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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: WhiteHawk on January 28, 2005, 07:21:04 AM
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Finally, the main objective has been acheived in the Iraq war. After only 1200 or so dead US soldiers and a minimun number of civilian casualties, it has been announced, secretly, that a permanent US base will have to be established in Iraq.
The official story will be, of course to spread democracy and freedom. Most of the public will accept this and as long as the main stream media is filtered properly, those who see this as the first objective in the New American Century campaign can be painted as paranoid conspiracy kooks.
We must thank the insurgents efforts for giving us the excuse or justifying the reasons for establishing this base, as the american public would never accept the cost, both financial and in human lives. So lets give a great big Hoorahhh! to Bill Clinton, GW and Dick for thier fantastic strategical success in this first battle of WWIII!
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How does one announce something secretly? Or maybe it's secretly announced.... :confused:
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He "whispers" in the microphone! Duh!!! ;)
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
How does one announce something secretly? Or maybe it's secretly announced.... :confused:
He says' Boy, these pesky inusrgents sure are tuff to beat. We may not be out of here for a long long time!.'
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The plan was never to leave as soon as the election was over. The plan was to leave when things stabilized.
This could take years. And it was told to us from the beginning.
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Originally posted by WhiteHawk
He says' Boy, these pesky inusrgents sure are tuff to beat. We may not be out of here for a long long time!.'
But apparently you annouce it when no one is there to listen. :confused: Sort of like the old tree falls in the woods thing...
I think your father screwed a plant and raised a blooming idiot.;)
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Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning.
- Churchill
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Originally posted by Mighty1
The plan was never to leave as soon as the election was over. The plan was to leave when things stabilized.
This could take years. And it was told to us from the beginning.
Geez, put on yer tin foil hat dude. The mind beams have fried to the stem.
Lets see if I get this correct, 'We are going in to Iraq to establish a democratic election and we will leave when things stabilize, this could take years!' 'How about it, congress, Can we have $200,000,000,000.00 dollars for this?'
I seem to remember some WMD crap and a feeble attempt to hang the 911 thing on saddam.
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
But apparently you annouce it when no one is there to listen. :confused: Sort of like the old tree falls in the woods thing...
I think your father screwed a plant and raised a blooming idiot.;)
Comming from you, I take this as a compliment. :)
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'We are going in to Iraq to establish a democratic election and we will leave when things stabilize, this could take years!' 'How about it, congress, Can we have $200,000,000,000.00 dollars for this?'
Here it is in congresseze...
H. J. RES. 114
Whereas the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 (Public Law 105-338) expressed the sense of Congress that it should be the policy of the United States to support efforts to remove from power the current Iraqi regime and promote the emergence of a democratic government to replace that regime;
Whereas on September 12, 2002, President Bush committed the United States to `work with the United Nations Security Council to meet our common challenge' posed by Iraq and to `work for the necessary resolutions,' while also making clear that `the Security Council resolutions will be enforced, and the just demands of peace and security will be met, or action will be unavoidable';
H. J. RES. 114
SEC. 3. AUTHORIZATION FOR USE OF UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES.
(a) AUTHORIZATION- The President is authorized to use the Armed Forces of the United States as he determines to be necessary and appropriate in order to--
(1) defend the national security of the United States against the continuing threat posed by Iraq; and
(2) enforce all relevant United Nations Security Council resolutions regarding Iraq.
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
Here it is in congresseze...
McG...this won't help. He (WhiteHawk) knows what he thinks he knows, and the truth won't sway him from his course.
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If it secures us a stable Oil supply , I'm for it.
WhiteHawk, If you think that the U.S. is the only country that is out for themselves, you' need to fix your own tin hat.
The U.S. is sitting on or near the largest oil supply in the world, by taking out a ruthless dictator, and spending BILLIONS to do it, and you start crying that we HAVE TO GIVE IT BACK?
I say Bull****....... make the base, grease the U.N. a little and they'll back us all the way..... :aok
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Originally posted by WhiteHawk
Lets see if I get this correct, 'We are going in to Iraq to establish a democratic election and we will leave when things stabilize, this could take years!' 'How about it, congress, Can we have $200,000,000,000.00 dollars for this?
I hate to tell you but yeah that's pretty much how it was.
I'm guessing you never actually listened to any of GWB speachs or you would already know this.
Tin foil hat?! me thinks you don't really know what that means.
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Originally posted by mosgood
If it secures us a stable Oil supply , I'm for it.
WhiteHawk, If you think that the U.S. is the only country that is out for themselves, you' need to fix your own tin hat.
The U.S. is sitting on or near the largest oil supply in the world, by taking out a ruthless dictator, and spending BILLIONS to do it, and you start crying that we HAVE TO GIVE IT BACK?
I say Bull****....... make the base, grease the U.N. a little and they'll back us all the way..... :aok
Well, there ya have it! Did I ever say i was against this sort of thing? Did I ever say that countries can hunker down and hope things work out for themselves?
I for one am for the afghani pipeline that will bring 6 trillion dollars worth of oil on the world market.
I for one am for the capture of muslim oil and making it christian oil,
I realize, as much as anybody, the importance of securing energy for the operation of our country, even if that means military activiity.
I realized, years ago, that the ultimate end to our country would be WMD's smuggled into our cities via shipping, or more probably, drug smuggling routes established by N korean intel agents.
The aggressive campaing by the US, which started immedeiatly after the cold war, is necessary for the survival of our country and the worlds economic growth and ultimately, world peace.
The 911 thing was the 'pearl harbor' event to spark this war. All i am saying here is that this is wwIII and its important that some of us can see it as its happening.
read my opening post again and tell me where I went wrong? The first objective is complete! Whats next? Iran? N Korea? Will Russia nad China sit by and watch from the sidelines? How about pakistan? They are certain to have WMD's and Al Queada maybe even Bin laden himself?
Exciting stuff Hunh Mosgood:D .
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Originally posted by Mighty1
I hate to tell you but yeah that's pretty much how it was.
I'm guessing you never actually listened to any of GWB speachs or you would already know this.
Tin foil hat?! me thinks you don't really know what that means.
Sorry mighty1, I was listening to the liberal media again and they said it was WMD's. Hey, in fact i did listen to GWB's speaches and he said WMD's too???
Yea, the tin foil hat protects the moist part of the brain from the extremely low frequency beams that are constantly sweeping through our atmosphere. The beams, probably are just calming beams, but I dont want to take any chances. They may very well be 'keep em stupid' beams. You can see them on occasion, sweeping through the clouds from east to west from a satellite slideshow.
One comes from greenland(?) One from the N pole and one from alaska.
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You are talking about 2 different things.
1) Bush DID say we were there for the long haul(which could take many years)
2) Bush did say he thought they had WMD(as did most people)
Are we going to put a base in Iraq? I don't know I haven't heard anything on it.
Did Iraq have WMD? Yes but who really knows when they detroyed/moved them?
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Iraq is our first step to a permanent base on the moon.
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Originally posted by WhiteHawk
Well, there ya have it! Did I ever say i was against this sort of thing? Did I ever say that countries can hunker down and hope things work out for themselves?
I for one am for the afghani pipeline that will bring 6 trillion dollars worth of oil on the world market.
I for one am for the capture of muslim oil and making it christian oil,
I realize, as much as anybody, the importance of securing energy for the operation of our country, even if that means military activiity.
I realized, years ago, that the ultimate end to our country would be WMD's smuggled into our cities via shipping, or more probably, drug smuggling routes established by N korean intel agents.
The aggressive campaing by the US, which started immedeiatly after the cold war, is necessary for the survival of our country and the worlds economic growth and ultimately, world peace.
The 911 thing was the 'pearl harbor' event to spark this war. All i am saying here is that this is wwIII and its important that some of us can see it as its happening.
read my opening post again and tell me where I went wrong? The first objective is complete! Whats next? Iran? N Korea? Will Russia nad China sit by and watch from the sidelines? How about pakistan? They are certain to have WMD's and Al Queada maybe even Bin laden himself?
Exciting stuff Hunh Mosgood:D .
I reread your post. The first time I read it, I interpreted it in a different tone than it was ment...... (S)
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Originally posted by Mighty1
You are talking about 2 different things.
1) Bush DID say we were there for the long haul(which could take many years)
2) Bush did say he thought they had WMD(as did most people)
Are we going to put a base in Iraq? I don't know I haven't heard anything on it.
Did Iraq have WMD? Yes but who really knows when they detroyed/moved them?
Yes, all that is true except your claim of the timeline.
Bush didnt say anything about long haul until we were hopelessly involved in iraq militarily. Before the war we were to be hailed as liberating heroes. I challenge you to source a quote from GWB that says we would be in iraq for many years, prior to the war.
Of course hussein had WMD's. The US supplied him with them. The claim was WMD's, ability to manufacture and an immediate threat to the US.
And I can make the claim and not be proven wrong. Bush is changing his tune to fit the situation as the situation unfolds.
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10Bears? Why the name change?
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I'm still trying to figure out....what the issue is with WMD?
In a matter of months 3 WMD were found and secured from ever inflicting "Mass Destruction" to people ever again.
Do people just have selective memory at will?
Hundreds of thounds of people were uncovered in mass graves and the WMD that caused their death is now sitting in a prison cell looking at family pictures of his two dead perverted sons.
The UN agreed there were WMD....they just didn't have the balls to go look for them let alone get em.
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Whitehawks Cafe mocca late has runith dry...Quick get him another before he blows...
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Originally posted by Toad
10Bears? Why the name change?
hes not 10bears..
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Originally posted by koda76
I'm still trying to figure out....what the issue is with WMD?
In a matter of months 3 WMD were found and secured from ever inflicting "Mass Destruction" to people ever again.
Do people just have selective memory at will?
Hundreds of thounds of people were uncovered in mass graves and the WMD that caused their death is now sitting in a prison cell looking at family pictures of his two dead perverted sons.
The UN agreed there were WMD....they just didn't have the balls to go look for them let alone get em.
I guess my memory is slipping.. Can you sorce the info on 'hundreds of thosands' of people found dead in mass graves?
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WhiteHawk's Signature
The WTC was bombed by 19 Arab Hijackers, Al-Queada agents. We know that they were AQ because of an anonomous american hero who, on a hunch, braved the choking cauldron just hours after the attacks and found the only piece of either aircraft or hijacker not to be incinerated instantly... a plastic passport, thus confirming that AQ agents were on the planes. Using that crucial evidence, the names of all 19 hijackers were assembled within 48 hours. Given that fact that the hijackers used false ID's, this is an incredible feat by our marvelous Intel community.
WhiteHawk, before spewing political rhetoric on what is, should be, could be, etc. Please run your Signature through a spelling checker, or blow the dust off of your dictionary.
Karaya
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Nope you are dead wrong on the timeline.
From the very beginning it was always for the long haul.
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Originally posted by TheDudeDVant
I guess my memory is slipping.. Can you sorce the info on 'hundreds of thosands' of people found dead in mass graves?
http://www.shianews.com/hi/articles/politics/0000374.php
here's one of many links you will find if you google"Iraq mass graves"
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Are you the guy who thinks the CIA helped take down the towers on 911?
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LOL his sig says it all
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Actually, our 2 new secret bases are in Poland and elsewhere in Africa. Get your shxt straight before posting. We already have semi-permanent presence within combat radius in that area, so we sure as fuxk don't need yet another base there.
So those of you without any imagination don't get the wrong idea...
:) :D :lol :rofl :aok :p ;) :) :) :)
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Originally posted by GtoRA2
Are you the guy who thinks the CIA helped take down the towers on 911?
Yep GTO, he's the one.
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Originally posted by eagl
Actually, our 2 new secret bases are in Poland and elsewhere in Africa. Get your shxt straight before posting. We already have semi-permanent presence within combat radius in that area, so we sure as fuxk don't need yet another base there.
So those of you without any imagination don't get the wrong idea...
:) :D :lol :rofl :aok :p ;) :) :) :)
Is this the secret base American Airlines flight 77 was flown to on 9-11 while cruise missles rained down on the Pentagon. Do tell man, do tell.
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Grun
I though his oh so credible web page said aliens?
ALIENS MAN!
Not nice ones like ET though.
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Grun, it's not that one, it's the next one down the list on the pentagon's budget. Look for the entry:
"Toilet seats: $69,000,000"
You didn't really think toilet seats REALLY cost that much did you? Just like only an idiot would call a really high flying spy plane "aurora", only an idiot would call a secret base "secret base".
Nothing to see here, carry on, remember to file your taxes on the way out please.
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Originally posted by Flit
http://www.shianews.com/hi/articles/politics/0000374.php
here's one of many links you will find if you google"Iraq mass graves"
Fair nuff.. wow 52 sites over 35 years.. I spose the numbers can add up..
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Just one question. What happens if the new democraticly elected government calls for the US to pull out immediately? Several of the candidates have said they will do just that.
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I hope they do we shouldn't ever have started the whole mess! And now that idiot bush and his far right cronies want another war with Iran!
Ever read 1984? The mythical big brother govt in that kept a perpetual war going just to keep the population duped.
This is turning out to be a very depressing century!
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Official Iraqi documents recovered after the fall of Saddam’s regime suggest a staggering 5 million executions were made during Ba’ath era alone. Over 10 million were also imprisoned. They were all Shi’ite save a small percentage of Kurds. It is also very interesting to note that after the 1991 Shi’ite uprising over 300,000 were killed or captured never to be seen again, but there were no injured. This is very odd considering the logical fact that wars result in many more injuries than deaths. Under Saddam, however, people were either killed instantly or killed in mass executions soon after. With slogans such as “After today no more Shi’ites” the army had advanced into the city of Karbala. The killed were killed, the captured were killed, and the injured were killed as well. No one was spared.
mindboggling :(
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I also sat in front of the TV watching the "Nightly News" as they showed the backhoes un-covering some of the mass graves.
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Originally posted by GtoRA2
Grun
I though his oh so credible web page said aliens?
ALIENS MAN!
Not nice ones like ET though.
DONT LAUGH AT THE TRUTH MAN! THINK FOR YOURSELF!!!
But yes whitehawk or one of his conspiracy kook buddies like kappa did post links to websites which claimed that flight 77 was taken by aliens into another dimensional realm and that the pentagon was hit by either a missle or a small radio controled drone private jet plane or some such nonsense. They are truly special, they should get together and have special children.
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I also would point out 90% of the ones found in 3 graves were buried alive.
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Originally posted by GtoRA2
Are you the guy who thinks the CIA helped take down the towers on 911?
I dunno bout him... And I dunno bout the CIA... But I do know when something doesn't look exactly right and I understandably ask many questions when not all items tend to add up.. Do you??
Two unarmed planes destroyed seven buildings all which happen to be WTC buildings.. Took them all to the ground.. Surrounding buildings in extremely close quarters received only slight damage.. Coincidence or a highly motivated perfectly planned op by external interest..
This thread is not the location to discuss such things, again.. Start a new one if you feel the need to discuss rationally.. 8)
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Originally posted by TheDudeDVant
I dunno bout him... And I dunno bout the CIA... But I do know when something doesn't look exactly right and I understandably ask many questions when not all items tend to add up.. Do you??
Two unarmed planes destroyed seven buildings all which happen to be WTC buildings.. Took them all to the ground.. Surrounding buildings in extremely close quarters received only slight damage.. Coincidence or a highly motivated perfectly planned op by external interest..
This thread is not the location to discuss such things, again.. Start a new one if you feel the need to discuss rationally.. 8)
Oh he wants to discuss this "rationally" now...
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
So it was a plot to destroy ONLY the wtc builidings, I get it. Good one you old nutter!!!!
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Oh he wants to discuss this "rationally" now...
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
So it was a plot to destroy ONLY the wtc builidings, I get it. Good one you old nutter!!!!
hey grun.. why dont you just die or something. Must you be a constant *******? Why dont you just stop this now.. I didnt see myself pulling your leash..
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How bout you stop posting your silly 911 conspiracy jokes and I will stop laughing at them.
MMMMkay?
Because you sir are simply too funny to resist, a true comedic genious! Do you tour?
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
How bout you stop posting your silly 911 conspiracy jokes and I will stop laughing at them.
MMMMkay?
Because you sir are simply too funny to resist, a true comedic genious! Do you tour?
die..
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Thats nice.
I hope you didnt get the impression that I was laughing at you, no kappa, I am laughing with you - laughing at your funny jokes.
Have a great day!
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AWSOME!!!
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I always think the Thedudevant is Frogman for some reason , he isnt, and thats insulting even frogman.
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I know THeDude is the AH player formerly known as kappa.
Kinda like this:
(http://www.musicexp.com/prince/symbol.jpg)
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Must be my avitar..
Thats actually a slight modified treefrog which is my name in delta force games..
Still kappa in MA though.. 8)
ah gto.. and thanks guy.. good of you to be so kind.. :rolleyes:
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Did you ever have a kappa bbs account?
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The people being elected this round aren't going to decide anything except the constitution and rules that will determine what the final form of the government will be, and how the elections will proceed. Unless things go very wrong, they will have little regulatory power right away. Now it's possible they'll just write a constitution that keeps themselves in power, but I think there are going to be enough of them that it'll be difficult for them to pull a fast one like that.
The NEXT elections though... Those guys will have direct power, legitimized by the new constitution. If they want us to leave, or if the constitutional committee writes the rules to guarantee a governing system that will definatly kick us out, then so be it. If they don't want free education, medical, electrical, and other service infrastructure, and they VOTE to turn away another year or two of such assistance, then they deserve to live in the dark. I don't think they'll just give all that away though. Sure they'll want us out, some sooner than others, but even the most power hungry or those most offended by our presence can't ignore the potential benefits of letting us finish some rebuilding efforts before giving us the boot.
And that's cool with me. With Iran, India, and Pakistan playing with nukes, and Saudi Arabia having an internal crisis of it's own, an Iraq with a strong infrastructure but almost no offensive military power will be a source of stability in the region. That's good for everyone but the religious nutjob whackos.
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he must have I have a kappa on ignore lol
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Originally posted by GtoRA2
he must have I have a kappa on ignore lol
well, why stop now..
keep the badmen away mommy! I fear what I might read!! lol what a joke
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Originally posted by TheDudeDVant
well, why stop now..
keep the badmen away mommy! I fear what I might read!! lol what a joke
Werd! I just dont get the folks whoi dont appreciate good comedy.
GTO no way in hell am I'm going drinking with you EVAR!