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Title: Smoke rockets please.
Post by: Saintaw on January 27, 2005, 05:11:47 AM
I was talking about this with RUDY (AKA Airmessspending too much time in AH Tanks). It would be great if we could have smoke rockets for planes, so that planes spotting GVs could mark them.

Pink smoke perhaps?
Title: Smoke rockets please.
Post by: SFCHONDO on January 27, 2005, 01:24:29 PM
They need to remove the GV ICONS from enemy GV's so planes can not see them like they have it for GV to GV. Silly to be in a GV trying to sneak to a base under trees and an Enemy plane fly by and this BIG RED ICON is yelling at him saying "Hey NME plane I am down here, Come Bomb me"  I think the only GV Icons you should be able to see are your friendly ones. But that's just me....I think it would make the GV game play alot better.
Title: Smoke rockets please.
Post by: CMC Airboss on January 27, 2005, 01:58:46 PM
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They need to remove the GV ICONS from enemy GV's
I agree here.  However, I'd like to see the vehicles kicking up rooster tails of dust and dark black exhaust.  The GV's should also be leaving tank track imprints in the ground.  

MiG
Title: Smoke rockets please.
Post by: Speznaz on January 27, 2005, 02:05:13 PM
Remove the GV icons is a good, a very good idea
Title: Smoke rockets please.
Post by: Elfie on January 27, 2005, 04:06:57 PM
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Originally posted by CMC Airboss
I agree here.  However, I'd like to see the vehicles kicking up rooster tails of dust and dark black exhaust.  The GV's should also be leaving tank track imprints in the ground.  

MiG


If this route is taken it will make gv's stand out just like the tag they wear.
Title: Smoke rockets please.
Post by: straffo on January 27, 2005, 04:24:57 PM
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Originally posted by SFCHONDO
They need to remove the GV ICONS from enemy GV's so planes can not see them like they have it for GV to GV. Silly to be in a GV trying to sneak to a base under trees and an Enemy plane fly by and this BIG RED ICON is yelling at him saying "Hey NME plane I am down here, Come Bomb me"  I think the only GV Icons you should be able to see are your friendly ones. But that's just me....I think it would make the GV game play alot better.


Poor little GV dweeb who don't want an icon over their head when they are hiding under undestructable foliage

    
CMC Airboss got a nice proposition ,I'm ok no icon for GV but also no icon for planes in this condition.
Title: Smoke rockets please.
Post by: SlapShot on January 27, 2005, 04:29:37 PM
I have found that people augering right next to the GV and sending up a fireball is the best way to mark the GV ... much more macho than smoke rockets.
Title: Smoke rockets please.
Post by: SFCHONDO on January 27, 2005, 08:01:51 PM
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Originally posted by straffo
Poor little GV dweeb who don't want an icon over their head when they are hiding under undestructable foliage

    
CMC Airboss got a nice proposition ,I'm ok no icon for GV but also no icon for planes in this condition.


Here we go with Lame replies about someone he knows nothing about.....
Title: Smoke rockets please.
Post by: Howitzer on January 27, 2005, 08:05:02 PM
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Originally posted by SFCHONDO
Here we go with Lame replies about someone he knows nothing about.....


Hey Hondo.. everyone has to be something.. he just chooses to be belligerent and lame  :D
Title: Smoke rockets please.
Post by: straffo on January 28, 2005, 01:28:30 AM
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Originally posted by SFCHONDO
Here we go with Lame replies about someone he knows nothing about.....


Sorry but for me anything that crawl is a low form of life.
Title: Smoke rockets please.
Post by: SFCHONDO on January 28, 2005, 01:56:05 AM
What ever dude........I don't have time for lame replies sorry. Post something pertaining to the topic. No need to throw around lame insults to someone you don't know. I just posted an idea on what I would like in regards to Icons on GV's. Either agree, disagree, post your ideas or if you have no ideas or suggestions then just move along. No need in being an arse.
Title: Smoke rockets please.
Post by: TBolt A-10 on January 28, 2005, 01:56:07 AM
I think HT should draw bigger targets on those frickin' GV's.  A big red & blue bull's eye would be nice.  
Title: Smoke rockets please.
Post by: Flayed1 on January 28, 2005, 02:07:22 AM
Pyro posted a while ago that Suds is working on dust trails for GV's and blown off turrets, water spray for pt's and such .
so if they implement these changes with a big cloud of dust behind GV's as long as they are visible from planes I see no reason to make the gv icons so easy to see from planes.
Title: Smoke rockets please.
Post by: straffo on January 28, 2005, 02:54:30 AM
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Originally posted by SFCHONDO
What ever dude........I don't have time for lame replies sorry. Post something pertaining to the topic. No need to throw around lame insults to someone you don't know. I just posted an idea on what I would like in regards to Icons on GV's. Either agree, disagree, post your ideas or if you have no ideas or suggestions then just move along. No need in being an arse.


I love being an arse :D plus I forgot the smiley at the end of my previous post I was not trying to be offenseve but more smartarse :)

Joke aside , actually the Air to ground warfare in the MA don't work like IRL.

From a jabo perspective ,we Jabo have no spoter on ground ,we have no other way than the Icon to detect the target.

All the GV can survive a bomb droped at  5 yard ,the blast as no effect on the virtual GV crew ... no shock effect no panic I've yet to see a crew bail a GV in AH :p

And when the GV is under a tree well ...
 
You want to meake the GV more difficult to spot and the outcome will be  previsible ... the GV will spawn camping the Air bases and add planes kills to their score
And as far as I know the GV where never used to make CAP over enemy airfields.

When the air combat in AH as some relation to the real use of airplane the GV battle ressemble nothing actually.
At least it's don't compare to Panzer Elite
I'm all for a tank simulation but sorry I find that actually it's a place where AH fall short.

Sorry for teh spelling but I've to go  now and will correct it later.
Title: Smoke rockets please.
Post by: storch on January 28, 2005, 07:37:20 AM
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Originally posted by straffo
Sorry but for me anything that crawl is a low form of life.


really?  I thought you would call them...........lunch.   :D
Title: Smoke rockets please.
Post by: SFCHONDO on January 28, 2005, 09:15:31 AM
Straffo, Those are some valid points. We all know the GV modeling and such in AH is far from perfection. Thats why I don't do alot of GV stuff. Being that this is a Flying game is stands to reason they wouldn't put as much into the GV side of the game. I'm glad they have them though, gives me something to do when I am eating or talking on the phone. :)
Title: Re: Smoke rockets please.
Post by: Jackal1 on January 28, 2005, 09:22:08 AM
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Originally posted by Saintaw
I was talking about this with RUDY (AKA Airmessspending too much time in AH Tanks). It would be great if we could have smoke rockets for planes, so that planes spotting GVs could mark them.

Pink smoke perhaps?




http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=141244 (http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=141244)
Title: Smoke rockets please.
Post by: eagl on January 28, 2005, 11:57:12 AM
A big problem with smoke rockets is persistency...  What impact on the server would you see if a flight of 20 guys launched 10 smokers at a big field all at once?  Chug the server?  Kill framerates immediately?

My solution would be to either allow a max smoke rocket loadout of 2, or have only the most recent 2 smoke rockets be visible.  That way you could load 10 smoke rockets, but only the last 2 you fired would be visible to other players.  That would keep the framerate hit down and also reduce the server load trying to keep persistent objects consistent on everyone's FE.

Or not.
Title: Smoke rockets please.
Post by: Heretik on January 28, 2005, 02:47:06 PM
Hondo's making friends again I see.
Title: Smoke rockets please.
Post by: straffo on January 29, 2005, 03:25:15 AM
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Originally posted by Heretik
Hondo's making friends again I see.

Hell no ... I was harsh :)
Title: Smoke rockets please.
Post by: SunKing on January 29, 2005, 02:29:18 PM
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Originally posted by SFCHONDO
They need to remove the GV ICONS from enemy GV's so planes can not see them like they have it for GV to GV. Silly to be in a GV trying to sneak to a base under trees and an Enemy plane fly by and this BIG RED ICON is yelling at him saying "Hey NME plane I am down here, Come Bomb me"  I think the only GV Icons you should be able to see are your friendly ones. But that's just me....I think it would make the GV game play alot better.


It doesn't matter, hit shift-F4 and GV dots pop up like pimples on the earth. You can't miss them. I'm lined up on a dot before the enemy text appears anyway. No enemy text would just make it tougher to avoid the osti's you think are easykill pz's.