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Post by: megadud on February 05, 2005, 09:19:45 PM
Forrest Gump best movie ever....

there are alot of close seconds but none top FG

megadud
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Post by: Halo on February 05, 2005, 09:32:35 PM
Gump is good, but better movies include Man for All Seasons, Fargo, The Last Wave, Amadeus, The Night of the Hunter, Jesus Christ Superstar, Husbands and Wives, Pulp Fiction, Breaking Away, and Tell Me a Riddle.
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Post by: rpm on February 05, 2005, 10:11:10 PM
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Originally posted by Halo
Gump is good, but better movies include Man for All Seasons, Fargo, The Last Wave, Amadeus, The Night of the Hunter, Jesus Christ Superstar, Husbands and Wives, Pulp Fiction, Breaking Away, and Tell Me a Riddle.
Out of that whole list only Pulp Fiction is in the ballpark, and it's way out in left field. FG may not be the greatest movie ever, but it's in the top 5.
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Post by: DiabloTX on February 05, 2005, 10:35:12 PM
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Originally posted by rpm
Out of that whole list only Pulp Fiction is in the ballpark, and it's way out in left field. FG may not be the greatest movie ever, but it's in the top 5.


Yeah, no ****, where's Megaforce???
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Post by: Dago on February 05, 2005, 10:36:09 PM
I think The English Patient was better.

This is one of those "the best" discussions that can not really be decided.  Too subjective.  

dago
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Post by: Nash on February 05, 2005, 10:44:26 PM
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Originally posted by Dago
I think The English Patient was better.

This is one of those "the best" discussions that can not really be decided.  Too subjective.  

dago


That was that chick flick that had that.... chick in it, right?
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Post by: Dead Man Flying on February 05, 2005, 10:46:03 PM
Taxi Driver, kids.  Taxi Driver.

-- Todd/Leviathn
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Post by: SOB on February 05, 2005, 10:46:51 PM
dago = femme
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Post by: Sixpence on February 05, 2005, 10:49:37 PM
Ford Fairlane
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Post by: rpm on February 05, 2005, 10:50:18 PM
DeNero...overrated.
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Post by: Masherbrum on February 06, 2005, 12:51:05 AM
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Originally posted by Halo
Gump is good, but better movies include Man for All Seasons, Fargo, The Last Wave, Amadeus, The Night of the Hunter, Jesus Christ Superstar, Husbands and Wives, Pulp Fiction, Breaking Away, and Tell Me a Riddle.


Forrest Gump sucked fried monkey balls.  

Citizen Kane blows ANY film made today, away.  I'd put Schindler's List a LONG way ahead of Gump.   Goodfellas is better as well.

Karaya
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Post by: megadud on February 06, 2005, 01:19:52 AM
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
Forrest Gump sucked fried monkey balls.  

Citizen Kane blows ANY film made today, away.  I'd put Schindler's List a LONG way ahead of Gump.   Goodfellas is better as well.

Karaya


Citizen Kane was horrible...Schindlers list..horrible....goodfellas. ..good...FG best ever....

megadud
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Post by: JB88 on February 06, 2005, 01:26:53 AM
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
Forrest Gump sucked fried monkey balls.  

Citizen Kane blows ANY film made today, away.  I'd put Schindler's List a LONG way ahead of Gump.   Goodfellas is better as well.

Karaya


FG great.  but i think that it was actually the supporting characters that made the film.  shrimp boats.

shrimp etouffe, shrimp gumbo, shrimp jambalaya, shrimp creole...

shindlers list.  a triumph.  beautiful.  couldnt have been anything BUT black and white. that's what punctuated it.

goodfellas.  classic.

lawrence of arabia.  one of the most beautiful films to date.  not sure that its been beaten yet on the cinematography scale.

actually.  thats not true.  it has met its matches.  but i dont know if its been beaten yet.
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Post by: Wolfala on February 06, 2005, 01:48:00 AM
Crimson Tide - nuff said.
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Post by: JB88 on February 06, 2005, 02:11:57 AM
really?

you think that was hackman at his finest?
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Post by: Heretik on February 06, 2005, 02:13:09 AM
I don't know what the best movie ever is, but I'm pretty sure Guy Ritchie made it.
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Post by: Quah! on February 06, 2005, 02:45:09 AM
Spaceballs.
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Post by: bunch on February 06, 2005, 03:03:08 AM
I've decided you're wrong, it was just another in the neverending string of "look at me, i'm an actor, i can play a tard, give me an oscar" flicks
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Post by: rpm on February 06, 2005, 03:47:22 AM
Bunch, you just lost any film critique cred you may have or ever will have. Tom Hanks is the closest thing we have seen to Jimmy Stewart and a strong arguement can be made he's the best actor in film today. On top of that, he's a helluva nice guy. He needs to do a western to round out his achievements.
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Post by: JB88 on February 06, 2005, 04:19:14 AM
now THAT would be interesting.

definately.
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Post by: DiabloTX on February 06, 2005, 04:28:37 AM
I always pictured Hanks as more of a Henry Fonda of our time.

But that's just me.

And don't do FG around Hanks, he freaking hates it.

A friend of mine worked on the Apollo 13 reshoots here and had some good things to say about Hanks.
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Post by: bunch on February 06, 2005, 05:03:50 AM
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Originally posted by rpm
Bunch, you just lost any film critique cred you may have or ever will have. Tom Hanks is the closest thing we have seen to Jimmy Stewart and a strong arguement can be made he's the best actor in film today. On top of that, he's a helluva nice guy. He needs to do a western to round out his achievements.


Although my credibility with you is of little imortance to me, I do have to admit Hanks was great playing opposite John Lovitz as the looser who couldn't make time with the ladies.

(http://www.leenite.org/jonisland/graphics/losers.jpg)

Best actor in Hollywood is like best smelling animal in the barnyard.  Oops, iI guess I just made myself an America-hater.
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Post by: DieAz on February 06, 2005, 05:17:55 AM
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Originally posted by rpm
Tom Hanks is the closest thing we have seen to Jimmy Stewart and a strong arguement can be made he's the best actor in film today. On top of that, he's a helluva nice guy. He needs to do a western to round out his achievements.


http://www.killermovies.com/b/booneslick/articles/4115.html

http://movies.go.com/moviesdynamic/movies/movie?id=661473
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Post by: megadud on February 06, 2005, 07:38:07 AM
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Originally posted by bunch
I've decided you're wrong, it was just another in the neverending string of "look at me, i'm an actor, i can play a tard, give me an oscar" flicks


shows how little you know...

First of all it was a great story...the best so far....the writer was a frreakin genius...he accomplished all kinds of crap and it all made sense and went with the story...

The Tom Kanks did play a great tard....it was funny yet had a good message....There is a tard in every movie..sometimes not obvious but 1 in every movie...

top 3 actors of my time...

Deniro
Hanks
3rd one is up in the air...hmm Dakota Fanning..the girl is like 9 years old and she has been in movies with Mike Myers,Denzel, De Niro, Kevin Bacon, Charlize Theron, Christopher Walkin and many more A list Actors...

I think if your in a movie with DE NEro you can officially retire...

megadud
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Post by: Glas on February 06, 2005, 08:02:45 AM
Shawshank Redemption

Stand by Me

The Usual Suspects
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Post by: Jackal1 on February 06, 2005, 08:07:47 AM
BAH BAH.
Not even in the ballpark here.
Best movie ever made---------> Extreme Prejudice with Nick and Powers and Maria Conchita Alonso. (I`d like to cross her border :D )

  Best line is from Powers right after he put a round through one of his hands head in the cantina...."And I liked that MFer too". :D

OOOoh Ooooh! Nearly forgot. I`d like to put this one in as a movie, but the best description would be mini-drama I guess.
Lonesome Dove. Absolutely one of the best of all times.
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Post by: rpm on February 06, 2005, 12:19:48 PM
Thanks for the info DieAz. I had not heard of that yet. Sounds like it has a lot of potential with a Larry McMurtry script.:cool:
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Post by: lasersailor184 on February 06, 2005, 01:10:27 PM
Snatch.  Best movie ever.

Discussion CLOSED
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Post by: NUKE on February 06, 2005, 01:14:02 PM
Forest Gump?????

That movie pretty much sucked.......really sucked.



"The Final Countdown" was the best, most accurate war movie ever made.
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Post by: Halo on February 06, 2005, 02:17:38 PM
Hanks is great, no doubt about it.  He's excelled in everything from Big (should have won Oscar for that one, but comedy is tough) to Philadelphia Story etc.  

So, rpm, you say FG is in the top 5.  What are your other four picks?  And, just curious, how many of the others I mentioned have you seen?
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Post by: Glas on February 06, 2005, 04:41:53 PM
My bad, I forgot to mention the all-time classic...



One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest :aok
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Post by: rpm on February 06, 2005, 04:42:59 PM
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Originally posted by Halo
Hanks is great, no doubt about it.  He's excelled in everything from Big (should have won Oscar for that one, but comedy is tough) to Philadelphia Story etc.  

So, rpm, you say FG is in the top 5.  What are your other four picks?  And, just curious, how many of the others I mentioned have you seen?
I actually don't have a list, but FG would be in it if I did. Excellent story, superb acting, great cinematography and special effects. It was a groundbreaking movie. I'll just throw a few of my favorites out here for you:

Drama:M, North by Northwest, Philadelphia, Il Postino, Lawrence of Arabia, Hud

Comedy: The Philadelphia Story, Bringing Up Baby, Some like It Hot, Snatch, The Great Race, Raising Arizona, Dr. Strangelove

Musical: The Committments*, Paint Your Wagon, Brassed Off*
(*not a true musical in the strictest sense)

War: They Were Expendable, Saving Pvt. Ryan, Schindler's List, Decision Before Dawn

Of the movies on your list:
Tell Me a Riddle: Chick flick. Steel Magnolias and Terms of Endearment were better.

Fargo: Excellent movie, good story filled with wicked dark humor but in no way, shape or form is it as good or better than FG.

Jesus Christ Superstar: Yawn. No wait, I ment ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.

Husbands and Wives: Woody Allen. Nuff said.

The Night of the Hunter: Might have to give you that one. Mitchum gave a great performance. Creepy doesn't begin to describe it. It is in the ballpark.

Amadeus: Good, but not great.

Breaking Away: Good, but not great.

A Man for All Seasons: Again, good...but not great. Overrated IMHO. Doctor Zhivago was a better all around film.
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Post by: J_A_B on February 06, 2005, 05:01:19 PM
"Citizen Kane" bored me so badly I fell asleep.  To date, the only other movie I have ever fallen asleep watching is "Gladiator".  "Jaws the Revenge" is better than "Citizen Kane".  "Plan 9 From Outer Space is better".   "Spice Girls" is probably better, except I haven't and won't see it.   Even the silent and silly "Metropolis" is better, in its own wierd way.  People who pretend to like 'Kane are usually people who want to look like knowledgeable film buffs.  People who actually like it.....are beyond my understanding.

Forrest Gump is allright.

As for individual actors, John Wayne > all.  


J_A_B
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Post by: Dune on February 06, 2005, 05:06:42 PM
Casablanca
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Post by: mora on February 06, 2005, 05:24:08 PM
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Originally posted by Sixpence
Ford Fairlane

The only decent movie that guy ever made,
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Post by: SunKing on February 06, 2005, 06:02:43 PM
Greatest Ever...


The Good, The Bad, The Ugly































Dawn of the Dead a close 2nd.
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Post by: Sandman on February 06, 2005, 07:34:21 PM
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Originally posted by mora
The only decent movie that guy ever made,


Did he make any others?
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Post by: bunch on February 06, 2005, 07:36:53 PM
This thread is over & the winner is     
SunKing
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Post by: Swoop on February 06, 2005, 08:01:52 PM
You're all wrong.

It's "Jay and Silent Bob strike back"

(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/209_1081438631_swoop.gif)
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Post by: debuman on February 06, 2005, 08:25:58 PM
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Originally posted by Jackal1

OOOoh Ooooh! Nearly forgot. I`d like to put this one in as a movie, but the best description would be mini-drama I guess.
Lonesome Dove. Absolutely one of the best of all times.


Lonesome Dove was one of the best movies (mini-series?) ever!
I've never been able to watch Robert Duval in anything since then and not think of him as "Gus".  He's the perfect cowboy type character.  As a cop in "Colors" - no way.  He was still Gus.

"c'mon Laurie - sell me a poke!"
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Post by: megadud on February 06, 2005, 08:49:20 PM
GUMP IS BEST END OF DISCUSSION

MEGADUD
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Post by: eskimo2 on February 06, 2005, 10:08:37 PM
Blues Brothers

eskimo
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Post by: Silat on February 06, 2005, 10:16:48 PM
A boy and his dog
Plot Summary: A post-apocalyptic tale based on a novella by Harlan Ellison. A boy communicates telepathically with his dog as they scavenge for food and sex...


Three Daughters (1986, dir: Candida Royalle) Hehe
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Post by: Saurdaukar on February 06, 2005, 10:19:02 PM
Um...

The Godfather?
Casablanca?
All Quiet on the Western Front?
Shawshank Redemption?
Apolcalypse Now?
The Shining?
2001?

So many great movies... WTF are you guys smoking not listing these?



PS:  Microwave reheated dog poo > Schindler's List.
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Post by: Masherbrum on February 06, 2005, 10:21:46 PM
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Originally posted by J_A_B
People who pretend to like 'Kane are usually people who want to look like knowledgeable film buffs.  People who actually like it.....are beyond my understanding.


Nothing like eating a watermelon sammich, how'd it taste?  I think it's funny you said "pretend".   You probably still dress up in your sisters outfits, cheesed**k.   Get a clue and then buy a vowel.

Karaya
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Post by: J_A_B on February 06, 2005, 10:35:39 PM
Looks like I touched a nerve there.....


On a different note, the good folks at Merriam-Webster (http://www.m-w.com/) can help you broaden your vocabulary, so you don't have to resort to using tragically common masked vulgarity.  I recommend you bookmark the site.


J_A_B
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Post by: Saurdaukar on February 06, 2005, 10:41:10 PM
Hold up you two... lemme get some popcorn from downstairs.
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Post by: Halo on February 06, 2005, 10:43:27 PM
Good choices, rpm, but I think you ought to decide and rank your overall favorite top 10 movies of all categories.  

Few people and few critics would agree on the top x of anything.  

The most important criteria to me are compelling story, people I care about, gorgeous photography, and excellent music.  

In literature, films, and music, I think the hardest thing to achieve is a satisfactory ending.

I'm surprised you didn't like Man for All Seasons more.  It's one of the few to win three of the four top Oscars (picture, actor, director).  

We think exactly opposite on Man for All Seasons vis-a-vis Doctor Zhivago -- to me, DZ is good but lapses into tedium, especially with Omar Shariff's preternaturally dewy eyes.  

You might enjoy The Last Wave.  Richard Chamberlain goes Aussie in an aborigine justice quest.  A bit other worldly like some Latin American fiction.  

I'll have to take another look at Gump.  Hanks is great across the board, but on first cut Gump never made my rerun list.

I agree with you on Woody Allen films, way too masturbatory (i.e., making only himself feel good for his efforts), but Husbands and Wives is an exception, and Judy Brown contributes one of the best episodes ever filmed (separated wife coming unglued on first date).  

Thanks to carefully choosing films in advance, I rarely fall asleep in any, but I can in Woody Allen films where his mouth gibbers on and on.

Megadud, you started this thread and you can't get out of it just by claiming Gump is the best without naming and ranking your top 10 favorite movies in order, and that includes all categories.  No easy outs or qualifications or ties for second or anyplace else.
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Post by: Masherbrum on February 06, 2005, 11:03:00 PM
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Originally posted by J_A_B
Looks like I touched a nerve there.....J_A_B


You think?  You couldn't be more wrong.  Not my fault you need Clff's notes to decipher Movie plots.  

Karaya
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Post by: rpm on February 06, 2005, 11:37:53 PM
DZ's cinematography was the deciding factor for me. AMFAS was done "old school" and really didn't take any risks. Picking "the best" is a subjective thing to be sure.

I thought about putting 2001 in there somewhere. It's a very good film with awesome, cutting edge visuals and Kubrick is one of my favorite directors. I tend to enjoy his earlier work, tho.

I saw a film on TCM last night that was very good. Ride the Pink Horse starring and directed by Robert Montgomery. If you like film noir, you need to check this one out.
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Post by: Mini D on February 07, 2005, 12:05:27 AM
You listed "Some like it Hot" in your top list?  I'm not going to state the obvious.

Gump is a good movie.  Dunno if I'd rank it in the top 10 or not, but it was a very good movie.

As far as film noir goes... Dead Man gets my vote.  It's excellent on so many levels.

Of course, my all time favorite movie has to be Animal House.  Lots of drinking, a sorority pillow fight and fundamental tardiciousness make it a winner.
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Post by: rpm on February 07, 2005, 12:26:30 AM
Aww c'mon...Some Like It Hot was a riot. Tony Curtis, Jack Lemmon, Marilyn Monroe...what's not to love? It's argrueably Billy Wilder's best comedy.
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Post by: JB88 on February 07, 2005, 01:25:32 AM
film noir.

double indemnity.

or chinatown.  

probably chinatown (though it is late late film noir...some might even call it nuevo noir)  but maybe thats just because you see faye dunaway's boobs.

i wonder if i am the only one whos actually taken an entire semesters worth of a class on this topic.  great class.  exceptional teacher.  far too expensive, but i am glad to see it be useful for once.

"like a red hot poker." he says.

ouch.
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Post by: Halo on February 07, 2005, 06:53:49 AM
Lists.  We wanna see Top Ten lists.  Great points and recommendations, but bite the bullet and share and rank the all-time best films you'd just have to have on a desert island with a DVD player.

JB88, did your class arrive at any consensus list of favorite top films?  What did your professor list as his favorites?

What impresses me the most about A Man for All Seasons is its perfection.  I'm fairly critical (pun intended), and to me AMFAS is virtually flawless.  

Because plot is so important, much of AMFAS' film success probably comes from its success as a play.  

When it comes to innovative plot twists, gotta give Quentin Tarantino mucho credit for the surprises in Pulp Fiction.

It's also fun to see how directors get into a groove and often keep working with what works best over several movies, e.g., Eastwood as Eastwood and Tarantino's zany violence from Reservoir Dogs to Pulp Fiction and beyond.

Another great film is Sling Blade.  Billy Bob Thornton joined the list of great actors who always satisfy, including Hanks, DeNiro, Robert Shaw, Harvey Keitel, William Macy, Steve Buscemi, Robert Duvall, Ed Harris, and others.
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Post by: mora on February 07, 2005, 07:05:08 AM
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Originally posted by Sandman
Did he make any others?


I meant the director.:)
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001317/
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Post by: megadud on February 07, 2005, 07:23:27 AM
Forrest Gump
Rudy
Goodfellas
Lord of the ring 3
Saving PRivate Ryan
Shrek 2
Bad Boys 2
Twister
Jarrasic Park
Troy

I don't have any older movies on there because i am young and don't really like many of the older ones....I am not much inot the "history" of movies and i am more concerned with modern day...I have never seen the godfathers...I am also more into comedy and action then anything else...there are a few i would like to putpn but you said ten so there they are...

others concidered...
A bronx tale
Finding Nemo
Miracle
the Bournes

megadud
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Post by: Halo on February 07, 2005, 07:56:44 AM
Megadud, thanks for posting your top ten favorites.  Because that is such hard work and many people would like to do it but  don't have the incentive, I started a separate All-Time Favorite Top Ten Movies thread just before I read your post.

Please add your top ten list to that.  Not hijacking your thread, just trying to add more incentive for people to actually decide and share their top lists before randomly commenting.  Hopefully the  two threads will enhance each other.

You're right, movies are certainly generational, but some can span several generations as favorites.  My top ten list has movies from 1955 to 1994.  I've seen some excellent movies lately but so far none that break into my list.

It's great to get ideas for new films to watch from other people's lists.  The other night I finally caught up to Monster on cable TV and have to add that to my longer list of excellent movies, but not quite in my all-time favorite top ten list.

Others not quite there include Tremors, Airplane!, and Driving Miss Daisy.