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Title: New "buddy" for the Liberator?
Post by: Scrap on February 07, 2005, 05:49:02 PM

(http://dejiny.wz.cz/2sv/letadla/japonsko/5.jpg)

I've read sources that these things used to rip 24s to shreads! The buff killers were equiped with a 37mm cannon.

Title: New "buddy" for the Liberator?
Post by: gear on February 07, 2005, 06:10:54 PM

Kawasaki delivered the first Ki-45 Kai (modified) in August 1942 but Toryus did not reach combat units in China until October. Unlike many Japanese Navy fighter airplanes, the Ki-45 aircraft had crew armor and fire-resistant fuel tanks. These airplanes also carried a heavy gun battery that usually consisted of 20 mm and 37 mm cannons. Toryus operated in the New Guinea area against Allied shipping and attacked Consolidated B-24 Liberator bombers of the 5th Air Force. The Japanese also employed some Ki-45s as night fighters. Field personnel modified these Toryus by substituting the upper fuselage fuel tank for two 12.7 mm machine guns mounted to fire obliquely upwards at a target's vulnerable belly. This worked so well that the army told Kawasaki to manufacture a night fighter version of the Toryu-the Ki-45 Kai (Mod. C)-with two 20 mm cannon, mounted obliquely, and a 37 mm cannon mounted in the lower fuselage.

http://www.ijaafpics.com/jbwki455.htm (http://www.ijaafpics.com/jbwki455.htm)
(http://users.belgacom.net/avphoto/avion1/65630.jpg)

(http://ww2photo.mimerswell.com/air/jap/kasak/04359.jpg)

Title: New "buddy" for the Liberator?
Post by: Scrap on February 09, 2005, 12:30:06 AM

Awwwww cumon!!!!! just cuz it aint allied means no one gonna even smile at the thought?  :D


Open wide boys.  This baby used to pack a real punch (and was produced in decent #s)!

Title: New "buddy" for the Liberator?
Post by: Ack-Ack on February 09, 2005, 01:55:50 AM

Add it I say.  I can always use another Japanese plane for a target.  IIRC, the Ki-45 was the Nick, which was the only plane a P-38 could easily out maneuver at all times.


ack-ack

Title: New "buddy" for the Liberator?
Post by: Zixieo on February 09, 2005, 02:16:34 AM

Yeah more Japanese planes ! ! !
My favorite planes.

Title: New "buddy" for the Liberator?
Post by: gear on February 09, 2005, 07:55:46 AM

Quote

Originally posted by Ack-Ack
the Ki-45 was the Nick

ack-ack

Kawanishi N1K-J "Shiden" / "George"
(http://www.russian.ee/~star/pictures/japan/kawanishi_n1k-j.jpg)

http://www.russian.ee/~star/air/japan/kawanishi_n1k-j.html (http://www.russian.ee/~star/air/japan/kawanishi_n1k-j.html)
Kawasaki Ki-45 Kai Hei
(http://www.airwar.ru/image/i/fww2/ki45-i.jpg)


http://www.nasm.si.edu/research/aero/aircraft/kawasaki_ki45.htm (http://www.nasm.si.edu/research/aero/aircraft/kawasaki_ki45.htm)

Title: New "buddy" for the Liberator?
Post by: Rasker on February 09, 2005, 02:03:22 PM

"Nick" was the US designation of the Ki-45 (as in "Zeke", "Betty", "Peggy"). "Nick" is what we AH'ers call the N1K which the US called "George"

Title: New "buddy" for the Liberator?
Post by: Karnak on February 09, 2005, 02:20:27 PM

Quote

Originally posted by Rasker
"Nick" was the US designation of the Ki-45 (as in "Zeke", "Betty", "Peggy"). "Nick" is what we AH'ers call the N1K which the US called "George"

Actually they call it the "Niki" because in AW they had the N1K1-J, which people phonetisized to"Niki".

Title: New "buddy" for the Liberator?
Post by: SuperDud on February 09, 2005, 02:59:28 PM

It looks a lot like the 110. What does it offer that the 110 doesn't? Not being a smart arse, I just know nothing about it:)

Title: New "buddy" for the Liberator?
Post by: gear on February 09, 2005, 03:37:47 PM

Here is a web site with specs.
ki45
http://www.xs4all.nl/~fbonne/warbirds/ww2htmls/kasaki45.html#kasaki450 (http://www.xs4all.nl/~fbonne/warbirds/ww2htmls/kasaki45.html#kasaki450)

bf110
http://www.xs4all.nl/~fbonne/warbirds/ww2htmls/messbf110.html (http://www.xs4all.nl/~fbonne/warbirds/ww2htmls/messbf110.html)

Title: New "buddy" for the Liberator?
Post by: Scrap on February 09, 2005, 06:04:17 PM

Otsu: 1 20mm 1 37mm

or

Tei: 2 20mm 1 37mm

What a cure to these swiss-cheeseable 24s!!!! :D