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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: mietla on January 21, 2005, 04:11:28 PM
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It is not often that you can see a successful rocket launch while soviet national anthem plays in a background.
desiat, deviat, vosem, sem, shest, piat, chetire, tree, dva, adin,
poosk
http://www.moonrace2001.org/av/garyr.mov
http://www.moonrace2001.org/av/david.mov
.... and the whole story.
http://www.moonrace2001.org/
(http://www.mazurfamily.com/andy/salute.jpg)
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I was there, it was great.
At the same event, a guy named Andy Woerner launched a 12 foot high V2. It headed upwards, then one of the engines apparently exploded. It tilted over towards the crowd and began flying sideways. It passed about 200 feet over the crowd and impacted 20 or so feet past the last parked car, making a huge crater in the desert.
It was an awesome experience, if sad.
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Futuristic? Wait till Boroda shows here.
This is N1, as real as it gets. Just more successful than the original I might say.
;)
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mietla, that last link you had originally posted had a nasty little pop-up in it. Just FYI. It is why I removed the link.
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Originally posted by GScholz
Did the original fly at all?
Well, yes and no. No offiicial successful flight, but they've managed to blew up a bunch of them in a process.
http://www.moonrace2001.org/n1_history.shtml
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
mietla, that last link you had originally posted had a nasty little pop-up in it. Just FYI. It is why I removed the link.
pop up? I never saw that. I'm using Firefox so maybe that's why.
I'll check in out later today. Thanks for taking care of this.
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Originally posted by GScholz
Did the original fly at all?
The original flew.
Briefly.
Both launches ended up exploding, one of them on the pad (it destroyed the tower, launch pad, etc. Early surveillance photos of the aftermath suspected an atomic explosion).
Many space historians believe that the Soviet Union's decision not to build mounts to test fire the stages seperately on the ground significantly contributed to the problems, from a project management perspective.
Technically, what most likely happened was that the extremely complicated plumbing (look at how many engines the real one had versus the Saturn V) meant that a failure in one line could shrapnelize surrounding rockets. The KORD engine management system that the N1 used was a lowtech, but theoretically adequate crisis control system. If an engine at one side of the rocket failed, it would shut down the corresponding engine on the other side to prevent uneven thrust, and theoretically there was enough power in the remaining engines to allow a succesful launch regardless.
In reality, KORD appeared to shut down too many engines, leading many to suspect that some type of catastrophic failure occured in the engine bay, taking out a whole bank of turbopumps or plumbing. End result, rocket lifts off, hovers, then falls backwards into the tower.
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BTW, you mean nasty like in dirty or nasty like in annoying?
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Any popup is nasty.
Specifically, yours was because an image you posted required HTTP authenitication to get at. Consequently, we all got a big window asking for username/password for the server the picture was based on.
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What Chairboy said.
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GS, you want to take the phone calls from people who do not understand why our board is asking for a login/password?
Not everyone (heck,..most people) understands what is going on when things like this happen.
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I think he was just explaining to Mietla what the popup was, rather than second-guessing your edit, Skuzz.
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LOL, on the other hand...
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Hehe,..this took an interesting turn. Sorry for the hijack mietla.
Pay? Are you nuts? :D
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
Hehe,..this took an interesting turn. Sorry for the hijack mietla.
Pay? Are you nuts? :D
that's ok, you did the right thing. I forgot that I'm always logged in there so I do not see any pop ups.
Sorry for the trouble.
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Neat,
I feel the urge to salute...
Awesome take off for no fins...
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Maybe HTC could outsource their call center; i.e send Skuzzy to the Bahamas... :D
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N-1 could carry less payload then Saturn-V anyway...
Leonov and other cosmonauts from "moon team" said they officially volunteered to start to the moon on Proton launch vehicle, that had like 1/2 of the launches with explosions, but Party didn't agree to risk their lives. Leonov said they volunteered even if probability of successfull launch was 1/10...
If only we didn't have to participate in arms race...
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Originally posted by Boroda
If only we didn't have to participate in arms race...
Have to?
Why did you start it then? You could have stopped any time and feed your people for a change.
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
GS, you want to take the phone calls from people who do not understand why our board is asking for a login/password?
Not everyone (heck,..most people) understands what is going on when things like this happen.
LOL i see that morrons are everywhere :D
my costumer: your mail server is broken
me: whats wrong
mc: no reply from server
me: whats your outgoing server ?
mc: smtp
me: name or address
mc: smtp
me: just "smtp"
mc: yes
me: did it work before ?
mc: ummm .. noo
me: sry our mail server is quite ok, fix your settings
lol it doesnt happen that often. Just 1 or 2 times in 3 months. But i never trough, that some people are so big morrons to call because link on BBS doesnt work :D
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I went to LRDS 2000 - wish I had waited a year for this shot. 22 feet, 42 motors clustered and staged, and 200 lbs with no pad and guide rails. Hellova job.
(http://www.moonrace2001.org/photos/n1launch1js.jpg)
(http://www.moonrace2001.org/photos/boosterintruck.jpg)
(http://www.moonrace2001.org/graphics/mc_summary.gif)
(http://www.moonrace2001.org/photos/n1liftoff4ed.jpg)
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Originally posted by GScholz
You know mietla ... the Russians didn't invent the bomb ...
neither did Norwegians, what's your point?
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Originally posted by mietla
(http://www.mazurfamily.com/andy/salute.jpg)
Holy crap its Benny Hill!
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Originally posted by mietla
(http://www.mazurfamily.com/andy/salute.jpg)
Since when did you start wearing boxers mietla?
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Originally posted by Vulcan
Holy crap its Benny Hill!
(http://www.northoltwing.com/~mietla/benny.jpg)