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Title: Lobster grah.
Post by: GtoRA2 on February 04, 2005, 03:05:24 PM
The site.  (http://www.livelob.com/lobstergram/shop)


You guys ever try them? Great service and boy are the lobsters good.


They will send you live ones or fresh frozen tails.


The clam chowder is great as well.
Title: Lobster grah.
Post by: AKS\/\/ulfe on February 04, 2005, 03:17:02 PM
That site is making me hungy for a good crab cake sammich.

I hate you GTO.
-SW
Title: Lobster grah.
Post by: GtoRA2 on February 04, 2005, 03:25:19 PM
lol Wulfe

 Try them they rock.



Best lobster I have had and I have had lots.
Title: Lobster grah.
Post by: Lizking on February 04, 2005, 04:34:42 PM
As an aside, let me tell you how to freeze lobster, in case you ever get the chance to dive for them or buy them fresh cheap.

Get plastic cups, the red 16oz kind.  Remove the tails and rinse.  Curl them into a ball, put them into the cup and fill with good water.  Freeze them.  They will last for 2 years and taste as fresh as the day they are caught.  To use, just boil your water, and throw the iceball-lobstertail in the pot (remove the cup, moron).
Title: Re: Lobster grah.
Post by: Martlet on February 04, 2005, 04:46:38 PM
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Originally posted by GtoRA2
The site.  (http://www.livelob.com/lobstergram/shop)


You guys ever try them? Great service and boy are the lobsters good.


They will send you live ones or fresh frozen tails.


The clam chowder is great as well.


Holy tourist rip off, Batman!
Title: Lobster grah.
Post by: GtoRA2 on February 04, 2005, 04:50:55 PM
The prices are not that Bad in comparison to buying local around here Mart, sucks but true.
Title: Lobster grah.
Post by: kbman on February 04, 2005, 04:53:08 PM
But for crying out loud, DON'T throw out the bodies and shells! Make stock out of them, freeeze it and enjoy the indescribable richness of that lobster flavor in sauces and soups for months after that one delicious but fleeting tail ;)
Title: Lobster grah.
Post by: Martlet on February 04, 2005, 04:55:39 PM
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Originally posted by GtoRA2
The prices are not that Bad in comparison to buying local around here Mart, sucks but true.


Wow.  That's rough.  I usually get mine free, but if I don't have time to go to the docks and I actually buy them, I could feed the neighborhood at that price.

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Originally posted by kbman
But for crying out loud, DON'T throw out the bodies and shells! Make stock out of them, freeeze it and enjoy the indescribable richness of that lobster flavor in sauces and soups for months after that one delicious but fleeting tail ;)


Amen.  some of the best meat is in the body.

Anyone coming through Boston or Maine, be sure to give me a heads up and I'll show you a real lobster feed.  If your a eurotard, I'll probably kick your arse before I feed you, but it will be worth it.
Title: Lobster grah.
Post by: GtoRA2 on February 04, 2005, 04:57:02 PM
the only cheap shell fish here is dungeness grab, its ok but its no lobster.
Title: Lobster grah.
Post by: LePaul on February 04, 2005, 05:09:59 PM
Well since Im in the lobster heartland here in Maine....

http://www.mainelobsterdirect.com

http://mclaughlinseafood.gourmetfoodmall.com

The second one would be my ideal referral.  I stop by their store from time to time and get some for supper.  Call ahead and they boil em for ya.
Title: Lobster grah.
Post by: GtoRA2 on February 04, 2005, 05:13:02 PM
Nice, thanks for the links!
Title: Lobster grah.
Post by: Martlet on February 04, 2005, 05:23:47 PM
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Originally posted by GtoRA2
Nice, thanks for the links!


Here's one of the best for straight seafood.  Whether it's a great deal or not depends on where you live.  It's the shipping that kills you.

http://www.coastallobster.com/#store (http://www.coastallobster.com/#store)
Title: Lobster grah.
Post by: LePaul on February 04, 2005, 05:28:13 PM
Heh....well its a perishable item!

When I worked at UPS, it was always sad to see how many morons would try to ship those high-end steaks to a PO Box.  We'd search and search for the street address but usually, no go.  Or if we did call them, with folks being leery of telemarketers...they'd see UPS on the caller ID and not answer
Title: Lobster grah.
Post by: GtoRA2 on February 04, 2005, 05:29:18 PM
Thanks man!

I love this stuff!


When is lobster season? Maybe I can get my boss to send me out that way then!
Title: Lobster grah.
Post by: GtoRA2 on February 04, 2005, 05:30:48 PM
LOL yeah people and there PO boxes.


We cant ship to them from were I work, man have I had arguments with people about getting a real address.  Felt like going to all the big pornomag web pages and subscribing for them after!
Title: Lobster grah.
Post by: LePaul on February 04, 2005, 05:33:34 PM
Its pretty much year round, I think they have a few pauses here and there.  You can look it up on the web, Im not exactly sure.

Here at the bank I work for, most all of them bank with us.  Since Im not on the customer service end, I cant ask the next Popeye that walks in  :)  ( Uck uck uck uck!)

Weather wise....you dont wanna come here now.  Hit this area around May/June....or September if you want to enjoy the changing colors of the leaves.  

Oh, if you do visit, prepare to drop your "R"  's  Lobster= lobstah  Car = Cah....etc etc
Title: Lobster grah.
Post by: kbman on February 04, 2005, 05:39:51 PM
Any of you guys ever been to the maritime  museum in Bath? They have a huge preserved lobster on display there. The thing is about a yard long and a foot wide and weighed 44 lbs. when caught. Each claw was about as big as your head:eek:

kbman
Title: Lobster grah.
Post by: GtoRA2 on February 04, 2005, 05:40:36 PM
They sent me to Halifax at the end of November and I left right as the first big storm came in. Got stranded in Newark NJ for 2 days. SUCKED!


I hope to not have to fly anywere near there tell spring!
Title: Lobster grah.
Post by: Raubvogel on February 04, 2005, 06:08:59 PM
That's alot of money for the cockroach of the sea.
Title: Lobster grah.
Post by: rabbidrabbit on February 04, 2005, 06:34:35 PM
Ouch on the pricing..!:eek:

I hated paying more than 6 bucks per pound and that was for the over 10 pounds ones...  4 bucks per pound was about as high as I would go for a 2 pounder....
Title: Lobster grah.
Post by: Martlet on February 04, 2005, 08:13:32 PM
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Originally posted by rabbidrabbit
Ouch on the pricing..!:eek:

I hated paying more than 6 bucks per pound and that was for the over 10 pounds ones...  4 bucks per pound was about as high as I would go for a 2 pounder....
 

10 pound lobsters suck.  5 pound lobsters suck.  Only tourists and talkers eat those.  Anyone that loves the taste of lobster wouldn't eat anything that big.  

They're breeders, anyway.  You throw those back.
Title: Lobster grah.
Post by: patrone on February 04, 2005, 08:19:36 PM
6 Bucks per pound?, you guys have the guts to call it expensive?

15$ here for the imported fresh, American "brown" lobster.

Swedish caught "black/blue" lobster will go for between 30-100$ per pound.

The tastiest ones are weight around a pound. If they get to big they will taste like "wood". A grown lobster is about 7 years old before he reaches 1 pound of weight. the real  big ones about 50 years old.
 
And if you are going to make stock from the shells, grind them in a meatgrinder and use very hot oil for to "burn" them off. Some brandy or scotch will work miracle for the taste. But be careful if you use a gasstove, you might want to clear your head away when you pour it.

and if you gonna freez em, freez em raw, whith shells still on. But, to freez is making them loose atleast 30% of taste.
cook em alive. Best to "stick" them with a knife into their heads, before. Otherwise, they might drop their claws from the shock.
Title: Lobster grah.
Post by: NUKE on February 04, 2005, 09:02:58 PM
I'm hungry now!

Patrone, I'd trust you to make a nice, yummy meal.
Title: Lobster grah.
Post by: Lizking on February 04, 2005, 09:16:36 PM
Patrone, I am assuming you have never been to a lobster season where you can catch more than you can eat?  After Lobster and scrambled eggs, lobster pattie burgers, lobster queso, lobster spagetti, lobster brochette,  and lobster on the shell for 3 or 4 days, it is time to freeze some bugs!  Frozen in the cup, they are hard to tell from fresh, but these are Florida lobsters, not Maine ones.
Title: Lobster grah.
Post by: rabbidrabbit on February 04, 2005, 09:19:11 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Martlet
10 pound lobsters suck.  5 pound lobsters suck.  Only tourists and talkers eat those.  Anyone that loves the taste of lobster wouldn't eat anything that big.  

They're breeders, anyway.  You throw those back.



Really?  ever try a 10 pound lobster?  You can screw up anything if you are stupid enough but mine come out just as tender and tasty as a 2 pounder...
Title: Lobster grah.
Post by: Martlet on February 04, 2005, 09:21:56 PM
Quote
Originally posted by rabbidrabbit
Really?  ever try a 10 pound lobster?  You can screw up anything if you are stupid enough but mine come out just as tender and tasty as a 2 pounder...


I have.

Like I said, the only people that eat lobsters that size are tourists that don't know any better.
Title: Lobster grah.
Post by: patrone on February 04, 2005, 09:26:11 PM
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Originally posted by NUKE
I'm hungry now!

Patrone, I'd trust you to make a nice, yummy meal.



Yes, Common, where are you, been trying to serve you some hot "dish" for a while, online flying, wheres that Oclub thingy???
Title: Lobster grah.
Post by: rabbidrabbit on February 04, 2005, 09:27:44 PM
Try learning how to cook and they come out just fine... its not a turkey, you don't roast them for hours.

Larger lobsters are commonly sold in NH and Maine and its to locals mostly. The tourist spots just sell one to two pounders since most tourists are fool enough to believe old wives tales based on ignorance as well as stupid enough to pay 25 bucks for a 1 LB lobster and a corn cob.
Title: Lobster grah.
Post by: Martlet on February 04, 2005, 09:34:18 PM
Quote
Originally posted by rabbidrabbit
Try learning how to cook and they come out just fine... its not a turkey, you don't roast them for hours.

Larger lobsters are commonly sold in NH and Maine and its to locals mostly. The tourist spots just sell one to two pounders since most tourists are fool enough to believe old wives tales based on ignorance as well as stupid enough to pay 25 bucks for a 1 LB lobster and a corn cob.



Like I said.  Tourists eat large lobsters.  You can't even buy them in Maine.  Maine has a 5" CL limit.  I grew up on lobster boats out of Friendship, ME.

You sure you've eaten lobster?
Title: Lobster grah.
Post by: GRUNHERZ on February 04, 2005, 09:44:32 PM
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Originally posted by patrone
6 Bucks per pound?, you guys have the guts to call it expensive?

15$ here for the imported fresh, American "brown" lobster.

Swedish caught "black/blue" lobster will go for between 30-100$ per pound.

The tastiest ones are weight around a pound. If they get to big they will taste like "wood". A grown lobster is about 7 years old before he reaches 1 pound of weight. the real  big ones about 50 years old.
 
And if you are going to make stock from the shells, grind them in a meatgrinder and use very hot oil for to "burn" them off. Some brandy or scotch will work miracle for the taste. But be careful if you use a gasstove, you might want to clear your head away when you pour it.

and if you gonna freez em, freez em raw, whith shells still on. But, to freez is making them loose atleast 30% of taste.
cook em alive. Best to "stick" them with a knife into their heads, before. Otherwise, they might drop their claws from the shock.


Please post this method on the Peta message boards. Please!
Title: Lobster grah.
Post by: patrone on February 04, 2005, 09:52:52 PM
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Please post this method on the Peta message boards. Please!



Wait until I tell you how we "drown" the crabs or skin the catfish..hahahahahahahaha

Rabbit, loubsters here are very scarse and the fishing is very hard restricted, but we got stuff that is much better and that we treat like you do with the "florida" thingies.
Title: Lobster grah.
Post by: rabbidrabbit on February 04, 2005, 11:04:23 PM
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Originally posted by Martlet
Like I said.  Tourists eat large lobsters.  You can't even buy them in Maine.  Maine has a 5" CL limit.  I grew up on lobster boats out of Friendship, ME.

You sure you've eaten lobster?



You can keep saying somehting that is wrong but that will never make it right.

"Tourists eat large lobsters."
I have been to dozens of the "tourist" places including most of the famous ones.  I have never seen any of them sell a lobster more than 2 1/2 lbs.  So I don't know who these "tourists" are that your talking about.

I used to buy my big boys from a guy down the street in Hampton, NH.  He sold them up to 15 lbs or so and had 2 brothers who sold the same sizes in Portland ME.  The same place where you say they were not.  You might wish to revisit your facts.
Title: Lobster grah.
Post by: patrone on February 04, 2005, 11:08:26 PM
It does´nt seem like we are talking about same kind of lobsters.
A lobster that big (15lbs) are atleast 75 years old..............

Rabbit, you dont know what you are talking about, thats very clear. Or your eyemessure is shrecked-up
Title: Lobster grah.
Post by: Martlet on February 04, 2005, 11:08:30 PM
Quote
Originally posted by rabbidrabbit
You can keep saying somehting that is wrong but that will never make it right.

"Tourists eat large lobsters."
I have been to dozens of the "tourist" places including most of the famous ones.  I have never seen any of them sell a lobster more than 2 1/2 lbs.  So I don't know who these "tourists" are that your talking about.

I used to buy my big boys from a guy down the street in Hampton, NH.  He sold them up to 15 lbs or so and had 2 brothers who sold the same sizes in Portland ME.  The same place where you say they were not.  You might wish to revisit your facts.


Nah, it just shows you're either A:  lying  or B:  buying them illegally.

I'm opting for A:, since any decent lobsterman would laugh at you eating a 15 pound lobster, then kick your arse for poaching it.
Title: Lobster grah.
Post by: rabbidrabbit on February 04, 2005, 11:20:59 PM
I doubt they are Illegal to sell, they have had the store there in the summers for at least 12 years.  If you want directions I can drum them up.  Don't call me a liar unless you know you are right.  In this case you are not.  From my understanding these are not caught in U.S. waters , hence do not have the same restrictions.  Beyond that I do not know.  Martlet, you clearly have never had a lobster cooked right.  You can't  toss them in the oven for hours or something stupid like that.  They will certainly come out tough.  I know you think your right regardless of reality but thats OK.  If you ever do try one one just steam it for about 20-30 mins covered.  They have some slightly more dense connective tissue in the tail making it maybe a bit tougher than a 2 lber not not much at all.  The rest of the meat is just the same.  Feel free to keep flaming me for some old wives tales on how badly cooked lobster can be tough.
Title: Lobster grah.
Post by: patrone on February 04, 2005, 11:30:08 PM
Steamed Lobster, whatayaknow, learn something new every day. Might as well eat jellyfish.

For 20-30 min?...hmm...whatever cookbook you´re using, get a new one.
Title: Lobster grah.
Post by: LePaul on February 04, 2005, 11:30:33 PM
Wow.  I've lived to see it all.

Flaming each other over lobster and who knows more about it  LOL

I'm abstaining...but enjoying it immensely!
Title: Lobster grah.
Post by: Martlet on February 04, 2005, 11:44:49 PM
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Originally posted by rabbidrabbit
I doubt they are Illegal to sell, they have had the store there in the summers for at least 12 years.  If you want directions I can drum them up.  Don't call me a liar unless you know you are right.  In this case you are not.  From my understanding these are not caught in U.S. waters , hence do not have the same restrictions.  Beyond that I do not know.  Martlet, you clearly have never had a lobster cooked right.  You can't  toss them in the oven for hours or something stupid like that.  They will certainly come out tough.  I know you think your right regardless of reality but thats OK.  If you ever do try one one just steam it for about 20-30 mins covered.  They have some slightly more dense connective tissue in the tail making it maybe a bit tougher than a 2 lber not not much at all.  The rest of the meat is just the same.  Feel free to keep flaming me for some old wives tales on how badly cooked lobster can be tough.


Doubt all you'd like.  I grew up lobstering in Maine.  Here's a copy of the regs. (http://www.maine.gov/dmr/rm/lobster/lobsterlawbook.htm)   Take a browse.

You say they are from out of the country, now?  Heh.  Ok.  Where?  Canada?  Under the Magnussen Act, they are still illegal.

So on that basis I'm calling BS on your friends selling them, so yes, I'll take those directions you offered.  

Secondly, as I stated before, my first job on the water was a bait cutter in jr high.  I eventually worked my way up to stern man (an equally crappy job, just less smelly), and have been cooking and eating lobster my entire life.

My favorite way is a rock lined bonfire on the beach.  Drop the grate down, seaweed, steamers, mussels and enough lobster to feed an army.  That's the best way to cook them, IMO.  If we ever saw a tourist take out a pair of 15 pounders, we'd laugh.
Title: Lobster grah.
Post by: Eagler on February 04, 2005, 11:46:03 PM
cockroaches of the sea

aren't they bottom feeders? :)
Title: Lobster grah.
Post by: Lizking on February 04, 2005, 11:46:14 PM
Shoot, when I cook them, they are lucky to get 10 minutes on the grill.  Of course these are little Florida crawdads, not Maine Lobsters.

(http://www.lizking.com/ccbugs.jpg)
Title: Lobster grah.
Post by: rpm on February 04, 2005, 11:57:09 PM
You guys are makin me miss Alaska. :(
Title: Lobster grah.
Post by: patrone on February 05, 2005, 12:07:10 AM
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Originally posted by Lizking
Shoot, when I cook them, they are lucky to get 10 minutes on the grill.  Of course these are little Florida crawdads, not Maine Lobsters.
 


Cut the shell in the bottom and spread them so that  flesh are facing one side, then I doubt you will need more then maximum 5 min.

Then mix thyme, garlic, salt and butter on the flesh side, when you serve.

Can be done in the oven as well, 5 min, but fleshside up and cover it with the buttermix before, not after.
Title: Lobster grah.
Post by: rabbidrabbit on February 05, 2005, 12:52:07 AM
OK Martlet,

Calling BS are you?  How would you know whats BS ?  After reading back though this thread it seems you are quite sure only tourists eat larger lobsters. You say this again and again.  I assume you do this to establish your superiority to everyone else.
At the same time you repeatedly state thats illegal for all these same touristy places to sell the same lobsters you say that they are eating.  Are you expecting a mass raid on all the lobster shops in New England perhaps?  When will this mass conspiracy end?  You can not hold two completely contradictory positions and expect to maintain any credibility.

Feel free to explain to me how this vast illegal market is doing since you know what you are talking about.

If you are at all serious I'll PM you the directions to the place I bought mine.  It's in Hampton , NH on Rt 1, just a mile south of RT 101.
Title: Lobster grah.
Post by: Martlet on February 05, 2005, 01:02:29 AM
Quote
Originally posted by rabbidrabbit
OK Martlet,

Calling BS are you?  How would you know whats BS ?  After reading back though this thread it seems you are quite sure only tourists eat larger lobsters. You say this again and again.  I assume you do this to establish your superiority to everyone else.
At the same time you repeatedly state thats illegal for all these same touristy places to sell the same lobsters you say that they are eating.  Are you expecting a mass raid on all the lobster shops in New England perhaps?  When will this mass conspiracy end?  You can not hold two completely contradictory positions and expect to maintain any credibility.

Feel free to explain to me how this vast illegal market is doing since you know what you are talking about.

If you are at all serious I'll PM you the directions to the place I bought mine.  It's in Hampton , NH on Rt 1, just a mile south of RT 101.


I am serious.  PM away.

I'm not sure what you are saying is contradictory.   I'll try to decipher your rant.

I know what's BS because I grew up in the industry.  Major changes I'm up to date on.  Minor changes I may not be.  Size limits are not minor.

I was half joking when I say tourists only eat huge lobsters.  We all have for the novelty.  It is illegal.  You won't catch stores selling them.  You won't catch tourists eating them in stores.  You WILL, however, find tourists on the docks offering to pay decent money for them if someone should happen to know where they are.  You'll also find tourists asking people they know where to find them.  All the tourists want to eat a big lobster.  Why?  Because like you, they don't know any better.  That's the point I was making.

Smaller lobsters are much better.   Anyone that knows lobsters knows that.  If you like larger lobsters better, fine.  Some guys put lots of things in their mouths that most people find disgusting.  I guess you're just one of them.
Title: Lobster grah.
Post by: rabbidrabbit on February 05, 2005, 01:18:32 AM
You repeatedly say only tourists eat large lobsters and then say they can't be bought.  Backpedaling by saying tourists TRY to eat large lobsters now is unbecoming.  You can't have that both ways.  If anyone was eating illegal lobsters I doubt they would be selling them in retail shops and tourist traps.

maybe, just maybe .. you are wrong.. get over it.. it's not as big deal.

I originally thought the same thing about larger lobsters but I bumped into the place and followed their cooking directions.  In doing so I was proved wrong.  If you cook a large lobster correctly they will come out just as good as a smaller one.  I know you won't change your position regardless of what anyone says so there is no point in going any further.



I'll save you the PM ..

From Maine:

Take 95 south to 101 East.  The next exit is  RT 1 South.  Its about a mile down on your lft.  You will go over a large tidal mud flat and see a antique's shop on the left before it.  It's next to a small drainage river.  Normally they are open from May- Sept.  Don't remember the name but might be able to find out.
Title: Lobster grah.
Post by: Lizking on February 05, 2005, 01:26:52 AM
Look at the picture closely, patrone, that is how I do it.
Title: Lobster grah.
Post by: Martlet on February 05, 2005, 01:29:10 AM
Quote
Originally posted by rabbidrabbit
You repeatedly say only tourists eat large lobsters and then say they can't be bought.  Backpedaling by saying tourists TRY to eat large lobsters now is unbecoming.  You can't have that both ways.  If anyone was eating illegal lobsters I doubt they would be selling them in retail shops and tourist traps.

maybe, just maybe .. you are wrong.. get over it.. it's not as big deal.

I originally thought the same thing about larger lobsters but I bumped into the place and followed their cooking directions.  In doing so I was proved wrong.  If you cook a large lobster correctly they will come out just as good as a smaller one.  I know you won't change your position regardless of what anyone says so there is no point in going any further.



I'll save you the PM ..

From Maine:

Take 95 south to 101 East.  The next exit is  RT 1 South.  Its about a mile down on your lft.  You will go over a large tidal mud flat and see a antique's shop on the left before it.  It's next to a small drainage river.  Normally they are open from May- Sept.  Don't remember the name but might be able to find out.


Back pedaling?  Nice stretch.  You got caught making something up.  Don't be embarrassed.  Consider it a lesson learned.  Heck, I provided links to back up what I said.

The very fact that you say you can buy a 15 pound lobster there emphasizes my point.  You made it up.  Fine.  It's ok.  You'll live.
Title: Lobster grah.
Post by: Toad on February 05, 2005, 01:50:05 AM
Jumbo New England Lobster (http://www.lobsters-online.com/jumbo.html)

Title: Lobster grah.
Post by: rabbidrabbit on February 05, 2005, 08:56:35 AM
Thanks Toad..>


OK Martlet,


Go for it... keep contradicting yourself and denying observable fact...  

Don't worry you are always right no matter what.  I don't have hard feelings.
Title: Lobster grah.
Post by: Martlet on February 05, 2005, 08:57:54 AM
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Originally posted by Toad
Jumbo New England Lobster (http://www.lobsters-online.com/jumbo.html)



That's a Boston Company.  Not Maine.  I'm not familiar with MA laws on lostering.
Title: Lobster grah.
Post by: rabbidrabbit on February 05, 2005, 09:13:56 AM
Oh wait, what about a 15 pounder?  They don't sell those  do they?

I bet this one is made of rubber!


http://www.seawitchlobster.com/jumbo.htm

Oh, I only know Maine laws is lame, that was not your position.  Please stop changing your position then claiming thats was it all along.

Apparently you don't know any more about   the lobster market than you do about cooking them.  BTW, a clambake is fine for the little guys and its real tasty when cooked with seaweed.  The problem was people tossed the big ones in for hours because they mistakenly thought something that big would take that much longer to cook.  Lobster and crab have very limited connective tissue due to their external skeletons and aquatic lifestyle, hence, there is little difference in the outcome if prepared properly.  If you don't understand what you are cooking then you are likely to overcook it and it will certainly be tough.  Hence, there is your problem.

Please have the decency to concede your position honorably instead of digging a deeper hole.
Title: Lobster grah.
Post by: Martlet on February 05, 2005, 09:49:16 AM
Quote
Originally posted by rabbidrabbit
Oh wait, what about a 15 pounder?  They don't sell those  do they?

I bet this one is made of rubber!


http://www.seawitchlobster.com/jumbo.htm

Oh, I only know Maine laws is lame, that was not your position.  Please stop changing your position then claiming thats was it all along.

Apparently you don't know any more about   the lobster market than you do about cooking them.  BTW, a clambake is fine for the little guys and its real tasty when cooked with seaweed.  The problem was people tossed the big ones in for hours because they mistakenly thought something that big would take that much longer to cook.  Lobster and crab have very limited connective tissue due to their external skeletons and aquatic lifestyle, hence, there is little difference in the outcome if prepared properly.  If you don't understand what you are cooking then you are likely to overcook it and it will certainly be tough.  Hence, there is your problem.


Please have the decency to concede your position honorably instead of digging a deeper hole.


Lame?  What's lame about not knowing MA laws?  I don't.  I never fished here.  All I know about MA laws is you can dive here.  Apparently the size limit is different as well.   You claimed you had buddies selling 15 pound lobsters in Maine.  You don't.  You lied.  I claimed only tourists eat big lobsters.

All you've done is prove my point.  You  post over priced tourist trap ad in MA for over sized lobsters.

You lied.  Accept it.  You don't have any friends that own a lobster pound.  You don't know anyone that sells over-sized lobster in maine.

It's ok to get caught lying.  The world won't end.
Title: Lobster grah.
Post by: rabbidrabbit on February 05, 2005, 10:18:44 AM
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Originally posted by Martlet
Heh, my Fraternity brothers got me that book in college.  I can't imagine why.


http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=142080

Ever wonder why they got you the book?  Maybe you should have read it.  You would not be in such a sorry hole here if you did.

Lets look at your latest string of BS..

"You claimed you had buddies selling 15 pound lobsters in Maine. You don't. You lied.

Nope, never claimed that.  Show me where I claimed I had buddies selling 15 pound lobsters.  Stop lying and claiming its me who is lying.

"I claimed only tourists eat big lobsters."

Yes you did, then you claimed it was illegal to sell those same lobsters.  When shown to be wrong you went back to this claim. I have repeatedly shown you that lobsters this size are rarely sold in those tourist traps , rather, they are sold by local guys where I lived to locals mostly.  You have your opinion but observable fact seems to contradict your positons as well as you do.

"You lied. Accept it. You don't have any friends that own a lobster pound. You don't know anyone that sells over-sized lobster in maine."


Again, just because you say something over and over does not make it true.  Show me where I said I have friends that own a lobster pound.  I said I talked to the guy at the store and he told me that he had brothers who sold them in Maine.  I even gave you directions to the store.  Take that arguement up with him.  

"It's ok to get caught lying. The world won't end."

Finally some true words.  Now please have the honor to bow out respectably instead of beating your dead horse to the bitter end.  My point is made and I'm pretty sure I'm done.  The large ones are certainly sold in MA and NH.  I trust the guy who runs the lobster pound who tells me the same is true in ME more than I trust you since you seem to have a flexible grasp on whats fact of not.  You said I was lying about the place but it's there, I even gave you directions to get there yourself to check it out personally.  The same is true for what I said about cooking them.  I have eaten many dozens and dozens of Maine lobsters of all sizes and preparing the larger ones properly will yield fine results.
Title: Lobster grah.
Post by: Martlet on February 05, 2005, 10:50:16 AM
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I used to buy my big boys from a guy down the street in Hampton, NH. He sold them up to 15 lbs or so and had 2 brothers who sold the same sizes in Portland ME. The same place where you say they were not. You might wish to revisit your facts.


Who?  I'm calling BS.  Again, put up.  You're a liar.
Title: Lobster grah.
Post by: rabbidrabbit on February 05, 2005, 11:21:33 AM
Ignore when I point out some of your obvious lies and yet again I point at observable facts and how your statements directly contradict observable fact. The store is there.  Go check it yourself.  So far I have been able to back up everything I have said.   I have also been able to point out where your statements directly contradict themselves as well as observable fact.  How about responding to my prior post?  You called me a liar but it's clearly you who is lying since you can't show those statements you made to be true.  If you could you most certainly would have.


Put up?  how much more do you need than directions to the place as well as web sites where you can buy the same?  It does not matter what the facts are you will defend your ego at any cost.  I'm not mad at you, I pity you.  Good luck.

Either that or you are just trolling.  This horse is dead, you lost.  Feel free to get in your last post so you can claim you won.  If you want to PM me we can carry on the discussion there.
Title: Lobster grah.
Post by: Martlet on February 05, 2005, 04:35:48 PM
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Originally posted by rabbidrabbit
Ignore when I point out some of your obvious lies and yet again I point at observable facts and how your statements directly contradict observable fact. The store is there.  Go check it yourself.  So far I have been able to back up everything I have said.   I have also been able to point out where your statements directly contradict themselves as well as observable fact.  How about responding to my prior post?  You called me a liar but it's clearly you who is lying since you can't show those statements you made to be true.  If you could you most certainly would have.


Put up?  how much more do you need than directions to the place as well as web sites where you can buy the same?  It does not matter what the facts are you will defend your ego at any cost.  I'm not mad at you, I pity you.  Good luck.

Either that or you are just trolling.  This horse is dead, you lost.  Feel free to get in your last post so you can claim you won.  If you want to PM me we can carry on the discussion there.


You can't provide it?  Apparently you didn't read the links to the Maine lobster laws I posted.  It's illegal.  You lied.  You further said they sold 15 pound lobsters in NH and Maine.  I called bs.  It's illegal in Maine.

Your "evidence" was you know someone who does it.  Fine.  who?  You picked an awful stupid thing to lie about.

"crickets"
Title: Lobster grah.
Post by: rabbidrabbit on February 05, 2005, 04:51:59 PM
Epilogue.....

For all the amused spectators to this spectacle.. note that he could not bring himself to PM me but rather let his fragile ego get in the last neener! neener!.

Also note that he can't dispute that he fabricated statements which he falsely attributed to me then accused me of lying based on those fabricated statements.  The irony there has endless amusement...>

Thats besides the fact that he kept changing his positions even though they were contradictory yet it's all facts... even if  both positions can't be true at the same time...

I'm sorry, my amusement kept me going  but I'll let this beaten pulp of a horse rest..>

OK Martlet... get your last Neener Neener!!  in... I forgive ya.
Title: Lobster grah.
Post by: Lizking on February 05, 2005, 04:56:13 PM
If you boys get yourself into such a lather about bugs, it does not bode well for anything serious.
Title: Lobster grah.
Post by: rabbidrabbit on February 05, 2005, 05:13:31 PM
Honestly, I could not care less...   Doesn't really matter because I don't care what he has to say if he can't debate with honor.

so, no lather here and I hope he is no such state himself...  its just a message board...>

OK, sorry.. just did not want any confusion.
Title: Lobster grah.
Post by: Martlet on February 05, 2005, 05:51:18 PM
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Originally posted by rabbidrabbit
Epilogue.....

For all the amused spectators to this spectacle.. note that he could not bring himself to PM me but rather let his fragile ego get in the last neener! neener!.

Also note that he can't dispute that he fabricated statements which he falsely attributed to me then accused me of lying based on those fabricated statements.  The irony there has endless amusement...>

Thats besides the fact that he kept changing his positions even though they were contradictory yet it's all facts... even if  both positions can't be true at the same time...

I'm sorry, my amusement kept me going  but I'll let this beaten pulp of a horse rest..>

OK Martlet... get your last Neener Neener!!  in... I forgive ya.


Still can't come up with the name of the place you buy illegal lobsters, huh?

Guess it just doesn't exist.  

Of course you'll let it rest.  You can only lie for so long before you get caught.

You picked a dumb thing to lie about, though.
Title: Lobster grah.
Post by: JB88 on February 05, 2005, 06:28:27 PM
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Title: Lobster grah.
Post by: Toad on February 05, 2005, 06:53:34 PM
Biggest lobster I ever chowed down on was a 28 pounder. Bought on the Jersey shore at a seafood store. My aunt cooked it for a big family affair. IIRC, she  boiled it in a huge restaurant stock pot and finished it under the broiler in one of those big old turkey roaster pans. I recall that the front 1/3 of the body, including the claws, hung outside of the pan.

The tail, when sliced was the size of a filet mignon, the claws were way bigger than my teenage fist.

It was simply excellent. Tender and flavorful. But then my aunt was an excellent cook and they owned a restaurant.

I recall that the lobster cost less than $60 too. She sent my cousin and I to get it.

Must have been right around '69-'70.