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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: jaxxo on January 25, 2005, 01:43:51 PM
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Find myself in la7 more and more alot lately..I can chase down and outfly 4 or planes per sortie (granted la7 just outmatches alot of them on the deck)....or up a "vet plane" and cruise at 10k or so hoping the the guy doesnt point nose down and run all day (good luck with that). Personaly Ive found it very difficult to even find a "good fight" lately. Fun is fun right? Im starting not to feel ashamed flying it..that scares me. Will be having a sale on my acm's shortly....I dont need them anymore.
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http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=139854
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bail...
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LOL Jaxx,
Same here, I got so tired of pinging a guy a couple time as he blows merge only to have him runaway and get killed by some other guy and I get the assist.
It was really bad on the last map Baltic or what ever it was.
As fot the ACM I have gotten so used to the spit V that it actually was a hoot to try and throw the LA7 around like that 8).
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yea mars its a fun ride no doubt. can always run if it gets hairy..than reverse for cherry when they turn away
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Fly a 51 or a Tempest. For some reason I was a dweeb when in a LA7 or a NIK but I get an
if I am in a 51 or a Tempest :rofl
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Originally posted by dedalos
Fly a 51 or a Tempest. For some reason I was a dweeb when in a LA7 or a NIK but I get an if I am in a 51 or a Tempest :rofl
You will always be a DWEEB ... no matter what plane you fly ... simple fact of life.
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Originally posted by SlapShot
You will always be a DWEEB ... no matter what plane you fly ... simple fact of life.
I knew that was comming as soon as I pressed the submit button, :rofl
However, a faster plane will allow me to steal more of your kills and then run and leave you die, when the reenforcements arrive.
Muahahahhahhahahahahhahaha :rofl
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Originally posted by jaxxo
Will be having a sale on my acm's shortly....I dont need them anymore.
How can you sell something that you've never had?
ack-ack
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Ouch Ack Ack.
:D
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Yea Im the worst akak. Probably 90 % of the guys in AH are better than me.:rolleyes: There are a handful who can hand me my arse regularly...which could easily be remedied with some advanced "training". I dont know if your trolling with a statement like that..but it was uncalled for. It's all good though..keep being a smug tard. You can look up that word..fits you nicely.
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Originally posted by jaxxo
Yea Im the worst akak. Probably 90 % of the guys in AH are better than me.:rolleyes: There are a handful who can hand me my arse regularly...which could easily be remedied with some advanced "training". I dont know if your trolling with a statement like that..but it was uncalled for. It's all good though..keep being a smug tard. You can look up that word..fits you nicely.
touche :-)
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
How can you sell something that you've never had?
ack-ack
In the stock market they call it "going short".
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
How can you sell something that you've never had?
ack-ack
If it was from anyone else I would say they were just messin' around.
I dunno..... I have read posts from AKAK in the past and not really been sure how to take the guy. Not that I have any problem with him. I figure hes just a bird of a different feather.
He comes off as real cocky to me but then again so do you Jaxxo. Just take it with a grain of salt and dont think twice.
c yas up.... Dave
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fair enough. Its not a big deal. Just seeing if anyone else had same opinions or ideas and I get insulted..pickin fights on the bbs lol..thats rich.
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Considering many of us don't have the time to fly every plane & practice hours on end, I also take the laffer to get up, get kills, & get landings in the limited time alotted per day (some per week).
I say, fly whats fun, fly for fun, I'm not here to please some who's favorite plane is a 202.
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Originally posted by jaxxo
Find myself in la7 more and more alot lately..I can chase down and outfly 4 or planes per sortie (granted la7 just outmatches alot of them on the deck)....or up a "vet plane" and cruise at 10k or so hoping the the guy doesnt point nose down and run all day (good luck with that). Personaly Ive found it very difficult to even find a "good fight" lately. Fun is fun right? Im starting not to feel ashamed flying it..that scares me. Will be having a sale on my acm's shortly....I dont need them anymore.
My thoughts EXACTLY!
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Well if it makes you Lala turds :D feel any better..
I make you my first targets in a fight next to the highest enemy plane..
I hate La7's becuase of thier .... massive dweeb threat.
You can kill 8 cons in a fight and rtb low ammo and fuel,,, and one of those turds will always follow you and catch up.
So when I'm up in the air I target La7's with vengence,,,
Just looked at my stats they seem to be my #3 target... usualy I think its 2, ponies and spits up in the top 3 fighter kills.
So when I see a furbal and I have an oportunity for 2 or 3 BnZ's beffore im right in the middle of it.... Ussualy its 2 or 3 la7z that go down first.
So LALA turds check you high six .... Typhoon diving in!
I think this is a tactic that everyone should endorse!
Just like every one jumps on a Perkplane.... jump on the La7's
That should make it a little harder for them to fly that easy plane.
MonkeyMeat
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Originally posted by MnkyMeat
bla bla bla bla LA7, bla bla bla LA7
MonkeyMeat
Comon Mnky. Your plane is one of the fastest in the game and has the firepower to go with it. Now, given that you only engage when you have the advantage and that (per prev conversations) you do not engage lalas, please give it a rest. If its an easy mode plane, then jump in it and land 10 kills tonight.
I think u are upset that you cant run from them, maybe? Take some time and think how many times you came in with alt and/or friends over our base. You were very breave when I was in a low slow KI61 but run home and landed once I picked up a lala. Remember your comments that night?
Believe it or not, LA7s can be killed. Learn how to fight them. Do you want to talk about massive dweeb threat? How about a couple of high Tyffs that run home after they lose alt advantage?
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Originally posted by dedalos
....Do you want to talk about massive dweeb threat? How about a couple of high Tyffs that run home after they lose alt advantage?
Too much profound truth in this thread.
Can someone please violate BBS rules so we can bury it?
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It'll be a cold day in hell before I ever up an La7 to satisfy my need for kills.
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(http://FilthysForum.homestead.com/files/la7ez.jpg)
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
It'll be a cold day in hell before I ever up an La7 to satisfy my need for kills.
Well thats just silly. Its not what you fly its how you fly it that counts. Any aircraft can be flown like a dweeb. Just as any aircraft can be flown like a hero.
c yas up.... Dave
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
It'll be a cold day in hell before I ever up an La7 to satisfy my need for kills.
yeap, there are other ways to sutisfy that need right?
Its not the need for kills. Its the need to stop an inbound mission after the base started flashing and the first vulchers are 2K out. The lala can be of the runway in seconds and actually stop them because everyone is too good to protect the goon or they think that protecting the goon is flying 2K above it. Then tey are pissed at the lala dweeb.
If nothing else, lalas put up a fight. I cant say the same for the rest of the fast planes. The other thing they do really well and it is what I think pisses people off, is that it messes with their score. They cannot run from it. And since their main skill is hit and run or vulch and run, they don;t know what to do when the lala is 2K behind them. Instead of turning and fighting, they close their eyes and pray they make it to the next friendly ack.
I wonder if the lala was made in the USA if we would see so many complains about it
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Originally posted by FiLtH
Lol, you are right. Its not as hard as flying a NIK, is it?
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Never understood the La7 thing I've never considered them all that good and always give Yaks and La5's higher priority. Guess like the Spit9 the majority flying them don't have a clue.
...-Gixer
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Originally posted by dedalos
yeap, there are other ways to sutisfy that need right?
Its not the need for kills. Its the need to stop an inbound mission after the base started flashing and the first vulchers are 2K out. The lala can be of the runway in seconds and actually stop them because everyone is too good to protect the goon or they think that protecting the goon is flying 2K above it. Then tey are pissed at the lala dweeb.
If nothing else, lalas put up a fight. I cant say the same for the rest of the fast planes. The other thing they do really well and it is what I think pisses people off, is that it messes with their score. They cannot run from it. And since their main skill is hit and run or vulch and run, they don;t know what to do when the lala is 2K behind them. Instead of turning and fighting, they close their eyes and pray they make it to the next friendly ack.
I wonder if the lala was made in the USA if we would see so many complains about it
Nice try Ded ... some people dont want to hear the truth, see the truth, or live up to the truth.
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Maybe I missed something? Whats so hard about killing a La7 with any plane?
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dedalos is right again ;)
I stayed away from the lala for a long time because of the EZ mode, dweebiness, überness and what not that adorns the plane. I had my fun in the lesser planes.
However, the best way to combat the dweebiness of the MA is to up the biggest dweebness of them all, I give you... THE LALA.
It surely is a super plane
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Originally posted by iKo
Maybe I missed something? Whats so hard about killing a La7 with any plane?
I'll show you if you like.
You can come to the DA with me, take any plane you like, and I'll show you just how hard a lala is to kill.
Better yet, ask one of the skillful guys who have flown the lala alot and they will make an even stronger point than me. I've only flown the lala a few weeks but I've had more kills/time in it than any other plane I've flown. And that's cold statistics.
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Hum ok goto the DA any time and show you what I mean. From what your saying you should win 90% of the time and I am saying it will be more like 50 to 30% and ill fly what ever. I am not saying I am the greatest and kill it all the time. I am saying I dont find it that hard to kill. I dont think its a hard plane to kill at all most of the time they runn out of ammo on me and run.
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Originally posted by jodgi
I'll show you if you like.
You can come to the DA with me, take any plane you like, and I'll show you just how hard a lala is to kill.
Better yet, ask one of the skillful guys who have flown the lala alot and they will make an even stronger point than me. I've only flown the lala a few weeks but I've had more kills/time in it than any other plane I've flown. And that's cold statistics.
Any plane I like???? ;)
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You can come to the DA with me, take any plane you like, and I'll show you just how hard a lala is to kill.
The La-7 is not hard to kill ... IF it sticks around and fights.
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remind me again why is the lala unperked?
only thing "bad" about it is range.
it can climb with the best of em
it can turn with the best of em
and it can outrun all of em!
guns are good
roll rate is fine
acceleration is crazy good
its an urban myth the lala becomes a brick above 10k, it might loose its edge but it can still hang it with the best of em, and if in doubt...dive awey- simple as that.
give it a perk price of 1, just 1 perk point.
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Originally posted by jodgi
dedalos is right again ;)
I stayed away from the lala for a long time because of the EZ mode, dweebiness, überness and what not that adorns the plane. I had my fun in the lesser planes.
However, the best way to combat the dweebiness of the MA is to up the biggest dweebness of them all, I give you... THE LALA.
It surely is a super plane
lol, its a good plane. The same can be said for the SpitV, the 51, NIK, and a few others. The thing that makes the lala special is that you cannot run from it. You either kill it or it kills you. You proly have a lot of kills in them cause 190s could not get away from you and once they run out of air, they augered in front of you, :D
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Originally posted by SlapShot
You can come to the DA with me, take any plane you like, and I'll show you just how hard a lala is to kill.
The La-7 is not hard to kill ... IF it sticks around and fights.
Get away from my kills Slapy :mad: I steal yours, you don't steal mine.
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Originally posted by Nomak
If it was from anyone else I would say they were just messin' around.
I dunno..... I have read posts from AKAK in the past and not really been sure how to take the guy. Not that I have any problem with him. I figure hes just a bird of a different feather.
He comes off as real cocky to me but then again so do you Jaxxo. Just take it with a grain of salt and dont think twice.
c yas up.... Dave
Why anyone would take anything ack-ack says seriously is beyond me. Lighten up, a-a is just a twin-tailed dweeb, nothing he says has any weight anyway... :p
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Hehe. Alot of people are telling it like it is about the la7. One major drawback is learning to fly "underpowered" planes again once youve flown it for a week lol. personally ive never had much of a problem killing them..but i can tell right away who im dealing with if its in the right hands, than its.."oh crap"
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There are a few planes in hear that are rather easy, compared to others. La7, Niki,SpitV, 109g10,Typh,P51.....they must be the easiest...they are used the most. :) By easy I should say forgiving. Something with each of those planes listed provides an out in case of a fuggup, in either acceleration, speed, or manuever. Most other planes dont have their batter mixed so smooth.
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Originally posted by iKo
Maybe I missed something? Whats so hard about killing a La7 with any plane?
Hum looks like some of the good stick know what i am saying :)
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You can't gauge how hard it is to kill an LA7 by the people you meet in the MA.
Most LA7 drivers are noobs and don't know how to fly it.
In a 1 vs 1 against a vet that knows the plane you will have a hard time getting 50% success out of it let alone 70%. If you don't believe me, ask Shane to meet you in the DA, if you beat him 30% of the time I would be impressed.
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Originally posted by jaxxo
Find myself in la7 more and more alot lately..I can chase down and outfly 4 or planes per sortie (granted la7 just outmatches alot of them on the deck)....or up a "vet plane" and cruise at 10k or so hoping the the guy doesnt point nose down and run all day (good luck with that). Personaly Ive found it very difficult to even find a "good fight" lately. Fun is fun right? Im starting not to feel ashamed flying it..that scares me. Will be having a sale on my acm's shortly....I dont need them anymore.
Was good fun to see your LA7 racing away from a couple of A20s on the deck last night Jaxxo.
Couldn't help but think of this thread.
To your credit you did come back and a couple of other single engine birds joined in, but Del and I were cracking up to see that LA7 going like a rocket away from 2 A20s :)
All I got was an assist. But then again I suck so it's to be expected :)
Dan/Slack
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Originally posted by dedalos
Do you want to talk about massive dweeb threat? How about a couple of high Tyffs that run home after they lose alt advantage?
You forgot the " make 5 HO joust passes before they run home" part .
If Sir Lancelot flew AH2 - his chosen steed would be a Tiffie.
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Nice try at a cheap shot dedalos.
If I’m leaving a fight its for a reason, because I choose to fly a heavier plane and use tactics and planning in my fights,,, instead of just upping a la7s at any vulched field and spraying at anything I can in a furbal. Well what ever, maybe you don’t have the patience to participate in fights above 5k ,, too bad for you.
Because that is where I've had some of the best one on one fights.
And after I’ve shot you down twice and 3 of your buddies and you up an la7 to chase me down after I'm out of E and everything else.. obviously I’m not gonna turn and attempt to turn fight an La7 at 2k doing 140 mph (in a tyffie),,,, if you think this is being a ***** ,,, well then you just have no clue... go play in your furball.
So on that note have some of this..
You need a nice.... (http://www.miraclesalad.com/shared/STFU.jpg)
As for Ho's most people HO in all planes ... I see it more so in Niki's and Lalas than any other plane,.,,, quite sad especially when they are considerably more manoeuvrable than most other planes, and to get in some one six should be no prob.
And yes I bet if I started flying a La7 I would be landing 7 or 8 kills in no time (if it can be done in a seafire, should be no pob in La7). But I’m not really interested in doing so I like my Typhoon and RAF planes.
la7 is actually an easy kill ,,, its usually #2 or 3 for most kills of a certain plane for me,,, there is an abundance of them to kill.
Ponies are almost always #1 and that is just because that’s where I like to fight,,, above 10k,,,
So why don t you meet me up there and we can dance,,, even in your dweeb plane. (make sure that easy button is pushed all the way in)
I actually up a typhoon when field is being attacked! and if it’s really hairy then I'll take a spit.
But here is a clue,,, up from another field... seems to work better.
You’ll live longer.
So maybe one day if your brave enough to take those training wheels off, you'll try another plane.
Anyways learn the capabilities of different planes, and how to pick your fights...
I'll leave you to die while circling the ground,,, I'll be RTB to rearm and refuel.
MonkeyMeat
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Originally posted by Guppy35
Was good fun to see your LA7 racing away from a couple of A20s on the deck last night Jaxxo.
Dan/Slack
Nothing personal, but I find this hard to believe. Jax is a squadie and it is normally very difficult to get him away from fights that he where is outnumbered..but you may see this reply as biased.
A20s? who really runs from those?
Acetnt
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Originally posted by MnkyMeat
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As for Ho's most people HO in all planes ... I see it more so in Niki's and Lalas than any other plane,.,,, quite sad especially when they are considerably more manoeuvrable than most other planes, and to get in some one six should be no prob.
MonkeyMeat
True enough of every cannon-armed plane these days , and even some of the dills with 50 cal try it.
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Dweeb plane. Perk it.
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Originally posted by acetnt367th
Nothing personal, but I find this hard to believe. Jax is a squadie and it is normally very difficult to get him away from fights that he where is outnumbered..but you may see this reply as biased.
A20s? who really runs from those?
Acetnt
Not meant as a shot at him :)
But he was going away very fast. He and Delirium were talking about it on 200. As I also said he came back in but it was funny to see him on the move so fast away from the A20s.
Dan/Slack
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Really the only problem I have with LA7's is all the dweebs that want to HO.. Every freakin time I try to engage an LA7 they come straight at me guns blazin.. Gimme a break people, thats the worst move in the ENTIRE book..
Other than that LA7's are fun targets and give good perks when I kill them.. I specifically hunt them all the time..
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Originally posted by Guppy35
Not meant as a shot at him :)
But he was going away very fast. He and Delirium were talking about it on 200. As I also said he came back in but it was funny to see him on the move so fast away from the A20s.
Dan/Slack
np - I misinterpreted the comment. Thing is I normally follow him in his suicide missions only to die very quickly while he manages to stay alive and land lots of kills :-)
Acetnt
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I'm really surprised that you guys pretend that the lala is easy to kill. Like mars01 pointed out, I think you're basing it on who you've met flying the lala, and not the plane capabilities.
I'd like to see your arguments on "how easy the lala is to kill", if we could leave out the pilot factor and only discuss planes.
I don't think it makes sense to discuss plane capabilities if we're including the pilot factor. The skill span of the MA is too wide and adds a formidable "wild joker" factor.
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I actually, am just getting used to the P51d with 4 .50's. There's not much out there that can beat it...
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Originally posted by MnkyMeat
I hate La7's becuase of thier .... massive dweeb threat.
You can kill 8 cons in a fight and rtb low ammo and fuel,,, and one of those turds will always follow you and catch up.
MonkeyMeat
well, that is why when i am rtb, and want to land kills, i bring enough fuel for a fight with this dweeb:) why just the other day i was rtb in a jug, when a typhoon chased me down, and i added one more to my kills:) not that planes are dweeby, just the pilots who fly them.
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Originally posted by iKo
Maybe I missed something? Whats so hard about killing a La7 with any plane?
Beats me. I've always considered the La7 as one of the easiest planes to fight against.
ack-ack
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Depends more on how you fly than what you fly, once you get past a certain performance threshold.
For example, if I flew a F4U-1, but I kept a hard deck of 15k and 300 mph, I wouldn't worry about La-7s. Probably my biggest worry would be P-51s and P-47s.
Anyone who flies low and fights a lot will see and be killed by La-7s more than just about any plane though (if you take all 3 Spits you probably see more "Spits", but thats the only example I can think of).
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The only drawback of the Lala is the hordes of dweebs that fly it and make it an easy target.
My main ride is the Fw-190A8 so the Lala out-everythings me.
Solution: Fight only at your advantage and teamwork.
Now if I hear complaints from the Lala-drivers about the lack of good 1vs1. Step outta ya uberplane first - and welcome to reality!
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Originally posted by Kirin
Solution: Fight only at your advantage and teamwork.
Is that a solution to having fun, or staying alive?
I can think of a few snazzy ways of interpreting that "solution".
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Originally posted by Kirin
Solution: Fight only at your advantage and teamwork.
Yep, lalas are flown by dweebs
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hello:confused:
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Yea I ran from the a20's long enuff to get out of your massive spray..10 or so 50 cals blazing on me..screw that lol...Than I went vertical roped you both..killed you delirium...and was on killshot for second one when 3 more of your buds showed up to get me..including the sissy in the la5 who i was fighting to begin with when you 2 a20s showed up. So i dont want to hear it:p