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Title: Another Sign of The Apocalypse
Post by: rpm on February 02, 2005, 10:58:57 PM
linkenstein (http://www.suntimes.com/output/entertainment/cst-ftr-hag31.html)
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Bob Dylan and Merle Haggard, America's most spiritual descendants of Woody Guthrie, are hooking up for a U.S. tour.

Dylan and his band and Haggard and his band, the Strangers, will kick off the tour March 7 in Seattle. Dylan is following up last summer's critically acclaimed tour of minor league baseball parks with Willie Nelson.

Me thinks they will smoke marijuana in Muskogee.
Title: Another Sign of The Apocalypse
Post by: patrone on February 02, 2005, 11:26:15 PM
Thanks for the Tip, RPM.
Wonder if they are just gonna keep it in US or if they will be moving over the pond as well?

Willie Nelson Didnt do very good during his last tour here (He was good, but didŽnt sell enough tickets).

Eh, I am gonna try to get Van the man and Bob for this summer, that would be neat, if Haggard wouldŽnt make it.

But no drugs, Van laid that off and joined AA.
Title: Another Sign of The Apocalypse
Post by: lazs2 on February 03, 2005, 08:34:41 AM
this is what happens to washed up entertainers who can't come to grips with their own demise.

Weeping willie will be playing at the fair that is my little hick town this may.   pretty much admitting that he is bottom of the barrel.

lazs
Title: Another Sign of The Apocalypse
Post by: Jackal1 on February 03, 2005, 08:49:27 AM
Ya know Laz, that`s where you are wrong.
 Willie has always played at small gatherings. He has played many, many places for free just to be entertaining.
  He has also played at more benefits than most entertainers put together.

  He has always done this and will clearly state that one of his favorite things to do is play in small town, small bars.
  He has a habit of showing up at places like Lukenbach and Carl`s Corner and starting a jam session just because that`s what he likes to do.
Title: Another Sign of The Apocalypse
Post by: lazs2 on February 03, 2005, 08:58:50 AM
no... weeping willie the washed up declined playing here last time over money issues.   He isn't playing here because it is old home week.   He is playing at a fair that is known to everyone as the bottom of the barrel... more of a carnival than a fair really.   Run down facility etc.

lazs
Title: Another Sign of The Apocalypse
Post by: Jackal1 on February 03, 2005, 09:13:02 AM
LOL Carl`s Corner and Lukenbach aint exactly Carnegie Hall. You would just have to understand Willie.
 I wish I had his money problems. :D
Title: Another Sign of The Apocalypse
Post by: lazs2 on February 03, 2005, 02:24:58 PM
well... I don't see him singing any tunes about "Dixon California, Waylon and Willie and the boys".

I don't know about his money really..  I do know that he was heavily indebt to the IRS at one time and I do know that I can't stand listening to the guy talk about himself or sing 3/4 of his crybaby crap.

lazs
Title: Another Sign of The Apocalypse
Post by: slimm50 on February 03, 2005, 02:33:17 PM
If a coyote could sing it'd sound like willie nelson. but I like the guy just the same.
Title: Another Sign of The Apocalypse
Post by: Jackal1 on February 03, 2005, 02:50:12 PM
Yep, agreed . I`ve always been  Rock n Roll , but the progressive Outlaw music  winds my clock also. Most of what is considered country nowadays is a far cry from it. Willie, Waylon and others put some fun and meaning back into it.
  The Red Headed Stranger collection is awesome. Pancho And Lefty is great still today.
  It`s not how they sing, but what they sing.
:D  Yea, you could say Willie was in debt to the IRS. He never was good with , nor did he have, good management as far as business wise goes.
 Hell, they even took the golf course.
What did he have to say about this? He said to hell with it. It wasn`t about the money to begin with. He also said that they would just write a few songs and hit the road and buy it all back.
  If I remember correctly within eight months he had cleared over 2 mil.
  It certainly don`t hurt to be from Texas to be a Willie fan. Even if you don`t like his music, ya gotta love the guy. He`s a living legend.
Title: Another Sign of The Apocalypse
Post by: patrone on February 03, 2005, 04:44:51 PM
Many of the Artists that has been going on touring for years, choose to performe in smaller venues, often seated.
They want the audience to sit still and listen to what they have to say, not to jump and scream.

These guy all more or less suffer from hearing lost and the volume can be kept down on stage in a smaller place with a calm audience.

The only bad thing is that many Promotors donŽt want to take the risks with smaller venues, higher ticketprices.
Exceptions to this is the "nonindependent" Artists that have been bought by Clear Channel.

Dont complain to much about Willie Nelson: If I remember correctly US Goverment more or less Own him and his doings/songs/recordings.
Title: Another Sign of The Apocalypse
Post by: Jackal1 on February 03, 2005, 08:02:45 PM
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Originally posted by patrone

Dont complain to much about Willie Nelson: If I remember correctly US Goverment more or less Own him and his doings/songs/recordings.


  Willie`s debt was paid long ago.
Title: Another Sign of The Apocalypse
Post by: Zulu7 on February 03, 2005, 08:29:28 PM
Lazs !!!!

Man you are a redneck reactionary  (and I wont say the rest as it would be too rude!). Get a life, open your mind, stop this mindless slavish devotion to guns and the way over to the right view of life. Frankly it comes accross as a bit dull I've heard it so many times.

:p
Title: Another Sign of The Apocalypse
Post by: TweetyBird on February 03, 2005, 08:34:46 PM
Why do I get the feeling Laz threw his underware on stage and Willy threw it back? Juuuuuuuuuusssttttttttt kidding.

Some musicians/writers genuinely love to perform, money aside, hence they never wash up until they die. I really doubt Mick is playing to pay the rent.
Title: Another Sign of The Apocalypse
Post by: patrone on February 03, 2005, 09:52:22 PM
No, Mick is not playing to pay his rent, heŽs playing to get chicks.
And to promote his own Music.
If they never toured, noone would buy their records, cause the newspapers wouldŽnt be writting about them nor Mick.

Eventully they would loose their Record contract and then just slowly die..............
One more trip of nostalgica and then hardly the local Pub would hire them for more then maybe free drinks.
Title: Another Sign of The Apocalypse
Post by: TweetyBird on February 03, 2005, 09:54:58 PM
>>Eventully they would loose their Record contract and then just slowly die......<<

Yea, thats about 2 weeks away :rolleyes:
Title: Another Sign of The Apocalypse
Post by: patrone on February 03, 2005, 09:57:52 PM
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Originally posted by TweetyBird
>>Eventully they would loose their Record contract and then just slowly die......<<

Yea, thats about 2 weeks away :rolleyes:



Nah, maybe 3-4 years, but when it starts to go down hill, it surelly goes fast, I tell you.
Anyway, by that time, they are ready for the OlŽ folks home musical stage.
Title: Another Sign of The Apocalypse
Post by: TweetyBird on February 03, 2005, 10:00:22 PM
Yea, right after France demolishes the Louvre because attendance is down :D
Title: Another Sign of The Apocalypse
Post by: patrone on February 03, 2005, 10:05:14 PM
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Originally posted by TweetyBird
Yea, right after France demolishes the Louvre because attendance is down :D



Agreed, They might be a very special case in history of music, but I can bring a lot of other samples, IŽve seen the most and worked with a lot.
Title: Another Sign of The Apocalypse
Post by: lazs2 on February 04, 2005, 10:27:59 AM
zulu..have no idea what you are talking about but your slavish devotion and defense of all things left wing and effeminate is getting boring.

jakal... my tastes in music are probly not so far off of yours.   I like outlaw country the best... I give credit to redheaded stranger and admiot that willie mad som great stuff... pancho and lefty is a favorite.  

It's just that I really really can't stand some of the guys "ballads".... endless weeping tomes.   I think that the statement he made in an interview once summed up the man... When asked who he liked to listen to for enjoyment he said "me".

That would explain his endless and painful to listen to ballads.

lazs
Title: Another Sign of The Apocalypse
Post by: rpm on February 04, 2005, 11:24:24 AM
Willie is a song stylist. Stardust is one of my favorite albums.
Title: Another Sign of The Apocalypse
Post by: lazs2 on February 04, 2005, 11:26:48 AM
well.... whatever a "song stylist" is.... I don't care for it.   I like some of his earlier stuff when he wasn't weeping out the tune tho.

lazs