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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Gunslinger on January 25, 2005, 07:11:28 PM
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Was watching the news today and saw that Howard Dean is still making a play for the chairmanship of the DNC.
I really have to ask some of the DEMOCRATS (notice I didnt say liberals because it's applicable to the thread) do you really want this guy running your party?
This is serious question not a troll.....I just do not think Howard Dean is in touch with today's America at all. It's people like him that want to move the party more left rather than centering it. Is a move to the left the right answer? Do you really think becoming more left will help you relate to the "small minded simpletons" of the red states?
To me I see it as if the GOP handed the chairmenship over to somone like Ann coulter or Rush Limbaugh......just not a smart move IMHO.....for you guys that is....me I say Bring him on!
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come on Guns, that is a troll if I ever saw one, hell we know they are stupid... but this stinks like caca del toro.:D
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Originally posted by Bodhi
come on Guns, that is a troll if I ever saw one, hell we know they are stupid... but this stinks like caca del toro.:D
seriously not a troll. I'm kinda curious what RPM and Sandman might say. They usually have pretty good insight into the mind of a surviving breathing liberal.
Seriously not a troll...I think it would make an interesting discussion. :)
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Have you actually looked into Dean, or are you making assumptions based on his run for the Presidential nomination? I'd support Dean running things for the Democrats alot sooner than I would some of the other leeches we've got hanging on. I do think the Democrats in Washington have a long way to go before they get in touch with the average person in America again, but Dean isnt that bad. At least, from the impression I've gotten, he's willing to listen. Thats a plus in my book.
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
Is a move to the left the right answer?
Was a move to the right, the right answer for the Republicans? Seems to have worked out okay.
A common theme in the critique of the Kerry campaign is that they blew it by wasting all their time worrying about getting the "undecided's" vote. Whereas the Bush's win is seen as a result of blowing off the moderates and getting their base to turn out.
It's prolly time to face the fact that the US is pretty solidly divided. Pandering to the middle makes less and less sense when that middle is rapidly facing extinction.
It would seem, anyways.
But, nay to Dean.
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Dean is the worst choice possible. He has proven to be somewhat of a loose cannon. Even his campaign manager Joe Trippy is not supporting him.
Martin Frost almost won the district he moved to after having his old one redrawn ( a republican district). I think based on that perfomance alone he is the best choice. He also has the experience, contacts, orginization and the savy. In other words, the Dems will never pick him.
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I find it hard to believe that dean represents moderate or conservative democrats. I think calling dean a liberal democrat does the term liberal a disservice.
Dean is a radical progressive socialist that represnts the extreme left in american politics.
Rejoice if he gains the chair.
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Originally posted by Yeager
I find it hard to believe that dean represents moderate or conservative democrats. I think calling dean a liberal democrat does the term liberal a disservice.
Dean is a radical progressive socialist that represnts the extreme left in american politics.
Rejoice if he gains the chair.
that's my thinking of the guy too yeager. Alot of those who associate w/ demacrats or even liberals arent the extremest hippies we so often make them....others arent fans of socialism.....to me I just don't see how his ideals can dig the DNC out of their hole.
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They should hire Bill Clinton.. and no I'm not kidding.
He is probably the finest politician to hold the office in the last 50 years.
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I'm with MT, but on the other hand, I'm a little sick of the politicians on both sides pandering to the middle. It lacks courage.
Sure, Willy Jeff is slick, but Dean at least has passion.
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
that's my thinking of the guy too yeager. Alot of those who associate w/ demacrats or even liberals arent the extremest hippies we so often make them....others arent fans of socialism.....to me I just don't see how his ideals can dig the DNC out of their hole.
Holy crap, did you actually say that?
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Originally posted by Sandman
"... I'm a little sick of the politicians on both sides pandering to the middle. It lacks courage.
Well said.
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I think MTs got a point though....slick willy doesnt really need to pander because he KNOWs how to play politics and is actually a very charismatic person.
Yes Hawker I said it....not really an amazing statement or sig material as I do lean to the right I am more of a libertarian than a republican. Most of my ideals are based loosly on the morals my parents raised me with, common sense, and my personal association with those on the left with liberal hippie flag burning communists. ;)
The next election is going to be an interesting one. The Dems are gonna have to start from scratch because ABB wont get them many votes next time.
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Slicky Willy would be great, he could give a little class back to a party that really needs it.
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ABB?
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ABB?
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I think Dean is a very smart cookie, but not what the party as a whole needs IMO. I didn't follow his campaign that closely during the early primaries because I was a Clark supporter. The DNC definitely needs a shot in the arm. Willie Jeff would be a great chair, but no way does he take it.
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ABB = Anyone But Bush
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I would have voted for slick over Bush in a second in the last election.
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Originally posted by GtoRA2
ABB?
LOL LOL LOL
eat it!
the only hope for the handsomehunkcrats is a population explosion of the AA's and the lazy retards on the gov dole... with a free ride to the polls rewarded with free beer & cigs on election day
LOL LOL LOL
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Eagler
I didnt know what AAB meant.
Anyone who thinks Bush is great is blind.
Better the Skerry? Yes, good for this country? I dont think so.
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Originally posted by Eagler
LOL LOL LOL
eat it!
the only hope for the handsomehunkcrats is a population explosion of the AA's and the lazy retards on the gov dole... with a free ride to the polls rewarded with free beer & cigs on election day
LOL LOL LOL
Lol... Nice one. :)
Funny thing is, I have a sneaking suspicion that your wife practises buddhism - am I wrong?
I just got that feeling, ya know?
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I can't say I care about any of this, but it reminded me of this this video. (http://www.campchaos.com/show.php?iID=649) What I imagined if Dean won the election.
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Heh. That was incredible.
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Originally posted by Nash
Lol... Nice one. :)
Funny thing is, I have a sneaking suspicion that your wife practises buddhism - am I wrong?
I just got that feeling, ya know?
Howdy Nash
the wife is an advanced soul, she has to be to put up with me for 26 years :)
actually I have studied the teachings of Buddha, practice yoga daily and meditate
I know it is wrong to poke fun, but I am just poking back - yingin everyone elses yang :)
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Knew it, partner.
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Originally posted by Creamo
I can't say I care about any of this, but it reminded me of this this video. (http://www.campchaos.com/show.php?iID=649) What I imagined if Dean won the election.
LMAO....that's a classic
"DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS"
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Originally posted by midnight Target
They should hire Bill Clinton.. and no I'm not kidding.
He is probably the finest politician to hold the office in the last 50 years.
hes bucking for secretary general of the UN.
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Well I think Dean would have done better had it not been for the "yeeeooooowww" remark. Oh well theres always 08. we can hope.
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Originally posted by GtoRA2
Slicky Willy would be great, he could give a little class back to a party that really needs it.
OMG!!! :eek:
How bad can the party be if Bill Clinton is considered classy?
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
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GTO.. when did you give up guns and Hot Rods and let the women tell ya how to vote?
lazs
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Dean is a class act.. Hes intelligent and also well motivated.. The contributions he receives and where they originate from should speak well enough about him..
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Hell, I am all for having Dean as the DNC national chairman. Just is going to ensure that whoever the democrats put up in November 2008 is going to win.
Have Dean all you like.
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I couldn't care less who is in charge of what.
I just want a Presidential candidate that I want to vote for. Not the one that's the lesser of 2 evils.
I can't remember the last person I actually voted FOR.
Hell I would actually vote for Hillary if I was truley convinced she would do something about illegal aliens and not tax the crap out of us.
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Watch Hillary slowly become center,slowly become center right, slowly discover religion ....:rofl
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Originally posted by midnight Target
They should hire Bill Clinton.. and no I'm not kidding.
He is probably the finest politician to hold the office in the last 50 years.
I'm sure Monica would agree with that statement.
Karaya
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Originally posted by weaselsan
Watch Hillary slowly become center,slowly become center right, slowly discover religion ....:rofl
oh, thats already started. religion happened last week. wish i knew where i saw the article. thought the exact same thing.
happens every time.
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LOL
Laz I havnt!
Still given a choice between Bush(dip**** who spends to much and wont close the borders), kerry(lying weasely scumbag) and Clinton (fantastic politician and scumbag) I would choose clinton as the lessor of the evils.
He did not do that much damage to the 2nd.
What I really want is a politician to stand up and be for closing the border, cutting government spending while at the same time cleans the government up, who wants less government intrusions into our lives and is truely for the second amendment.
I will never get that. It sucks choosing between lesser evils.
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You can tell right off the back how full of TV thought you are just by your use or terms like "right and left"
hahahhaha ...... yes... if you all think like that you really are the "'small minded simpletons' of the red states"
The Union is a corprate circus
TV is a corprate circus ... sounds like you watch too much....
left and right ...... LMAO ....What century are you 'left and right' dorks liveing in ..... the 20th?
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i personally have alot of respect for dr. dean. he is a good organizer, a decent man with non offending values. he is a congregationalist, which means that he is for self interpretation of the bible, he is a doctor which i like because it shows that his first interest is the health of an organism, he is steadfast but reasonable and he has demonstrated that he can raise both money and an issue faster than a monkey can eat a peanut.
wouldnt make a good president, but i have no doubt that he might be able to find on.
if i were the dems. id go for it.
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Manedew you are either drunk/drugged or in the 3rd grade.
It hurts just trying to understand what you just wrote.:p
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I could easily insult you for not being able to read english .. but what would be the point with moron such as you... it's plain english ... lmao.
Did you want it as a MLA formated essay?
you Corprate tool
Keep watching TV
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That was much better!
I was actually able to translate what you said this time.
[translation]
I could easily insult you for not being able to read English. But what would be the point with a moron such as you. It’s written in plain English. I’m laughing so hard my buttock is falling off.[/translation]:rofl
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Originally posted by Manedew
You can tell right off the back how full of TV thought you are just by your use or terms like "right and left"
hahahhaha ...... yes... if you all think like that you really are the "'small minded simpletons' of the red states"
The Union is a corprate circus
TV is a corprate circus ... sounds like you watch too much....
left and right ...... LMAO ....What century are you 'left and right' dorks liveing in ..... the 20th?
Big silly dummies. In Vermont there is no left or right. there's only up or down. We ain't members of the corprate curcus, we kick out K-Mart.....hahahaha we will stay in the 19th century...dorky red boys.
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Howard Dean.
YYYYEEEEEEAAAAGGGHHHHHHHH!!!
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ya, so much for that liberal media that always puts a good light on the dems right? though, since its so funny i hestitantly post this link....
howard dean meltdown mix (http://www.flashbunny.org/content/meltdown.html)
see, i can make fun of all of em. cuz i have a brain.
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Originally posted by JB88
see, i can make fun of all of em. cuz i have a brain.
Now I'm confused: I thought you were a liberal, and everyone knows liberals are all about the emotion.:p
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Originally posted by slimm50
Now I'm confused: I thought you were a liberal, and everyone knows liberals are all about the emotion.:p
i am actually more of moderate.
i am a social liberal and a fiscal conservative...both of which the republicans have historically claimed to be, but are not. i laugh every time they tout "conservatism" then go off and destroy some land or jack the deficit up to ungodly proportions. niether of these actions "conserving" anything.
i thought you were a neo-fascist bullyboy and everyone knows they lack the capacity for reason and humanity.
hope your not like the others, which ever "side" that may be.
:aok
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Originally posted by JB88
i thought you were a neo-fascist bullyboy and everyone knows they lack the capacity for reason and humanity.:aok
That's MR. Bullyboy, to you;)
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funny, i thought it was ms. nancy bullyboy
:)
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(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/64_1106776519_100-bully.jpg)
Call me Nancy, will ya?!:mad:
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is that a gun in back or an itty bitty purse?
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Originally posted by JB88
is that a gun in back or an itty bitty purse?
must be liberal... doesnt even know a gun when he see's one.
hehehe 88
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I believe that it is more telling that he can't tell the difference between a gun and a purse....
lazs
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why dont you break into MY house lasz and well see if i do. please. oh please oh please oh please. just this one small favor.
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Regardless, Dean would have my vote for the DNC Chair. He'll have to pull a miracle out of his prettythang to find and field a decent candidate for the next election, but if anyone could I'd bet its him.
The only Dem. I see who even remotely has the kind of charisma and broad appeal necessary to run for Pres. wont be ready in 4 years. Barack Obama. He is educated, well spoken, charismatic, and well liked even by his opponents. He also has that "rags to riches" background that Clinton played on so heavily. Midwestern senator, with international ties and a good sense of leadership. Give him 2 terms in the Senate to get a chance to really make a name for himself. Then watch out.