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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: meddog on February 16, 2005, 12:27:52 PM
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I'm just wondering what it takes to have high scores in all the various catigories. What is your game play style, tactics and stratagies? If you don't mind me emailing you with some questions please let me know at jshoreatp@comcast.net
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LOL, are you serious?
*snicker*
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BTW JB
I love RUSH
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GHEY love?
gym love?
garden variety idolitry?
do tell.
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lol steve. :D
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Originally posted by meddog
I'm just wondering what it takes to have high scores in all the various catigories. What is your game play style, tactics and stratagies? If you don't mind me emailing you with some questions please let me know at jshoreatp@comcast.net
I sent you an email.
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i finished 6 overall maybe a year ago, and i can tell you how i did it... but i'd have to kill you afterwords
not much has changed since then from what i've seen, but i just dont care to even try to do that stuff. now then only reason i bomb / goon / stuff like that is to help the squad overall.
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Originally posted by nopoop
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my search may be over
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Twenty bucks, I accept paypal
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sounds reasonable, but as JB73's self appointed attorney, i will require that you provide proof of legitimate ownership of said imagery... at which point we will haggle, threaten, browbeat, dance around the issue and treat our secretary to a nooner before finally agreeing that in the spirit of brothership it should be given freely and with goodwill.
88 (esq.)
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not only is he a wannabe score potato, he also quotes himself in his sigline!!!
what-a-dweeb ;) :D
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ignore them Meddog, most of them have a small noodle :p
do whatever floats your boat in AH2.
i think the top 10 rankers should get discounts at walmart.
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lol nopoop wtf
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
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scorewhoring is easier than flying a spitfire
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Originally posted by wetrat
scorewhoring is easier than flying a spitfire
And almost as boring. ;)
Zazen
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nohthing boring about flying the spit.
cant say a 5 on 1 with all your enemies higher and faster is boring.
depends what you're looking for, but i know this subject has been flogged to death and the horse turned into glue years ago....
*slowly walks away from the thread hoping no one follows*
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Originally posted by mechanic
nohthing boring about flying the spit.
cant say a 5 on 1 with all your enemies higher and faster is boring.
depends what you're looking for, but i know this subject has been flogged to death and the horse turned into glue years ago....
*slowly walks away from the thread hoping no one follows*
Different strokes for different folks I guess, I find taking a TnB plane and latching onto a guys six in a merry-go-round boring... ;) No real tactics to it, just bleed his E until you can pull lead, and hope those higher faster guys don't cherry-pick you during the process. Heck a dweebfire doesn't even require good flapwork, just a supple wrist to heave ho on the stick... Hehe
Zazen
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Zazen doesn't know how to fly a Spitfire.
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Originally posted by Karnak
Zazen doesn't know how to fly a Spitfire.
Sure I do...It's not rocket science. ;) If you can't fly a Spitfire you need a new hobby. ;)
Zazen
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I'll quote my CO, SHawk is an opportunist, he vulches and such. Basically taking every opportunity given to him to get a kill. CO could be wrong but i'm going to trust him the only time i've seen SHawk not vulching was when he attacked my B24 where I proceded to shoot him down.
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Originally posted by Zazen13
Sure I do...It's not rocket science. ;) If you can't fly a Spitfire you need a new hobby. ;)
Zazen
Then it sounds like you need a new hobby.
;)
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Originally posted by nirvana
I'll quote my CO, SHawk is an opportunist, he vulches and such. Basically taking every opportunity given to him to get a kill. CO could be wrong but i'm going to trust him the only time i've seen SHawk not vulching was when he attacked my B24 where I proceded to shoot him down.
heh, I have NEVER seen SHawk stand and fight, not even in same plane matchups. Cant begin to recall all of the gun camera films that he was in ;)
That said, SHawk is a decent guy, a vox hog, but a decent guy :)
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Since I returned to AH, I've only seen Shawk type on ch 200 once. He was promising someone he had just vulched that he'd "let them up". Could just be a coincidence though, for all I know he gets his kills in the air combatting numerous foes.
I always considered Shawk a friend, even met him in real life, until I found out he thinks, "Steve is an a**hole."
Apparently, I was mistaken about the friend part.... bummer.
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Perk the D9
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Originally posted by Karnak
Then it sounds like you need a new hobby.
;)
I have one, BBS troll extrordinaire! ;)
Zazen
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:rofl :rofl :rofl
I want rank!
:lol :lol
Help me!
:rofl
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I always considered Shawk a friend, even met him in real life, until I found out he thinks, "Steve is an a**hole."
I always liked SHawk, maybe he thinks I'm a jerk too. Could explain why he doesnt seem to want to talk to me heh.
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Rank this lol>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>12:)
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Originally posted by wetrat
scorewhoring is easier than flying a spitfire
or the L-gay-7
el-gay-7 (mexican version) :)
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Heck a dweebfire doesn't even require good flapwork, just a supple wrist to heave ho on the stick... Hehe
LOL ... You would then last no more than 20 seconds. I am being generous and giving you the benefit of the doubt that you are a good flyer.
;)
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Originally posted by Zazen13
I have one, BBS troll extrordinaire! ;)
Zazen
With VERY LONG arms !!!
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Didn't mean to stir up a hornets nest . Sorry SHawk.
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http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=104840&highlight=rank
surprised no one directed you to this yet.
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Shawk isn't a bad flier.. he isn't a great "fighter pilot", but he is effective at what he does.
I've been much more impressed with him on the occasions I've been on the same side as him than I have been flying in the same area as say, Zazen. Flying opposite either of them isn't much fun.
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meddog, one thing you need to keep in mind is that shawk spends about 130 hours ingame each month. Do you have that kind of time?
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Originally posted by Urchin
Shawk isn't a bad flier.. he isn't a great "fighter pilot", but he is effective at what he does.
I've been much more impressed with him on the occasions I've been on the same side as him than I have been flying in the same area as say, Zazen. Flying opposite either of them isn't much fun.
I can only recall being in the same 'area' as you once in an aircraft...I cherry picked ya. ;) I have never seen you on the same side as me, in my 'area' or otherwise. I can understand why flying against me would not be 'fun' I almost feel sorry for the poor bastards I fly against...so it makes sense. Heh
Zazen
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We are going to have something to talk about on vox tonight lol. Shawk will screw around but not in fighter mode. I fly with him ever night and yes he does die. The only time he will pad his score is on bomber i understand because i dislike bombers as much as he does. But i did find him in a IL-2 the other night HOing everthing in sight.
BTW He has been in flight sims almost from the start if you knew him in AW he was always top 10.
steve long time
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LOL ok this is probably going to be a touchy situation so I'll keep the sarcasm to a minimum. I like how Urchin put it. As for the vulching part, if we are trying to take a base and we have a goon coming, its in our best interest to not let anyone take off.
Hi, my name is Howitzer and I'm a vulcher.
I do love the great fights though. I think I would rather go air to air, but like I said, if we are land grabbing, then I don't see anything wrong with it. Shawk is a good guy, and just for the record, I've never heard him say that about you Steve. He always came across as if you guys were friends both in game and real life. I hope you didn't get disinformation.
guys.
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Originally posted by Zazen13
I can only recall being in the same 'area' as you once in an aircraft...I cherry picked ya. ;) I have never seen you on the same side as me, in my 'area' or otherwise. I can understand why flying against me would not be 'fun' I almost feel sorry for the poor bastards I fly against...so it makes sense. Heh
Zazen
Well, we have somewhat different criteria for a "good flight" which is probably why I rarely see you. The only times I've ever seen you is when an area I thought looked promising when I took off turned out to be a wash, i.e. a red bar larger than the green bar, but by the time I got there the green guys overwhelmingly outnumbered the red guys.
To your credit, you are usually chasing someone around, albiet with plenty of help.
On the other hand, I've ended up winging with Shawk quite a few times where it ended up being just us against quite a few reds.
The only thing that leaves me somewhat less than overwhelmed regarding Shawk is he doesn't seem to try to reverse on a bad guy when he loses his initial advantage, he just hauls bellybutton outta there till the bad guy turns around. Granted, that is just my impression on the occasions where I've ended up fighting him. But that isn't exactly unusual in todays MA, so he is probably one of the better 'offensive' sticks flying around.
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Originally posted by Elfie
heh, I have NEVER seen SHawk stand and fight, not even in same plane matchups. Cant begin to recall all of the gun camera films that he was in ;)
That said, SHawk is a decent guy, a vox hog, but a decent guy :)
The other night I ran into him where he had a slight altitude advantage over me, something like 1-1.5k, nothing significant. So as I get within icon range and close to about d2.5 from the merge point, he put his nose down and starts to dive. Since his dive is going to take him under me, I just waited a few seconds, rolled my plane inverted and pulled back on the stick and stitched his plane full of 20mm as he passed under. Text book lead turn on merge for deflection shot. So he starts crying HO when he gets back into the tower. Basically, he whines like Mane but without Mane's talents.
ack-ack
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steve long time
FX, good to see ya.
Shawk is a good guy, and just for the record, I've never heard him say that about you Steve. He always came across as if you guys were friends both in game and real life. I hope you didn't get disinformation.
Howie, my source is reliable. Maybe it was a misunderstanding.
In fact, when I returned to the game and saw the list of old frineds on his squad roster, I was hoping for an invite but he didn't even acknowledge me in the MA, giving credence, perhaps, to what I'd heard. Not the end of the world, but disappointing nonetheless
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Originally posted by Steve
I always considered Shawk a friend, even met him in real life, until I found out he thinks, "Steve is an a**hole."
Apparently, I was mistaken about the friend part.... bummer.
Hmm, yea, kinda reminds me of some guy named steve in AW flipping out and going on and on for a half hour and calling me a cheesey f**ker on the open channel regarding a cherry picking incident. ;)
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Well, you ARE a cheesy F***ker. :)
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Originally posted by Steve
Well, you ARE a cheesy F***ker. :)
Didnt respond to that ROE thread because.....I dont have any ;)
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in my limited experience which now maybe comes to about 1.5 years in AH, i have only ever found SHawk to be chatty, witty and
generally a good laugh on channel200. He really is a nice guy and i couldnt say a bad word.
on the matter of how he plays, thats basically his choice right?
he flies maybe a little more akin to those we hope to replicate than most of us do-or-die furballers.
to me thats just boring, but obviously 'dogfighting' is boring to some, like Zazen, who prefers to sit in a osti improving his super 1k lead shot, or BnZ some pooor dweeb to death with no chance of being attacked himself.
thats just thier way of playing.
what about this mad man 'wonder'?? all he ever does is spawn camp and shoot 5" guns.
that must be sooo boring, but no, he enjoys it.......so let it be.
i reakon this trhead is testement to how fickle our race is by nature.
heavan forbid we could have left it for shawk to answer Med's questions and be done with it.
aaaa well.
PS: Steve's an A***hole!!!!!! :p
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I'm always confused. Isn't the idea to use a plane's particular strengths? I mean, WTF are you supposed to do in a P-47 if you don't BnZ (assuming bombs and rockets aren't your thing)? I haven't actually started playing AH yet due to a crap machine I'm in the process of replacing, but in the old days if you were a fighter P47 guy... it was pretty much BnZ or High Alt bomber defense/hunting...... both of which seem to label you a dweeb.
:confused:
Woof
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Originally posted by Urchin
Well, we have somewhat different criteria for a "good flight" which is probably why I rarely see you. The only times I've ever seen you is when an area I thought looked promising when I took off turned out to be a wash, i.e. a red bar larger than the green bar, but by the time I got there the green guys overwhelmingly outnumbered the red guys.
To your credit, you are usually chasing someone around, albiet with plenty of help.
On the other hand, I've ended up winging with Shawk quite a few times where it ended up being just us against quite a few reds.
The only thing that leaves me somewhat less than overwhelmed regarding Shawk is he doesn't seem to try to reverse on a bad guy when he loses his initial advantage, he just hauls bellybutton outta there till the bad guy turns around. Granted, that is just my impression on the occasions where I've ended up fighting him. But that isn't exactly unusual in todays MA, so he is probably one of the better 'offensive' sticks flying around.
Generally speaking, I just go where the largest fight is. One of my biggest assets is SA, so the bigger the fight, the bigger my relative advantage. One thing I never do is vulch, so while I may be in an area with some friendlies, I also require a 'big room' in terms of enemies as well, anything less than a 5 kill mission is a partial failure for me no matter what plane I am in, so I require alot of red, especially since I do not vulch...Fly with me sometime Urchin I think you will be suprised at what I actually do as opposed to the popular myth of what I do.
Zazen
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Originally posted by Steve
FX, good to see ya.
Howie, my source is reliable. Maybe it was a misunderstanding.
In fact, when I returned to the game and saw the list of old frineds on his squad roster, I was hoping for an invite but he didn't even acknowledge me in the MA, giving credence, perhaps, to what I'd heard. Not the end of the world, but disappointing nonetheless
Steve,
I've heard of this squad... all a bunch of n00bs anyway :D
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Hehe, I remember shawk coming after me in a grudge match a couple of years ago. He in a Dora, me in a G10. He kept B&Zing me and there was little I could do to get close to him as he was always able to zoom back up to his perch.
Finally his patience wore thin, and he began to take some chances. I blew his wing off, and as he floated back to earth, Docc delivered a hit from the field gun. Shawk's response was to accuse Docc of an HO. :lol I only got an assist because of Docc's shot from the FG, but it was worth it just to see that in the text buffer.
LOL (http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=84622)
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Originally posted by Steve
FX, good to see ya.
Howie, my source is reliable. Maybe it was a misunderstanding.
In fact, when I returned to the game and saw the list of old frineds on his squad roster, I was hoping for an invite but he didn't even acknowledge me in the MA, giving credence, perhaps, to what I'd heard. Not the end of the world, but disappointing nonetheless
Steve, he said it in more a of kidding way, He knows you and I are friends and I don't think he meant it in serious way.
As far a squad invite, I didn't even know you were flying until I saw a post on this BBS. When I saw you online you were in the Muppets.......maybe that's why not invite? I don't know.
It's great to have yo back though and I'll fly with you anytime.
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well there are plenty of threads on how to be a score potato, think rod367th made a good one once.
at any rate as some might guess, many do not base pilot's abilities by what their rank is, sadly most do. i say this because i believe it has to be a driving factor in hoarding, flying straight for vulch with 10 other planes already up, and other general dweebness.
i am not accussing anyone of being a dweeb here btw. many of the older players in this game know who the good sticks are, whether their score reflects this or not is another matter. the problem is that there is little left of the old community and i guess most think that if they are ranked #... everyone will respect them as a great player.
i've seen some of these high ranked players, some are good, some are less than average pilots. if you want to fly for rank is fine by me, but you won't get my respect for having a high rank, bore n zoom, vulching, hoarding etc. when i get in a good fight (not 10 v 1) and am killed because of superior flying, then i respect that person-regardless of score. my only point, it takes more than a good score to impress me.
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Steve I was asking about you a couple of month ago and shawk said that you had stopped playing. I said that you would be a great stick to have back and shawk agreed that it would be fun to have you in the squad. Stalc just came back and has been flying with us allot the past couple of weeks. I still will not forget one day in AW when you changed sides and shot me down 4 times in a row. The first time I was on the can but the other 3 were legit and I could understand. That was back in the day I didn’t loose a 1v1. The next day I asked if anybody had heard of **** and PK said o that’s Steve he changed sides last night. Question answered and I gave you hell for it later on that night.
Also I have never heard shawk talk bad about you and I am on every night. If he did I am sure he was just F around like we do. Hell Hondo/Howi gives me more crap than anyone but I still fly with them lol. Our vox can get bad some nights, if someone that did know us tuned in it would sound like we all were fighting each other.
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Shawk is a very good player at what he does, if you see a 190 just perched waiting for you to make a mistake, then run, it is most likely his buttt, he is good at keeping you out of getting a gun solution on him, he won't furball, he flys his plane to the strength that it is good for.. nothin wrong with that, it is his 15 bucks a month..and like I said, he is good at what he does..
btw : PS: Steve's an A***hole!!!!!!
:rofl
Welcome back :)
NwBie
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Originally posted by beet1e
Hehe, I remember shawk coming after me in a grudge match a couple of years ago. He in a Dora, me in a G10. He kept B&Zing me and there was little I could do to get close to him as he was always able to zoom back up to his perch.
Finally his patience wore thin, and he began to take some chances. I blew his wing off, and as he floated back to earth, Docc delivered a hit from the field gun. Shawk's response was to accuse Docc of an HO. :lol I only got an assist because of Docc's shot from the FG, but it was worth it just to see that in the text buffer.
LOL (http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=84622)
Holy **** Beetle... 1 kill... 2 years ago. And you are still gloating?
You prefer to be addressed as Beetmann, or Hartbeet?
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Urchin, when you fly with such timidity as Beetle, you can count the number of actual fights per year on both hands and feet. How could he not remember this one? :)
-- Todd/Leviathn
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BTW Shawk was in one of the biggest furbal last night for over an hour. I got into some trouble with 5 our 6 tailing me he came down and cleared my six at the deck. When I came back after I landed he was still their at 6k. I think most people don’t really go after 190 that much because of the run factor. It’s hard to find him by himself because we always fly together and WoT is a very large squad. I guess if I lost most of my battles with one person I would be the same way. I think the more other people talk trash about you the better stick you are. This was a legit question and has become something else. If it doesn’t take skills to be #1 and you have more than that person see if you can overtake him.
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Originally posted by SkyWolf
I'm always confused. Isn't the idea to use a plane's particular strengths? I mean, WTF are you supposed to do in a P-47 if you don't BnZ (assuming bombs and rockets aren't your thing)? I haven't actually started playing AH yet due to a crap machine I'm in the process of replacing, but in the old days if you were a fighter P47 guy... it was pretty much BnZ or High Alt bomber defense/hunting...... both of which seem to label you a dweeb.
:confused:
Woof
Exactly, while some planes are decent at more than one particular method the vast majority can either be labeled E-Fighter or Turn-Fighter. For some reason the turn-fighter crowd seems to have the impression that their way is the only way and even someone in an E-Fighter should attempt to turn with them, especially if it's one vs. one. This is rediculous. But, I can't blame them, if I was putting along in a SpitV and a Jug30 was BnZ'ing me I would really want him to get slow with me so I could have a chance to kill him, that's about the only way a slow turnfighter will get an E-FIghter in most situations. Somehow there is the misconception that anyone, regardless of plane match-up who refuses to get low and slow with a turning plane is cowardly. I contend that those in E-Fighters that maintain their discipline and advantage and refuse to get sucked in to the slow TnB plane's low-speed, tight turning radii trap are the purists. The first instinct of a newbie is to just get target fixated and follow their target around no matter what the situation, not many have the discipline to do otherwise even if it's most prudent to do so.
The most successfull pilots are those who intimately know the strengths and weaknesses of their ride and exploit those strengths to the maximum while at the same time minimizing the impact of the aircraft's weaknesses. I'm not saying, someone couldn't put 50% gas in an E-Fighter and hold their own in the odd turn fight, just that to do so under normal circumstances is usually an excercise in futility and an express trip to the tower against the pure turnfighters.
E-fighting is just as valid a technique as any other, in terms of the historical record it was actually the much preferred method of dispatching the enemy for survival reasons. In Ah2, E-Fighters are not only less manueverable, but are typically far more fuel laden, have much larger and heavier weapon packages and loadouts and take far longer to re-alt. So, E-fighters are actually, usually even more disadvantaged in the TNB game as they would appear just by looking at the base flight characteristics. There's very few instances I would be willing to blow alot of my time-consuming altitude for merely just one kill. Entirely different story for someone who just upped a SPit5 with 50% gas and a small ammoload near their own field.
Zazen
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If I am flying an E fighter, I have absolutely NO problems turn fighting another E fighter. If I am flying a TnB fighter I have absolutely NO problems with E fighters NOT turning. I'll just pull a lag displacement roll on the E fighter and if I miss my shot, I'll laugh as they run away. If I dont miss my shot, I'll still laugh ;)
Btw, I still want Levi in the DA ;)
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I think there is a good point behind what Elfie said. I will usually fight these days, not just BnZ. I find that if I go above 10K it is normally an anomally. However, there are times where I'll engage one guy (say I'm in a tiffie) shoot him down, have a good head of speed, then have a spit come down on me about 1.0 out. I will extend in this situation, probably to the point where I can use my E to my advantage or he loses interest. Now, that may be a poor thing to do, but in that situation I can't seem to find ways to get back my advantage because as soon as I reverse, we are now in a turn fight and he should have me no problem.
I have been learning to keep my E better in those situations, but I'm still way far away from where I need to be..
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I'm not saying, someone couldn't put 50% gas in an E-Fighter and hold their own in the odd turn fight, just that to do so under normal circumstances is usually an excercise in futility and an express trip to the tower against the pure turnfighters.
OMG !!!! not a trip to the tower !!!!! ... OH THE HORROR !!!
Forget the fact that if you push the evelope you might learn something new, at the cost of
.... it's so hard to say ... a virtual DEATH !!! ...
there I said it. Boy I feel better now.
Nothing better than taking a P-47-D25 and running into a brazen N1K co-alt co-E or an unsuspecting Spit that is typically waiting for the BnZ and then has to deal with a Jug that just turned the tables so quick that he doesn't have a chance to take a breath before 8 .50 cals slice him up into nothing more than a pile of gooey flesh.
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perhaps a game where if you died, you were exposed to a brief "life reducing" flash of radiation.
hmmmm.
"if you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a ball."
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Well not to be to harsh, but, WTF is the problem with a guy asking how to play the game? Like it or not, scoring is a part of this game. Scores are posted on the creator of this game's website. Rank is listed by everyones name on the roster. Many choose to play only to fight air to air and that is they're choice. Some want only to be in GV's, that is they're choice. Then some try to work on scores, either in fighter or bomber or gv. then some like to play this game to increase rank, THAT is they're choice. Many times, confidence can be the determining factor in the enjoyment a person gets from participating in a game/hobby. If increasing rank gives a person confidence then more power to them. I think it is extremely Low Class for people to trash a persons accomplishments because they deem them cheesy or "ghey". Some of you guys are so full of you're selves it makes me laugh. And I say to all who do this "F off" and have a nice day! :) meddog, if you want to know some tricks, I will gladly help you sir, and thanks for the inquiry!
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Originally posted by Zazen13
Exactly, while some planes are decent at more than one particular method the vast majority can either be labeled E-Fighter or Turn-Fighter. For some reason the turn-fighter crowd seems to have the impression that their way is the only way and even someone in an E-Fighter should attempt to turn with them, especially if it's one vs. one. This is rediculous. But, I can't blame them, if I was putting along in a SpitV and a Jug30 was BnZ'ing me I would really want him to get slow with me so I could have a chance to kill him, that's about the only way a slow turnfighter will get an E-FIghter in most situations. Somehow there is the misconception that anyone, regardless of plane match-up who refuses to get low and slow with a turning plane is cowardly. I contend that those in E-Fighters that maintain their discipline and advantage and refuse to get sucked in to the slow TnB plane's low-speed, tight turning radii trap are the purists.
Ding!
Excellent post, Zazen13 - I agree 200%. :aok
I remember upping a P47 (D25 or D30) to go buff hunting. I had intelligence that LANC formations were attacking our HQ. I got to about 15K/20K, and sure enough - there they were. The Jug is much better at high alt than low alt, and I felt I was doing what the Jug was designed to do (although Gabreski's victims in WW2 were all 109/190/110 IIRC).
Of course, the very fact that I'd climbed above 6K would make me a dweeb in the eyes of the furballer. They would whine about their radar being knocked out, but would do nothing to defend it, except (you guessed it) whine to HTC to have the game changed. :rolleyes:
As for "learning something" - oh puleeeze... AH2 was a huge step forward IMO, but I saw plenty of films in AH1 of planes doing impossible stuff, and making impossible (800yd+) shots. The only thing you're going to learn is how a particular game simulates RL WW2.
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Our vox can get bad some nights, if someone that did know us tuned in it would sound like we all were fighting each other.
Were you around when Manx and GBaLL were still running the 4 Wing? 441 Silver Fox and 416 Linx...
Now THAT was a vox channel. 141... At times the scroll bar would be so long you wouldnt bothter to check to see who was on. You'd just yell out and see if they were there. We had way too many people on a single channel. A good 25% of them were from other squads who came to hang out with us.
It was quite fun back in those days. All winging up. All in fighters we knew best. At times there would be 25-30+ planes all working together to bring down the house. It was a horde but a well oiled one at that. And when Shawk or Manx started drinking, watermelon got WAY out of control.. Both on Chan 1 and on our own Vox. Those were some good times indeed.
And for anyone who has anythign to say about how shawk fly's. I know how he flyes. And like nwbie said. He knows his ride. The D9. And he uses its strengths... Every last bit. There is only a few people in this game who I would want to wing with and would trust to be there when I needed my wingman. Shawk is one of them.
Steve's good too. But he's just a dweeb. :D
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Originally posted by SlapShot
Forget the fact that if you push the evelope you might learn something new, at the cost of
.... it's so hard to say ... a virtual DEATH !!! ...
there I said it. Boy I feel better now.
Nothing better than taking a P-47-D25 and running into a brazen N1K co-alt co-E or an unsuspecting Spit that is typically waiting for the BnZ and then has to deal with a Jug that just turned the tables so quick that he doesn't have a chance to take a breath before 8 .50 cals slice him up into nothing more than a pile of gooey flesh.
The D-11 is even better for that. The D-11 will out turn many many planes if you bother to take a risk and slow down and get flaps out.
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Originally posted by Elfie
If I am flying an E fighter, I have absolutely NO problems turn fighting another E fighter. If I am flying a TnB fighter I have absolutely NO problems with E fighters NOT turning. I'll just pull a lag displacement roll on the E fighter and if I miss my shot, I'll laugh as they run away. If I dont miss my shot, I'll still laugh ;)
Btw, I still want Levi in the DA ;)
As I said in the previous post even E-fighters turnfighting other E-fighters is not as simple as it sounds, E-Fighters typically carry large fuel and ammoloads for a good portion of the hop. If the E-fighter you choose to turnfight has half your ammoload, lighter weapons and 1/4 your fuel-load you are screwed pretty much. For turnfighters the disparity in loadout is generally minimal, so is the impact on the fight.
Zazen
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Originally posted by SlapShot
I'm not saying, someone couldn't put 50% gas in an E-Fighter and hold their own in the odd turn fight, just that to do so under normal circumstances is usually an excercise in futility and an express trip to the tower against the pure turnfighters.
OMG !!!! not a trip to the tower !!!!! ... OH THE HORROR !!!
Forget the fact that if you push the evelope you might learn something new, at the cost of
.... it's so hard to say ... a virtual DEATH !!! ...
there I said it. Boy I feel better now.
Nothing better than taking a P-47-D25 and running into a brazen N1K co-alt co-E or an unsuspecting Spit that is typically waiting for the BnZ and then has to deal with a Jug that just turned the tables so quick that he doesn't have a chance to take a breath before 8 .50 cals slice him up into nothing more than a pile of gooey flesh.
For everytime that happens he pulls hard into your face and sprays Ho5 rounds getting a golden BB that knocks out your engine and wastes 20 minutes of your life you'll never get back. I'm not saying you cannot enjoy success turnfighting in E fighters against turnfighters, I'm just saying in the long run it's just not worth it usually. Better to exploit an energy advantage, hang em out to dry and pop their cherries in the E fighting style as the aircraft was designed to do.
Zazen
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In regards to Shawk's rank: It is my personal opinion that he works hard at it to p*ss people off. Rank-dweeb, score-potato, and all of the colorful descriptive phrases for having a low rank always get a good laugh out of him on the squad channel.
Regarding his skill, my sentiments were similar to some of those already expressed- hunstang/runner/dorka pielut/vulcher etc. I thought he was a decent pilot (high side of average) until I flew with his squad for a bit. Now, my view is very close to Morph's. I've flown with a lot of people under quite a few IDs, and Shawk is certainly one of my favorite wingmen. The idea that he just vulches and just runs is foolish and ill-formed.
As for Steve: A**hole is apparently the WoT's equivalent of 'Sir'. It appears to be a term of endearment at the very least (I hope so anyway, otherwise I may get offended :mad: )
cheers,
hub
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Shawk is not a vulching 190 dweeb, I think some of you must have somehow confused him with pacerr. He flies the Dora like it should be flown and I have no problem with that. And yes, he is a great guy to have winging with you.
Maybe if Pyro adjusts the Doras FM to make it turn better than the A series I'll start giving him sh*t about how he flies. But in the crate he inhabits now, I'm not gonna do it.
:D
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Originally posted by Zazen13
As I said in the previous post even E-fighters turnfighting other E-fighters is not as simple as it sounds, E-Fighters typically carry large fuel and ammoloads for a good portion of the hop. If the E-fighter you choose to turnfight has half your ammoload, lighter weapons and 1/4 your fuel-load you are screwed pretty much. For turnfighters the disparity in loadout is generally minimal, so is the impact on the fight.
Zazen
I disagree with all of that :)
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LMAO hub, you live in "scenic Indiana"
HAhahahahhahaa
:rofl
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Holy Crap, A Whole thread dedicated to lil ole me.
Meddog, I can tell you almost anything you you would ever want to know on decreasing your rank. It's really not all that tough.
Usually I limit a couple runs a night (usually after things have died down a little) to either advancing or recovering from losses.
After that, it does get boring.
Steve, I'm sure I've called you an A**hole more than once, but always in a loving way:D Heck, when I met your wife she even said you were. LOL
As for acknowleging you when you come back, I'm sure I did. But amongst the 200 others talking to you, you may have missed it.
As for a Squad Invite, Hmmmm do you really want to fly with us???? We're just a bunch of Dweebs. We'd probably just piss you off or Vice Versa. But hey, you say the word, You know I won't turn you away.
Urchin, For a Second there I almost thought you were complimenting me, Whew!! Scared the crap outta me:eek:
Elfie, Yeah Your a jerk:p But I don't ever recall Not talking to you on purpose. As a Matter of fact I recall a rather long conversation not to long ago concerning joystick setting or something like that.
Ah and AKAK, ROFL just call him a HO and he'll whine on 200 for an hour. Never in my life have I seen someone as high on himself.
Del invited him to a Real Plane ride and he didn't even take him up on it. Whats wrong AKAK? afraid you might have to use an airsick bag in a real plane?
Beetle is Still Alive?:rofl I figured he'd been overcome by his Ego or his timidness.
As for anyone who says they never vulch? Hahahahhalololololol
Yeah right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hey if you dumb enough to up a capped field. I'm definately dumb enough to shoot ya.
My wingies or squaddies, Hmm what can I say about them. Biggest bunch of keel stealin, bait using, Crap givin, Vox Hoggin dweebs I ever met. Love em all! Rule #1 in my Squad: Have Fun!
Rule#2: see Rule #1
And Lastly, Morph....I need a Hug:D
Later, SHawk
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Lol, ok hub, shawk and crew... thanks for setting me straight.
My wife said I'm an a**hole? Scott, I'm glad you met her on a good day.
:D
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Stang? Who dat? some newb?
:D
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actually SHawk makes everyone in the squad be bait for him once a nite :D
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Originally posted by SHawk
Del invited him to a Real Plane ride and he didn't even take him up on it. Whats wrong AKAK? afraid you might have to use an airsick bag in a real plane?
Later, SHawk
Actually, working an average of 6 days a week, 10-13 hours a day kind of prevents me from doing anything. Whatever days off I have are during the week, not weekends. Crappy work hours but that's the price you pay for working in the gaming industry.
ack-ack
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I disagree with all of that
Well.... it sounds pretty logical to me. I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. You can go ahead and be wrong... we'll continue to be right. ;)
Woof:lol
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Originally posted by SHawk
Beetle is Still Alive?:rofl I figured he'd been overcome by his Ego or his timidness.
No such word as "timidness" - it's timidity - so I guess I was overcome by the ego instead! ;)
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Originally posted by SHawk
Steve, I'm sure I've called you an A**hole more than once, but always in a loving way:D Heck, when I met your wife she even said you were. LOL
:rofl
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Originally posted by SHawk
Urchin, For a Second there I almost thought you were complimenting me, Whew!! Scared the crap outta me:eek:
Later, SHawk
Well, it was kind of a backhanded compliment, but it was a compliment.
Our flying styles are somewhat different, but you are good at what you do. And more importantly, you aren't in here spouting off about what a great stick you are, which I respect.
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Originally posted by Elfie
I disagree with all of that :)
Ok, that's your prerogative, have a nice day. ;)
Zazen
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I have been able to be in the top 10....and with more effort could do better, but it's a pain :)
Check the score sheets...be sure to have scores for everything.....base captures, and, worst of all, the dreaded vehicle bombing percentage....something not always REAL easy to get.
Oddly, you don't have to be real good to have a low rank, just persistent and dedicated to each vehicle type and mission.
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Its in the name...
I have winged with him for over 2 years...All I have to say is he has respect for the Good pilots....and can beat most of them in the game.
Me on the other I hate you all....:)
And love to kill more..
The D-9 ism NOT A TURN Fighter..You turnin dweebs that call a guy flyin a D-9 a runner then CRY after being picked..Oh well learn some skill..like E-management..
Oh well some might say take the Log out of your own Eye..before trying to pick the speck from anothers...:)
Kamori
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Originally posted by kamori
The D-9 ism NOT A TURN Fighter..You turnin dweebs that call a guy flyin a D-9 a runner then CRY after being picked..Oh well learn some skill..like E-management..
Kamori
Yup, it would be kind of like an E-fighter pilot crying on 200 because some guy in a SPit5 had the sheer audacity to....turn!! OMFG!! ;)
Zazen
P.S. I have never, not once, ever in my 12'ish years at this heard an E-fighter type piss n' moan about a TnB guy turning, on the other hand the cryin' from the TnB types about E-fighters..E-fighting is always a deafening roar...I think there's some unresolved frustration issues in the TnB camp. ;)
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Originally posted by Zazen13
I think there's some unresolved frustration issues in the TnB camp. ;)
If you've ever tried to chase down P 51s in a Hurricane, you'd know exactly what's wrong. :p
Cheers,
hub
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Originally posted by hubsonfire
If you've ever tried to chase down P 51s in a Hurricane, you'd know exactly what's wrong. :p
Cheers,
hub
Oh, I know why they're frustrated, but they deserve to be, planes evolved to become faster and faster, not more nimble...If you're in a slow plane you'd better learn to love watching the wiggling tail of your opponent leaving you in the dust....If watching that really pisses you off and you refuse to fly a faster plane, you need psychiatric help...
Zazen
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Please take away the quote button from Zazen....
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That can be arranged, but it will cost you 20 bucks..
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Oh, I know why they're frustrated, but they deserve to be, planes evolved to become faster and faster, not more nimble...If you're in a slow plane you'd better learn to love watching the wiggling tail of your opponent leaving you in the dust....If watching that really pisses you off and you refuse to fly a faster plane, you need psychiatric help...
And isnt this the reason the la7 is such a good plane to catch the E fighters who dont know what to do "after" they run (chuckle)
many of my kills are "E" fighters who run!
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Originally posted by Hammy
And isnt this the reason the la7 is such a good plane to catch the E fighters who dont know what to do "after" they run (chuckle)
many of my kills are "E" fighters who run!
Yup, that's Shane's purported reason for flying it as well. It's probably the only decent reason that's acceptable for flying the Lgay7 crutch...
Zazen
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I flew the La-Cheesy last night after a pair of Mustangs kept trying to joust with my Hurri. I bagged Outkasts coalt Hellcat omw to the area the Mustangs had been in. By the time I got back to the base the Mustangs had been harrassing, the base had changed hands and was almost capped. Talk about a vulch-fest!! :rofl Bomber formations were upping faster than we could shoot them. I bagged 6 in one pass!! :rofl I ended up landing 11 vulches and 1 air kill and had 17 rounds to spare heh. Never did find those Mustangs again though ;)
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SHawk the conversation wasnt that long, but it was about the Saitex X45 sticking and what lube, if any you used. Tryed to talk to you a few other times also, but got no answer :)
As far as being a jerk? You just don't know me very well :)
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This thread is getting mushy...Group Hug! :eek: