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Title: Dresden, 60 years ago...
Post by: Angus on February 14, 2005, 07:45:39 AM
60 years ago now

(http://timewitnesses.org/images/dresden.jpg)
Title: Dresden, 60 years ago...
Post by: Angus on February 14, 2005, 07:47:16 AM
Ugly.
(http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,434434,00.jpg)
Title: Dresden, 60 years ago...
Post by: Angus on February 14, 2005, 07:57:05 AM
Big article at

http://www.airforcehistory.hq.af.mil/PopTopics/dresden.htm

and

http://www.answers.com/topic/bombing-of-dresden-in-world-war-ii
Title: Dresden, 60 years ago...
Post by: Saintaw on February 14, 2005, 08:03:49 AM
Apparently, some people are not ready to "forget".

IHT Linkenstein (http://www.iht.com/articles/2005/02/13/news/dresden.html)
Title: Dresden, 60 years ago...
Post by: john9001 on February 14, 2005, 10:03:35 AM
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Title: Dresden, 60 years ago...
Post by: Saintaw on February 14, 2005, 10:24:41 AM
Sorry GS, I chose that word because I am lacking the vocabulary.

Article title says: 3,000 neo-Nazis march in Dresden.
Title: Dresden, 60 years ago...
Post by: Holden McGroin on February 14, 2005, 11:03:39 AM
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Originally posted by GScholz
We should never forget ... anything.


I remember my phone number from 3 houses ago.  Why should I remember that?
Title: Dresden, 60 years ago...
Post by: Redwing on February 14, 2005, 11:05:24 AM
yup
i'd rather have them be allowed to march and spout their bull**** than have my government attempt to ban their party. They've got a right to voice their totally shrecked up opinions just as everyone else has.

Banning and censoring both are way more dangerous to a democracy than these guys will ever be. The only thing the feeble attempts to get rid of the symptom of having these guys be allowed to assemble freely will achieve is a growing public attention towards them that's both undeserved and unnecessary.
Title: Dresden, 60 years ago...
Post by: Yeager on February 14, 2005, 11:33:51 AM
why cant we all just get along?
Title: Dresden, 60 years ago...
Post by: airguard on February 14, 2005, 11:55:09 AM
In this post most of us do :)




Edit : and ignore all of you exept mr. SAW :)

(swithcing subject just aimed to you . What happend with the forum page ? it reads a database error when i try too open it)
Title: Dresden, 60 years ago...
Post by: Holden McGroin on February 14, 2005, 12:04:29 PM
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Originally posted by GScholz
As a remider to get the phone number moved with the house next time. ;)


I forgot to do that.
Title: Dresden, 60 years ago...
Post by: Holden McGroin on February 14, 2005, 12:57:09 PM
What was it I was to never do?
Title: Dresden, 60 years ago...
Post by: Yeager on February 14, 2005, 01:06:11 PM
What was it he was supposed to not forget?
Title: Dresden, 60 years ago...
Post by: airguard on February 14, 2005, 02:34:53 PM
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
I remember my phone number from 3 houses ago.  Why should I remember that?

well said , its irevellant for this issue isnt it Wleely wllel?
Title: Dresden, 60 years ago...
Post by: Saintaw on February 14, 2005, 02:45:56 PM
No idea Guardy, I think Messy broke it, hehe
Title: Dresden, 60 years ago...
Post by: Holden McGroin on February 14, 2005, 03:56:32 PM
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Originally posted by airguard
well said , its irevellant for this issue isnt it Wleely wllel?


You're right, it is irrelevant. I apoligize for going astray.  I should have stayed on the subject of the thread.  What was it again?
Title: Dresden, 60 years ago...
Post by: airguard on February 14, 2005, 04:26:54 PM
tye was talking about at bomb or somthing ? or was was that more than 4  bombs ? I am sleepy dont remember, you tell me. ?

Edit:(irony) happens here too. :(
Title: Dresden, 60 years ago...
Post by: Angus on February 14, 2005, 05:42:41 PM
From Scholzie:
"The Nazis will always march, and they should always be allowed to do so. Let them show everybody what pathetic morons they are, and de-mystify the little "cult" thing they've got going."

Hmm, I have a problem with this, for so many people just don't see it.
So, bomb them while they're at it :D
Title: Dresden, 60 years ago...
Post by: bunch on February 15, 2005, 05:17:31 AM
For the purpose of historical accuracy, this thread should develop into a massive flamewar.
I will start:

You all suck.
I all rool.
Title: Dresden, 60 years ago...
Post by: Leslie on February 16, 2005, 06:23:38 PM
One time in Geography class I studied Europe.  Professor used to carry a flounder gig to class to intimidate would be disruptors I suppose.  For those of you who don't know what a flounder gig is, it is a stick about three feet long with a spike at the end.

He started up with the Dresden bombing, talking like it was the greatest atrocity ever done in war.  And of course Britain and  the US were the bad guys.  This professor's opinion was not part of the class btw.   I was a non traditional student in my 30s and spoke up and interjected the Nazies had cottage industries manufacturing small arms in houses, specifically the P-38 pistol.  He said that was not a good enough reason to bomb Dresden.  I let him know in no uncertain terms I didn't appreciate his anti American opinion.  He woulda stuck me with that gig if the conversation had continued.  But he gave me an A so he wasn't upset much.  The gig was all about intimidation for the youngsters I guess.

I remember one thing about that class, a beautiful Russian girl from the Honduras was in the seat next to me.  We did pretty well in that class, all things considered.  The professor was practically letting us compare notes during exams because she was smart too, and darn good looking, but she said nothing about Dresden.  I don't think it mattered, everyone moved on just looking at her after that.  In a gentlemanly fashion mind you.

About 6 months later, information surfaced in the news that rocket parts were being manufactured and assembled in those houses.  For the V2 rocket.  That information was 50 years old and never revealed before 1990.




Les
Title: Dresden, 60 years ago...
Post by: Holden McGroin on February 16, 2005, 07:19:27 PM
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Originally posted by Leslie
I remember one thing about that class, a beautiful Russian girl from the Honduras was in the seat next to me.


I once had a beautiful Honduran girl from Russia, but she didn't hold a candle to the Estonian girl from Madagascar I once knew.
Title: Dresden, 60 years ago...
Post by: hawker238 on February 16, 2005, 07:55:26 PM
Haha, I was thinking that too.
Title: Dresden, 60 years ago...
Post by: ramzey on February 17, 2005, 01:40:27 PM
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Originally posted by Leslie


About 6 months later, information surfaced in the news that rocket parts were being manufactured and assembled in those houses.  For the V2 rocket.  That information was 50 years old and never revealed before 1990.
 


source pls
Title: Dresden, 60 years ago...
Post by: Leslie on February 20, 2005, 12:56:26 AM
Ramsey, just take my word for it mate.  I remember hearing it announced on the TV  one time, and haven't heard of it since.  Evidently it was top secret information.  That's what the news man said.




Les
Title: Dresden, 60 years ago...
Post by: ramzey on February 20, 2005, 03:55:48 AM
i heard on tv, iraq has WMD ;)sources, documents, proofs.......
somone heard from somone is not enough
you can be suprised how many bs you can read in US newspapers, news on tv about history, special in news
Title: Dresden, 60 years ago...
Post by: Leslie on February 20, 2005, 04:11:04 AM
Well Ramzey, we ain't talking about  Iraq, we're talking about WWII.  And rockets and such.  Gyroscopes manufactured in houses for V2 rockets.  What the hell would you do?





Les
Title: Dresden, 60 years ago...
Post by: ramzey on February 20, 2005, 04:46:55 AM
obvious, bomb them
Title: Dresden, 60 years ago...
Post by: BUG_EAF322 on February 20, 2005, 05:17:14 AM
It was the germans who started bombing civilians anyway.

war suks.
Title: Dresden, 60 years ago...
Post by: Furball on February 20, 2005, 05:39:56 AM
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Originally posted by BUG_EAF322
It was the germans who started bombing civilians anyway.
 


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