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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Shuckins on February 09, 2005, 09:34:31 PM
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...in my front yard!
Got a call at work today that a vehicle had left the highway and landed in the trailer my wife uses as a piano studio.
Rushed home to find the following...a brand new humvee with a snazzy camouflage paint job traveling at high speed had left the highway, narrowly missing a trash truck, smashed through our trash bin, scattering trash in every direction like confetti, ripped a metal highway sign free of its base and sending it flying nearly 100 feet, roared through our ditch, crossed the front yard, centered a large sweet-gum tree, and caromed off it, side-swiping the wife's building as it came to a rest.
The police, ambulance, and wrecker were long gone by the time I got there, but ruts, skid marks, and oil covered the front yard. The wife had taken pictures for purposes of insurance. The humvee was so severely damaged that the wheels would no longer turn.
The driver was the wife of a local logging magnate. According to reliable sources, she had had several wrecks prior to this. Luckily, while she sustained some broken ribs, she suffered little else in the way of serious injuries.
If the muddy ground in the ditch had not slowed her down she might have been killed.
Highway 425 through Monticello is a dangerous bit of road. In the last 5 years six people have died in separate accidents in the two mile stretch between my house and the local Crackerbox. People drive like fools on it.
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A real Humvee, or one of those H2 mutant bastard-children?
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Real Humvee...with a perfect v-shaped divit in the engine compartment.
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A real conundrum.
A loving husband, say, with a wife who is a train wreck behind the wheel.
Buy her the biggest, toughest vehicle ever... in order that she may be saved? Knowing full well that your wife behind the wheel of the biggest, toughest vehicle ever poses a potentially grave risk to the community at large.
What would Jesus do?
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He'd forgive her.
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Aye...
The Humvee it is.
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By the way...it was HIS humvee...she had presented it to him as a Christmas present. :rofl
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Sometimes, I wonder if an IQ test is a necessary addition to the License test. Also for voters registration...
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99% of women and about 85% of men have no idea what the strength of a vehicle frame can do. Women simply should not be behind the wheel of a Hummer, I've seen too many more worried about "status symbol" than common sense. Most men and women have no idea what to do when their "SUV, Truck, Texas Limo, etc" begins the "out of control" stage. You should be able to take this broad and stupid husband to the cleaners.
I'm glad your wife is probably just scared, but not hurt.
Karaya
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The fact is that there are millions of people on the road daily who NEVER EVER should get a driving license.
People with bad eyesight, people so dumb they can't find the gas pedal etc.
You can spot these people usually from a couple things: First it's the speed. Either they drive like complete lunatics and crash or they go to a highway to drive 40mph. I mean why don't they choose the rural small roads with 40mph top speed limits? No they go on a highway and force a thousand people to pass them.
Second giveaway is the stiff forward leaned position behind the steering wheel. Their body language screams a total lack of confidence. These people know they can't drive, yet they do.
You can expect anything from drivers like this. Most commonly they will slam the breaks for no apparent reason. Clear empty road - and whoopee let's do an emergency breaking just for the fun of it.
Then when the unfortunate driver behind rear-ends the F**n moron, he ends up paying the bill and yet another accident gets filed in statistics as 'not caused by a woman.'
I'm telling you, rear-endings are 10x more common on women than other drivers.
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Exactly Siaf, people, men or women driving like that make me crazy. Driving 20mph below the speed limit. Ok that's allowed but why not be courteous and get the hell out of the way!:mad: What always gets me really mad though is often the second in line who refuse to pass the slow driver and follow like sheep. As a result there is a huge tailback. In the end I usually get by simply by overtaking four or five at once on a straight stretch. It's maddening. Lately I've taken to getting in front of the slow driver for a mile or two and slowing even more to see how they like it. Soon they're flashing they're lights and freaking out. Amazing.
On the subject of SUV's. When driver's lose control they lose it big. There was an accident here recently when an SUV went wide on a corner crossed the road hit a pole bounced back hit a car and sent it spinning. The driver of the following car, said all she could see was the spinning car. The SUV had vanished. She soon found out, the SUV was airborne and landed on her car killing her husband. Scary to think of it.
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Then when you use your 200+ hp to pass 5-6 cars all at once.. Nice time to drive into a speedtrap huh?
A couple weeks ago when I passed 3 cars that stuck behind a 18-wheeler (driving 15mph below limit naturally) I passed the 3 sedans and positioned between the first sedan and the truck.
The retard had the nerve to play his lights on me even though I didn't even break the speed limit for one second while passing all of them. I wanted to show him the finger but my sunscreen was up and he wasn't worth the push on the button.
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How's your wife's piano?
and I think you should move.
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That happened to me recently. Got stuck behind a twit one night with an unreadable licence plate, a broken tail light doing 20 in a 30 zone and driving erratically. Went past him at the first chance I got only to see the faint outline of a whitish car which turned into traffic car with blue lights parked up the dark road and he had a camera. I may be OK but I'm sure I exceeded the limit passing the moron. So now I'm expecting a letter with a fine and points on my previously clean licence. :mad: I guarantee the fool who cause the problem got off scot free.
On the subject of women, my girlfriend who is a blonde after all :D forgot about a fixed and well signposted GATSO camera with a 50 limit and did 80 through it. The flash woke here up. The best bit is that two weeks later she did it again. :rofl. I haven't stopped laughing since. But someone was looking after her and she only got one fine.
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Maybe she was fixing her bra on the second picture and the pc's considered the fine paid. :lol
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No, she was thinking about me.........aaaw:)
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A Hummer simply should not be on the road full stop. Its a bloody military vehicle designed for the battlefield. What justification is there for driving the damn things on the road please tell me!:rolleyes: :confused:
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There are some things in this world that if they have to be explained some folks just wouldnt understand.
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Explain the need to Drive a Fugging great Military vehicle on the public highway as personal transport then! especialy when the average driver can barely control a family car!
Totaly stupid in my humble opinion.
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What's your definition of an "average" driver?
I'm 20 and I autocross...I can control my car in all situations in any conditions. Is that average? :rolleyes:
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pictures!
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Gonna try to get some pictures posted....but the scanner is old and slow and...in the piano studio.
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Originally posted by texace
What's your definition of an "average" driver?
I'm 20 and I autocross...I can control my car in all situations in any conditions. Is that average? :rolleyes:
Aaaaaaah, your so kewwwwwwwl! :rolleyes:
He means an average person. Not someone who races automobiles.
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Yes, I know, but it was a broad generaization and I wanted clarification. :p
Besides, I don't post to be cool. I'm not one of the "cool" kids. :aok
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(http://www.hotrodscustomstuff.com/Humvee/humvee--00b2.JPG)
Family car? don't make me laugh. you got to be an idiot to want this lump on the street. its lethal to everyone else out there. The height of bloody minded selfish idiocy to drive such a thing.
Leave it to the Army for whom it was designed, fools.
Here endeth the rant!
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Ze juztifikation ist Ahhnold Schwarzenegger. He campaigned for public hummers for quite a while :)
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Zulu,
Who died and made you nanny of the world???? :rolleyes: There are lots of former military vehicles on the road and they do just fine thank you very much. Think old Jeeps. FYI ANY vehicle on the road is a danger to others on the road when mishandled. Just the simple fact of momentum and force makes that the case.
I suppose you want to ban the ownership of former military aircraft as well. After all no one NEEDS a P-51, F4U, FM2, F4F and so on. After all, airshow are just a waste of fuel aren't they.
Come to think of it no one NEEDS a vehicle larger than a volkswagen beetle (old style) so everyone should just get that and forget about freedom of choice of owning anything. Right?
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Originally posted by Zulu7
Explain the need to Drive a Fugging great Military vehicle on the public highway as personal transport then! especialy when the average driver can barely control a family car!
Totaly stupid in my humble opinion.
I am 31, taken courses at MacNeil Rally School, and have utilized a chitload of four wheeling experiences to nhance my driving. What about you, "AAA Driver of the Year Wannabe"?
Btw, the pic posted of the Hummer is a $110,000 H1, if someone wants to fling the bling for it, let em. What about the H2? It's a Hummer based on a Yukon/Tahoe platform, but isn't a "Military Vehicle".
Karaya
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jesus mav, a little offended there?
i almost agree completely with zulu.. whats the point of having an h1? you didnt get it for the gas milage, and it makes a pretty lame suv.. its just the 'cool' factor. i'm not really a fan of the bigger american suvs nowadays because i think that once we start moving towards gasoline-free forms of transportation those things will go the way of the dodo.
its my opinion that owners of suvs should have to take a different drivers license test anyway. most of them (and mostly females) have no idea how to handle such a large vehicle on a public road.
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A lot of people don't know how to handle cars let alone SUV's. Only this morning on the way into work an absolute W**@*@* in a tricked up Honda Civic suddenly realized he was in the wrong lane and turned across me without warning. Only by the grace of ABS brakes and quick reflexes my Golf would have joined him in the driver's seat. Right now they would still be cutting him out of the wreckage. What a prat. If I'd been driving an SUV it would have been all over for him and probably me. I remember seeing a demonstraton on the BBC's Top Gear programme where they swerved a Range Rover at only 40mph. It rolled and rolled and rollled. The high centre of gravity on those things make for a lot of instability.
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Moose a voice of sanity mate.
I don't think its wrong to own ex military vehicles, but driving them to shows now and again or for a rally is one thing. Owning A Humvee because you wan't it for transport is selfish idiocy.
The Nanny state have been trying to get me off my motorcycle for years! So I'm not a nanny just a chap who cares about his fellows and believes in a thing called society.
Cpxxx I know what you mean. Thing is the consequence of someone doing that to me if I'm in a car is an accident and maybe injury.
If i'm on my bike then its certain serious injury possibly death. So it makes me real mad too. Its selfish and stupid behaviour.
Now imagine some idiot doing that same thing in a Humvee! See my point all you uber stupid Hummer drivers )
( oh and a Humvee is rather larger than most SuV's I'd class it as a Truck! )
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
I am 31, taken courses at MacNeil Rally School, and have utilized a chitload of four wheeling experiences to nhance my driving. What about you, "AAA Driver of the Year Wannabe"?
Btw, the pic posted of the Hummer is a $110,000 H1, if someone wants to fling the bling for it, let em. What about the H2? It's a Hummer based on a Yukon/Tahoe platform, but isn't a "Military Vehicle".
Karaya
btw karaya, thats nice for you - but not everyone has done the same. you and texace need to get a hotel tho, seems like you'd get along great :D i dont see what chest thumping has to do with the problem of the average american nutcase behind the wheel of a car they cant control. there are plenty of idiots on the road but those types are twice as dangerous.
my mindset is i see people driving large suvs like the h2, yukon, etc, like they're an m1 and nothing will get in their way going forwards or backwards. a woman in an h1 = pure disaster in waiting. too much of a vehicle i think.
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The average female doesn't even know how to park the car backing up let alone handle a large SUV.
I let my wife to drive a small truck once for shids and giggles.. She damn near cut a tree off the sidewalk and screamed the whole way.
Must have been fun for sidestanders to se e that jumping truck.
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Originally posted by moose
btw karaya, thats nice for you - but not everyone has done the same. you and texace need to get a hotel tho, seems like you'd get along great :D i dont see what chest thumping has to do with the problem of the average american nutcase behind the wheel of a car they cant control. there are plenty of idiots on the road but those types are twice as dangerous.
my mindset is i see people driving large suvs like the h2, yukon, etc, like they're an m1 and nothing will get in their way going forwards or backwards. a woman in an h1 = pure disaster in waiting. too much of a vehicle i think.
Why the insult? Here I am agreeing with your every post and you turncoat? Stop farting in your domicile, the fumes are clouding your brain cells.
Chest thumping? :rofl I was giving all of you a part of my background. Some of you are true.....forget it. It isn't worth it.
Karaya
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THe only good thing about these vehicles is that their size makes them easy to see. If you can spot a choad several miles away it gives you plenty of time to plan your route so you can be as far away from them when the reach you as possible.
SUVs replaced minivans as the "soccer mom" vehicle because they're more powerful and in some respects more roomy. The Ford Excursion and the H2 are prime examples of this. They're not designed to be gas-sippers or "safe" vehicles, but rather tools that can be utilized by people who think they can't live with anything else. They want the large frames to carry all of their brood too and from certian venues and they're so wrapped up in safety that thry think the large vehicle will protect them in an accident.
I drive a Neon...if I get hit by one of these rolling washing machines then I most likely will take the brunt of the impact. I don't mind the small SUVs that can do what's advertised like the Wrangler or the Rubicon. But the H2? The Excursion? These vehicles aren't even designed to go off road...they're people movers and nothing more.
When the ignorant put my life on the line for a bunch of whiney kids and a massive pocketbook it makes me slightly on edge. I've almost been run off the road numerous timse by idiot drivers, and most of them drove SUVs.
I'm 6' 3" and the H2's rear bumper comes up to my waist. That's just too much.
No, there's no justification for driving them other than the "safe" factor people get in them. It doesn't matter if someone else dies as long a they can buff out the ding with a few bucks and their precious children are all right.
We'd better go, officer...Mikey's late for his game.
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Once again heartily agree.:aok
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They could make drivers licenses like pilots licences in that you need a type rating for vehicles over a certain weight.
Similarily, they make you get a special endorsement to drive motorcycles on the road, but not cars. What is more dangerous, a speeding car or a speeding motorcycle?
Varmint
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I think if the speeding car wipes out it is more dangerous to others on the road than the motorcycle if it wipes out.
You are more vulnerable on a bike and most bikers know that. Consequently I honestly think their skill level is generaly higher than most drivers. There are expetions but as a general rule I think it applies. Amongst bikers over here, skill in riding fast but safe is applauded and respected. To be called a good rider is praise.
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cpxxx - which model of Golf do you have? I'm on my third Golf. :cool:
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Originally posted by Maverick
Zulu,
Who died and made you nanny of the world???? :rolleyes: There are lots of former military vehicles on the road and they do just fine thank you very much. Think old Jeeps. FYI ANY vehicle on the road is a danger to others on the road when mishandled. Just the simple fact of momentum and force makes that the case.
I suppose you want to ban the ownership of former military aircraft as well. After all no one NEEDS a P-51, F4U, FM2, F4F and so on. After all, airshow are just a waste of fuel aren't they.
Come to think of it no one NEEDS a vehicle larger than a volkswagen beetle (old style) so everyone should just get that and forget about freedom of choice of owning anything. Right?
First of all, how many former military Jeeps do you see on the road? Have you ever driven one? We had a Korean era MASH ambulance bought for our volunteer fire dept as a Rescue truck. They dont drive well on the street, and any true ex-military vehicle requires extensive modification (by law, in every state I've ever lived in) to license for operation on the street. H1's are NOT ex-military Humvees. Even the original H1 was a civilian version of the military Humvee. Yes it looked identical, but there were a few cosmetic differences and some rather major suspension changes to make it driveable on the street. The H2 is nothing but a Chevrolet Suburban with a look-alike Hummer shell over it (and leather interior, and a built in GPS system, and a stereo...........I could go on).
So to make a long post short, your statement "there are lots of former military vehicles on the road and they do just fine thank you very much," is false. Or maybe you use the Bill Clinton method for defining words. Otherwise, define "lots" for us.
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The H2 is not at all related to the military vehicle referred to as the "Humvee". The H2 is based on the Chevrolet 'Silverado' pickup truck chasis/frame. The only similarities may be the actual tires used.
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Originally posted by StarOfAfrica2
First of all, how many former military Jeeps do you see on the road? Have you ever driven one? We had a Korean era MASH ambulance bought for our volunteer fire dept as a Rescue truck. They dont drive well on the street, and any true ex-military vehicle requires extensive modification (by law, in every state I've ever lived in) to license for operation on the street. H1's are NOT ex-military Humvees. Even the original H1 was a civilian version of the military Humvee. Yes it looked identical, but there were a few cosmetic differences and some rather major suspension changes to make it driveable on the street. The H2 is nothing but a Chevrolet Suburban with a look-alike Hummer shell over it (and leather interior, and a built in GPS system, and a stereo...........I could go on).
So to make a long post short, your statement "there are lots of former military vehicles on the road and they do just fine thank you very much," is false. Or maybe you use the Bill Clinton method for defining words. Otherwise, define "lots" for us.
My dad had a WW2 vintage jeep. There is a Korean War vintage jeep at my Uncle's ranch (in need of some repairs right now). The guy I worked for at Tucson Airport has one himself that he purchased just about a year ago. I also drove several jeeps while in the Army.
What mods are you saying are required for street legal? All 3 of those jeeps were street legal and no "mods" were required for that purpose in Arizona. They all had functional headlights, tail lights, brake lights, turn signals, windshields, wipers and so on that made them legal and they were original equipment.