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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: streetstang on January 21, 2005, 03:46:07 PM
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... about the bribes.
WHAT is it gonna take for you guys to do the Mustang IA? You know the Mustang with 4x20mm hispanios. As rare as they were I need one. Very badly. You can perk it 2x's that of the 262. I've been askin for this baby for a long time now. :)
Now as far as the bribes go. How many bottles? Name your poison.
Where did your bribe link go??? Are you saying you can't be bought??? Nonsence!
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I like this request much better than the brewster =) Just make sure to give it an identifiable tag unlike the F4U1-C. This thing would be a HOSS!
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No tags. A mustang is a mustang, a spit is a spit...
Now the 163, 262, 152 and Tempest are tagged by default.
I just don't feel the F4Us, P51s, and Spits should be. They're just not fast enough to get out of the gangbang!
But what do I care, I rarely fly perkies anyway.... don't know what I'm going to do with all these points.:rofl
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That'd be a fun one :)
I'm for it :aok
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I'd be willing to keep my perk points up to fly a P47N all the time.:aok
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v156/ststang2/stofp51.jpg)
She is so beautiful
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the one on the wing is morph with Rod in the rear of the photo.
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I have to go with Morph and Recon on this one.
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Originally posted by recon7
No tags. A mustang is a mustang, a spit is a spit...
Now the 163, 262, 152 and Tempest are tagged by default.
I just don't feel the F4Us, P51s, and Spits should be. They're just not fast enough to get out of the gangbang!
The Spitfire Mk XIV doesn't seem to be a SPIT and the F4U-4 doesn't seem to be an F4U.
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You do realize that this is the model with the under powered Allison engines, right?
ack-ack
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The Spitfire Mk XIV doesn't seem to be a SPIT and the F4U-4 doesn't seem to be an F4U.
What?
I agree the Spit XIV doesn't fly like a spit, but the 4Hog is pure Hog Heaven!
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F4Us, P51s, and Spits should be. They're just not fast enough to get out of the gangbang!
am i reading this right? P51s and F4U-4 arent fast enough to get away? please pass what you are smoking...
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
You do realize that this is the model with the under powered Allison engines, right?
ack-ack
I am well aware of its performance specifications.
It is basicly a P51 B with slightly less sack, bigger guns and doesnt turn as well. Like I said, basicly.
It is inevitable that someone will come in here and tell me what I need. (not saying you). BUt they're going to do so by comparing the 51D to the Mustang IA. So what?
Exactly so what. Why fly the F4u1 when you've got the Chog? Why fly the P40B when you've got the E?
The point I'm making lies within my questions above.
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hey morph, why just flying the Chog?
same guns, Chog probably out turns it, and is faster?
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Why not just fly an La7?
I can out turn just about any plane in the game and chase down almost anyone just as easily with it.
Edit: Not trying to be a smart arse. But you see the point yes?
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Why fly at all? Everyone knows the land grab and gound war is where it's at.
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Bribes ? "Nothin' better that a stinkin' Bribe!!
How about a party bus full of strippers , lots ah booze, an a picknick basket just stuffed with pizza, Bartel's and James Blue Hawiian's , pretzels, cheezits,chips, hamburgers, , taco's , Corona's
and the trunk stuffed with bottles of Scotch ............
for a 51 with cannons .......WooHoo !
CHECKERS
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Originally posted by mechanic
the one on the wing is morph with Rod in the rear of the photo.
Rod is Morphs personal Tailgunner :rofl
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I would settle for a 1a with the four .50's Imagine a mustang that would stay low and could turn and fite.
lazs
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LoL Nomak:aok
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It would just be very cool is all to have the IA in the game. Hell, i know its slower, doesnt turn as well ect ect ect. But we have 3 variations of the Jug too... With each one being better than the other at one thing or another.
As far as I know it wasn't very different from the early stangs but for the quad 20m gun package. The gun package being the rarity of the variant. It would make a very fun little ground attack plane as well as a nasty fighter in the right hands ofcourse.
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Originally posted by Stang
Why fly at all? Everyone knows the land grab and gound war is where it's at.
:lol :rofl :lol :rofl :lol
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I would very much love the IA. I prefer flying the B over the D, but much prefer cannons over .50 cal any day of the week.:D
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(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/613_1106459677_p51_5.jpg)
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aww hell yeah, awsome picture!
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100% behind this after the P61 crew gets a much needed rest.
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How about pyro fix the twittlered twittlers ? :D
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man, why no bubble canopy??
would suck with no bubble canopy.
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I want a Bi-plane! Enough with the Fokkers they are - - - -, well guess :D
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Isnt the hispano mustang heavier, slower, worse airodynamics and worse engine than the P51B?
And the perk plane icon stuff is bull****. Its ok for a 262 163 and ta152 because there is nothing similar.
But a spit14 should have the same icon as other spits.. f4u should be the same icon for all of em and tempest should have typhoon icon.
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if we ever get a quad hispano pony
I want a quad hispano spit !!!!
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the 1a was lighter and more nimble than the merlin powered mustangs. It was very fast at low alts (below about 12k) and could chase down or get away from 190's on the deck.
lazs
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Originally posted by Blixen
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/613_1106459677_p51_5.jpg)
that terrein looks like trinity! :D
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Originally posted by Schutt
Isnt the hispano mustang heavier, slower, worse airodynamics and worse engine than the P51B?
No, the Mustang Mk1a (P-51, with no letter designation for USAAF) weighed less than the P-51B, by about 300 lbs. Typically, the Allison engine installation weighed less than the Merlin. I do not believe that there was any significant difference in drag either.
I would expect the Allison Mustangs to be a bit more maneuverable than the P-51B and have an even greater advantage over the P-51D. However, its middling acceleration and climb offsets that.
What would make the Mustang Mk.Ia a premier ride is the guns. Does anyone think the Tempest would be perked if it was armed like a Hurricane Mk.I? Despite its speed, it would be a hanger queen if it wasn't for the quad Hispanos.
My regards,
Widewing
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Originally posted by Flyboy
if we ever get a quad hispano pony
I want a quad hispano spit !!!!
Been asking for 4x20mm Spit 5 for a while now.
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4X20mm Spit V ... Makes my tongue hard just thinking about it. :lol
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I wouldnt be suppriced if HTC adds more versions of each plane when do the rework of each and every model.....
Tex
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
You do realize that this is the model with the under powered Allison engines, right?
ack-ack
Ssssh...quiet...its our job to educate with the 38!
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Originally posted by streetstang
Now as far as the bribes go. How many bottles? Name your poison.
Where did your bribe link go??? Are you saying you can't be bought??? Nonsence!
As many bribes as it took to produce the rediculous 3-4 versions of the P-38...
P-38 for goodness sake?!?
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Spit1
Spit5
Spit9
Spit14
:)
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Rather Vague when ya say 190s, what type? A3's - A4's i would think. Ah *** dont matter LUFT Suck #### anyways, better find something else to compare to so you get the "correct" specs :D
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lmao flyboy, just read your sig - rather fitting for this topic :cool:
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Originally posted by streetstang
Spit1
Spit5
Spit9
Spit14
:)
Yup and look at em -
1) Spit 1 - Hanger queen apart from scenarios.
2) Spit 5 - Best spit in the game.
3) Spit 9 - Be nice with a Merlin 66, as it stands it's a mongrel version of different Spits (fuel tanks etc).
4) Spit 14 - Ridiculously overperked!!!!!!!!
Let us have -
2a) Spit 5 with 4x20mm option.
5) Spit LF MkVIII with clipped wings.
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Will be getting this after the p61 and b29 right?
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P61 i can see a piont in.
WHAT in the name of everything holly AH do we need a B29 in AH for??
So you can drop tons after tons of bombs on more fields to wreck more fights???
Its bad enough we have lazer guided bombs now that can shut a field down in a single pass.
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Originally posted by streetstang
WHAT in the name of everything holly AH do we need a B29 in AH for??
We need this with a nuke on it just so there will finally be a valid reason for running away.
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Originally posted by streetstang
Spit1
Spit5
Spit9
Spit14
:)
Ok well at least give us some variety, lets maybe add a few Italian planes? Maybe more Russian while your at it.. It's the quality not the quantity..
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Originally posted by Kev367th
Yup and look at em -
1) Spit 1 - Hanger queen apart from scenarios.
2) Spit 5 - Best spit in the game.
3) Spit 9 - Be nice with a Merlin 66, as it stands it's a mongrel version of different Spits (fuel tanks etc).
4) Spit 14 - Ridiculously overperked!!!!!!!!
Let us have -
2a) Spit 5 with 4x20mm option.
5) Spit LF MkVIII with clipped wings.
Spit 1 is still the best of this bunch. LMAO "Hanger Queen"! Get the f**k out of here with that please.
Karaya
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Ones view of quality is up for debate IMHO.
But that horse can be beaten and most likely will be beaten long after it's dead.
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
Spit 1 is still the best of this bunch. LMAO "Hanger Queen"! Get the f**k out of here with that please.
Karaya
If you check the stats for the spit1 Ka, it's probably one of the single most least used planes in the entire set. You can exclude bombers too if you'd like. It'll see be in the top 10 least used. I'm not saying its a capable plane in the least bit though.
But it is a hanger queen in the MA 99.9% of the time.
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Enough with the four cannon Spit V requests already :)
I love Spits and then some, but they just weren't using four cannon Spit Vs outside of one Squadron doing ground attack work in Italy and they also had the large tropical filters on them so they would have been dogs in terms of performance. They definately weren't dogfighting with them. Seems to me the Spit V jockey's in AH do quite well with the 2 cannon Vc they have already.
As for Allison Mustangs, wouldn't it make more sense to go with the version the RAF was flying or the one used extensively by the 1st Air Commandos in the CBI? The A36 saw a fair amount of service as well in Sicily and Italy. Since everyone's bomb the toolshed's happy, a dive bombing Allison Mustang would fit right in.
Dan/Slack
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Originally posted by streetstang
If you check the stats for the spit1 Ka, it's probably one of the single most least used planes in the entire set. You can exclude bombers too if you'd like. It'll see be in the top 10 least used. I'm not saying its a capable plane in the least bit though.
But it is a hanger queen in the MA 99.9% of the time.
That's because some are timid about using it because "it stalls". A 2-3 second burst on a wing results in a kill. Sadly, AH2 has evolved into a "Cannon Based" game.
Karaya
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
That's because some are timid about using it because "it stalls". A 2-3 second burst on a wing results in a kill. Sadly, AH2 has evolved into a "Cannon Based" game.
Karaya
I'll take the 8 turbolazers on the jug over just about anything except maybe 4 hispanos
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AH2 has evolved into a "Cannon Based" game.
With a hit bubble reduced to the size of a pin head, I can't understand why.
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Strangely enough it seems to me at least that although the Seafire and Spit 5 are for all purposes almost identical, the Seafires guns seem to do more damage.
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Originally posted by streetstang
Ones view of quality is up for debate IMHO.
Aye...
My view of quality is quite lavish, different strokes for different folks i suppose..
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Originally posted by Kev367th
Strangely enough it seems to me at least that although the Seafire and Spit 5 are for all purposes almost identical, the Seafires guns seem to do more damage.
Seafire stalls alot easier than the Spit 5...
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In warbirds we have same spits 1,5,9,14 ( 2 spit5's variants )
In Warbirds we have a rolling plane set.
ie not all planes available at the same time in ww2arena.
spit1 early war : better than the 109e - disadvantage negative G cutout)
spit5 early : better than 109e but with
carburettor ( negative G cutout)
Spit5 late : better turn but worse climb than adversary 109F and slower than 109F
spit5 late vs 190 : outclassed in all but turn.
spit9 vs 190 : close match - turn vs speed and handling ( 190 does handle much better at speed E retention of 190 suck)
spit14 (fm is not up to date and it suck compared with dora (which also suck :) but is better than 109k (which also suck gun-wise 30mm)
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Ki-84-I-Otsu with 4 x 20mm.
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I don't think for the time being we'll have a nuke in AH why simple there are many Japanese players here and to this day Japan lives with the horror of having two atomic bombs dropped on them(Played Metal Gear Solid lately?) .
Point being it's very touchy, for us in the "US" side me included are somewhat detached from the prospect or the horror of a nuclear bomb being dropped on us ,well because it hasn't happened, imagine if someone made a a Game where you could be one of the terrorists in 9/11 and fly into the building simulating killing thausends of innocents, I'm pretty sure that would angry every American, and pseudo ones,besides being of bad taste .
Of course the same can be argued about conventional bombs but they're limited to an area and are of conventional means,sure they were the enemy then but they're not now and have not been for more than half a century.
just IMO