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Help and Support Forums => Help and Training => Topic started by: Naudet on May 11, 2001, 11:41:00 AM
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I read lephturns article on the elevated gunsights, now i installed one in my D9 and hey, today i managed 2 deflection shoots i would surely have missed with the normal gunsight (lol but it is also able that this was pure luck).
But now i have a question, how does the elevation really effects the ability to lead a tgt? To me it seems that the space between the the convergence point/aiming point and the part of the gun coolings i see, is not larger than with the normal sight. But in some way it must effect the lead ability? Has anybody a diagramm to explain this to me.
Ty in advance
[This message has been edited by Naudet (edited 05-11-2001).]
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At very close to your point of view, the difference is very small. It's really only a few pixels by my measurment. However, at longer ranges where the bogey is, that difference becomes magnified a bit. Still, your not really doing this to expand your range of vision, but to change the angle a bit. Have a look:
(http://lephturn.dnsalias.net/normalsight.bmp)
(http://lephturn.dnsalias.net/raisedsight.bmp)
The difference is perspective. Although the distance between the cowling and the pipper is the same, your point of view has changed. That space below the pipper lets you see farther below your flight path than the default position. You don't pull any more or less lead, your bullets still follow the same path. The difference is that your line of sight is higher so you can pull slightly more lead on your target and still see him.
If you want to really see the difference, take a plane up offline and shoot at drones. First move your head position all the way up. Your aim point will be far above your sight at this point, but it's irrelevent. As you line up behind a drone, throw a few shots at him and notice how high up your screen he is, how much space you can see below him. Now use PageDown to adjust your head position very low, so that you can just barely see your tracers. Notice that if you pull any lead at all in this condition, you can't see your target.
All raising your sight does is move your target up the windscreen, so that your viewing angle lets you see farther below your flight path. You see the same amount of space, you just end up looking forward at a slightly lower angle. The end result is that you can pull more lead and still see your target. It's a small thing, but it helps me make those tracking shots where I'm pulling a couple of G's and leading the target. Granted it's a very small advantage, but one I find usefull
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[This message has been edited by Lephturn (edited 05-12-2001).]
[This message has been edited by Lephturn (edited 05-12-2001).]
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Lep I started using your site a few days ago I see a difference in my guns on sloution is faster now. I am floundering with however in jabo missions, do you have any suggestions?
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Yep, set up a training session with Ripsnort. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) He's really good at the A2G work. I'm sure he can recommend a good sight, and show you how to use it to great effect.
Drop him a line at: ripsnort@aceshighcs.com
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Sean "Lephturn" Conrad - Aces High Chief Trainer
A proud member of the mighty Flying Pigs
http://www.flyingpigs.com
Check out Lephturn's Aerodrome (http://lephturn.webhop.net) for AH articles and training info!
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Is there a way to fine tune your sight adjustments? When I sight in the new sight, the page up/page down buttion jumps your view in steps when you zoom in.
Is there any way to set your view back to the defalt location?
Thanks,
Gunner (CAF)
GunrCAF
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To set your views back to default hit HOME then f10 to save it there again (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
I use the historical F4U sight for jabo. I have the dive angle down now and just put my target between the sight and nose of my plane and release for a good hit. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
S!
Rocket
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Great Idea leph...downloaded sight from article. It's showing as a solid "pink" background...not transparent. From what I recall that should show as transparent in AH....what do I do to correct. I'm running Win millenium , is that the problem??
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Humble, check the properties for the sight, should be 256 color, if it's above or below it will show as a solid pink.
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Originally posted by Rocket:
To set your views back to default hit HOME then f10 to save it there again (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Thanks Rocket! <S>
Gunner <CAF>
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It really makes a difference, after using it now 4 days i am much better at deflection shoots within 500 yrds.
Also i find it much easier now to line up for a high 6 dive attack on the tgt, i can even see relativly fast moving planes and hit them.
ty lephturn for the explanation, i got it now, i also drew a little sheet in my head (hard piece of thinking i can tell u (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)) and now know why it works.
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Lephturn, I was just at your website and tried to d/l your gunsite but ended up getting some garbage on the screen. No d/l screen came up. Is that a problem on my end
or did you kill the link recently.
Thanks
HedBang
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Ooops nevermind, just woke up and figured out what I was doing.
Thanks anyway.
HB
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Hmmm, it should be OK. Let me know if there is a problem with that graphic.
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Sean "Lephturn" Conrad - Aces High Chief Trainer
A proud member of the mighty Flying Pigs
http://www.flyingpigs.com
Check out Lephturn's Aerodrome (http://lephturn.webhop.net) for AH articles and training info!
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Hey Leph,
I noticed that you mentioned in your article that this sight only works on certin planes. What I'm curious is does it work on the Typhoon? I'm glad to see it works on the F4U because I use it alot. But I also use the Tiffy alot too. When I do attack missions I use the P-38. So basically does it work on these 3 planes?
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Where can i get that nice reticule??
I've seen it a dozen of times now, but i cannot download it anywhere.
Greetings,
JG5FaBi.
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Sent it to ya in an email fastbikkil.
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griz
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Pyroman,
Well the sight will work in any plane really, it just is more of an advantage in some planes versus others. You have nothing to lose if you try it though, so give it a try.
Your best bet is just to set it as your default, that's what I do. First in your Aces High sights directory, rename "default.bmp" to "olddefault.bmp". Now right click this link: http://users.andara.com/~sconrad/images/lephturn.bmp (http://users.andara.com/~sconrad/images/lephturn.bmp) and choose "Save target as". Save that file as "default.bmp" in your Aces High\Sights directory. The new sight should now be visible for all planes that do not have specific named sights. Just remember to adjust your head position for each plane the first time you fly it.
GunnerCAF,
I have not found a better way to tune the head position in smaller increments. I have the same problem, and I normally end up setting the sight so that my bullet stream is slightly above the center point. As long as you are prepared for that, it is not a problem. It just means that at 1 G you need to aim at the bottom of the target since your bullets will fly a bit high.
There is a file that tracks your head position for each plane I believe, just a text file. I suppose it would be possible to edit that file and manually change the numbers to place your head exactly where you want it. I haven't sat down and tried to figure that out yet, but it should be possible.
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Sean "Lephturn" Conrad - Aces High Chief Trainer
A proud member of the mighty Flying Pigs http://www.flyingpigs.com (http://www.flyingpigs.com)
Check out Lephturn's Aerodrome (http://lephturn.webhop.net) for AH articles and training info!
[This message has been edited by Lephturn (edited 05-31-2001).]
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For A-A I don't use a sight... I now raise my view as High as I can and still have a decent view, and then fire a coupla rounds to know where my aim point is. Usually this is 1/2 way between the reflector panel and top of the windshield, in the P47's I fly.
3400 rounds helps btw +)
Salvo
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I did try that before, but now that I'm flying the D-11 it just doesn't help much with the Razorback canopy. In the bubble top birds, it can be a significant view heigth advantage. One good way to do it is to sight it in on the top of the sight glass, and then you only have to guess your center point when you first fire. I still find a raised gunsight better for my gunnery overall though.
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Sean "Lephturn" Conrad - Aces High Chief Trainer
A proud member of the mighty Flying Pigs
http://www.flyingpigs.com
Check out Lephturn's Aerodrome (http://lephturn.webhop.net) for AH articles and training info!