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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Yeager on February 11, 2005, 08:47:40 PM
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Is the UK officially part of Europe?
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Basicaly yes.
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Yes.
Although the majority of the public seem to want to remain slightly detached from it, rather than get involved with the european constitiution and (maybe) the euro.
http://europa.eu.int/index_en.htm
(http://europa.eu.int/abc/maps/images/europe.gif)
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Originally posted by Yeager
Is the UK officially part of Europe?
Did you mean the European Union or the European continent? Doesn't matter - it's yes to both. And I'm in that majority that furby talks about. ^
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BTW furby, Your map uses yellow to identify EU member states, but has included the Canary Islands. Now I know that Tenerife etc. are Spanish owned, but last time I went (1994) Tenerife was NOT part of the EU - as many people found out when arriving back at London and passing through customs.
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Originally posted by beet1e
BTW furby, Your map uses yellow to identify EU member states, but has included the Canary Islands. Now I know that Tenerife etc. are Spanish owned, but last time I went (1994) Tenerife was NOT part of the EU - as many people found out when arriving back at London and passing through customs.
just got it off EU website. wouldnt suprise me if they got it wrong.
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isn't england a tiny little wet island?
lazs
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Originally posted by lazs2
isn't england a tiny little wet island?
lazs
England isnt an island
we all drink tea, wear bowler hats and carry umbrellas tho.
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What a question. There are Scots and Welsh as well!!!!!!
If ye think the Whisky is English, ye're in fer a knuckle sandwich!
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Don't forget the Falklands.
They fought to remain in EU.
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Are the people who live on the Islands known as the United Kindom Europeans?
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Originally posted by Angus
If ye think the Whisky is English, ye're in fer a knuckle sandwich!
...or a Glaswegian salute from a guy like this...
(http://www.zen33071.zen.co.uk/blackstuff_02a.jpg)
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i heard that in england they eat baked beans and eggs for breakfast. is this true?
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Originally posted by bigsky
i heard that in england they eat baked beans and eggs for breakfast. is this true?
can do, beans on toast, beans and/or eggs with sausages bacon etc.
Cant beat a full english breakfast to bust the hangover.
http://www.mycookbook.co.uk/article.php?sid=70
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Originally posted by beet1e
BTW furby, Your map uses yellow to identify EU member states, but has included the Canary Islands. Now I know that Tenerife etc. are Spanish owned, but last time I went (1994) Tenerife was NOT part of the EU - as many people found out when arriving back at London and passing through customs.
AFAIK the Canary Islands are EU territory the same they are considered fully a part of Spain, rather than a colony, overseas territory or whatever.
The going through customs thing comes from the Canary Islands having some tax advantages (i.e. goods sold there are exempt from VAT) which make you liable to pay if you bring stuff from there, even if bringing it to mainland Spain.
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Originally posted by takeda
AFAIK the Canary Islands are EU territory the same they are considered fully a part of Spain, rather than a colony, overseas territory or whatever.
The going through customs thing comes from the Canary Islands having some tax advantages (i.e. goods sold there are exempt from VAT) which make you liable to pay if you bring stuff from there, even if bringing it to mainland Spain.
Yes, but being a sovereign dependency of an EU country doesn't make that dependent country part of the EU itself. Same thing would apply to the Falklands.
Yes, VAT is zero in the Canary Islands, and only 7% in Spain - one of the lowest AFAIK. Never realised that Spanish residents would have to declare goods to customs being brought from the Canaries, but I suppose it makes sense.
I remember taking my own car on a trip to Jersey, Channel Islands in 1988 - when I got there, a uniformed lady asked me if I had anything to declare. I didn't know what she was talking about! Took ½ a minute to realise I was being cleared through customs. :o
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Basically yes officially, but like us Irish deep down inside their heads they don't believe it. Because we all say 'We're going to Europe on a holiday' Because Europe is over there somewhere. Years ago there was the famous headline in a British newspaper. 'Fog in English Channel, Continent cut off'. That about sums it up.
The truth is that all the English speaking countries including Australia, New Zealand, USA etc have more in common with each other than most Europeans.
By the way there are some French islands out there in the Pacific which are officially part of France and the EU. Work that one out. I think French Guiana in South America is part of the EU too. I stand to be corrected?
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Originally posted by Furball
can do, beans on toast, beans and/or eggs with sausages bacon etc.
Cant beat a full english breakfast to bust the hangover.
http://www.mycookbook.co.uk/article.php?sid=70
it dont seem very polite to start the the day off by charging up with assfuel.
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UK is officially part of Europe. Europe is a continent and the UK is on that continental plate.
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thanks nexx. Thats what I was wondering.
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Originally posted by cpxxx
Basically yes officially, but like us Irish deep down inside their heads they don't believe it. Because we all say 'We're going to Europe on a holiday' Because Europe is over there somewhere. Years ago there was the famous headline in a British newspaper. 'Fog in English Channel, Continent cut off'. That about sums it up.
The truth is that all the English speaking countries including Australia, New Zealand, USA etc have more in common with each other than most Europeans.
By the way there are some French islands out there in the Pacific which are officially part of France and the EU. Work that one out. I think French Guiana in South America is part of the EU too. I stand to be corrected?
Guyana, in full; "Co-operative Republic of Guyana" is located on the northern seacoast of South America. Guyana, formerly British Guiana, is a member of the Commonwealth of Nations.
The islands you are probably thinking of would be French Polynesia, south and somewhat east of Hawaii (Tahiti, Bora Bora, etc.). They are located in the general area between the Cook Islands and the Pitcairn Islands. They are part of the general Polynesian Triangle stretching from New Zealand to Easter Island and up to Hawaii. French Polynesia is a Territory of France I think. Could be wrong. Also possible what you are thinking of is New Caledonia, which is a French Territory. It is just NE of Austrailia and south of the Solomons and SW of Vanuatu (which is actually Melanesia instead of Polynesia). I have no idea though if either one is part of the EU.
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A quick google brought up the ever reliable CIA factbook and yes French Guiana not Guyana, is part of France and the EU. Strange though it may be.
CIA (http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/fg.html)
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Originally posted by Replicant
UK is officially part of Europe. Europe is a continent and the UK is on that continental plate.
So where does that leave Iceland. Half of it is on the European plate and half on the American plate?
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Originally posted by cpxxx
So where does that leave Iceland. Half of it is on the European plate and half on the American plate?
Iceland is a strange one. Iceland was formed as a result of volcanic activity along a mid ocean ridge - the ridge rises above sea level. It is due to the North American and European continents drifting apart. Iceland however is officially listed as being on the European continental plate.
Here's a map showing 'Europe'. Note that Turkey is not part of Europe!
(http://www.mapsofworld.com/images/europe-outline-map.gif)
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Iceland is not a member of the EU though.
The continental plates basically meet under the country.
I am sitting on it right now.
Side effects are frequent eruptions and earthquakes.
Last proper quake was in 2000, and usually a volcano pops every 2 years or so.
I can see one right out my window:D
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Originally posted by Angus
Iceland is not a member of the EU though.
The continental plates basically meet under the country.
I am sitting on it right now.
Side effects are frequent eruptions and earthquakes.
Last proper quake was in 2000, and usually a volcano pops every 2 years or so.
I can see one right out my window:D
Thought the topic was about Europe and not the EU?
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Originally posted by StarOfAfrica2
Guyana, in full; "Co-operative Republic of Guyana" is located on the northern seacoast of South America. Guyana, formerly British Guiana, is a member of the Commonwealth of Nations.
You are referring to the former british Guyana, not to french Guyana.
The islands you are probably thinking of would be French Polynesia, south and somewhat east of Hawaii (Tahiti, Bora Bora, etc.). They are located in the general area between the Cook Islands and the Pitcairn Islands. They are part of the general Polynesian Triangle stretching from New Zealand to Easter Island and up to Hawaii. French Polynesia is a Territory of France I think. Could be wrong. Also possible what you are thinking of is New Caledonia, which is a French Territory. It is just NE of Austrailia and south of the Solomons and SW of Vanuatu (which is actually Melanesia instead of Polynesia). I have no idea though if either one is part of the EU.
Well, if french Polynesia is called like that... :rolleyes: You have two different kinds of french oversea possessions: DOMs, were the french administration fully applies. These territories are basically mini-Frances oversea, using the Euro, belonging to the EU, etc... the Reunion, Guadeloupe, Martinique, Guyana, Saint Martin, Saint Pierre et Miquelon (basically islands that have been french since the XVIth century) are DOMs. TOMs are more like protectorates, have their own parliament, laws (of course almost similar to the french one), but France is in charge of their diplomatical representation and defense. New Caledonia, the Kerguelen Islands, Wallis & Futuna, french Polynesia are TOMs. And don't belong to the EU, and have their own currency (Franc Pacifique, wich is tied to the Franc (now Euro), like the Franc CFA that is used in the sub-saharian Africa). (http://www.liensutiles.org/domtom2.jpg)
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Originally posted by Cerceuilvolant
You are referring to the former british Guyana, not to french Guyana.
...and there's also the former Dutch Guyana - now Suriname (?)
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Guyana is not in Europe though!
I think people are getting confused with Geographical and Political! Europe is a continent, only countries on this continent are in Europe.
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Originally posted by Replicant
Iceland is a strange one. Iceland was formed as a result of volcanic activity along a mid ocean ridge - the ridge rises above sea level. It is due to the North American and European continents drifting apart. Iceland however is officially listed as being on the European continental plate.
Here's a map showing 'Europe'. Note that Turkey is not part of Europe!
(http://www.mapsofworld.com/images/europe-outline-map.gif)
Actually, a small part of Turkey is in the EU continent and is painted yellow on your map. It borders Greece and Bulgaria...
;)
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Originally posted by Replicant
Guyana is not in Europe though!
I think people are getting confused with Geographical and Political! Europe is a continent, only countries on this continent are in Europe.
Hmmm, yes but the original question was only about whether or not the UK was part of Europe, the thread then evolved into a discussion of what is and is not part of the EU.
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Yep, I think it was originally a misunderstanding concerning Europe and the EU and how many people in the UK don't want to be part of Europe (politically not geographically).
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Originally posted by Angus
Iceland is not a member of the EU though.
The continental plates basically meet under the country.
I am sitting on it right now.
Side effects are frequent eruptions and earthquakes.
Last proper quake was in 2000, and usually a volcano pops every 2 years or so.
I can see one right out my window:D
It's great the way these threads head off on a tangent. I was in Iceland last November. The point where the plates meet is surely a spectacle. Those black cliffs by thingvellir are very forbidding. Not to mention the geysers, the blue lagoon and that waterfall. Definitely worth a second visit. But good grief, the price of everything. 7 Euros for a pint of beer. I've never seen so many sober Paddies in my life, a whole planeload of Irish barely drinking. Surely a first. :rolleyes: On the credit side I discovered that my fiance is definitely of Nordic descent. She looked exactly like many Icelandic women to an amazing degree. Every Icelander we met assumed she was local. Where as I got funny looks and was always addressed in English. She is definitely a 'Dottir' from way back. Her name actually means 'Viking'. So she was going home in a way.
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Actually, a small part of Turkey is in the EU continent and is painted yellow on your map. It borders Greece and Bulgaria...
That's because large parts of Turkey used to be parts of Greece. The turks took most of thier shoreline from the greeks.
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Hey, cpxxx, next time, you stop for coffe!!!!
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Is the Europe using the Euro dollar yet ? Or was that just a dream ?
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The Euro is used by many European countries by now, the biggest one not using it being Britain.
So, there is no Deutch mark, no Frank, etc.
In the beginning it was roughly the equivalent of a US $, today it's about 50% higher.
So, no dream.....
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(http://english.ijsberg.net/greymatter/archives/my-first-euro_3.JPG)
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Thanks.