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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Nilsen on February 08, 2005, 09:30:13 AM
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Is this a good citation? I mean.. is it high up on the list of citations?
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It's not really high... a Navy Commendation Medal is higher.
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aha ok, thx
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It's #20 in order of importance, out of over 60.
It's nothing to sneeze at.
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I have seen that its the second highest citation you can get in the US.
Anyways... our special forces just got it from your president. Its supposed to be the first time since vietnam that a special force unit has gotten it.
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Originally posted by Nilsen
I have seen that its the second highest citation you can get in the US.
Anyways... our special forces just got it from your president. Its supposed to be the first time since vietnam that a special force unit has gotten it.
Congrats!
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Thx I guess... wasnt me tho, but I have "worked" with atleast one of them along time ago. They got it for the job they did in Afghanistan after 9/11.
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The "PUC" - It's a unit citation, everyone that served in the specified unit between the given dates are allowed to wear it.
PUC navy (http://www.gruntsmilitary.com/npresunit.shtml)
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Originally posted by Nilsen
I have seen that its the second highest citation you can get in the US.
Second highest is the Navy Cross.
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Originally posted by Monk
The "PUC" - It's a unit citation, everyone that served in the specified unit between the given dates are allowed to wear it.
PUC navy (http://www.gruntsmilitary.com/npresunit.shtml)
Yup... Saw it now. Not an individual citation but a unit.
"Criteria
The Navy Presidential Unit Citation is awarded in the name of the President to units of the Armed Forces of the United States and cobelligerent nations for extraordinary heroism in action against an armed enemy. The unit must have accomplished its mission under such extremely difficult and hazardous conditions to set it apart from and above other units participating in the same campaign. The degree of heroism required is the same as that which would be required for award of a Navy Cross to an individual."
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Originally posted by Nilsen
Is this a good citation? I mean.. is it high up on the list of citations?
Nilsen,
The PUC is a very big deal.
15 or 20 years from now when you can read about it in great detail in a book, you'll be very impressed with your Countrymen.
Mike/wulfie
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My father in law got one for anti-submarine warfare in 42/43. He was in VB93/107, flying PB4Y1s; his plane sank 2 subs. He was radioman/crown gunner.
It was something he was proud of right up until he died in August of last year.
Tom
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Originally posted by wulfie
Nilsen,
The PUC is a very big deal.
15 or 20 years from now when you can read about it in great detail in a book, you'll be very impressed with your Countrymen.
Mike/wulfie
Nice.
Why in 15 to 20 years?
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Originally posted by Nilsen
Nice.
Why in 15 to 20 years?
Declassification of after-action reports, and guys who were directly involved getting 'out of the business' and either being interviewed or writing a book so you'll have some more detailed first-hand accounts.
Mike/wulfie
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ok.
Not gonna happen tho cause what these units do are never declassified and made public. By these units im talking about MJK and HJK.
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Originally posted by Nilsen
ok.
Not gonna happen tho cause what these units do are never declassified and made public. By these units im talking about MJK and HJK.
I think it will come out eventually. The story of what your guys did may not be told by one of your guys personally, but it will be told. It's guranteed that more than one military historian is itching to write a book giving a detailed account of what went down in Afghanistan.
Also, your guys cannot handle Bacardi 151. A little 'Pink Label and Coke' and they are babbling like a Joan Rivers talk show. American girls go crazy over their arctic underwear however. Lucky Bastards. :)
Mike/wulfie
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LOL :D
You tried the undies?
Maybe the story will come out from somewere but never anything official. Stuff that happended in the 60's are still kept within the units.
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Originally posted by Nilsen
LOL :D
You tried the undies?
Maybe the story will come out from somewere but never anything official. Stuff that happended in the 60's are still kept within the units.
You'll get to read about it in detail eventually. They were part of a U.S. 'led' (administratively) TF. All the after-action reports are on file with the U.S. DoD somewhere.
One of my best Friends is at a unit that 'cross-trains' with your HJK and MJK (i.e. they swap guys on a scheduled basis). I was at a party at his house with him, some of our guys, and a detatchment of your guys. All I will say in the open is that by the time the sun came up the next morning every girl at the party was addicted to the arctic underwear your guys had. Our guys were really annoyed because for the next 6 months every time the word was put out to the ladies that there was a party coming up they'd ask "Are the Norwegians going to be there?". :)
The story of that party will probably never be told. But the tactical and operational details of what the TF did will eventually come out. Just like today you can read accounts of the MACV-SOG guys that were still 'hush-hush' in the mid-to-late 1980s.
Mike/wulfie
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Great story wulfie. Thx for sharing :)