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General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: rod367th on January 20, 2005, 03:09:18 PM
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http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1087917&CatId=1619&SRCCODE=WEBRB163&CMP=EMC-TIGEREMAIL
939 asus a8v plus 3400 amd 64 bit cpu 279 dollars lowest i've seen....
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Hmmm 939 motherboard and a 754 processor....good deal!
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It is if he mails me the CPU after he finds out it won't fit! :aok
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I have seen it posted here and two friends told me today. Good luck on getting the rebate. I was so close to buying this when they had the case included.
i emailed my best friend, he called less than a minute later telling me to avoid tiger direct like the plauge. I held off the purchase...
apparently he got screwed by tiger.
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I'm running 3400 amd 64 bit with my 939 asus a8v mb right now. no problems ever with tiger.
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did you have a rebate?
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yes got back 100
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there is a 939 AMD64 3400
I just installed one in a asus a8v, both from newegg
1 gig of ram and two raid 0 sata 80gig drives for C drive, this beast is fast
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The socket game simply sucks. You need to be really careful with the hardware nowadays, if the socket is right is the bus speed supported etc.
It seems that 754 was just a pain in the butt (I bought one.)
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OK, it would appear that some believe that they have a 3400+ 939 pin processor. If you get the chance, would you please run the CPUZ program (can be found at CPUID website) and see how your cpu is identified, what core, what process (.90 or 1.30) and what the highest mutiplier is? I saw the 3400+ at Newegg about 4-6 months ago, but it quickly disappeared. If you got this cpu from Newegg, I'd be curious to know what they sent you.
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I saw the 3400+ at Newegg about 4-6 months ago, but it quickly disappeared.
It's there now.
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Your right. However its a 754 pin cpu...not the rare and exotic 939 pin processor that tiger direct has for sale. Admittedly, the pins are fragile, so maybe it can be forced onto a 939 socket. Just use wire cutters to snip off anything that hangs out. =)
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Darn you're right. I saw a socket 939 A64 3400 OEM on newegg last night. Obviously it was a mistake, they took it down quickly.
In bold red letters under the specifications it read something along the lines that it could only be purchased with a suitable motherboard.
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AMD dual cores when they come out may work with some current 939 MBs but will require bios upgrade.....obviously....I have been told....
I believe the 754 config also...
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Originally posted by adios
OK, it would appear that some believe that they have a 3400+ 939 pin processor. If you get the chance, would you please run the CPUZ program (can be found at CPUID website) and see how your cpu is identified, what core, what process (.90 or 1.30) and what the highest mutiplier is? I saw the 3400+ at Newegg about 4-6 months ago, but it quickly disappeared. If you got this cpu from Newegg, I'd be curious to know what they sent you.
here you go:
(http://www.disalle.com/amd64_3400.jpg)
MY CPUZ (http://www.disalle.com/cpuz.htm)
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It appears to be a 3500+ reporting itself as a 3400+. The voltage is off a bit, but that could be the motherboard, so no real problem there.
Take a look at the AMD roadmap from Anandtech http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2303
You can see that AMD has no 3400+ 939 chips in the past, present or future. Neither Anandtech, Tom's Hardware, [H]OCP, Sharky Extreme, Hexus nor etc. have ever tested a 3400+ 939 because it doesn't exist. If you don't believe any of this so far, go try to buy this cpu....I doubt you'll find one.
About 2 years ago, AMD and Newegg were having a spat because Newegg was selling the 3200 XP weeks before it offiially shipped to market, so I know Newegg has vast connections with vendors and will occasionally cross the line. On the good side, Newegg keeps great sales records, so if you run into a problem, I'm sure they would back the product no questions asked.
Where this cpu came from...why is it renamed a 3400+...who's benefiting from the sales...? I have no clue. Would I recommend getting involved with the TigerDirect deal?.....No, probably not.
To buy an unauthorized cpu with the 130nm process and the A8V to save less than $100 is a crapshoot at best. First, you have to "front " $380 and then wait and hope you get your $100 rebate to bring your grand total to $280.
I'd recommend getting the 3200+ 90nm Winchester (with a reputation for great overclocking headroom) and the Abit AV8 for a grand total of $278 (Pricewatch - many vendors). It'll run cooler and match the 3500+ (3400+) with just a mild overclock AND YA GOT $2 TO BUY A BEER WHILE YA ASSEMBLE YOUR NEW SYSTEM.
OK, I made myself thirsty....
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To Eagler: I want to thank you for taking the time and posting that CPU-Z report. Its visual proof that you do indeed have a 3400+ 939. Personally, I think you did OK.
much appreciated
adios
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Originally posted by adios
To Eagler: I want to thank you for taking the time and posting that CPU-Z report. Its visual proof that you do indeed have a 3400+ 939. Personally, I think you did OK.
much appreciated
adios
you are welcome
open for any suggestions:
memory settings, voltages, etc... to get the most out of this combo
I do not know what my bus or ram freq should/can be, cas settings, etc ..
tia
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Strange, just CPU-Z my 3500
Everything is exactly the same down to the speeds, stepping etc.
Only 1 difference - mine reports itself as a 3500.
Seems as thoguh there 'may' be some s939 3400's going around running at 3500's speeds.
Or is that 3500's going around reporting themselves as 3400's?
Who knows, as long as it works.
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Eagler........go to this site and bookmark
http://www.ocforums.com/
You'll be able to see what other people are doing with the 3500+ and the A8V....lots of info. Same for memory and power supplies.
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The 3400+ is an OEM. Here is info from AMD :
Thank you for contacting AMD's Technical Service Center.
Please keep in mind that the Athlon 64 3400+ 939-pin processors are
available in OEM versions only. So warranty coverage for the Athlon 64
3400+ 939-pin processors must be directed to the vendor where you
purchase this from and not with AMD.
Unfortunately, we currently do not have any technical specifications
for this processor available online for you to view. Please do be
aware, however, that the Athlon 64 3400+ 939-pin processor has
technical specifications very similar to that of the Athlon 64 3500+
939-pin processor. The only exception would be the fact that the
HyperTransport Link speed for the 3400+ is limited to 800MHz as opposed
to the 3500+ speed of 1GHz.
I have included a link to view further details on the specifications
for the 3500+ for your reference.
http://www.amd.com/us-en/Proce...485_9487^...7^10248,00.html
Hope this helps. If you have any other questions, please feel free to
contact me.
Regards,
Liza
Customer Support Analyst
AMD TSC
Acetnt
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Just to add to the mix rumor is the next generation Opterons will be socket 1012!!!!!!
Even funnier Intels next offering will set records for Wattage and heat produced. Maybe it will come will a set of oven gloves and a mini refridgerator to put the whole system in.
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Originally posted by adios
Would I recommend getting involved with the TigerDirect deal?.....No, probably not.
I am not a tigerdirect fanboy but waited till I got back my 100 rebate before answering this. In Jan I oredered the A7V and 3400+ 939 from tigerdirect and submitted the rebate forms. I received the $100 rebate yesterday (within the 4-6wk promised time). So I am one happy camper and the new machine really rocks (after figuring out how to setup the A8V)
Acetnt
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Wouldn't it be beter to wait until summer when the dual core CPU come and the 4k 64 price would drop like monica?
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Originally posted by Kev367th
Just to add to the mix rumor is the next generation Opterons will be socket 1012!!!!!!
Even funnier Intels next offering will set records for Wattage and heat produced. Maybe it will come will a set of oven gloves and a mini refridgerator to put the whole system in.
Good so then I can put some ham and cheese and a 6 pack of coke inside my case and make some sandwhiches while I fly. :D
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Originally posted by Glasses
Wouldn't it be beter to wait until summer when the dual core CPU come and the 4k 64 price would drop like monica?
Summer was 6months away - they were selling a 3400+ 939 A64 with an A8V deluxe MB, heatsink, fan, case, keyboard and cheap speakers for 299 (after 100 rebate) was a really good deal.
Now if I waited till summer for dual core then I may just be tempted to wait for winter when the next big thing comes out :-).
Acetnt
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Hell I wait for summer for a 4000+ 64 and a 939 board :D