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Title: P38 Seminar Feb 24th - Santa Monica
Post by: Wolfala on January 27, 2005, 02:32:53 AM
"Flying the P-38 in WW ll and still alive to tell about it."
Topic: Flying the P-38 in WW ll and still alive to tell about it.
On February 24, 2005 at 7:00 PM
Location:
Santa Monica Airport (Santa Monica Aviation))
3141 Donald Douglas Loop South

Santa Monica, CA 90405

Description:
Meet Major Fredric Arnold, the Author & Illustrator of the Lockheed Lightning P-38, WW ll Test Pilot, Fighter Pilot, Safety Officer, and Test-Flew America's first Jet, Lockheed's XP-80.

To view further details and to register for this event, click

http://www.faasafety.gov/SPANS/event_details.aspx?eid=4783

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I dunno if any AH'ers are goin, but i'm signing my bellybutton up. Could be a good opportunity to meet some interesting guys.



Wolfala

Edit:  Hondo, Del and Urabus, I signed u up just incase. I can retract just incase you can't make it.
Title: P38 Seminar Feb 24th - Santa Monica
Post by: jigsaw on January 27, 2005, 04:02:49 AM
Got duplicate emails from them for some reason. If my schedule permits, I'll try to make it.
Title: P38 Seminar Feb 24th - Santa Monica
Post by: Delirium on January 27, 2005, 04:25:40 AM
No way I can make something in California on such short notice.

Thanks for letting me know tho, perhaps you can obtain what was covered at the meeting? :)
Title: P38 Seminar Feb 24th - Santa Monica
Post by: Furball on January 27, 2005, 01:03:51 PM
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Originally posted by Delirium

Thanks for letting me know tho, perhaps you can obtain what was covered at the meeting? :)


i dont know, but i suspect p-38's are on the agenda?
Title: P38 Seminar Feb 24th - Santa Monica
Post by: Golfer on January 27, 2005, 02:16:58 PM
Sounds cool, I'd love to but I'll be in Las Vegas from Feb 21-Mar 10.

GACK!
Title: P38 Seminar Feb 24th - Santa Monica
Post by: Wolfala on February 23, 2005, 07:42:04 PM
Its on tomorrow - seats are up to 200. Hope to see some AH'ers there. Will be flying in with Hylander and 90 % on Urabus.



Wolfala
Title: P38 Seminar Feb 24th - Santa Monica
Post by: GtoRA2 on February 24, 2005, 11:06:13 AM
Is this the guy who wrote door knob 5,2 or Khons war?

If it is, Airclassics had a few articals about him and how he was a fraud, not sure if it was that he never fly 38s or never flew them in combat, or that the stuff he claimed was true in Khons war was BS or what.    

I could be wrong though.
Title: P38 Seminar Feb 24th - Santa Monica
Post by: Guppy35 on February 24, 2005, 11:17:26 AM
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Originally posted by GtoRA2
Is this the guy who wrote door knob 5,2 or Khons war?

If it is, Airclassics had a few articals about him and how he was a fraud, not sure if it was that he never fly 38s or never flew them in combat, or that the stuff he claimed was true in Khons war was BS or what.    

I could be wrong though.


That's a good question.  Fredrick Arnold is the author of Doorknob 52, and I too remember the Air Classic's article that questioned it's validity.

He was in the 1st FG

Some 1st FG vets had gone to the official Squadron history and found that he didn't fly on some of the dates in question and that other pilots had been involved in incidents he claimed as his own.

Apparently the questioning of his work hasn't stopped him on the speaker circuit :)

Dan/Slack
Title: P38 Seminar Feb 24th - Santa Monica
Post by: GtoRA2 on February 24, 2005, 11:58:52 AM
Yeah I looked him up too, and it is the same guy, khons war and doornob are the same books.


It was more then one artical in airclassics as well.


Maybe Widewing or Virgil know more?
Title: P38 Seminar Feb 24th - Santa Monica
Post by: Guppy35 on February 24, 2005, 12:32:34 PM
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Originally posted by GtoRA2
Yeah I looked him up too, and it is the same guy, khons war and doornob are the same books.


It was more then one artical in airclassics as well.


Maybe Widewing or Virgil know more?



I have John Mullin's history of the 1st FG and Frederick Kohn's name shows up exactly once, when he arrived in March of 43 with a group of replacement pilots and was assigned to the 71st FS of the 1st FG.

Seems to me it was Mullins, a 1st FG pilot himself, among others who challenged the authenticity of Kohn/Arnold's work

I also see that "Kohn's war" is advertised as a fictional novel.

Dan/Slack
Title: P38 Seminar Feb 24th - Santa Monica
Post by: GtoRA2 on February 24, 2005, 12:42:56 PM
The copy I have is a "fiction"


But the foreward is from him saying it is NOT fiction and that everything in the book took place and only the names have been changed.


I was pretty upset when I heard he was a fraud, Doornob was like the first WW2 book I read when I was in 3rd grade lol.