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Title: Eny?
Post by: wombatt on January 26, 2005, 01:12:17 AM
I know this subject has probably been beat to death but I'm gonna put in  two cents.

It's pretty danged lame when you can't even up a  GV for base defense.
kinda makes it pointless to capture bases when you can't defend them.

This game feature is really doing nothing but pissing alot of people off.
Just My humble opinion that life in AH2 would be much better without the ENY penalty factor.
Title: Eny?
Post by: TequilaChaser on January 26, 2005, 01:22:02 AM
LOL, yep pretty sad state of affairs when  the ENY limiter is enabled at 2:20 am EST time ( 11:20pm PST ) on a week night

some people should be in bed , getting sleep to go to work or go to school :D


but......












EVERYONE wants to be on the winning side! :rolleyes:
Title: Eny?
Post by: SFCHONDO on January 26, 2005, 01:40:49 AM
Well the ENY rearly ever effects me, for 2 reasons. One I rearly fly low Eny planes, and two, Rooks rearly have the numbers anymore...But I do agree it's not the answer to side balancing. I have to agree with Wombatt on the GV thing. OK, if they want to incorporate this that's fine by me....but I believe the GV's and the perk planes should be exempt. To me if someone wants to spend there perks they should be able too, no matter how many are on there side. (but that's just me) Getting horded by a bunch of 190's or LA7's isn't much different to me. 10 on 1 is still 10 on 1...:(
Title: Eny?
Post by: wombatt on January 26, 2005, 01:41:18 AM
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Originally posted by TequilaChaser
LOL, yep pretty sad state of affairs when  the ENY limiter is enabled at 2:20 am EST time ( 11:20pm PST ) on a week night

some people should be in bed , getting sleep to go to work or go to school :D


but......












EVERYONE wants to be on the winning side! :rolleyes:




Or some people might be retired:rolleyes:
Title: Eny?
Post by: meddog on January 26, 2005, 01:54:27 AM
My only comment is that there should be a cap on the ENY limiter.  You should alway be able to up an m3 or a goon at the very least
Title: Eny?
Post by: Jackal1 on January 26, 2005, 02:30:06 AM
Repeat----------> The ENY limiter does not piss me off.




The ENY limiter is my friend.
I take long walks with the ENY limiter.
The ENY limiter is very nice.
I salute the ENY limiter.
Title: Eny?
Post by: 2bighorn on January 26, 2005, 02:36:19 AM
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Originally posted by TequilaChaser
2:20 am EST time ( 11:20pm PST )
It's a BIG country :D


-----------------------------
Hijack over. Carry on...
Title: Eny?
Post by: Roscoroo on January 26, 2005, 03:10:28 AM
waaaaaaaaa waaaaaaaaaaa waaaaaaaa

1st knits whine about #'s , now they whine about eny.  go figure .

perhaps ya should think about country balancing then ...instead of whining .

the eny value settings arnt as near as harsh as when they were 1st turned on .
Title: Eny?
Post by: Schutt on January 26, 2005, 03:18:03 AM
#3 roscoroo whines about knights whining.

More on the topic, it should always be possible to up M3 M8 C47 and field guns.

But when the inbalance is so bad that the limiter is so high up then its possible to defend with fighters too.
Title: Eny?
Post by: TexMurphy on January 26, 2005, 03:27:13 AM
I dont have a problem with the Eny Limmiter but I agree that GVs should not be affected... at least not when we dont have a big veriaty in GVs...

Tex
Title: Eny?
Post by: Roscoroo on January 26, 2005, 03:57:06 AM
i will agree that the troop transports shouldnt be porked by the eny ..


(" #3 roscoroo whines about knights whining.")

thats my 1st one this month I'm still allowed one more  :p
Title: Eny?
Post by: killnu on January 26, 2005, 06:06:23 AM
eny limiter
Title: Eny?
Post by: Delirium on January 26, 2005, 07:11:14 AM
Agreed, I like the ENY limiter... in fact, I think it should be enabled at all times unless the numbers in the arena are at absurd levels (ie below 120 total).
Title: Eny?
Post by: streetstang on January 26, 2005, 07:17:39 AM
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Originally posted by TequilaChaser
LOL, yep pretty sad state of affairs when  the ENY limiter is enabled at 2:20 am EST time ( 11:20pm PST ) on a week night

some people should be in bed , getting sleep to go to work or go to school :D


but......












EVERYONE wants to be on the winning side! :rolleyes:



LOL! TC

I got in a GV with XtrmeJ and Wadke. I wanted my King DingalingTiger but I couldnt have it. So I got in a panzer and became a crack shot in that thing instead.

I jumped out of the hangar, Bang! One panzer dead. Turned the turret 78 degrees to the portside and Bang! Elevation 22degrees fire full effect!!! Osti dead! Five of these little vulching suckers later our base was clear:mad:
Title: Eny?
Post by: FiLtH on January 26, 2005, 08:26:30 AM
I think it works fine. Im Rook btw :P
Title: Eny?
Post by: jamusta on January 26, 2005, 08:58:13 AM
Whine
Title: Eny?
Post by: SlapShot on January 26, 2005, 08:58:50 AM
<---- ENY doesn't piss me off.

<> Ordinance Bunker
Title: Eny?
Post by: streetstang on January 26, 2005, 09:15:26 AM
Gun Emplacement
Title: Eny?
Post by: Stang on January 26, 2005, 09:59:13 AM
VH
Title: Eny?
Post by: Stang on January 26, 2005, 09:59:15 AM
VH
Title: Eny?
Post by: Karnak on January 26, 2005, 10:05:15 AM
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Originally posted by meddog
My only comment is that there should be a cap on the ENY limiter.  You should alway be able to up an m3 or a goon at the very least

There is a cap, ENY 40, which leaves the C-47 unaffected.  I'm not sure about the M3 though.
Title: Eny?
Post by: mars01 on January 26, 2005, 10:58:28 AM
<---- ENY doesn't piss me off.

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eny limiter
LOLHROTFFPMS :rofl

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<---- ENY doesn't piss me off.

When are we getting the buttons made lolh.
Title: Eny?
Post by: FuBaR on January 26, 2005, 11:01:20 AM
what does ENY mean anyways?
Title: Eny?
Post by: Jackal1 on January 26, 2005, 11:11:54 AM
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Originally posted by FuBaR
what does ENY mean anyways?


Even Nerds Yawn.
Title: Eny?
Post by: StarOfAfrica2 on January 26, 2005, 11:23:00 AM
It means

You aint gettin ENY planes!
Title: Eny?
Post by: FuBaR on January 26, 2005, 11:24:24 AM
Is there a real definition for ENY?  I know what it does, I want to know what it stands for.
Title: Eny?
Post by: SlapShot on January 26, 2005, 11:27:34 AM
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Originally posted by FuBaR
what does ENY mean anyways?


It means ... for some ... life as they know it is horribly scarred and must contemplate leaving the game (how theatrical) or fly a lesser plane.

People needs to get a grip and grow a pair.
Title: Eny?
Post by: Furious on January 26, 2005, 11:28:28 AM
The knit eny crying last night was tardtastic.  

knits had more than rooks and bish combined and whined that they had to fight  a two front war.   Mommy makes it soooo hard for them.

All I saw were pigpiles on undefended/lightly defended bases and a crap load of tears.  

It was great.
Title: Eny?
Post by: Jackal1 on January 26, 2005, 11:31:30 AM
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Originally posted by FuBaR
Is there a real definition for ENY?  I know what it does, I want to know what it stands for.

 I have allready told ya------Even Nerds Yawn.
Title: Eny?
Post by: Jackal1 on January 26, 2005, 11:35:26 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Furious
The knit eny crying last night was tardtastic.  

knits had more than rooks and bish combined and whined that they had to fight  a two front war.   Mommy makes it soooo hard for them.

All I saw were pigpiles on undefended/lightly defended bases and a crap load of tears.  

It was great.


Ya know, I didn`t see any Knits whining, but I did see a lot of whimpering on our country text, (Bish), from the L`il Generals, bashing each other for not taking bases when the enemy numbers went through the roof. Thus the reason for the suggestion of the new dot command in the other thread. :D
Title: Eny?
Post by: FuBaR on January 26, 2005, 11:39:20 AM
:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
Title: Eny?
Post by: Stang on January 26, 2005, 11:44:30 AM
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Originally posted by FuBaR
:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:



Back to school ADD child   :D
Title: Eny?
Post by: SlapShot on January 26, 2005, 11:52:28 AM
Quote
Originally posted by FuBaR
Is there a real definition for ENY?  I know what it does, I want to know what it stands for.


Each plane has an OBJ and an ENY value.

OBJ comes into play when destroying "OBJects". <> Hard Gun Emplacement

I believe ...

ENY comes into play when destroying "ENemY".

That's my take on it ...
Title: Eny?
Post by: FuBaR on January 26, 2005, 11:55:51 AM
Ty Slap, since noone else gave much of a TAKE ON IT yours seems pretty cool with me
Title: Eny?
Post by: Grits on January 26, 2005, 11:55:57 AM
Grunt training!
Title: Eny?
Post by: mars01 on January 26, 2005, 11:59:07 AM
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OBJ comes into play when destroying "OBJects". <> Hard Gun Emplacement


Cheeto that fell down between the seat cushions.
Title: Eny?
Post by: StarOfAfrica2 on January 26, 2005, 12:02:06 PM
Hehe  hehehehe hehehehehehehehe ...................

He said "hard".

Hehehe.  Huhhuhhuh.
Title: Eny?
Post by: killnu on January 26, 2005, 12:19:07 PM
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Cheeto that fell down between the seat cushions.


Soda spewn all over puter screeen



ok, this might be a bit much.:p
Title: Eny?
Post by: dedalos on January 26, 2005, 12:20:58 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Furious
The knit eny crying last night was tardtastic.  

knits had more than rooks and bish combined and whined that they had to fight  a two front war.   Mommy makes it soooo hard for them.

All I saw were pigpiles on undefended/lightly defended bases and a crap load of tears.  

It was great.


Hey watch it, I know what you were doing last night  :D
Title: Eny?
Post by: FuBaR on January 26, 2005, 12:24:29 PM
to all the rotting french fries fallen beneath my car seats!
Title: Eny?
Post by: Furball on January 26, 2005, 12:27:21 PM
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Originally posted by Furious

All I saw were pigpiles on undefended/lightly defended bases and a crap load of tears.  

It was great.


maybe they were hoping to flood the arena so they could use ENY friendly PT boats to defend their bases?
Title: Eny?
Post by: wombatt on January 26, 2005, 02:06:25 PM
Well look at it this wa them
You log on and find that you cant fly the plane that you like to fly because of the ENY crap.
I understand the perk system and that is fine but why should i not be allowed to fly NONE perked planes for my $16.00 a month?
Title: Eny?
Post by: Furious on January 26, 2005, 02:24:02 PM
Dr. Genius, you could have flown any plane you wanted.
Title: Eny?
Post by: Furious on January 26, 2005, 02:27:38 PM
Quote
Originally posted by dedalos
Hey watch it, I know what you were doing last night  :D


Ded,

The A20 festival was awsome.  I don't know how I made it out, I got caught like 3 times at the top of a rope.

I kept laughing to myself, "HELP HELP I am being jumped by a crap load of A20's".

That is the kinda spirit that makes this game fun.
Title: Eny?
Post by: SlapShot on January 26, 2005, 02:30:39 PM
Quote
Originally posted by wombatt
Well look at it this wa them
You log on and find that you cant fly the plane that you like to fly because of the ENY crap.
I understand the perk system and that is fine but why should i not be allowed to fly NONE perked planes for my $16.00 a month?


Let me further explain what my friend of few words is trying to say ...

All you need to do was switch to the side that has the least amount of pilots and flown your most favorite-est plane in the whole wide world till ya puked !!!

But ... then again, your must have the "platinum" subscription that allows you to bypass any ENY restrictions cause I only play $14.95 a month. If that is the case, then I would be pissed too.

<> Pup Tents
Title: Eny?
Post by: dedalos on January 26, 2005, 02:34:03 PM
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Originally posted by Furious
Ded,

The A20 festival was awsome.  I don't know how I made it out, I got caught like 3 times at the top of a rope.

I kept laughing to myself, "HELP HELP I am being jumped by a crap load of A20's".

That is the kinda spirit that makes this game fun.



:D yep, it was fun.  You missed the SBD runs though.  

Now someone please teach me how to shoot!!!  I used the full A20 ammo load on him and only got 2 pings.  HT more ammo please :lol.  How about unlimited for 10 perks or a Star Trek tractor beam so they don;t move.  Please??
Title: Eny?
Post by: mars01 on January 26, 2005, 02:53:55 PM
LOLH

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platinum" subscription
You have to have this to qualify for the trip to Hawaii too :D
Title: Eny?
Post by: Urchin on January 26, 2005, 03:06:03 PM
I'm completely in favor of the ENY system.. always have been.  

In fact, I don't think it is nearly harsh enough, I much preferred the way it was when it was first introduced, before the whine induced nuetering of it.
Title: Eny?
Post by: FuBaR on January 26, 2005, 03:07:05 PM
when TOD is released cough* IF it is, will ENY have any purpose?
Title: Eny?
Post by: wombatt on January 26, 2005, 03:13:14 PM
Quote
Originally posted by SlapShot
Let me further explain what my friend of few words is trying to say ...

All you need to do was switch to the side that has the least amount of pilots and flown your most favorite-est plane in the whole wide world till ya puked !!!

But ... then again, your must have the "platinum" subscription that allows you to bypass any ENY restrictions cause I only play $14.95 a month. If that is the case, then I would be pissed too.

<> Pup Tents


I live in Texas therefore I pay tax.
Also I am part of a large squad and thet do not ever change sides
and I dont feel like we should have to any ways.
I see those pathetic tards that jump ship thinking that they are going to get restet points LOL.

Sry I don't play that game and neither does my squad.
Title: Eny?
Post by: Roscoroo on January 26, 2005, 03:51:56 PM
(http://s90945482.onlinehome.us/roosite/Secret%20link%20folder/wiley2.jpg)

A few mins later after the Hoard has passed...

(http://s90945482.onlinehome.us/roosite/Secret%20link%20folder/wiley1.jpg)
Title: Eny?
Post by: SlapShot on January 26, 2005, 03:52:17 PM
Quote
Originally posted by wombatt
I live in Texas therefore I pay tax.
Also I am part of a large squad and thet do not ever change sides
and I dont feel like we should have to any ways.
I see those pathetic tards that jump ship thinking that they are going to get restet points LOL.

Sry I don't play that game and neither does my squad.


Well HT doesn't collect the $1.05 tax so basically that extra amount doesn't allow you any extra privs then ... j/k.

If that is the mantra of your squad then that is what you have to do and with that, you will then have to belly up to the bar and endure the pain. Basically ... you and your squad have brought the pain upon yourselfs.

I believe that ENY is here to stay and when it happens ... deal with it or log.

<> Convoy Truck
Title: Eny?
Post by: wombatt on January 26, 2005, 04:50:41 PM
Quote
Originally posted by SlapShot
Well HT doesn't collect the $1.05 tax so basically that extra amount doesn't allow you any extra privs then ... j/k.

If that is the mantra of your squad then that is what you have to do and with that, you will then have to belly up to the bar and endure the pain. Basically ... you and your squad have brought the pain upon yourselfs.

I believe that ENY is here to stay and when it happens ... deal with it or log.

<> Convoy Truck


And how in the heck do you know if HT collects tax or not Mr wizard?
Ofcoures he does for Texas customers.
I would imagine out of state customers are exempt.

And as far as the ENY goes I will voice my disaproval of it all I want to and you fanboys can cheerlead all you wish to as long as we all keep it cival thats our right as paying customers.
Title: Eny?
Post by: FuBaR on January 26, 2005, 05:15:55 PM
Hmmmm Ill give a cookie to anyone who tells us what we pay for



 I believe its just to enter the Arenas (so i hear)
Title: Eny?
Post by: Simaril on January 26, 2005, 06:08:59 PM
Quote
Originally posted by wombatt
I live in Texas therefore I pay tax.
Also I am part of a large squad and thet do not ever change sides
and I dont feel like we should have to any ways.
I see those pathetic tards that jump ship thinking that they are going to get restet points LOL.

Sry I don't play that game and neither does my squad.



umm, i seem to remember arguments that nits shouldnt have to switch sides to be able to get off the ground alive....

That the rook horde was unfair and greatly detracted from the game....

That numbers imbalance was such a threat that rooks should be forced to switch sides to rebalance the numbers....








The ENY balancer was not created because the numbers advantaged side wanted it or thought it was fair. It was created because the minority sides couldnt play the game effectively when horded, and its purpose was not to handicap the players as much as it was to get them to switch sides.

As grandma used to say, "what's good for the goose is good for the gander." Or, "you made your bed, now you have to sleep in it.":p
Title: Eny?
Post by: Raider179 on January 26, 2005, 06:15:09 PM
Seems simple to me. You know the rules as they stand now. You dont like it dont play.

Maybe you should try rotating your squad through the different countries and help keep the envoy problem at a minimum instead of making demands.
Title: Eny?
Post by: wombatt on January 26, 2005, 06:48:21 PM
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Originally posted by Simaril
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The ENY balancer was not created because the numbers advantaged side wanted it or thought it was fair. It was created because the minority sides couldnt play the game effectively when horded, and its purpose was not to handicap the players as much as it was to get them to switch sides.

 [/B]


News flash It aint working.
Title: Eny?
Post by: SlapShot on January 26, 2005, 07:16:47 PM
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Originally posted by wombatt
News flash It aint working.


Umm .. yes it is ... otherwise you and others wouldnt be whining about it.
Title: Eny?
Post by: FuBaR on January 26, 2005, 07:50:16 PM
:rofl :rofl :rofl   Slap!!!
Title: Eny?
Post by: Swager on January 26, 2005, 07:52:10 PM
This is something else to behold!!
Title: Eny?
Post by: wombatt on January 26, 2005, 11:26:37 PM
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Originally posted by SlapShot
Umm .. yes it is ... otherwise you and others wouldnt be whining about it.


Not whining  just stating my opinion.
You don't have to like it either.
In fact I hope it really bothers you as evident by you devotion to this thread.
Title: Eny?
Post by: SlapShot on January 27, 2005, 02:54:03 PM
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Originally posted by wombatt
Not whining  just stating my opinion.
You don't have to like it either.
In fact I hope it really bothers you as evident by you devotion to this thread.


Your opinion/whining doesn't bother me in the least. I just love to take the piss out of those who do whine (or have an opinion) about it and use a broad brush and use generalities trying to prove/state that is doesn't work.

Tried to up a Spit V (my most favorite-est plane in the whole wide world) last night and the Knights' ENY was 27.something ... oh NOOOOOOOOOOOOl ...

I guess I'll just have to up that POS called a P-47-D25 (ENY-45) ... oh wait ... its fast ... it dives like a rock ... it can stall fight ... it has 3400 rounds of .50 cal ... its tough as nails ... I was so bummed ... I was only able to bring home 5 scalps with it.

But wait ... as soon as I ended my sortie ... guess what ... the ENY was back down to 3.something ... oh boy oh joy ... I can now fly the Spit V again ... I guess the universe won't implode tonight.
Title: Eny?
Post by: wombatt on January 27, 2005, 03:14:43 PM
Quote
Originally posted by SlapShot
Your opinion/whining doesn't bother me in the least. I just love to take the piss out of those who do whine (or have an opinion) about it and use a broad brush and use generalities trying to prove/state that is doesn't work.

Tried to up a Spit V (my most favorite-est plane in the whole wide world) last night and the Knights' ENY was 27.something ... oh NOOOOOOOOOOOOl ...

I guess I'll just have to up that POS called a P-47-D25 (ENY-45) ... oh wait ... its fast ... it dives like a rock ... it can stall fight ... it has 3400 rounds of .50 cal ... its tough as nails ... I was so bummed ... I was only able to bring home 5 scalps with it.

But wait ... as soon as I ended my sortie ... guess what ... the ENY was back down to 3.something ... oh boy oh joy ... I can now fly the Spit V again ... I guess the universe won't implode tonight.



Thats really not the point. slapstick and you know it.
Ever try putting up a mission only to have it go to watermelon because at the last minute the ENY factor kicks in and wrecks your plane sets?

My Squad is a mission based squad and this plays havock on our team play.

And do you find it odd that when ENY is at say 6 the P-51 D is off limits but you can still up a Dora LOL.
Title: Eny?
Post by: SlapShot on January 27, 2005, 03:26:20 PM
Quote
Posted by wombatt
Thats really not the point. slapstick and you know it.
Ever try putting up a mission only to have it go to watermelon because at the last minute the ENY factor kicks in and wrecks your plane sets?

My Squad is a mission based squad and this plays havock on our team play.


wombutt ...

Not a problem ... if its squad based mission simply just get all the guys in the tower tell 'em to pick a ride and someone says "roll" ... we use to do this alot when I flew with the MAW ... worked like a charm. Mission planner is not really needed if your squad is put together correctly.

Quote
Posted by wombatt And do you find it odd that when ENY is at say 6 the P-51 D is off limits but you can still up a Dora LOL.


Nope ... I rarely fly the P-51 and get a terrible rash when I fly in a German plane.
Title: Eny?
Post by: Elfie on January 27, 2005, 04:15:55 PM
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Originally posted by wombatt
News flash It aint working.



News flash: HiTech thinks its working (said so in another thread), so you can state your opinion all you want and ENY still wont go away :)

I like ENY limiter, I think it does the job it is suppossed to do :)
Title: Eny?
Post by: wombatt on January 27, 2005, 05:39:50 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Elfie
News flash: HiTech thinks its working (said so in another thread), so you can state your opinion all you want and ENY still wont go away :)

I like ENY limiter, I think it does the job it is suppossed to do :)


I think we are all entitled to our opinions as long as we are respectful of one another in the process.

And at this point I guess Slappy maybe we can agree to disagree
cya in the air in my spit 1 LOL.