM-HS94P 19" LCD Screen.
All's I can say is I'm quite impressed.
Had a sony 19" Trinitron and I'll say that the LCD is better.
With the 12ms response time I see no ghosting in AH nor WW2OL.
I highly recommend it.
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It still works after displaying WW2OL? I guess Sony makes SOMETHING right.. :p
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got a 19" with ana/digital input for 363usd at Bestbuy, got it on dig. input and have to admit the pic is pretty nice.