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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Zulu7 on February 17, 2005, 01:25:06 PM
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If so sign in guys?
What have you got?
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I owned a Kawasaki Kz 400 when I was 16 and a Honda CB 900F when I was 18 until I was 27. Then I sold it and have not ridden since.
Don't miss the rain and bugs and snow squalls and crazy drivers who cut me off. Miss the friendly waves with other bikers, giving the girlfriends a ride on the back, the acceleration, the cost of filling the tank and the fun of the first glorious ride in the spring after a long winter.
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Come back to two wheels. plenty do and look at all the advantages you listed. Theres four disadvantages to your five advantages. On balance the reason to ride a bike outweighs the reason not to.
The CB900F was a good bike though the camchain was a bit crap on Hondas back then. I had a CB250 and a CBX 550, probably similar vintage both used to eat cam chains.
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at 17: Honda C90 (Wilma).
at 18: Kawasaki AR80 (Karen).
at 19: Suzuki RGV250 (Susie).
at 20: Honda CBR600F race fettled, not road legal (Dunno).
at 21: Crashed the CBR at Pembury and picked up a titanium pin to hold my elbow together.
at 22: Kawasaki ZXR400L3 (Megan).
at 26: Yamaha YZF-R6 (Winnie).
at 30: Suzuki GSX-R600 (Charlotte, but she prefers Charlie).
The C90 was a wreck but I made money on it. The AR80 was thrashed out by the time I finished with it. The RGV blew up. Twice. And then the gear box seized. The CBR wasn't actually mine, I just crashed it. I loved that ZXR, her name was Megan and she was the sexiest bike ever to be created, some Dutch bastard stole her. The R6 has gotta be the best sports bike for distance work ever, I'd ride from Bristol to Amsterdam in one trip and still be able to walk at the other end, some Dutch bastard stole her as well. The Gixer is the most uncomfortable bike I've ever known, 50 miles is enough to make ya wanna ride direct to the chiropractor.......but damn it's a fun trip.
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P.S. And yes, you have to name your bike.
P.P.S. A sticker on the back of my lid reads "Passengers are requested to refrain from screaming". Um....just thought I'd share that.
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93 Yamaha FZR. Not the fastest thing around but I make up for it by wearing out my pucks quick ;)
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My daytona is called "Black Betty" as in Woah Black Betty Ram a lam ( or words to that effect.)
Ok heres my list.
Yam FS1e
Honda CB50
Honda CG125 x 3
Honda CM125
Suzuki GSX 250 (the first black betty)
Honda CB250t
Kawasaki Z250
Yam XJ550
Honda CBX550
Yam XJ600
Kawasaki GPZ600r
Triumph 1200 trophy
Triumph Trident 900
triumph speed triple 900 then became a 1200
Current bike the Daytona 1200
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Age 18 Honda 350 (used for first bike)
age 19 Honda 500 4 cyl
age 21 BMW 750/6 dressed with bags trunk and Windjammer fairing. First bike I drove accross the US in.
age 29 BMW 1000. Bought it used and in need of some work. Dressed it in a Windjammer and bags as well. Drove it across the US 3 times as well as daily driver.
age 39 to present 1990 BMW K75RT.
Those were my personal bikes.
1981 Trained on Moto Guzzi 850 PD model then Kawasaki KZ100P both stripped of fairing and bags.
1981 to 1993 Drove 3 different assigned Kawasaki KZ1000P's numerous other non assigned Kaw's as well until totalling out a Mustang with the last one. Blew out the right wrist and forced retirement in 94.
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Just be sure to sign that organ donor card.
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O ye of little faith.
Actually.......does anyone have any idea how difficult it is to get a life insurance policy that covers riding a bike? Ok, lemme rephrase that, if anyone knows of an insurance company that offers life coverage for bikers.......
I'm an instructor. I conduct CBTs and DAS training. Have I ever lost a student? No. Have I ever thought I was just about to? Oh hell yeah.
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Swoop,
There are 3 kinds of motorcycle riders.
Those that have not crashed yet.
Those that have crashed.
Those that are going to crash again.
Funked, Life is a full contact sport and to date no one has gotten out alive. Donor cards should be standard for anyone who regularly steps outside of their house.
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heh, posted while I was still editing......
I'm the last two in your list. Are there actually that many who fit the bill for choice one?
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First bike was a Kawi 550 Spectre, then got a Honda CBR600.
Most exciting time of my life. Motorcyle camped on both bikes; the CBR was hard on the wrist joints after a couple hours of riding but was sure great in the twisties.
Sold it for the down payment on a bigger house. Ditto habu's sentiments.
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Yep, There are LOTS of newbies out there on their first bike.
BTW I fit the last 2 categories as well.
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I've owned HD's, Trimuphs, Yamahas and Kawasakis but the bike I bought the wife for Christmas is my favorite.
Got her an '04 Suzuki Volusia. I like it enough to buy myself one, delivery will be in 'two weeks'.
If any of ya are interested in a light cruiser you should check out the Volusia, there are lots of mods available for them so you can personalize your scooter.
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I am currently looking at bikes again, I didnt have a car for a long time in school , or in my millitary time I rode Bikes , but that was 20 years ago, I really like the Triumph America, 800 cc and a great looking cruiser, I can't afford a Harley, and metric bikes are ok, any recomendations on the triumph? Yes I have good insurence.:D
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Originally posted by TheflyingElk
any recomendations on the triumph?
Get an oil drip pan :)
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It's all fun and games until someone rips a leg or two off.
lazs
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Thanks Lars, I also have seen pics of the Suzuki M-50 same fuel injected 800cc as the C50
just a slight style difference but same motor and shaft drive as the vollusa, not a bad price only bad thing is not many off the boat yet, have not gotten to see one up close, the dealership here has a C-50 looks like a sweet ride
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Originally posted by lazs2
It's all fun and games until someone rips a leg or two off.
lazs
My wife handles claims for an auto insurance company and I remember one time she described an accident where a motorcycle sideswiped a car, but stayed upright - except the rider was having a difficult time keeping his balance on the bike - that's when he realized his leg had been cut off at the knee.
She also heard about a really nasty one where a pickup truck pulled out in front of a sportbike travelling over 100 mph. The bike and rider were found in many pieces all over the area, and its amazing how far the impact pushed that heavy pickup truck.
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me and my leg went on the stretcher seperately back in '76. It was unpleasant.
lazs
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Why is it every discussion about bikes always degenerates into horror stories about injury?
Yes, I've been on that stretcher. Yep, I used to know bikers who aren't with us anymore.
Yeah ok, it's dangerous. We know. So is skydiving. So is mountain climbing. Do we wanna talk about it all the time? No not really. Do mountain climbers discuss how far the splat would spread? No, they talk about the great view.
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I've found that those people who talk to me about how horribly you can be hurt fall into 2 groups.
1 - Those who secretly want to ride but are too afraid/whipped to get a bike and ride
2- Those who used to ride and lost their nerve either because of an accident or cause they never had any nerve.
This is just people who I've met and I'm not implying anything about anyone here, just voicing observations.
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Too true swoop viperman.
Bikers in my experience talk about their mates who've got only one leg/arm but had the bike adapted so they could still ride. Like my mate Scott who paralysed his right arm at Donnington park. He gets his bikes converted to left hand throttle with the clutch and brake lever over each other. Bloody clever and how he rides I don't know but he does and he's quicker than me.
I usualy hear the horror stories off people who, as you say Vipermann, are too scared to ride or too whipped.
I'm lucky as both me and my girl ride, old clunkers and modern.
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my list..
age 14 Kawasaki 125
age 18 Kawasaki 440
age 20 Honda CB750
age 24 Honda VF1000R
age 29 HD 888 sportster
age 32 Honda Goldwing 1200
age 36 Honda Goldwing 1500
age 42 Kawasaki 1500 clasic & Honda CBR900
and yes i have went down a few times...will again... but I will ride till I die!
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Ever drop a Goldwing Heater?
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Ouch that would be expensive
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Not the expense I'm thinking of.....
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Originally posted by Swoop
Ever drop a Goldwing Heater?
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Nope...came close once....dropped the HD once...forgot to put feet down and the Main Gate and fell over....the SP asked me Sir have you been drinking....my answer was yep just a bit much....they picked me and the bike up took my keys and took me to queue to get a room and sleep it off..... no damage to the bike.
Hi sided the VF1000R at 80mph and slid for 100-200 feet and stood up and walked back to the bike. about $5000. in damage..then next day I was so sore I could not move.
went down on the 750 once or twice also...always with leathers on only injury to me was a broken wrist.
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A couple of small ones, last one was a Honda 125 - rode it to Glastonbury festival where I tried to leap the fence with it like Steve McQueen.
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1994 Honda Magna 750
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Originally posted by TheflyingElk
Thanks Lars, I also have seen pics of the Suzuki M-50 same fuel injected 800cc as the C50
just a slight style difference but same motor and shaft drive as the vollusa, not a bad price only bad thing is not many off the boat yet, have not gotten to see one up close, the dealership here has a C-50 looks like a sweet ride
The Volusia has a retro look that reminds me of a HD softtail. Also, up to the '04's they all were carburated. Makes changing pipes or air filter/hypercharger additions easier < rejetting the carb > than remapping the FI.
My comment about the Triumph and oil leaks was tongue in cheek, had a Bonnyville back in the 70's that leaked like a sive. Something about those virtical twins that would cause the main bearing to self destruct.
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80 Yamaha RX-50 'Midnight Special' (sold)
82 Honda CB-900F (sold)
75 Honda CB-750K (in garage, needs work)
98 Suzuki Bandit 1200 (Active!)
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No ones mentioned Ducati, always like watching and hearing them at Superbike meets but haven't really heard much about them from regular riders, or Moto Guzzi come to think of it. Are Italian bikes a bit crappy?
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Eh...not quite. :)
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Also, here's me at 15, now 18...stil ride this one weekly as its too much damn fun to put up. 2001 XL1200S straight pipes, Screamin' Eagle kit, blahblah. The Ducati now has termi pipes, and some new fairings from when I went down at Barbour Motorsports Park back in October. We also have a black 749, and a Capirossi Edition Monster 620.
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If you want to know anything about italian bikes, please ask. No problems to report of after around 4-5k miles, got it in Jan '04. Some of the 2003's and early 2004 749's had a problem with the way the dealer set it up and it would stall while idling at stop lights, apparently it was a simple dealer fix. I'm fixing to get into some WERA club racing after a few more track days.
First track day of the year is Barbour Motorsports Park and it is on March 18th-19th. Check out http://www.sportbiketracktime.com for information if you want to get out there and have fun on the track, they have a group for every skill level along with highly qualified instructors.
Edit: Sorry for the big pictures, but if you ever get a chance go to to Suches Georgia check this place out; It's called Two Wheels Only and it's a great hangout
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from dirt to street,,i ride alot of diffrent bikes in my time
i right now own a huskavarna 400 2 stroke,,a 1962 harley topper with a 650 motor stuff in it,,hehe<~~thing is crazy ill try to post some picks of it,,i call it the spree eater..part owner in a 1990 harley softtail springer heritage,,and own a 77 iron head 1200
use to own
triumph trident 930
1974 harley175 sx dirt bike,,lol<~~miss that one,,it would get up and go for a harley dirt bike,,lol
125 yamaha enduro
ktm 500 2 stroke
yamaha IT 400
1962 bsa 250 4 stroke induro<~~and the triumph 250
a harley 125 scatt
a old hodaka 100 super rat
bulltaco 250
honda xr 500
440 bsa victor
honda cb 500
few otheres i cant remmeber off the top of my head right now:)
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Street bikes always look better striped and taped. :D
I had a few bikes, the last one was a Suzuki gixer 750. The ones before that were GXS'R's only 1000's. The 1000 was death waiting to happen. WAY too fast for me. I push everything to the limit and my luck at deaths door step with that thing. I thought by getting a 750 I'd slow it down a bit. A little. But the smaller lighter bike meant it was easier to get the thing up on 1 an continue to do stupid things on. I will say I enjoyed the looks on peoples faces on the highway as we'd pass em on 1 wheel at moronic speeds. But I'm sure they were laughing at how stupid we were too.
I had alot of dirt bikes as a kid. And was always running from someone for ripping up or down something I shouldnt have. Had a few go down, all my fault of course, and all of the times I did go down were because I was doing something stupid ofcourse. Luckly I was never hurt, and never... Well I dont want to jinx myself at this point.
I sold the last bike, the 750 to make room and give me some pocket change. I had a good offer and there's always plenty more out there. I'd really like to get a ducati. But I may just wait around for a while for a soft tail. If there are a line of bikes, I'll always walk up to the soft tail first. Dont know what it is about them. Thats right Jackle. A harley. :P
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nice bike nacho,,reminds me alot of my 77 iron head 1200:) one thing i enjoy about my harley on the road,,is the wind!! my triumph 930 was scary in high winds,,lol,it was fast,,but one good gust would put you under a desiel if you wasnt carefull,,my iron head plows threw the wind much better,,lol all that steel i bet:)
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I have owned one harley two hondas and a suzuki. I am currently looking for a new bike but I havn't made up my mind which one. I loved my harley and my goldwing and its hard to fault either one. I am leaning towards the Harley because it holds it's resale value so well.
My favorite trip was back in 1990 when me and three buddies quit our jobs and went cross country for four months. Sturgis, Daytona, Vegas, Reno, Glacier National, Yellowstone, Big Bend National, New Orleans, Crockett, Pacific coast highway, and a list of friends that we still talk too today. I had plans to travel Europe on a bike someday but I probably wont ever get to that run at the rate I am going.
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I am leaning towards the Harley because it holds it's resale value so well.
yup best thing about a harley it only gains value over time,,and the otheres loose value till the day comes that they are rare,,goldwings and vals just drop to nothing,,i got a freind who got a very nice 1500cc goldwing with trailer and everything for 800bucks,,lol
i like the soft tail too,,the one im part owner in,,is my dads,,he needed money for a down payment,,so i gave him 1000 down on it,,he is getting old and i wanna see him have some fun before his time is up,,i know the bike will be mine sooner or later,so no rush,,but i do enjoy riding it:) i think the soft tails are some of the best lookin hogs,,the fatboys are nice all so:aok
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<-------A tad over slightly amused. :rofl
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I knew that last part would bring you out! buahaha!
Seriously though. As much as I raz harley riders and bikes I've got a special place in my heart for them. I'll never forget my dads Harley soft tail that he had for a long time. He used to always bring me for short rides as a youngster. I guess that's why I like them the most over all other hogs.
As cool and as fast street bikes are, there's nothing like a nicely done soft tail roaring down the street.
But you Jackal, you bastige. You CHIGGER!
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15 Kaw KZ100
16 Honda Shadow 500
18 Honda V65 Sabre
24 Honda CBR 600F2
I still own the CBR it has 48K miles on it, all ridden by me. Never been down, raced in the 8th mile many, many times. Hold track record "last I checked" for most runs in a day at 65. Was my work vehicle for 4 years in florida, rain/shine/mild cold..lol No fair weather rider here.
Just got it back running after letting it set for a year. Planning on taking it to bike week in Daytona next month. Anyone else going?
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1970 Honda Trail 70
1974 Yamaha RD250
1975 Honda 500
1979 Suzuki 750E
1982 Harley Davidson FXRS 1000
1994 Harley Davidson FLSTF 1450
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I only had three bikes
Honda CB125N from '80 to '82.
Yamaha RD350LC from '82 t0 '96
and a Yamaha DT175 trail bike which I bought when the LC was stolen. It was recovered so I sold the DT. Later it was stolen again and used in an armed robbery. My bike had an exciting life. My worst accident was on the Honda when I was blown by a gust onto a kerb in Wales and broke my thumb. The joint fused and I can't bend it anymore.
I fell off the others regularly but it never stopped me. The most terrified I ever was on a bike was a Honda VF400 a Brands Hatch racing school bike. I did twenty laps but scared as I was I never slowed down. I went straight on a Druids hairpin once and three times at Surtees, right across the grass. I survived only to fall off the Yamaha on the way back to London in traffic at 5mph on a tiny patch of oil.
I really enjoyed my biking days except for the cold ones. I remember ice forming on my sleeves on night and my knees and toes going numb. Character forming stuff.
I'd buy a bike tomorrow if I had the money to spare. But I suspect I would come to an untimely end with all my reaction times shot to hell.
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I currently own and ride a '05 Electra Glide Standard. Owned a '03 Super Glide that I traded in for the '05.
Rode rice burners for most of my early years riding. Started out riding a 250 Husky dirt bike. Rode several dirt bikes for a few years before switching to street bikes.
First steet bike was a Yamaha 305 Big Bear, second one was a 750 Yamaha four stroke triple, third one was a Yamaha 1100. That third one introduced me to road rash. Went down at 65 mph with the wife on the back. No serious injuries, we were lucky.
I ride solo most of the time now except when I take one of my granddaughters for a spin.
I'm really not into long rides. To me a long ride is a 250 mile round trip. I enjoy shorter rides and don't care for riding with more than a couple or three friends at a time. I do use my scooter to comute to work and back a lot. I find it one of the best stress releivers of all time. I also feel 10 years younger every time I ride it.
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Originally posted by streetstang
But you Jackal, you bastige. You CHIGGER!
:D Chigger Flicker!
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1969 Honda mini trail 50cc
1971 Yamaha mini enduro 60cc
1972 Harley Davidson sprint SX 350cc
1974 Husquavarna 250cr
1975 Hikki Mikola replica Husquavarna 360cc
1976 Maico AW400cc
1980 Yanaha YZ 465cc
1983Yamaha YZ 490cc
1984 Honda 500cr
1985 Honda 500cr
1987 Honda 250cr
1988 Kawasaki KX250
1995 Kawasaki KX500
1999 Kawasaki KX250
2001 Yamaha YZ250
Above are all dirt /motocross bikes below are the street bikes
2001 Yamaha roadstar 1600cc
2001 Honda RC-51 1000cc
One broken wrist
One torn ACL
One open tib fib fracture
Several broken fingers
One broken foot ( crushed meta tarp els)
One broken jaw
8 broken ribs
One bruised aorta
One collapsed Lung
Cracked C3-4-5 on two occasions
Ruptured disc in L5-S1 sacrel area.
And last but not least!!!!!
13 concussions w/ one case of being unconscious for three weeks.
PS are those of you that live in the D-FW area pissed as I am about mosier valley closing down?
I mean that place has so much MX history Wyman Priddy raced there Steve Wise gave me lessons there.
Dennis Hawthorne raced many a races there .
And Jerry Surber the dipchit sells the place to the city of Arlington
so it can be part of the city dump:mad:
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Yep lots of bikers.
Flyingelk triumphs don't leak anymore. They used to have verticaly split crankases which didn't help along with the perenial problem of the pushrod tubes not sealing. my old 1960 tiger 100 still leaks like a sieve but at least its not rusty!!!:lol
All the modern ones I've owned have been super oil tight.
I think Harleys are ok apart from the tractor jibes ( tounge in cheek ) but to me they suit the long open roads of the USA better than our green lanes and twisty back roads. A little bike or a sports bike work better. Says he with a bloody heavy 1200 Daytona. Still the reasoning for that one is the touring in europe I do.
I've been riding 22 years and I've met some of the coolest people, made lifelong freinds and had some fantastic times and would never swap the bike for anything.
Good to see you all in here and that Ducati 999 is luverly!
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Funny pic started me thinking about the real world.
The Japanese spend millions shaving every spare ounce off their sports bikes.
And what do you see but overweight guys in too tight racing suits at biker meets bragging about the carbon titanium this and that that they fitted to lighten the unsprung mass etc.
I always have to resist advising them to spend some money down the gym instead when I'm at bike meets.
Mind you It was always the tiddlers and lightweight bikes I owned that got blown about by trucks etc.
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CBR600F
CBR600F Sport
ZX6R (636)
RGJ
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swoop.... don't get me wrong. I had the bike accident of my 30 year or so biking experiance in '76. I rode for another 10 years.
I fixed the bike myself crawling around draging the bloody cast and learned to kick left legged (still do) extended the peg on the right side and prayed I never had to use the back brake... the front was a Harley drum so about useless..
But... you can't seperate riding from injury. In any group of a dozen or so of us there were allways a few sets of crutches leaning against the walls or funrniture. I didn't quit because of the injuries, I quit because of the regulations and fact that the world was full of little cookie cutter bikes with electric starters and liberated women on em. Wearing a helmet lessens the motorcycle experiance at least 50% for me. Having a bike you can't work on is another 20% the traffic is the clincher.
I rode in all kinds of weatrher but even in California I was either burning up or freezing most of the time. 10% maybe of normal riding is in perfect add type of weather.
and.... you guys look silly as friggin hell on those batmobile looking stupid bikes in your gay neon outfits with all the buckles and goofy star wars helmets with you butt stiking up in the air.
I did like the ducatti my son brought over one day tho.
lazs
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Lazs I agree! dayglo leathers and stuff look bloody ridiculous. wear em on the racetrack by all means but for street riding they are uncomfortable impractical and look way daft!
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As for the comment about liberated women on bikes. I fear you've not met the right one. Or your not open minded enough.
My last wife put up with the bike, but was no lover of it. She always thought it would kill me her etc. Nagged and moaned and begrudged every minute I spent on it.
My current girlfreind, rides well, looks damn fine doing it and shares my love of fast two wheeled things. Is happy to crawl round the garage fixing things and has been all over Europe with me on our bikes. I'm a lucky guy.
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hmm... we agree on something?
Ok... let me continue in this vein of newfound respect and brotherhood by saying that the black color and styling of all the star wars plastic on your trumpet makes it look somewhat less idiotic and embarassing than some of the other star wars bikes do.
lazs
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Yes I can't stand all these plasticy things in bright colours that look like a kindergarten kid painted them. A bike always looks best simple and mean.
(oops I edited so now we disagree too! Can't help it keep thinking of things after I posted )
Done it again. editing time. I might add I usualy strip off as much of the plastic as soon as the resale value has plumeted enough for me not to care or if dropped. My last 1200 trumpet lost its plastic and no doubt this one will at some point.
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hmm.... ok.. I will say that all that plastic looks really really funny. Not "mean" in any sense of the word... Anything on the bike that keeps a man from sitting upright or leaning back needs to be changed.
early brit bikes had a good seating position but were too small a bike to sit comfortably on. Harleys and Indians were about the right size.
lazs
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My last 1200 now for sale as the mileage has crept up and I got a good deal on the current one with ridiculously low milage.
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So you see I'm not a great fan of plastic and stuff. Just waiting as I say to get the new one sorted. Its the engine I like and the patriotic bit of me likes riding a British product.
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your getting closer... Give me a week and I could probly chop it for ya.
lazs
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:lol
Erm no thanks
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Well we agree on the leathers.....mine are gun metal grey (so the salesman told me cos I wouldn't know not being allowed a gun) and black, but let's just agree to disagree about the style of bike.
Nothing wrong with a cruiser, dont get me wrong.....if I could afford multiple bikes at least one of em would be a cruiser for those sunny sunday afternoons when it's far too bloody hot to get all the race leathers on. But my choice for daily transport will always be a sportsbike, not cos I think it looks cool or for any other reason other than I get places very, very quickly and have a great deal of fun on the way.
One day.....when several vertebrae have fused together and my wrists are knackered from 40 years of weight under braking......maybe I'll come round to your way of thinking.
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LOL (http://www.compfused.com/directlink/542/)
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One nutter.
I hope the other bloke survived that. Not too sure about watching someone get very badly hurt for entertainment!
It was the Isle of Mann right?
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Started with a Yamaha 2 stroke dirtbike in 87. Lotsa smoke! Think it was 185cc, great wheelie machine
1988 Ninja 250cc
1989 bought a used 1985 Ninja 600
1991 Bought a 1989Yamaha FZR-600 (double headlight)
1993 Bought a 1992 Yamaha FZR 600
1995 Bought ZX-7R (1995 model, i think)
1996 Bought a used YSR-50. Modified it with titanium dual exhaust and lots of other silly things. Would do 70mph wide open
2001 Bought a 1999 ZX-9R Probably the most fun bike I've ever owned (solid blue color too)
Sold the bikes off a while back...kinda miss them. Was in two accident, neither my fault. Kinda think I've survived 2 strikes, perhaps not push it on a 3rd?
I really wish I'd kept the YSR-50. A few friends had them and we'd takeover the local go-kart track (had great, banked turns, etc).
If you havent seen a YSR-50...imagine any of these bullet-bikes shrunk down ... (not mine, btw)
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Lazs, can't agree with you on helmets thing. It saved my miserable brains at least once. I clipped a Fiat 500, flew gracefully through the air and landed smack on the edge of a kerb with the back of my head. I saw a few stars but recovered enough to argue with the driver about whose fault it was. Although to be fair he brought me into his house and gave a me a cup of tea, without prejudice you understand!
Without a helmet I wouldn't be posting this now. (Pity about that you might say ;) .)
whatever about the fun of the wind in the hair from time to time. For day to day riding helmets are a must for me, law or no law.
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cpxx
What Laz hates ( imho) is people forcing him to wear a helmet.
In Arizona, as long as you are 18, you make that call.
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Maybe but like seatbelt laws, helmet laws have saved lives, mine being one. I kinda think that is a good trade off for a small loss of freedom.
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cpxx, that's where I strongly disagree.
Anyway, the state doesn't care if you live or die. The Laws are for reducing cost of medical expense.
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02 Honda VTX Retro 1800.
Funny thing is....in my state (Ky) the law is....
Seatbelts - Required (relatively new law)
Helmets - Optional (used to be manditory then changed AFTER the new seatbelt law was enacted)
Makes ya kinda wonder.....
Zaphod
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Simply put those folks who ride with out a helmet are keeping the Darwin awards alive and well.
But as adults it is there decision to make.
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Triumph 955i Daytona here...
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Helmets. OK, lets talk helmets.
When it's a nice hot day in the summer there's nothing better for cooling down than a quick ride round with no lid on. shreckin ace. Wind in the hair and all that.
Sometimes you'll find me at the Bulldog Bash in the summer (google time for anyone who doesnt know) and since the police are banned from entering.....my lid comes off soon as I ride through the gate.
But in the British winter (which is around 8 months of the year) you don't just want a helmet. You want neck tube, balaclava, helmet and every single vent on the lid gaffa taped shut. Believe me. I'm going to work in the mornings resembling the michelin man these days cos it's too bloody cold to do anything else.
And for high speed work also......when I'm belting down the motorway (freeway) at 100mph + and a fly gets splatted against my visor.......damn that would hurt without a lid on.
But.....it sure would be nice to have the choice. There's times in the summer that I've really resented British law cos I've gotta put a lid on just to ride a mile to the local shop to buy myself an ice cream.
But then me resenting British law isn't that unusual.
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hey Grim, I had a 595i for a day a few years back. Decided the Triumph test rider must be a 6'8" gorilla with a concave bowl in his chest.
D'you find yours comfy?
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Mines ok but then I'm a 6'3" Gorilla with a concave bowl in my chest! :lol
As for helmets. I'm kind of torn. On one level I thinkwe should be free to decide for ourselves. I would choose some kind of helmet most times . But I think I'm old and wise enough to decide that for myself. I don't need to be forced.
To be honest I think it depends on what and how you ride. For example, in the winter I wear a full face for the reasons swoop outlined earlier. On long high speed runs I wear it too. On short hops very hot days or touring in southern europe I wear my open face. I do think that when riding classics you should be able to choose not to wear one if you wish. Most runs I've been on, on my T100 meander through the lanes at 30-50mph. Take the Banbury run for example. ( the vintage mcc event for pre 1930's bikes ) itsdaft that these guys are forced to wear helmets. They potter along often no faster than a pedal bike.
So I think in essence helmets should be discretionary. but for high speed or long distance riding its advisable to wear one.
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On my 20,000km cross country trip I had to take my ST into the H-D dealer in Cranbrook BC for some routine servicing (left with only 5000km on the odo) the mech who took it around the back wore a helmet. Asked why, and was told a mech had killed himself when he dropped the bike at 20kph and hit his head on the pavement. Became dealer policy after to wear a helmut.
That short ride to the store can kill you but I still hate to put the 'lid' on to do so. (law says I have to, anyways)
Years ago after a night out bending the elbow at the cottage, the cousin(Bultaco Matador) and myself(DT-1) would take a 1/2 hour moderate speed run(usual was full throttle) to clear the cobwebs. Best cure for a hangover I ever came across with that cool air blowing by.
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helmets? If you are so afraid of getting hurt... what are you doing riding in the first place? Freedom? don't make me laugh... the freedom of the open road so long as you are wearing all the stupid gear your mommy tells you to.
I rode 30+ years and crashed numerous times and never once scratched my my head... when you are as magnificently handsome as me you protect the noggin I guess... oh wait... maybe it is because 90% of all injuries on a motorcycle are to the riders limbs... mostly lower limbs...
in cars... most fatalities are because of head injuries... they don't make car drivers wear helmets.... smart car drivers (racers) wear helmets tho don't they? some bright brainwashed lad here can explain this all to me I am sure tho.
most car drivers are driving at what would be racing speeds 30 years ago and those racers wore helmet. No race car has the stupid cross the chest seatbelts found on all street cars.
For me... it ruins the motorcycle evperiance... Motorcycles are about seeing the country in a different way... a car a bike... walking... all are different ways to see the scenery.... none of those ways is enhanced by breating nothing but your sweaty head and bad breath.
The sights sounds and smells are the thing... all of whichj are dulled by a stupid helmet. you aren't a racer. you drive the bike a lot more than you race it around... if you didn't you wouldn't have a licence...kid yourself but don't try to kid me.
wear a helmet and pretend to be a racer all you want but don't make me wear one. None of your business. You were sayed by a helmet? good for you... keep wearing it. I find it pitiful tho that you are thanking the nannies for forcing you to do something.
Maybe you are just a wuss and don't want to stand out? that is a good reason but at least admit it and don't force your silliness on others.
you wear a helmet because you are cold? fine.. get so bundled up that you aren't really enjoying any of the motorcycle experiance but then.... why ride? In that kind of weather you can't go as fast as the cages.
lazs
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IMO, helmets should be the riders choice.
I had a crash in '77 where I hit a curb with the side of my face while upside down flying through the air at 25mph. Doc said that if I had a full face lid on I'd probably have broken my neck. My face absorbed the impact shattering my jawbone but my lid protected my temple area.
For me, a lid is a manditory piece of equipment for every ride. The fact that most states require helmets is just an indicator of how politicians use their position to force their beliefs, whether they be safety, religious or moral issues, on their constituants...I don't like it a bit.
Another stupid thing that may happen in California is that there's talk in Sacramento of requiring motorcycles in this state to pass a smog check every year. Trying to pull the state out of it's financial woes, this is what politicans come up with. A law like this could wipe out both the custom builders and the after market exhaust business here in Ca. I can't belive the Collectinator would sign something like this since he rides also.
Despite all the stupid laws forced on riders by state and federal government, they will never be able to stop me from riding or enjoying the ride.
Something cool happened on a ride I took last weekend. While riding up hwy 1 along the coast south of Half Moon Bay I looked in one of my mirriors and saw a plane comming up from my 7 just off the cliff over the beach. When he got to my 4oc I turned my head for a better look and saw a beautiful P51 skimming the cliff at what looked like about 250mph. As he got to my 3oc I could see the pilot giving me a thumb up sign. I could only imagine how much more fun he was having compaired to me at the time.
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Heehee.
So much "biker" thread with so few bikers. :D
Just pegged at more than mildly amused.
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I believe in wearing helmets. If it werent for helmets I wouldnt be here today. All the guys who wear the nazi pots on there heads, I sort of get a chuckle thinking if they ever went down hard, then again each person is ultimately is responsible for their own safey. The law wont protect you from harm. Only you can when I ride a mototorcycle I wear proper protective gear and use sound judgement. I still have my jaw limbs and having a great time.
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Jackle1 you aint making any sense.
Helmets let the rider decide.
Lazs riding a cruiser is about lolloping along enjoyiong the wind in the hair the different view and the ride, much like riding an old classic Brit bike. But riding is also about the buzz of leaning through a series of bends, feeling the suspension chassis working, the tyres on the edge of their grip etc
Riding in the winter? its that perverse sense of pitting oneself against the elements. You sure learn a lot about throttle control and handling when the roads are not so dry and grippy.
I like all kinds, I ride a modern(ish) bike, and a classic. I ride in hot summer, cold winter, fast on a sunny sunday cruising on classic runs, touring and seeing the rest of europe. It's all great.
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Originally posted by Chairboy
80 Yamaha RX-50 'Midnight Special' (sold)
82 Honda CB-900F (sold)
75 Honda CB-750K (in garage, needs work)
98 Suzuki Bandit 1200 (Active!)
How ya like that bandit? Brand new one(04 I think) on sale up the road.
Never owned a crotch rocket, but I'm thinking about it.
Honda360 at 15
Yamaha 750 through high school.
Kawi Vulcan 700 85 to present. I still own it, but it hasn't run in years.
I rode that Vulcan from California to dixie and back as a 20 year old. I don't know if I got the back or the balls to do it again at 40...
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Originally posted by Zulu7
Jackle1 you aint making any sense.
Heehee. That`s because you don`t speak the language. :lol
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Well, if you call them crotchrockets you probably don't have the maturity to ride one. Sportbikes sure are fun though if you take the time to figure out what the hell you're doing.
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Crotchrockets (ricers) aren't real bikes...they are instant ******* machines for imamture kids.
I've probably had my motorcylce liscence longer than most of you ****heads have been alive.
So **** you and your biker theory.
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If I'm going on a cruise thru the country I'm not normally gonna wear a lid. But, if I'm riding in traffic it's my American Express. I don't leave home without it.
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Yup Drunky, that young stuff always wants to make out, even if is only putting it to a gas tank.:D :D
Now this is more like it.
(http://www.paulyaffeoriginals.com/images/project-limetime-pic-22.jpg)
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Originally posted by MiloMorai
Yup Drunky, that young stuff always wants to make out, even if is only putting it to a gas tank.:D :D
Now this is more like it.
(http://www.paulyaffeoriginals.com/images/project-limetime-pic-22.jpg)
Oh God ! A Ness groupie.
Would ya wear the Nikis with the light up heels on that or what?
A Hampster prom date. :D
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Originally posted by Drunky
I've probably had my motorcylce liscence longer than most of you ****heads have been alive.
More than likely I was puttin while most of these wannabees was makin puddin in their Pampers. :D
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Originally posted by XNachoX
Well, if you call them crotchrockets you probably don't have the maturity to ride one. Sportbikes sure are fun though if you take the time to figure out what the hell you're doing.
I think FU is in order here.
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Your hilarious Jackal.:p :)
I rode a cafe racer for awhile. Had to sell it when I went boat racing, not that it mattered much since I still got my speed fix.
Just fyi, a cafe racer is the grand daddy of your crotch rocket. :)
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I grew up around bikes and the bay area and knew ness. We hung out at his hole in the wall shop once in a while when he was small (he still is short)... One time he was showing us one of his hidious gold and candy sportsters (looked like an earlier version of that puke green smurfy bike in the above picture)... one of my buddies said... "ahh... see you nessed up another one"... His bikes are nessed up to this day.
Helmets... Like a place I worked with a lot of low pipes and such.. before the hard hat rule nobody ever hit their head... after we were made to wear hardhats we all bumped our heads on the pipes regularly... anyone looking at all the scared up tops of our hardhats would conclude that the lids were indeed protecting us from injury.
Wear one or don't... there is some evidense that they worsen the injuries... There is lots of evidence that they make more sense in passenger vehicles.
As for sport bikes and the "limit"... all vehicles can be ridden to the limit. Going 10mph faster around a corner on a sport bike than on a cruiser is no more challenging. Limit is the limit.
The trick is to have fun and not look like a monkey fornicating a football while you are doing it.
lazs
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I no longer own any motorcycles, but I have owned four of them over the years.
My first bike was a 1969 BSA Victor 441 single. I bought in 1970 as a leftover. Finally sold it in 1981 after many years of fun. Typical Brit bike, leaked oil and the transmission needed rebuilding every 12,000 miles. But it always started on the second kick and the sound of a big single is like music.
Second bike was a 1976 Suzuki GT185 2 stroke twin. I purchased this for use down in GTMO. It was perfect for use on the base. After bringing it back to the States, it received the full "cafe" treatment. Overbored, ported, polished exhaust ports, chambers, smoothbore Mikunis, K&N filters, Dunlop K81s, rearsets and clip-on bars. Smallest bike I ever saw with a hydraulic front disk. After the rebuild it made 36 hp, and weighed about 180 pounds wet. Small, remarkably fast and agile. Performance was a bit better than the Yamaha RD250, which was the fastest street 250 of the day. Sold it for $700 in 1988 to a youngster who thought it was cool.....
Third bike was a 1977 Yamaha RD400D. With 44 hp stock, it was quicker than the Honda CB750. It remained stock for about 2 weeks. The motor was sent to a tuner shop in Jacksonville. When I got it back, it was making 72 hp. Competition clutch, dual cross drilled front disks. Cast alloy wheels anodized to match tank color. 1/4 fairing, rearsets, clip-ons, Smoothbore Mikunis, K&N filters, Reed valves tuned to push torque curve higher in rev band, Solo, racing type seat. Chambers tuned on dyno. Couldn't let it idle for 10 seconds without fouling plugs. You annoyed evryone within earshot because you had to constantly blip the throttle to keep the plugs clean while waiting at a light or in slow traffic. Years later, it was still beating the daylights out of the so-called superbikes. Sold in 1988 to a guy who wanted to go club racing on a small budget. Never heard from him again. I think that bike is responsible for my grey hair, scared the hell out me many times.
4th and last bike was a 1979 RD400F. Left largely stock, mods were limited to expansion chambers with rejetted Mikunis and K&N filters. This was a daily rider, with about 50 hp. Fast enough to be fun, without the hassle of being as high strung as my other RD400. Sold it in 1993 to a friend who rode it for a few years.
These days, there are a whole crop of high performance 600s that handle better than the RDs (and they were among the best of their time), are blinding fast and require far less tuning and maintenence. Tires are vastly better, and they're fully tricked out straight from the factory. Back in the 70s, if you wanted a "cafe racer", you pretty much had to build it yourself. Of course, these new bikes cost a fortune these days. My '77 RD400 cost me $895 new, with another $2,000 or so dollars in parts and labor to create what I wanted.
When the last bike was sold, we were looking to buy a minivan to haul around the kids. I was driving an SUV to work and my only sports machine was a well-worn and needy Shelby GLHS being slowly rebuilt in the garage.
A friend recently bought a Buell. I pulled out my ancient Bell Star helmet and I took it for a short ride. That old nagging urge began anew. I know Buell's repuation for building hand grenades, but this bike has all the moves and the sound of that Harley motor sure is sweet.... At 52, I'm a bit beyond the crest for a high performance sport bike. Nonetheless, if I can convince the wife that I won't get killed.... Naw, she thinks my WRX is a death machine.
My regards,
Widewing
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Originally posted by Zulu7
If so sign in guys?
What have you got?
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Member? (http://www.glme.org/)
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Originally posted by MiloMorai
Your hilarious Jackal.:p :)
I rode a cafe racer for awhile. Had to sell it when I went boat racing, not that it mattered much since I still got my speed fix.
Just fyi, a cafe racer is the grand daddy of your crotch rocket. :)
Thanks for clearing that up.... the cafe racer part. I probably wouldn`t have figured that out since I have wore out more tools on bikes than most folks will ever own. :D
I am a little concerned over the use of "Your" and "crotch rocket" in a reply to me. I was never able to get in touch with my feminine side enough to consider mounting one of the hideous things. ;)
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Here is the point... wide sorta skirts it but...
you guys are riding cookie cutter embarasing bikes... you didn't have anything to do with em except swipe your credit card through the machine at the store. The parts on em are better than anything made 20 years ago and just assure that you are going faster when you fall off. You can't use half the capabilities without breaking the law so... 90% of the time you are just looking silly and same old same old... the only way your bikes are fun is if they are going fast enough to kill you.
All bikes are dangerous.. I don't want to die on one of those embarassing neon cartoon bikes. It would be humiliating... whenever I see a dead or maimed rider in a pile of neon plastic parts I feel sorry for his embarassment.
I would rather ride an old panhead chopper for ten minutes than to be buzzing around the cages in the best sport bike made. I would rather take one ride on a vincent or even a squarial or even a duccati than any hyper bike made.
If I wanted a "cafe" experiance I would rather ride an old 45" KR Harley... At least when I parked at the bar at the peak I could pick my bike out from all the neon lookallikes... Mine would be the one with people standing around it and probly the least impressive performer.
lazs
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Riding my first bike on weekends, a cheap 90,000km Honda dominator 650 single.
Will get an an aprilia tuono when I ditch this one in a year or so.
Lazs, using that logic, your guns should all be the amazonian wood tube poison dart variety, I mean, they'll just be TOO MUCH fun if they're superlative, right? Such a thing as TOO MUCH fun?
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"The trick is to have fun and not look like a monkey fornicating a football while you are doing it."
please... wtf cares what you look like.
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using my logic... one would shoot steel guns instead of plastic ones. I believe the experiance is enhanced by appreciation of the machine.
I do realize that nostalgia and appreceation is not for everyone and am glad. I think that some are fooling themselves tho by saying that they would rather ride or shoot modern reliable equipment .
lazs
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Originally posted by Swoop
hey Grim, I had a 595i for a day a few years back. Decided the Triumph test rider must be a 6'8" gorilla with a concave bowl in his chest.
D'you find yours comfy?
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Hey there Swoop!
Well I'm 5'10 and don't find a problem with it during normal riding. However, when the mood strikes to take her up to speeds where I'm required to lay down on the tank, I could use a concave chest which I don't happen to have...LOL Since I'm getting too old to do that type of thing frequently these days, I have no problem dealing a with a little "discomfort" now and then. Other than that, I love the bloody thing and it's the best bike I've owned so far...
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Originally posted by lazs2
I would rather ride an old panhead chopper for ten minutes than to be buzzing around the cages in the best sport bike made. I would rather take one ride on a vincent or even a squarial or even a duccati than any hyper bike made.
lazs
A fellow I work with rides a 1950's vintage panhead. He does a lot of customizing as a side business.
I always liked the BMW twins. I had a friend with a R75/6 model (late 1970s). Not fast, but smooth, comfortable and reliable like a swiss watch. I liked the low maintenance shaft drive too.
I recently went with my brother to look at BMWs. He drooled over the K1200 brochure (165hp for crisake!), but realism set in and he was more interested in the 2004 BMW R1150R in the showroom. Nice machine, much further refined version of the opposed twin. Looks like a great weekend rider. Most certainly not a sport bike. Being a 2004 leftover the dealer indicated that they would negotiate a price somewhat below $10k. He hasn't made a decision yet, but if he buys it, I want to take it for a ride. It's a very nice machine for a very reasonable price.
My regards,
Widewing
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Well call me silly fellas...
I appreciate motorcycles for what they are... AN ABSOLUTE HOOT TO RIDE! I've been riding for let's see here... 20 years now. I love old bikes, new bikes, dirt bikes, street bikes, sportbikes, cruisers...
I've owned most of the above, and each type of bike has provided me with immense enjoyment, albeit each in a different way. Kind of like having sex in different positions, it's hard to pick a favorite!
Grimmy
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Memory lane...
Circa '55 Cushman stepthrough scooter.
Suzuki 80
Yamaha 100
Honda 90. Virtually indestructible.
1947 Indian Chief 80 inch flathead. (never ran, sold for $150)
1970 Norton Commando S This was a smokin ride by the standards of the day. Maintenance pig, Prince of Darkness electrics, but I loved it. Something about a British vertical twin that blinds one to the mechanical deficiencies. Right hand shift, up for first was an interesting change in the beginning.
1972 BMW R75/5. Bought new in Germany, rode it for a year overseas, sold in LA for more than I paid for it. I don't think that pencils out anymore. Reliable but subject to an infrequent but scary high speed steering anomaly. They lengthened the swing arm by about an inch the following model year to fix.
Royal Enfield (in a basket, never ran)
1969 Triumph Bonneville. Rat chopper. What was I thinking? Amal Concentric carbs with slides that stuck at the top of the bores under hard acceleration. I kept meaning to fix it but the fun of fumbling around for the cleverly concealed ignition switch under the seat with the throttle stuck on seemed somehow to increase the enjoyment in those days. When going out on the town I used to paint it with a Krylon spray can. If it was a special occasion I'd wash it first. It was named "El Sano".
1982 Suzuki GS 850 G
Current ride: 1978 FLH Shovel with FXWG frontend.
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My point wasn't that. I meant to say that taste is arbitrary.
When I see cruisers, the only thing that irks me is the off James Bond villain disfunctionality, funky but not quite the tool I'd trust my bellybutton and brains to.
Idealy I'd ride this:
(http://www.husqvarnausa.com/2005/images/360x260/sm450_1.jpg)
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yep... taste is arbitrary... that is an ugly bike tho by any standards. If I wanted to play around in the dirt I would use an old gold star beezer or a maico or bulltaco. I think I am gonna pick up an old 250 bull. Some day I will build a Harley sportster dirt bike.
lazs
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couldn't care less about looks, except that of the lines i leave on the ground.
those tires aren't slick by mistake btw.
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:lol So now we are into the if it isn't old and a cruiser its S**t argument.
Thankfully I don't see too much of that you aren't a biker if you ride that kind of bike c**p over here any more. If you ride then you are one of us in my book whatever it is, the important thing is its a motorcycle. its a worldwide brotherhood that is too rare in other ways these days.
I've travelled all over Europe on mine and made many new freinds met many interesting people and had much fun. I've no time for the kind of divisive stuff. Two wheels fast four wheels last, as they say.
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Originally posted by moot
My point wasn't that. I meant to say that taste is arbitrary.
When I see cruisers, the only thing that irks me is the off James Bond villain disfunctionality, funky but not quite the tool I'd trust my bellybutton and brains to.
Idealy I'd ride this:
(http://www.husqvarnausa.com/2005/images/360x260/sm450_1.jpg)
Supermoto's are AWESOME moot :). Have you seen this? Surprisingly it's a Moto-Guzzi:
(http://www.sportrider.com/bikes/2004/2004-mg-mgs-01-3.jpg)
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I wouldn't know where to start as far as listing every bike I've owned. But the last 10 have been..
GSX-R 1000 K3 (current ride)
GSX-R 1000 K1
Aprillia RSV
Triumph Daytona 955i
Suzuki TL1000R
Suzuki TL1000S
Suzuki GSX-R 1100 (Yoshimura Special)
Suzuki GSX-R 600 (race bike)
Suzuki GSX-R 750
Moto Guzzi 1100 Sport
Other race bikes,trail bikes and speedway bikes too many to remember.
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50cc honda 1993
100cc yamaha1995
100cc kawasaki 1996
125cc CR Honda 1999
250cc suzuki 2001
2005 need new bike :(
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Oh and as for wearing helmets or not, if you want to rebel against helmet laws for what ever reason then go for it, it's your head. But if you ride bikes alot it's only a matter of time till you have a accident and you''d better have good protective gear and a helmet when you do.
Of all the spills I've had on and off the track I'd say around 60% of the time my helmet never got a scratch. Of those 40% where the helmet did take a hit I certinly wouldn't be alive today if I wasn't wearing one at the time.
You only need to look at stats for head injuries and deaths in those countries/states that do have compulsory helmet laws for bikes compared to those that don't.
...-Gixer
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As far as helmets go, this past year was the first in PA without the helmet law. I took a spin without one to see what it was like and I liked it. I'll still wear a helmet most of the time but I couldn't care less what others do.
That's also the way I feel about what you ride. I ride a sportbike because that's what I want to ride. I don't care if your riding a homemade wooden bike with a rubberband engine, who am I to piss on your parade?
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Let those who ride decide.
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I don't care if you wear a helmet or not but it should be your choice and not some politicians.
If I raced I would have the bike that was the specialty to that racing and.... It would not be licenced. Any pretend race bike running around on the street is pretty silly to me.
If I raced... I would look for old timey nostalgia races because I could enjoy the older stuff and work on it and not spend the huge amounts required to be competitive on modern bikes. I would not have to race with people who lived high tech and had no other life and were spending more than I make a year to race.
If your only hobby is bikes or you are rich then you will probly be better served with modern equipment in modern venues.
I have lots of hobbies. I would rather tinker and cruise around... so far as I can see... the modern "sport bikes" are chump bikes.. you look silly on em and they are no fun at all unless you are breaking the law and even then... only if you are on the edge of killing yourself.
different skills are required for riding modern bikes fast or well. I have no interest in developing em.
The guys I know who ride em now are doing their best to develop their high speed wheelie skills. I see guys doing wheelstands at 70mph getting onto the freeway around here.... brotherhood or not... I'm not gonna crash my elky to avoid him if he goes down. I know that 18 wheeler ain't.
lazs
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Yeah Nacho, looks a bit heavy, but if it's the new flagship of moto guzzi, it can't be half-bad.. :)
Still haven't run into a review of it yet.
Also curious to read one for the bimota front swingarm-bike too; Atomo I think.
Lazs, go test a Tuono or tail happy supermoto and see if it's not fun.
I still think that by your logic you should be shooting nerf foam guns. Legality and fun are two fields that corelate only because of civil needs.
Oh wait, you already stick to FM2s etc :)
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Those public stunts are downright stupid, I dunno if even an amoeba couldn't figure that out.
The stunters themselves voided any tolerance for them when they gamble with other motorists safety.
About the helmets, it sounds like just another public/state/whatever liability issue. People should have the right to test darwin if they take the responsibility.
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moot... I have ridden some superbikes and they were fun but I was vastly breaking the law having fun on em... I wouldn't want to ride em in a law abiding manner since they are the silliest looking things I can imagine and no fun whatsoever to ride in a legal manner.
The gun/nerf ball thing does not apply... there is no law against me shooting real bullets.... There is no law against sport bike riders doing whatever they want on a track or private land but.... they would get humiliated by any bike there that was set up for the track/venue.
Sport bike riders are pretenders.
lazs
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:rolleyes: :lol
here we go again.
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well, if I bought a superbike it'd be because I'd take it to track days at least once a month if not every 2 weekends/3, and canyon roads every other day.
The Tuono and supermoto are different things, the tuono is a naked and wide-barred vtwin superbike, but it's as different as it could be from just those few differences.
Supermoto are nothing like Superbikes. Basicaly what a short-winded rally car homologation model is to the actual rally race care is what supermoto's are to dirtbikes; you just adjust the tires and springing to on-road.
I guess this is a slant against (urban) sbk squids, ok.
Just don't mix things up: it's the track riders that'll do the asskicking, not the track bikes.
No need to mention what everyone knows about pilot+machine sums.
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moot... if you want to race then race. You will not be competitive on a street bike. There are no "dual purpose" racers... cars or bikes. If you enjoy the track so much you will have to make a decision... you will have to commit in order to be competitive.
the sport bike riders are pale pretenders to the racers.
lazs
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You know knothing!!!
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Originally posted by lazs2
moot... I have ridden some superbikes and they were fun but I was vastly breaking the law having fun on em... I wouldn't want to ride em in a law abiding manner since they are the silliest looking things I can imagine and no fun whatsoever to ride in a legal manner.
The gun/nerf ball thing does not apply... there is no law against me shooting real bullets.... There is no law against sport bike riders doing whatever they want on a track or private land but.... they would get humiliated by any bike there that was set up for the track/venue.
Sport bike riders are pretenders.
lazs
Sport Bike Riders are pretenders? You could say the same thing about accountants on Harley's pretending to be bad ass. Not sure why you have such a thing for hating sports bikes. Maybe it's because they make harleys look slow. Then again most cars can make a harley looks slow but it's a matter of style and what you prefer. Why slag one style of bike over the other?
As for taking a sport bike onto the track and getting humiliated any modern sport bike can be tuned with a couple of clicks and set it up for quick times on the track. I can do qucker laps today on my GSX-R 1000 with 010's then I could on my old 600 race bike with slicks, bike peformance and tyres especially have come along way. There isn't alot of difference between the bike you buy off the shop floor compared to a bike setup for the track. Unless of course your talking GP Bikes?
A good rider will beat a candy arse on anything. I could take out my TLR and lap half of the R1's and GSX-R 1000's out there on any track day. People get so involved with stats on bikes they really mean bugger all in the real world.Your better off spending the money on some advanced riding schools.
...-Gixer
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Noticed today where Hunter killed himself.
Thought it was kinda ironic that he was not wasted when he pulled the crap on Sonny and crew , then killed his own damn self.
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Swoop,
Where abouts in UK are you? I might be moving to Watford soon for work and a change of scenery. Few years ago I toured around UK, mainly Scotland on a Suzuki GS1000 looking to do the same again but on something a bit more modern. And this time make it over to Europe as well.
...-Gixer
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Best bits of UK for biking?
Avoid anywhere likely to be a tourist haunt if you want good riding. Derbyshire is popular with bikers though its crowded to hell, Wales is good but heavily policed. You can still have fun though just keep em peeled. I'd try Worcestershire, Herefordshire, Shropshire, Warwickshire, The road between St Neots and kimbolton in Northamptonshire is a cracker its the A45.
Wiltshire is good East anglia is pretty good, while there check out Duxford museum, and of course Scotland. Oh and check out the National motorcycle museum in Birmingham. They had a fire but many of the bikes have been restored so its worth a visit.
Going to Europe? The Alps, the Furka pass is great. But the Alps full stop. France try the Auvergne region. Brilliant roads and stunning extinct volcanoes. the Pyrenees are great much less crowded than the Alps too. Germany got to be the Eiffel Mts and the Nurbergring or the Black Forest. Belgium the Ardennes is a must especialy around Spa Francorchamps. We'll be going to the Dolomites this summer in the South tyrol ,Italy so I'll let you know how that went.
Have fun:aok
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"Sport Bike Riders are pretenders? You could say the same thing about accountants on Harley's pretending to be bad ass. Not sure why you have such a thing for hating sports bikes. Maybe it's because they make harleys look slow."
"could say"??? I DO say that all the time.. they are pretenders. I don't think you are honestlyu saying that street bikes can competete with single purpose race bikes and I think you know that 99% of the morons on sprotbikes are phony pretenders.
I have ridden 160 hp Harleys (at the rear wheel)that are very streetable. It is you who is showing his predjudice.
Face it.... most people are laughing at you pretenders. The only ones not laughing are the medics who scrape you up and shake their head at your stupid stunts.
If I had one I would probly paint it flat black and stip it down and take it out once in a while to beat the crap out of and hope I didn't get caught and lose my licence... I certainly would not want to be seen on it or use it for errands or to get somewhere. If I wanted to enjoy a motorcycle ride I would get on something tha tI could sit up on and smell, see and hear the scenery on.
lazs
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Originally posted by lazs2
I have ridden 160 hp Harleys (at the rear wheel)that are very streetable. It is you who is showing his predjudice.
lazs
I have driven a +500hp/80ft/+100k lb trucks and those were also very steerable and comfortable to drive.
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staga... probly so... now imagine if you had to drive that truck laying on the hood with your butt propped up in the air like a cat in heat and holding onto the hood ornament.
lazs
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Originally posted by lazs2
staga... probly so... now imagine if you had to drive that truck laying on the hood with your butt propped up in the air like a cat in heat and holding onto the hood ornament.
lazs
........ and if you would add some of them Oh SO Puuuuurrrrty dayglo purple leathers and a new set of Nikes with the light up heels, then make it go diiiinnnnnggggg diiiiinnnnnng diiiiinnnnnnngg , you would have the package. :D
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"If I had one I would probly paint it flat black and stip it down and take it out once in a while to beat the crap out of and hope I didn't get caught and lose my licence... "
sounds like my kind of bike Lazs.
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I don't understand what point you are trying to make Laz.
My Honda 900F had lowish bars and I had to lean over to ride it and the fairing was low as well. But it was comfortable to ride. I took the fairing off and rode it with higher bars for a while and the wind at highway speed made it very tiring.
The forward lean made it easier to throw your weight around which made it easier to change lanes and go around corners. The instruments were easy to see. As far as looking at the scenery I wear a full face helmet (and think anyone who rides a bike without a helmet it an idiot) so you don't really get the wind in your face experience regardless of how you are sitting.
I think some of the most uncomfortable bikes I have ever seen are the custom choppers they make on all those shows. They put long rake frames and low seats that force you to lean forward and the bars are up high so you are holding your arms up, really it just looks like a very uncomfortable ride. But I guess the comfort is secondary to the "cool" factor.
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Nice bike moot, have you ridden that with dirt tires in the dirt. How is it?
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Habu you are right. Custom cruisers are bloody uncomfortable. All theweight on your lower back a*se. Useless at anything over 60unless you have no neck. Lazs I agree for general street riding, heads down bum up is uncomfortable too. I like a happy medium. Ducati monsters are good for this as are streetfighter styled bikes like the speed triple.
:aok
(http://www.triumphrat.net/albums/album335/aab.sized.jpeg)
This is a good mile muncher too and has higher bars than it looks
(http://www.triumphrat.net/albums/album335/aaa.sized.jpeg)
Buy British!
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Iv got my sites on a yamaha for the dirt so was curious.
;)
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Originally posted by Habu
I think some of the most uncomfortable bikes I have ever seen are the custom choppers they make on all those shows. They put long rake frames and low seats that force you to lean forward and the bars are up high so you are holding your arms up, really it just looks like a very uncomfortable ride. But I guess the comfort is secondary to the "cool" factor.
BS.... `60s style choppers are one of the most comfortable means of gettin from point A to point B there is. Instead jacking your *** up in the air and gettin filler cap impressions on your chest like the diiiiingg diiinnnnggggers, you sit comfortably back with arms at a very comfortable postion . (BTW If it aint aped, it aint watermelon :D )
When you extend, rake and lower you are lowering the center of gravity also. While you are layed , looking as comfortable as Al Bundy in front ot the tube, you can roll that puppy into a turn and it will stick like birdchit to a winshield.
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Originally posted by lazs2
It is you who is showing his predjudice.lazs
LOL
Maybe you should actually read your own posts and what your constantly repeating.
And yes I meant what I said about street bikes and race bikes difference. I could take a street 600 put some slicks on it and keep up with half the pack at most meetings. Unless of course your talking Superbikes or GP bikes.
You seem to be keen on the looking tough in matt black image, have you ever tried speedway solo's or sidecards? Toughest form of motorcycling I've ever tried. There you have 160hp, dirt, a wooden wall and no brakes.
Yet you think 160hp Harley is tough,fast or something to write about? LOL.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v449/davest/Pack.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v449/davest/Speedway.jpg)
...-Gixer
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Originally posted by Jackal1
BS.... `60s style choppers are one of the most comfortable means of gettin from point A to point B there is.
That's because they have 2 gallon tanks, and your stopping at every gas station to fill it up.
And rolling into corners is a good way to put it. :lol
...-Gixer
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Originally posted by lazs2
I do realize that nostalgia and appreceation is not for everyone and am glad. I think that some are fooling themselves tho by saying that they would rather ride or shoot modern reliable equipment .
lazs
So is this why we're posting on a BBS dedicated to a game flying vintage fighters? I geuss I should be playing Lock On or Falcon 4 :)
Actually, I took the '89 Honda 250R out of the parents garage yesterday and played in the dirt for awhile. Brought back memories of riding a little honda with a de-tuned 50cc and custom training wheels my grandfather made for me, "blasting" around their property. Ahh the good ol' days :)
...okay, back to humping that football...
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"So is this why we're posting on a BBS dedicated to a game flying vintage fighters? I geuss I should be playing Lock On or Falcon 4 "
WW2 fighters are piston engined as are fast motorcycles. I don't know of a jet powered street bike apart from that mental turbine thing.
Gixer ,Matt black is practical. You just spray over the dirt! and you stop worrying about every little mark!
Jackal1 you are crazy!
60's style chops dont handle, stretch you into the shape of a raggedy a*sed baboon, can't go more than 50 without tying themselves in knots and in the main were criminal ruinations of classic british bikes. Theres nothing worse than seeing a butchered bonnie or BSA.
Would you realy want to ride the wobbly bloody stretched out thing round europe?
Maybe if you had ten years to do it in and an osteopath at every stopping point! Ah the rosy tinted memories of old age eh mate!?
:rolleyes: :lol
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Oh I thought you meant bikers, you mean motorcyclists, oh ok....carry on.
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Originally posted by Zulu7
Jackal1 you are crazy!
60's style chops dont handle, stretch you into the shape of a raggedy a*sed baboon, can't go more than 50 without tying themselves in knots and in the main were criminal ruinations of classic british bikes. Theres nothing worse than seeing a butchered bonnie or BSA.
Would you realy want to ride the wobbly bloody stretched out thing round europe?
Maybe if you had ten years to do it in and an osteopath at every stopping point! Ah the rosy tinted memories of old age eh mate!?
:rolleyes: :lol
Well *** me running. You mean I`ve been confused for damn near 43 years I`ve been doing this chit.
You prove that you haven`t got a fricken clue about bikes or bikers bud. No harm intended it`s just a fact.
If you say a `60s chop don`t handle it proves one thing....You don`t know Jack watermelon what your talking about.
Throwing them babies through the winding mountain roads in The Black Hills is the ultimate. You bring one of them ring diinggers around there and you`d get laughed all the way back to the boat. :)
I think someone should rename this thread to maybe..umm 2 Wheel Enthusiats or some watermelon because so far there have been very few bikers post here. Most don`t even speak the fricken language. There`s a hell of a lot of difference between riding something you call a motorcycle and being a biker. A big, big difference.
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Yes motorcyclists usually have jobs. And they like to bath and shave. :D
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Originally posted by Habu
Yes motorcyclists usually have jobs. And they like to bath and shave. :D
LOL this is news to me.
Look it's very simple really.
Some people like sport bikes and some people prefer the cruisers.
Hey I love the speed and technology behind a good sport bike.
But at my age and size 6'4" and 250lbs I am better suited on a cruiser.
To each his own.
The only real problem I have is seeing very young novice riders on a sportbike with out a skid lid!
Seen way too many in the ER and on the road.
But other thatn that hey have fun and be safe.
But do remember when riding a motorcycle wether its on the street or dirt is not a question of IF you are going to crash but more of WHEN.
It will happen I promise you so just be ready for it.
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Originally posted by Habu
Yes motorcyclists usually have jobs. And they like to bath and shave. :D
Yea, and most Yupster "motorcyclsts' have their head stuck so far up their *** they couldn`t tell which way the wind was blowing from their own farts. Also most wouldn`t help each other if their feet were on fire. They also usualy stay far, far away from bikers because they fear something they have no knowledge of. They couldn`t spell brotherhood with a Big Chief pad and a marksalot.
OH... on the other hand a biker damn sure wouldn`t go into a cold sweat panic concerning disposale of a few Lilac branchs. ..... :rofl
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Jackle1
I've heard this "bikers v motorcyclist" argument before. To me a biker is a guy who rides a motorcycle, Knows how to repair and maintain the thing, spends most of his free time leisure time with the things, and uses the thing all year round as far as possible. In essence a guy or a girl who lives and breathes the things. I've met many of what you call a Biker. Big mean looking, got the beard, the jacket with the patches rockers etc spends his whole life talking about some project bike or other he's building but you never see him on the bloody thing. It gets to the point where your not sure if these guys even have a bike. In my experience most of these bikers are not bikers as I understand it at all. they are people who's uniform, image, and lifestyle is more important than the bike !
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Originally posted by Zulu7
Jackle1
To me a biker is a guy who rides a motorcycle
LOL Yep, I allready knew what your definition was. I`ve explained that to ya. Like I said, you don`t even speak the language bud. You have no clue.
I've met many of what you call a Biker
Heehee...errrrr....ummmm ....... It`s not what "I" call one way or the other . It just is bud. It`s something I`m quite sure you will never understand.
I think you like a lot of other people have based opinions on grade B movies , etc. The rest of it scares you so bad you won`t ever get close to it. Freedom always scares the pure watermelon out of most people. Most people are told how to think, what is acceptable, how to act, what to say and when to say it. They are comfortable with that and anything else has to be wrong. Why? Because it scares the crap out of most to fuggin think for themselves.
I owned and ran Southern Iron Biker Supply. I was at at least one biker run a week, sometimes two. ( Note I said "biker run", not motorcyclist event:) ) If I wasn`t at one, I was getting ready to go to one.
I can tell you for a fact that these are some of the best people without a doubt. If you walk the walk and don`t just talk the talk you would understand this.
Bud, these people stick together like friggen glue. There is no fair weather BS. If one has a prob, all has a prob and everyone does whatever it takes to get things straight. Someone has financial, medical, legal, whatever kind of problems, everyone will pitch in to get what needs to be done straightened out.
Bikers are generous to a fault. At any biker run you will find some hard partying and a lot of spending going on in general, but if you really want to see what it`s all about just let someone get sick or hurt or loose a home, etc. Then things really get to shaking. Someone throws a benefit run and it is a sight to behold. The wallet is open from the start to the finish. We have paid hosptal bills, medical bills, funeral services, bought school supplies for kids, built, roofed or repaired homes,etc,etc. The list could go on and on. The very first to give or help when no one else will. I`ve seen it and lived over and over. I`ve done it over and over and damn sure don`t regret one minute of it.
On the other hand if you`re stupid enough or dumb enough to think you are going to mess with one, then you are going to get a free preview to hell. It`s called Brotherhood my friend. Something you don`t or will never know, experience or understand.
Myself and my wife were on the road weekly, every week, to these runs. That was my life and I loved it. I had to get off the road initialy due to my wife being diagnosed with cancer, then I got my neck screwed up. I miss it to NO end. Why? Because I was guaranteed that every run I made that there was going to be people there that spoke the same language as myself. There was no BS in other words. One wasn`t always trying to get over on the other, etc. No fake, fair weather fugheads.
As a last comment, I`d like to ask you to read the last lines of your last post.
Now try to understand this. What you described there is called a WANNABE. Big, big, big difference. That`s what I mean by you don`t have a clue.
:D
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Originally posted by Jackal1
OH... on the other hand a biker damn sure wouldn`t go into a cold sweat panic concerning disposale of a few Lilac branchs. ..... :rofl
Fortunately I beat the rap on that one. The guy in the booth did have a chopped Harley, pony tail, scruffy jeans and a black leather jacket though.
My motorcycle these days has 100 hp, no fairing and cruises at around 100 kph. ;)
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Jackal, just because you've got mates doesn't mean you're any more of a biker than anyone else.
I've been riding since 1991. A qualified motorcycle instructor since 1994. A proud member of the Wolves Outlaws Motorcycle Club since 1993. And I've never owned anything but sportsbikes.
So don't you dare try to tell me I'm not a real biker just because I prefer a machine with the performance of a Ferrari rather than some old clunker based on 1950s tractor technology.
How about I piss on your shoes and tell you it's raining?
What you ride doesn't matter. How you ride doesn't matter. It's the fact that you ride that matters. And if you actually believed this 'brotherhood' tripe you're spewing you'd know it applies to every other bike rider on the planet, not just the ones you think are cool.
You've obviously got a chip on your shoulder about sportsbike riders, well fine, you carry on mate. Just be aware that we don't feel the same way about you just because you choose to dress differently and ride something more comfortable than what I'm riding. We're not that shallow.
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Originally posted by Jackal1
Blaah blaah blaah
:D
Wow... a real biker in here! :)
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Originally posted by Swoop
I've been riding since 1991.
Well youngblood, you should just about have the kickstand figured out by now. :rofl
So don't you dare try to tell me I'm not a real biker
Hold your breath and kick when ya say that. I`ll be more impressed.
Make the bad man stop. sheeeesh.
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Originally posted by Habu
Fortunately I beat the rap on that one. The guy in the booth did have a chopped Harley, pony tail, scruffy jeans and a black leather jacket though.
My motorcycle these days has 100 hp, no fairing and cruises at around 100 kph. ;)
LOL Were gonna hold on to them wanted posters just in case. :D
Nice ultra.
You know where a Rotax can be picked up reasonable? Preferably a 447.
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gixer you are not getting it at all.. I tell you that a streetbike is not even close to competitive with single purpose race bikes so you are a pretender when you are riding a pretend race bike and to prove me wrong.... you post pics of.... race bikes. You ride that sidecar rig around town much? LOL the real racers wear neon and look like a rolling commercial so you gotta do it too?
pretenders and silly looking wanna be's Same for accountants on their weekend Harley tho.
160hp was just an example. If we are simply talking about hp and torque you still lose to the cruisers.... Boss hog is 502 hp in stock trim and over 500 ft lbs of torque. Not enough? they are building a V10 viper powered one too.
race? you can't keep up on the worlds fastest dirt flattrack.. the mile... those old tractors are still doing pretty well... and speedway (do they have that there?) racing... that is using some pretty old stuff.
If they dump the silly helmet law or I move I might build another bike tho.
I juat think it is silly to see all these pretend racers running around killing themselves. They can't have any fun on the damn things unless they are breaking the law and they can't compete with real racers on a track. It is just phony.
maybe you bought it just in case an international spy ring needs to be thwarted and your country is needs you to help as the only human capable of doing all those cool motorcycle stunts? Or maybe... the dumb bimbo down the street will think you are just riding it to the track.
lazs
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Jakal... crashed an ultralight and scrapped it out years ago... still have the rotax. I believe it is a 447 bout 50 hp?
Want it?
lazs
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Sounds good.
How much we talking here?
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email me... probly little or nothing.
lazs
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Not sure if I'm a "biker" in a meaning you guys are discussing but anyways Here's (http://www.kolumbus.fi/staga/biker.jpg) 30y old pic of me in my leathers :D
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Originally posted by Jackal1
Well youngblood, you should just about have the kickstand figured out by now. :rofl
Ok.....since you brought it up.
As someone who is under the impression he 'speaks the language' perhaps you could clarify what you're talking about here since there is no such thing as a kickstand.
Are you referring to the kick start (which my bike doesnt have - starter motor dontchaknow)?
Or the center stand (which my bike also doesnt have - no need for the extra weight dontchaknow)?
Or the side stand?
Maybe it's just cultural difference, we call em side stands, you call em kick stands.
Wassat? Oh, sorry, you were merely trying to take the piss and didn't really mean to engage in a conversation about modern bikes?
Ok then. I'll leave ya to your cool world of cool people in which you're a biker even though you dont ride anymore. :rolleyes:
We've a word for people like you in Britain: Snob.
I'd never even think of trying to spew forth the crap you're coming out with to the kids I teach to ride, they're the bikers of tomorrow and I don't give a crap what they choose to ride. If I saw even so much as a moped broken down at the side of the road I'd stop to assist and so would most other British bikers, sportsbikers or otherwise. What other criteria do you have for people to join your little circle of 'friends'?
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And to lighten this topic...
(http://koti.mbnet.fi/staga/pics/bike_in_bed.jpg)
I know some "bombers" and I think some of you would be surprised about the "skillz" of those wannabe bikers... :D
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electric starters are really cool... that way women and weak men can ride too.
lazs
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Originally posted by lazs2
email me... probly little or nothing.
lazs
Done. It`s otw and thanks.
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Found a pic of Lazs in '70s... not a pretty sight...
Picture; not for Airhead (http://www.kolumbus.fi/staga/lahetkoviivoille.jpg)
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447 is an out of production engine. I would recommend you get a 503 instead. They are very common and the parts are easier to obtain. They are a little more powerful but are also quite light. It is a two stroke and air cooled. You need to overhaul them every 300 hours or so but that is not too expensive as you basically just open them up de coke them and check the bearings.
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not sure if this motor is a 447 or 503 how do I tell the difference?
lazs
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Originally posted by Swoop
Ok.....since you brought it up.
As someone who is under the impression he 'speaks the language' perhaps you could clarify what you're talking about here since there is no such thing as a kickstand.
Are you referring to the kick start (which my bike doesnt have - starter motor dontchaknow)?
Or the center stand (which my bike also doesnt have - no need for the extra weight dontchaknow)?
Or the side stand?
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Probably looks similar to this............:D
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/22_1109171038_kickstand.jpeg)
Just look around a little bit, I`m sure you will stumble across it.... I mean with you being a qualilified instructor and all. :D
Ya know I knew this guy that decided he was going to become an instrutor. Probably one of the most haphazard riders I`ve ever known. Couldn`t pour pizz out of a boot with the directions on the bottom. Anyway, he got all certified up, complete with custom walnut frame for the documentation, all the whistle, bells, etc.
He was all set up on a giant parking lot with the cones, etc in place to teach the mere mortals the ins and outs of basic motorcycle operation and safety.
To make a long story short, while doing a demonstration at about 15 mph he hit a small puddle left over from a shower the night before. He lost it and broke his right leg. His "students" carried his no riding *** to the hospital to get a cast. Fricken hilarious. :D
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Originally posted by lazs2
not sure if this motor is a 447 or 503 how do I tell the difference?
lazs
It doesn`t really matter for what I have in mind. Either will work.
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Originally posted by Staga
Found a pic of Lazs in '70s... not a pretty sight...
Picture; not for Airhead (http://www.kolumbus.fi/staga/lahetkoviivoille.jpg)
Another one when he was younger.
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This site has them but it is in French. You can tell by the picture the difference. A 503 has a fan on the back and it starts up to cool the engine when the prop is not turning or when the engine is too hot. The top of the engine is covered in a sheet metal cover to direct the air over the cylinder.Very good light engine comparision website. (http://airaile.free.fr/moteur_ulm.htm)
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Heh These (http://www.kolumbus.fi/staga/munbomber.jpg) guys would pass Jackal and Lazs driving rear wheel and standing at the saddle at 200kmh...Well maybe not standing at that speed :D
Anyways they are usually driving Japanese bikes (sometime even Buell and British, even Triumph Rocket) and some of bikes are also "pimped"... neon colours, graphics... you know, kinda like cars in 2fast2furious or what was that film...
But You'd be fool if you'd think those guys don't know how to drive or that they would be sissies.
(http://www.kolumbus.fi/staga/b1_rocket.jpg)
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"Jackal, just because you've got mates doesn't mean you're any more of a biker than anyone else.
I've been riding since 1991. A qualified motorcycle instructor since 1994. A proud member of the Wolves Outlaws Motorcycle Club since 1993. And I've never owned anything but sportsbikes.
So don't you dare try to tell me I'm not a real biker just because I prefer a machine with the performance of a Ferrari rather than some old clunker based on 1950s tractor technology.
How about I piss on your shoes and tell you it's raining?
What you ride doesn't matter. How you ride doesn't matter. It's the fact that you ride that matters. And if you actually believed this 'brotherhood' tripe you're spewing you'd know it applies to every other bike rider on the planet, not just the ones you think are cool.
You've obviously got a chip on your shoulder about sportsbike riders, well fine, you carry on mate. Just be aware that we don't feel the same way about you just because you choose to dress differently and ride something more comfortable than what I'm riding. We're not that shallow. "
Swoop you are absolutely right mate. Jackle you got it so wrong.
All this "I'm a real biker you're not " is a loadof complete B*ll*x Do you know how bloody daft you sound right now?
:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
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You know Indian Larry died trying to do some stunts on his chopper last fall. Lost his balance and landed on his head. No helmet.
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Originally posted by Zulu7
Swoop you are absolutely right mate. Jackle you got it so wrong.
All this "I'm a real biker you're not " is a loadof complete B*ll*x Do you know how bloody daft you sound right now?
Don`t know so much about that bud, but what i do know is you keep proving how clueless you are with every post.
You are not, never have been or never will be a biker. You are a motorcycle enthusiast........at best. Just chill , buy yourself some new dayglo apparel and keep your head up. :D
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Staga, we have a word for that also. It`s roadkill. :)
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Lazs2,
I give up, you have such a closed mind towards anything or anyone else on any subject even including bikes. And you have such pre concieved ideas about others and what that ride,don't ride, do or not do that this whole discussion is a waste of time. You fail to see my point completely and just blindly label me as some neon wannabe racer when I have 15 years experience racing on dirt and the track. From 125's to 1000's, solo's,sidecars and occasionally old classics.
Usually people who ride bikes don't care what your riding you still get a salute and a wave as your both enjoying what motorcycling is about. Yet for some reason you seem bitter towards anything or anyone other then cruisers.
And boast that some custome bike being built has a V10 Viper Engine in it, strange.
...-Gixer
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Originally posted by Jackal1
Don`t know so much about that bud, but what i do know is you keep proving how clueless you are with every post.
You are not, never have been or never will be a biker. You are a motorcycle enthusiast........at best. Just chill , buy yourself some new dayglo apparel and keep your head up. :D
Jackal1 on his scoot.
(http://www.lewisart.biz/pix/biker.jpg)
What he thinks he is.
(http://www.ezrabuzzington.com/A%20THEATRE%20PHOTOS/Son%20of%20Biker-art.JPG)
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:rofl
Bwahhahahaa!
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I think we have all learned that hanging out with the bikers doesn't automatically make you a cool guy or a biker :)
I think this guy has much better perspective to the motorcycling than some "bikers" in here... :D
(http://www.kolumbus.fi/staga/nuderider.jpg)
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Awww I hope Airhead wont get a stroke...
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yu guys are sure sensitive about that pretend racer thing... wonder why.
gixer, I didn't say you didn't race. I never said any of the things you claim I did... what I did say was that street sport bikes are not competitive with real single purpose race bikes.
you guys aren't riding race bikes... you are pretending.
lazs
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You're not driving a dragster or classic car; You're just pretending.
I gotta say I don't understand your attitude Lazs; I've driven few different things in my life and those "racers" are one of the funniest and most comfortable things out there.
They steer like a dream, accelerate like a sausage from a shotgun, they are fast as hell and real joy to drive in a curvy road.
Maybe it's just not your "thing" but I like to have fun by throwing a bike from turn to turn and I find those "racers" better for that job than a big BMW or GW (haven't driven a HD yet, couple friends have those too so maybe I try them next summer).
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Jackle
Mate I give up. Just as its a waste of time trying to convince Lazs that a sportbike is a valid form of two wheeler, so its pointless trying convince you to open your mind a tad. Goback to your Badass dudes and I'll continue riding with real bikers.
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Oh well; at least we can post some cool pics of "racers".
I'd love to post some cool "biker" pics but haven't seen any :D
(http://www.kolumbus.fi/staga/BWeekend%20072.jpg)
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Originally posted by Zulu7
Jackle
Mate I give up. Just as its a waste of time trying to convince Lazs that a sportbike is a valid form of two wheeler, so its pointless trying convince you to open your mind a tad. Goback to your Badass dudes and I'll continue riding with real bikers.
Ever considered that the problem your having convincing anyone of anything is that you don`t have a friggen clue about what you are talking about? I`d suggest a little thought on that if I were you.
If you ever do ride with a real biker it will be a big 1st for you bud because you aint gotta clue what one is.
Just jump on that thing you are calling a motorcycle, stick a "how ya like my ass" sticker on the seat of your pants . That way ,when your all jacked up , looking like a **** in a punch bowl, it will at least provide some more humor for those that have a clue.
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Originally posted by lazs2
yu guys are sure sensitive about that pretend racer thing... wonder why.
gixer, I didn't say you didn't race. I never said any of the things you claim I did... what I did say was that street sport bikes are not competitive with real single purpose race bikes.
you guys aren't riding race bikes... you are pretending.
lazs
And if you bothered to read my posts you would of seen what I said about the race bike I use to own and race compared to the sportbikes today.And that there isn't alot of difference between bike off the shelf and a race bike. There use to be but the gap isn't as big today, as the modern 600's and 1000's come with phenominal power to weight ratios off the shelf equivilent to the levels of Superbikes of just a few years ago.
Race bikes come in all levels. Formula 1,,2,& 3 not a big difference. The rider,setup and tyres is a far far bigger factor then a bike with 10kg's less weight and 20 more hp.
We had a track day couple years ago and one of our guys (who is a pro racer for Yamaha) was only a couple secs off the lap record held at the club track riding a stock R1 compared to a race ready R1. And in the wet with med rain tyres he was lapping the same times and still doing 260 in fifth down the back straight.
I know what you mean with the guys in new suits and unmarked knee sliders but that dosn't mean you have to slag them off. Atleast they are wearing the right kind of safety gear which is far more important. I wouldn't ride anywhere without full leathers (whether they be black,pink or orange I don't care) a back protector and sliders. The only pretenders are those idiots who wear shorts and a t-shirt or jeans. And even if they don't use sliders for what they are for it dosn't matter as they are atleast adding extra protection to your knee and the very vulnerable nerve that sits there.
And for those that think it's tougher to ride in limited gear, no matter how tough you think you are in the image you are trying to portray,rebel or sense of freedom the gravel will win and it will make the difference between spending a couple weeks in hospital to a few months or worse.
The biggest concern I have today in motorcycling isn't for one type of bike or another but 40+ guys getting back into motorcycling after their 50's 60's singles days as a teenager and jumping on a modern bike of 100bhp plus and promptly riding into a cliff. Not sure about the US but they count for the highest deaths,injuries and accidents in this country and Australia and it's scary watching them on the road and times.
...-Gixer
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Jackal; I gotta ask... Do you think You have a clue?
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Originally posted by Staga
"racers" better for that job than a big BMW or GW (haven't driven a HD yet, couple friends have those too so maybe I try them next summer).
Speaking of big beamers have you tried the new R1200GS? I had one for the afternoon a few weeks ago and It's amazing on real roads and twisties. Especially if the roads are bumpy very quick bike. Great clearence,handling and torque. One of the most fun bikes I've ever ridden on the road or dirt and seriously thinking about buying one. It's good at everything from touring,twisties,gravel and fire trails.
Never really been into beemers but the new GS is an amazing bike, the 1150GS was good but this is so much better. And probably one of the best all round bikes on the market today.
...-Gixer
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Originally posted by Staga
Jackal; I gotta ask... Do you think You have a clue?
Why? You still searching for one? Looking to buy maybe? Try ebay. :D
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Originally posted by Gixer
The biggest concern I have today in motorcycling isn't for one type of bike or another but 40+ guys getting back into motorcycling after their 50's 60's singles days as a teenager and jumping on a modern bike of 100bhp plus and promptly riding into a cliff. Not sure about the US but they count for the highest deaths,injuries and accidents in this country and Australia and it's scary watching them on the road and times.
...-Gixer
I offered my dad a test drive few years ago with a GSX-R 750; he did ask how much is that bike having power and when I replied he took a step back and said "Hell no" :D
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Originally posted by Gixer
Speaking of big beamers have you tried the new R1200GS? I had one for the afternoon a few weeks ago and It's amazing on real roads and twisties. Especially if the roads are bumpy very quick bike. Great clearence,handling and torque. One of the most fun bikes I've ever ridden on the road or dirt and seriously thinking about buying one. It's good at everything from touring,twisties,gravel and fire trails.
Never really been into beemers but the new GS is an amazing bike, the 1150GS was good but this is so much better. And probably one of the best all round bikes on the market today.
...-Gixer
Haven't driven new ones; K100RS was newest (and R35 oldest...). That wasn't as nimble as GSX-R but it was much more comfortable at highways; it was like a train and didn't need any "driving". Heh actually it was quite boring bike; it was so pleasant to drive with plenty of torque from down low due the fuel injection :)
btw... Has BMW learnt to build turn-light switches yet?
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Originally posted by Jackal1
Why? You still searching for one? Looking to buy maybe? Try ebay. :D
Naah; you were just acting like a 10y old kid who thinks only his toys are cool but maybe you're just a ignorant fool.
Next to our clubhouse is two MC-clubs and we've had fun drinking and using our club's sauna; even if guys are driving HDs they can also enjoy "racers" and even Russian Zündapp/BMW copies (crappiest bikes you can imagine).
Then again they are Bikers and not "bikers" :)
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Yep staga you do seem tohave a clue. As does swoop.
Jackle you are a bit fixated with the homosexual thing aren't you? Bit repressed maybe?
That 1200 bandit with the glowing pipes is hillarious. Few years ago a group of us went to Brands Hatch for the WSB. Back in the Foggy era. Some guys there had C50 motors on welded up stands, taped the throttlles wide open and waited to see what happened. The bang was very big. Heard a guy playing tunes with a Duke at Spa Francorchamps one year too. He was hitting the rev limiter and using the kill switch to cause backfires as percussion. Not something I'd do with my engine but entertaining to watch/listen.
My specialty used to stunting but that was when I was younger crazier, and my bikes were the matt black knackered cheap as sh*t variety. I've too much metal in me and the bikes are way more expensive nowadays.
:D
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Well here's one matte black GSX-R 1100; guess the owner couldn't afford to buy anything else but tar after that sticker in rear swing... MC XPress ;)
(http://www.kolumbus.fi/staga/036_34acopy.jpg)
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yep thats my kind of bike
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Well that one is pushing something like 240hp... :D
http://www.mc-xpress.com/
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I been following the thread, and have ridden bikes since I was 9 years old, and I average 45,000 Km a year on a bike. If Jackal1 is a "real biker" then I am glad I am not, because Jackal1, you sir are an ASS.
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Why thank you Heater. I strive towards perfection in that area. :D
If Jackal1 is a "real biker" then I am glad I am not
Finaly one admits the truth.
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Originally posted by Staga
we've had fun drinking and using our club's sauna
Whoomp, there it is. ROFLMAO
It all becomes clear now. No wonder about all the defensive, sensitive rebuttal.
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Originally posted by Jackal1
Whoomp, there it is. ROFLMAO
It all becomes clear now. No wonder about all the defensive, sensitive rebuttal.
It's clear You really don't have a clue but still want to think so :)
You're just yapping; You're not a biker, You're not cool, You're just a "wannabe" something stuck on your dreams... Personally I don't think You're anything but a "homer".
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Originally posted by Staga
It's clear You really don't have a clue but still want to think so :)
You're just yapping; You're not a biker, You're not cool, You're just a "wannabe" something stuck on your dreams... Personally I don't think You're anything but a "homer".
Well RUB I tell ya. If ya get your nerves all tore up aboutit you can always go jump into the sauna with the guys and cry on one of em`s shoulder.
Bikers in the sauna together. Sheeeesh you guys have some weird bellybutton definitions of things over there .
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Originally posted by Staga
Haven't driven new ones; K100RS was newest (and R35 oldest...). That wasn't as nimble as GSX-R but it was much more comfortable at highways; it was like a train and didn't need any "driving". Heh actually it was quite boring bike; it was so pleasant to drive with plenty of torque from down low due the fuel injection :)
btw... Has BMW learnt to build turn-light switches yet?
K100RS was a good bike though the 1100RS was heaps better, I had a K100RS for a year and did alot of touring around NZ and Aussie on it, for eating long miles at a fast pace and carrying heaps of gear it was great. Though it was a tad boring to ride compared to my Guzzi and felt abit too computer like. The GS's are totally different and streets ahead of the old K series on or off road. Infact I think it's one of the best performing and handling bikes BMW have ever made.
If you can take one for a test ride, though you'll probably not want to take it back.
Funny I never found the light switches a problem on the K series and always prefered them over anything else. Especially comapred to Suzuki switches at that time, or the tempremental Italian electrics.
...-Gixer
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btw EVERY club who thinks they're worth of something has sauna in Finland; one of the finest was Finnish Mopar Association''s sauna...
(http://www.kolumbus.fi/staga/fma_penta.jpg)
Sonny You made yourself a fool but guess that's nothing new for you :)
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Wow this thread got nasty quick. Vintage O club I suppose.
But thinking on bikes got me all nostalgic for my old LC. Here's a pic I googled, not mine but identical. :) .
(http://www.lcclub.co.uk/images/183.jpg)
And here's my favourite view but look at the mileage on that bike.
(http://www.kalliness.shetland.co.uk/originart/bikes/pics/rzr4.jpg)
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Originally posted by Staga
btw EVERY club who thinks they're worth of something has sauna in Finland; one of the finest was Finnish Mopar Association''s sauna...
Sonny You made yourself a fool but guess that's nothing new for you :)
OH............. lmao.... It...... gets better and better . You guys shower together too?
Geeez no wonder all the pinks, purples and dayglo greens, etc.
EVERY club who thinks they're worth of something has sauna in Finland
Thinks being the key word here.
I like the "Sonny" part also. :rofl
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Originally posted by Gixer
Funny I never found the light switches a problem on the K series and always prefered them over anything else. Especially comapred to Suzuki switches at that time, or the tempremental Italian electrics.
...-Gixer
I didn't like the system where You had to use both thumbs for turning lights (blinkers?); I thought Japanese style left/right and press for release was better (at least for me and my coordination).
Borrowed my friend's Guzzi sometimes and I can agree with Italian electrics; frigging starter get stuck if you kept button pressed for more than 1/100secs... kinda hard to get engine running at the cold autumn morning...
Wonderfull piece of machinery otherwise but they should use electric parts from Bosch :D
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And Jackal just keeps yapping. Oh well; at least he can do something :)
/ignore jackal :)
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btw Jackal;
You can be 100y old but with attitude like that You're a "sonny" for me.
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Originally posted by Staga
And Jackal just keeps yapping. Oh well; at least he can do something :)
/ignore jackal :)
Knew you couldn`t hang RUB.
I tell ya what, I`ll keep you in mind around the holidays. Maybe send you and your buds some Rose oil or something to share in the sauna together. I`m just assuming ya`ll do aroma therapy together also. :rofl
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I don't remember the mail address; maybe You could bring the stuff yourself, I'll ask someone to pick you from airport :)
Then we all could take nice, relaxing sauna and think what went wrong in Your youth :)
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cpxxx
"Ring ding a ding a ding ding ding bwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaarh"
:aok
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Originally posted by Staga
I don't remember the mail address; maybe You could bring the stuff yourself, I'll ask someone to pick you from airport :)
Then we all could take nice, relaxing sauna and think what went wrong in Your youth :)
Naw, I`lll just ship the stuff, but thanks anyway.
I`m pretty sure seeing as you`re as sensitive' as you are , I`d be afraid I might send ya into a panic attack. Then it would just be more intense "encounter group" sessions in the sauna for ya. :D
Besides that , pink and purple is just not my color. I`m all out of Gucci accessories and i don`t own a Rolex. :D
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Originally posted by Zulu7
cpxxx
"Ring ding a ding a ding ding ding bwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaarh"
:aok
Yes but it would only bwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaa between 6000 and 8500 RPM. Below that it was all ring a ding. You had to ride it fast, (Officer :rolleyes: ) to keep it in the powerband. But I did find it weaved a bit on long curves at about 90. One of the best bikes of the eighties and the most stolen. Ask any robber, it was the ideal getaway bike. Mine did two armed robberies that I'm aware of. (I have an alibi, Officer) and had a new identity stamped on the frame.
I used to get stopped a lot because of the way I rode it. I even dressed like on a robber. If I stopped outside a Building Society or a Newsagent, you could see the staff looking nervously out the window. Ah happy happy days. I wonder if I could pick up a decent one somewhere. I thrashed mine to death.
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They are still about. Try buying a copy of classic bike guide magazine. Many will need restoration work as they weren't that tough and as you say were soundly ridden ( thrashed ):D they aint that cheap though.
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Some posters need to give up bikes and start buying lots of mirrors, they'll get a lot more rush out of it.
Lazs you're blocking and rationalizing all the way.
Either taste is arbitrary, or only one type of bike is acceptable; they're exclusive.
de coloribus et gustibus non disputandum
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expand upon this statement please!?:confused:
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I dunno, do you feel concerned?
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Explaining the latin quote without making me go look it up would be nice......
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You shouldn't argue about colours and tastes.
Ex oriente lux
(Light will come from east ;) )
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Originally posted by cpxxx
Yes but it would only bwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaa between 6000 and 8500 RPM. Below that it was all ring a ding. You had to ride it fast, (Officer :rolleyes: ) to keep it in the powerband. But I did find it weaved a bit on long curves at about 90. One of the best bikes of the eighties and the most stolen. Ask any robber, it was the ideal getaway bike. Mine did two armed robberies that I'm aware of. (I have an alibi, Officer) and had a new identity stamped on the frame.
I used to get stopped a lot because of the way I rode it. I even dressed like on a robber. If I stopped outside a Building Society or a Newsagent, you could see the staff looking nervously out the window. Ah happy happy days. I wonder if I could pick up a decent one somewhere. I thrashed mine to death.
A bike as a getaway ride sure worked great for this guy... (http://www.big-boys.com/articles/copmotor.html)
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I guess it boils down to taste. I think that the sport bikes are hidious looking. I think road race bikes are hidious looking too... boring and plastic and gaudy.
Street bikes aren't race bikes and they would go just as fast if they didn't look exactly like a dayglo race bike... they are pretenders.
To me.. it is like a car coming out that looked exactly like a NASCAR ride. Or... puting headlights and soft suspension and a licence plate on a formula one car. sure... it would be very capable and you would probly be safer in you nomex suit and helmet and 5 point harness and all but...
You would be a pretender... You may be able to go around corners faster than the family sedan and convince us all how fcomfortable your formula one car wanna be is and how it is "just like" the real F1 car but... you are a pretender
I guess I just like things that don't pretend to be something they are not unless it is the other way around.... I like something that doesn't look that capable but really is... we call them "sleepers"
your phony formula car will never compete with a real one on the track.
To sumarize... I think that it is all pretty phony and a fad. I also think they are smurfy... I would rather talk to a guy on an old moto guzzi than one on a brand new neon sport bike.
Sport bikes are like the old superbird plymouths or dodge daytona things with the hemis and huge wings and such that were sold some decades back.... very fast cars good stuff in em but phony race cars with the whole race car look... incapable of competing with a real race car.
I am not uninterested in the tech of them but... no sport bike would grab my eye or hold my interest half as long parked next to an old indian or sqariel or even a earls fork BMW or 40 inch beezer or trumpet. The cookie cutter evolution Harleys hardly get a glance from either. Can't even figure out how people know which one is thiers.
I could not get up any pride of ownership with a sport bike. But... that's just me I guess.
lazs
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Originally posted by lazs2
I could not get up any pride of ownership with a sport bike. But... that's just me I guess.
lazs
Why would anyone be proud owning a bike? Well maybe if it's a mint condition Vincent or similar but for newer bike?
I've always thought the fun thing is driving your whatever and enjoying it and not just owning something but guess that's just me.
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Good context, but not everyone will have it.
If money wasn't an issue, I'd use a ferrari 360 for everything.
Guess if I could have a supermodel wife (another matter of taste as to which one), her dropping and braking things and saying stupid things, I wouldn't mind.
It's just a car/bike, I don't expect more than a good ride from it. Anything else is icing on the cake.
Most likely the majority of riders just want to ride, the only criteria for this being that the tool under their steak is a functional tool, this determined by the intended use.
And you could very well have someone with a taste for variety keeping anything in his garage.
Would you selectively ignore that guy on the days he rides your less preferable bikes?
empty banter :-)
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Now here's the Bike I'd be proud to have... alas, I don't think I'm going to carry such moneys anytime soon...
Maybe I could buy a HD and pretend it's a Vincent :)
(http://www.kolumbus.fi/staga/1948_Vincent_HRD_Rapide.jpg)
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Originally posted by lazs2
I guess it boils down to taste.
By jove I think he's got it!
Yup, it's taste matey. You seem to think sportsbikers are all wannabe racers. I think a sportsbike is the most capable machine legally allowed on the road and choose to ride one exclusively.
Taste.
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Age
40: 81 Honda CX500D
41: 2001 Honda Sabre
(http://www.airmageddon.com/images/Honda/Sabre4.JPG)
Helmets: I wear one.. even if it weren't by law. Should be rider's choice.
Other types of bikes... If I see you, you get a wave.. no matter what. Just please don't drive in a manner to give all bikers ( motorcycle riders, for you purists ) a bad name.
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Nice Saber.
Honda is putting out some really good looking bikes of late.
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Thanks.
I had been looking to upgrade ( wife said I could have a newer one after I got my license ).. saw this beaut on the consignment floor of the local dealer.. and with the Corbin seat, it fit perfectly.
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swoop... the taste part comes in where the capable leaves off. I like older stuff but enjoy capable new stuff...
I simply see no excuse for all the plastic on the 'capable' sport bike. I think all that crap not only looks silly and pretentious (imitation racer) but it makes the bike less useful not more... It would be just as capable without all the phonieness.
The guy at work has both a 160 hp road king and a screwedzuki 1000 neon warrior. He tells me that after all this time he still agrees with my premis that the "sport bike" is no fun at all unless you are breaking laws or on the edge of killing yourself.
weather it be a plymouth superbird or a sport bike.... the phony racer aspect takes away from the experiance. I think you guys look like pretenders on em and so do most. That may not be what is happening but that is what it looks like.
perhaps the only way you can own a capable bike is to whip out the credit card and take what ever neon palatic wrapped pretend racer is this years most capable.
lazs
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Originally posted by lazs2
I simply see no excuse for all the plastic on the 'capable' sport bike. I think all that crap not only looks silly and pretentious (imitation racer) but it makes the bike less useful not more... It would be just as capable without all the phonieness.
No it wouldn't.
It's called aerodynamics mate. And you know exactly what I'm talking about here.
That CBR I mentioned earlier.....after the crash it got repaired and the owner was riding it around with no 'plastic' on it for a while. He got invited to a magazine shoot for Performance Bikes.....took his bike through the timing lights with everyone else's CBRs and his went 15mph slower.....purely due to not having the plastic on.
You think it's not needed and looks silly. I don't think it looks silly and that it's absolutely paramount.
Here comes that personal taste thingy again......
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P.S. Oh and believe me now, I have fun on my bike every damn day and have a totally clean licence. Plus, it may be covered in plastic but that plastic is blue and white matey, no neon in sight.
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LOL! now I get it... your street bike would only do 175 MPH instead of 190 mph if you removed all the garbage... I mean.... real race bikes need that last 15mph (arguable since a plasticless boosa had the best top speed at the Texas mile) and..
since you buzz it on up to 190 mph so muchn more often than you ride to the store you really do need that extra last little bit... what is a little discomfort and silliness compared to the joy of 190 or the agony of bein humiliated going 175 while the other sport bikes are passing you at 190?
lazs
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Lazs mate, you don't know enough about this stuff.
My GSX-R600 will do around 160mph. Not 190mph. That's Honda Blackbird / Suzuki Hayabusa territory and those aren't sportsbikes, those are sports-tourers (marketing men wouldn't agree, they call em hypersportsbikes) that go very fast in a straight line and get all squirly at the sight of a corner.
My bike goes round corners like it's on rails cos it's lighter, only a 600cc machine, 350lbs without me on it. You'll find the smaller and lighter the bike the better it'll corner, Aprillia RS125s are probably the fastest cornering bikes on the planet but they wont go much over a ton in a straight line, downhill with a tailwind.
Now think about this some more mate. If the air resistance of an unfaired bike will slow it's top speed then it'll also slow it's acceleration as well. Right? No traffic law in this country mentions acceleration. The speed limit might be 60mph (for example) but I get there from a standing start in under 3 seconds and Mr Plod can't do anything about it.
I also much prefer the protection from wind you get on a faired bike over an unfaired. Mate of mine once rode an unfaired Suzuki bandit over to Holland for a visit and we both rode back to Blighty.......ok, he's a big lad (6'4", 280lbs) but damn......the weather wasnt great and he was acting like a sail with no fairing to deflect the wind away. This is at motorway cruising speeds (100mph ish - attitude to speed isn't quite the same in Britain as it is in Europe or the US. At 100mph you'll still have people overtaking you).
No so, it's not just about top end speed however, to quote you once more "you really do need that extra last little bit". Nope, I don't need it. I want it.
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Originally posted by Swoop
Nope, I don't need it. I want it.
:aok :aok :aok
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Lazs it is a moot point as a matter of fact, so being up to taste, why argue it?
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Because arguing seems like the main point of the OC part of the BBs?? Its fun??
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Few years back I loaned my friend's "plastic bike"; I needed to get a lift and got his K100.
It was late autumn, temp was something like 7-10c at evening and I was wearing a suit with walking shoes.
I was going to drive to home to get driving gears on but after few kms I headed straight to the highway 'cause all I felt was warm air coming from radiator...
So I rather drive a "plastic bike" and not a stripped down version, thank you.
Hell in Finland it's not unusual to see a Biker driving when it's snowing; I'd love to see Lazs driving at such circumstances without windshields etc.
I didn't think I'd ever say this but Lazs; You really don't have a clue.
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No, no, no. Be nice to Lazs, he's trying he's just gotton the wrong impression and thinks all plastic bikes are the same. Plus, since he lives in California he'll have no experience of riding in the conditions we ride in every day.
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Last bike was a Kawasaki ZX-10R. Down 15 in a right turn lane when a 16 yo in a Toyota Sequoia decided she just HAD to be where I was. Had to put the bike down, THEN she finished a right hand turn and ran me over with both right side wheels. That was a two day stay in the hospital.
Nine days later some wonk breaks into a friends garage where my bike is hanging out while I heal. The key got jammed in by the tank bag, so he sees a very nice bike with a key in the ignition...takes the friend's Hayabusa out, rides off with my Kawasaki...
...about two weeks later I get a call from the Denver police. They found my bike next to the guy who stole it...
Before:
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and after:
(http://events.hitechcreations.com/rside.jpg)
I'll probably get an '05 GSXR-1000 in a month or so. Need a new helmet and a jacket, too. My Arai took its one hit and my jacket got cut off at the scene. For some reason they took the boots and pants off at the ER rather than cutting them off. Quite nice of them if you ask me.
I've had the Kawi up to 158 indicated, but that was only 4th gear. I had it to 109 indicated in first just to see if I could and where the RPM limiter is. I could keep up with the 'busa in corners (you CAN corner a Hayabusa, you just have to work hard at it) but it walks away from me in the straights. You just can't argue with that much torque.
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Zulu you should look up the word "absurd".
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Originally posted by Swoop
heh, posted while I was still editing......
I'm the last two in your list. Are there actually that many who fit the bill for choice one?
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Me. I rode 1,000,000 miles, parked it, and have not been on one since. I figure hitting that mileage without putting it down pushed the odds farther than most will be able to.
Do I miss it? Damn right I do. Not a nice day goes by where I look out the window and think, "Damn, what a day for a ride!"
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interesting... so not being able to go past 150 mph for lack of plastic is one reason? I am sure that if you put some hidious fairing afair on the turn signals you could pick up a mph or two... I am sure that some of the junk on there is more hindering than helpful to top speed if that is all you are concerned about.
I still maintain that you are spending a whole lot more time cruising than going over 150mph.
staga... if all you own is a motorcycle then maybe you would want the most plastic around you that you could get for staying warm in the snow but how much of a sport bikes capability can yu use in the snow? 5%? You would be more comfoprtable, safer and... have more performance capability in a car under those conditions. Why bother with a useless phony racer when a 500 dollar car would be ten times better in the snow?
This is the first I have heard that the whole sport bike fairing and plastic neon crap was all put on there so that you would be more comfoirtable in the snow tho... the adds seem to leave out that very i9mportant sales point.
Painting your car like a NASSCAR rainbow and gutting the interior and making it as close to the real racer as possible may some small part to it's capabilities but it still would be an embarassing pretender.
lazs
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Originally posted by lazs2
I still maintain that you are spending a whole lot more time cruising than going over 150mph.
lazs
True enough. I cruise to the places where I go fast, but I also spend more time <120 with the bike leaned over and my butt off the seat than I spend >150. The bit I like about my sport bikes is the insane acceleration that puts me ~120 out of a corner, up to ~160 on the straight, down to ~100 going into the next one, and out at ~120 again. On my friend's 'Busa I don't even shift out of third for that; on the ZX-10 I had to go from third to fourth. Didn't have the beast long enough to get to the places where you can turn on the afterburner.
Don't know about you, but I LIKED my black neon. The new R1 looks better than the GSX-R, but I suspect the Suzuki will outrun it off the line. We'll find out when the test results come in. At the end of the day I'm riding the thing, not looking at it. Do you spend a lot of time in your garage making cow eyes at your vehicles?
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Moot I know the meaning well.
"(adj) Ridiculous: senseless. absurdity (n)"
Ok for you. So whats your point again?
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Originally posted by lazs2
staga... if all you own is a motorcycle then maybe you would want the most plastic around you that you could get for staying warm in the snow but how much of a sport bikes capability can yu use in the snow? 5%? You would be more comfoprtable, safer and... have more performance capability in a car under those conditions. Why bother with a useless phony racer when a 500 dollar car would be ten times better in the snow?
lazs
Lazs; it may be shock to you but at least in here we have A) rainy days and B)chilly days even at spring and fall and then it's quite nice to lower your head behind the Windjammer and press your legs behind the side panels and stay dry and warm if you can keep little speed up.
I think you're a "Good weather biker" who hasn't driven 500km in the rain or cold; if you'd done it with bikes with and without wind shields I'm pretty sure even You would take CBR600 over HD Sportster.
After 50km you'd really praise the guys who designed those silly looking plastic things you despise so much....
btw when was last time you did drive in cold weather..say around 30-40F, with any bike?
Would You rather use this...
(http://www.kolumbus.fi/staga/k100rs.jpg)
or this...
(http://www.mb-privat.de/my_Dream/Z900-002.JPG)
Now be straight...
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This thread has turned into the ridiculous. How many times has Lazs said "Pretender" it must be a record for a thread and someone repeating the same word in every message. I don't care what your opinion is on sportsbikes or any kind of bike that dosn't fit your preconcieved and fixated mind. And that you wish to make your point two or three times that's fair enough. But after that it looks like a childs rant.
With such a narrow focus your missing out on alot of experience and enjoyment. I've ridden everything from 50cc trail bikes and Scooters, to 1200GS Adventure tourers,Cruisers,Cafe Racers,Sportstourers,Sportsbikes ,Race bikes,Speedway Solo's and Sidecars. And I've always found something in all of them that I enjoy. I've never seen another bike on the road and slagged it or the owner off for one reason or another
I can't see why anyone feels the need to get so uptight about one type of bike over another. When at the end of the day your both enjoying bikes for the same reasons.
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Abso, bloody, lutely.
A bike is a bike whatever. And bikers the world over share one thing. A love of bikes and a lifestyle that evolves around them. full stop. Any of these other divisions are minor and of no consequence. If you ride then you are a biker.
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Originally posted by Zulu7
Abso, bloody, lutely.
If you ride then you are a biker.
BOOOOnnnnnnGGGG!!! Wrong answer.
You may be a motorcycle enthusiasts or a yup or a RUB on two wheels, but riding a bike a biker does nor make. Big difference, even in your country.
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Well all I know is Jackal is a elitist homer and he couldn't be farther from biker.
Nothing wrong in that; somebody's just gotta be homer or we'd have to change our club's name :)
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Originally posted by Jackal1
BOOOOnnnnnnGGGG!!! Wrong answer.
You may be a motorcycle enthusiasts or a yup or a RUB on two wheels, but riding a bike a biker does nor make. Big difference, even in your country.
So what's your definition of a "Biker" someone who only rides an American cruiser with no helmet?
What absolute rubbish.
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I'd say it's attitude and lifestyle and Jackal is missing 2 out of 2.
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Originally posted by Gixer
So what's your definition of a "Biker" someone who only rides an American cruiser with no helmet?
What absolute rubbish.
...-Gixer
Hee Hee. Gonna ask the question and answer it to suit yourself , heh? Okie Doke.
There is and old saying.... If you have to ask, then you wouldn`t understand.
You wouldn`t understand.
I like this "cruiser" thing ya`ll keep throwing around . lol
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Originally posted by Jackal1
Hee Hee. Gonna ask the question and answer it to suit yourself , heh? Okie Doke.
There is and old saying.... If you have to ask, then you wouldn`t understand.
You wouldn`t understand.
I like this "cruiser" thing ya`ll keep throwing around . lol
Please don't try the "you wouldn't understand" nonsense, that's just pathetic. So what's your definition of a biker that we are all so sadly missing?
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I know the world Jackal is living in :)
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"iffffff ya wanna be a biiiiiiiiiiird"
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Originally posted by Gixer
Please don't try the "you wouldn't understand" nonsense, that's just pathetic. So what's your definition of a biker that we are all so sadly missing?
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Told ya, you wouldn`t understand. :D
If you have to ask you are SOL.
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Originally posted by Staga
I know the world Jackal is living in
You are not even remotely familiar with the neighborhood RUB. You couldn`t speak the language with a translator and a handbook.
:D
Staga quotes.........
Why would anyone be proud owning a bike
I was wearing a suit with walking shoes.
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Originally posted by Jackal1
Told ya, you wouldn`t understand. :D
If you have to ask you are SOL.
Now that's the reply of someone who is full of BS has been watching too many movies and taking in the opinions of his mates as he has no real experience himself. You certinly come across that way as you have no idea at all on how to explain your opinon to the rest of us. Which is suprising given how basic the question is.
Seems to me the only pretender here that Lazs keeps on going on and on and on about, is you.
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HeHE. Then I must be a helluva pretender bud. I have lived, ate, slept it for many , many years. My life, my world. Something that if tryed to be explained to someone like you who has never even been close to that world would be similar to trying to explain a nuclear reaction to a first grader. It can`t be done.
Thus the old saying......If you have to ask, you wouldn`t understand. That`s about as close as it gets.
Sorry I can`t fullfill your fantasies for ya in text, but it is impossible.
If you ride a motorcycle like the ones you ride and it makes you happy, then that is what should concern you. I find them repulsive to the point of being totaly comical. You evidently find them pleasurable. Your choice, My choice. Your world, my world. Motorcycle enthusiast, biker. They are world apart.
If your happy, I`m tickled chitless.
Life`s a ***** , deal with it.
:D
I`m gonna assume here that you just didn`t jump in this thread without reading it so you would at least have your facts straight. Part of what you are asking has allready been explained. If you don`t grasp or understand that, you are certainly not the first in this thread, so don`t feel bad about it. You can`t understand something that you have never experienced.
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You know my Dad's 72 still owns and rides bikes on a daily basis (mainly british singles and twins) since he was 15 and spent a good 20 years racing them as well . Yet he dosn't hold an opinion like yours when it comes to bikes and others no matter what they ride.
However old you are and the experience you like to think you have you act like a wanabe child in some sort of fantasy.
...-Gixer
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Originally posted by Gixer
You know my Dad's 72 still owns and rides bikes on a daily basis (mainly british singles and twins) since he was 15 and spent a good 20 years racing them as well . Yet he dosn't hold an opinion like yours when it comes to bikes and others no matter what they ride.
...-Gixer
Just exactly what opinion do you beleive I hold when it comes to bikes and others?
However old you are and the experience you like to think you have you act like a wanabe child in some sort of fantasy.
Bud I don`t have to "think I have" when it comes to experience. I`ve lived it. I think maybe I may have given you a little too much credit on reading the thread. And yea, I`d love to be a child. :D
Ask yourself this? Just exactly what is that`s bothering you about this that makes you so defensive and makes you come off as some kid holding their breath till they turn blue and scream "AM TOO". Can`t everybody be everything and everything comes with a price. In this case dues and I`ve more than paid mine. ;)
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Jackal = Straiga
Imagined his own rules and made himself the exception.
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moot= round peg trying to squirm into a square hole
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Originally posted by moot
Jackal = Straiga
Imagined his own rules and made himself the exception.
Agreed. Total BS.
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Originally posted by XNachoX
Agreed. Total BS.
Another one of the Dayglo Boyz? :D
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Jackal I don't give a **** what floats your boat, nor what you think should mine.
You have your thing, and I have mine, and everyone else theirs - everyone's happy.
Or are they? I am and Gixer seems to be, yet you and others are irritated anyone else could disagree.
It's when you make definite rules in the wet medium that is taste that it turns to BS.
If anything, I think it's you that's round trying for a square fit; whether you've been doing it long enough to've persuaded yourself of it or not.
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staga.. this is interesting... you have the platic bodies on the bikes because it is cold there and they bring up enough heat to keep you warm in sub zero temps... that is fine with me... good reason. I have froze myu butt off on bikes in 30 degree weather. It was not comfortable... I envied the people going by me in cars with heaters.
but... how would that explain the U.S. expoeriance with our pretenders? (yes gixer I used pretender again because it strikes a nerve)...
It must be dnates inferno for us when it is 100 degrees plus in the shade and you are in a smelly helmet and full leathers. Maybe they can put air conditooning on em? I just rode a kawi 900 that a friend is restoring... it is just as fast and drappy handlin as I remmeber it being.
puck... I am not sure what you meant by cruising to a place to go so fast... if you are doing it on streets why? You could do better having a friend trailer a real race bike for you and ride a comfortable bike to the races. I know people who do.
Again... pretenders... you aren't race bike riders on the streets and you are riding uncomfortable bikes that are no fun unless they are breaking the law... You are doing it only for those few times that you can use the performance and the rest of the time you are just looking silly and being uncomfortable.
I guess I don't understand the whole idea of having something that is LESS capable than it looks. This is completely backward to me as I have allways strived to make vehicles that looked realtively harmless and packed a big punch. You are doing the oppossite... you are pretending to be a racer on a bike that is less capable than what it looks like and you are dressing like you are a race bike competitor when you are not capable..
There are exceptions to the latter... gixer I am sure, is a true racer with the skills to back up the outfit but 99% are not in the same league yet... wear the pretender gear in all of it's neon glory... They want people to think they are racers and that their bikes are race bikes. I may use pretender a lot but... what fit's better?
And... I have pulled up to a group of these guys at the bar at the top of the hill... I feel no kinship with them at all and they none with me.. I have experianced the ride and the country in a whole different manner than they have (I think that is what jackal means).. I have smelled and seen more than the white line blur and the inside of a tuna fish smelling full face helmet.
lazs
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Why am I doing this?
Ok.. same for Hot Rods... when I pull up to a bunch of Hot rods and the old guys are around em polishing the candy pearl paint and billet whatevers.... I start to feel a kinship till I realize that they are not in THEIR Hot Rods... they bought em/had em built exactly like I see em... with automatic transmissions so they won't tire their leg to boot. They don't know even what parts were used to build their car.
having two wheels don't make you my brother... having a hot rod doesn't either.
lazs
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the hole brotherhood/prison girlies bondage thing is a snooze.
You might think riders as a whole share some sort of spiritual link, but the fact is that beyond riding, they might as well have nothing in common, they might as well be, say, cagers.
Brotherhood of riders is just an opportune thing that's facilitated into acceptance the same way nationalist vibes are almost guaranteed to ring true between stranded foreigners.. it's accessory.
Return home and the two previously accomplice people will have no reason not to cross over differences.
Lazs you mix argument with taste.
I look at any bike and see it for what it is, a bike with such and such performance and such and such comfort, etc. If you think that such or such bit of plastic or "sleeper material" means anything else than what each person interprets from it, you're just fooling yourself.
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nm, I see what you mean.
The ad hominem thing still doesnt hold up as more than that, tho.
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moot... you are correct.. if you put nothing into it it becomes nothing but a machine.
Those who put into their hobby do tend to have things in common tho.
lazs
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Originally posted by moot
Jackal I don't give a **** what floats your boat, nor what you think should mine.
You have your thing, and I have mine, and everyone else theirs - everyone's happy.
Or are they? I am and Gixer seems to be, yet you and others are irritated anyone else could disagree.
LMAO You guys really don`t read the thread do ya? You just jump in and start finger flinging because you spot one thing that hits your sensitive side I guess.
I stated basicaly the same thing you said in your first line. I`ll repeat it ...I`m tickled chitless. That clear enough? :D
Irratated? What do you presume to think I`m irratated about. I haven`t had this much fun since my mother-in-law blew away in the outhouse. :D
After all the holding of breath, kicking and screamin and the yelling of "AM TOO" in text form here, I don`t believe it us who are irratated, but the other way around.
If your happy out in the general public , riding a riing diinger with your *** sticking up in the air, adorned with dayglo and humped over looking like a monkey fekin a football, please continue on. Just don`t claim to be a biker . You are a motorcycle enthusiast, a Yup or a RUB on wheels.
Is there something that you find wrong with "motorcycle enthusiasts"?
You might think riders as a whole share some sort of spiritual link, but the fact is that beyond riding, they might as well have nothing in common, they might as well be, say, cagers.
I totaly agree with you on this.With Riders or motorcycle enthusiasts, Yups on wheels or RUBs that`s just the way it is. With bikers it`s a whole different story. That`s the BIG difference.
the hole brotherhood/prison girlies bondage thing is a snooze.
Here we have a classic example of Hollyweird`s influence. I couldn`t begin to tell you how hilarious I find that statement. That class B stereotype is a little long in the tooth. Most folks try to think for themselves and form their own opinions. Too many movies and too much BS for you bud. It just , once again, proves my point. Some are posting here on a subject that they know absolutely nothing about.
What I find mildly amusing is, if that is your view or opinion of a biker, then why would you profess to be one when you are not? It just shows you have no idea what or who bikers are.
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concisely: there's never been any "am too" syntax in my brain before you brought it up, so where else than in yours could it have originated..
token ad hominem:
If you're happy out in the specific public , straddlin a flatulent thumper with your armchap-elbows reaching for the clouds, adorned with beard-jam and laid back looking like a sloth with an anvil case of hangover, please continue on. Just don`t claim to be a biker . You are a motorcycle enthusiast, a Yup or a RUB on wheels.
And to answer your question, I think the premise is bogus.
No more relevant than a 50IQ or preschooler finding pride in his clan, despite said clan being different only in name and fashion.
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i never said I was a biker. I saw a show your ride thread that turned out to be some bogus (desguised or not) testosterone match.
All I know is I liked driving fast, making nice, fast or slow or drifting curves around bends of the road, making long trips to nowhere for days at a time, the stir of the Gs and the great landscapes, and once I tried a bike, it was just begging to replace the cage I'd used for road trips till then.
Social status among other two-wheel riders? You might be motorcycling's Plato, wtf would I care about either.
I just want to eat miles, track or trail or road.
What's strange is I didn't point the prison bondage crack at you, yet you felt concerned.
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Laz brings up a good point concerning the hot rodders. There are pretenders and wannabes, I guess,in everything.
Nothing more fake than someone getting something built then trying to fit in with Old Schoolers whether it be hot rods, scooters or whatever.
I think Old Schoolers is a common bond with a lot of folks that others don`t understand and will never understand. Thus their frustration as not being accepted and they just can`t figure out what the difference is . It gets sorta funny at times, completely sad at times.
Old School has nothing to do with being young or old also. It is a thought process and a way of doing things that brings pride of self accomplishment for one thing.
Mann seemed to have a firm grasp on the subject in his work.He was, after all, Old School to the bone. He will be missed. His combining of Old School scooters and Old School hot rods results in some awesone results that make a big statement to you if you are of that kind.
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Oh well; one Biker from the club near ours called and asked if I'd like to taste some singlemalt whiskies and cognacs with them tonight and continue evening at the clubs and later at the City...
I think we have plenty of interesting things to discuss at the sauna; thanks to Jackal :D
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Just wished I had put a rush on that rose oil shipment. Sorry bud. Maybe by the next time you guys decide to jump in the shower together,....errr I mean suana, it will be there. :D
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Want to find some common ground?
Here is one of Mann`s works.
No matter what you ride, where or how you ride it, if you have ridden more than a week I think everyone can relate to.
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Well I think two girls who were at the sauna with us would appreciate your gift :)
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Blimey!
what did I start?
I think the only thing thats clear is that Bikers in the UK seem to share more of a bond with each other than you guys do. I haven't come accross this kind of infighting stuff for years over here.
Maybe for once America will follow our trend rather than the other way around!
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Originally posted by Zulu7
Blimey!
what did I start?
I think the only thing thats clear is that Bikers in the UK seem to share more of a bond with each other than you guys do. !
How would you know? You are not a biker , so you know nothing about any "bond" that is shared. You can only relate to any bond that might be shared by motorcycle enthusiats, Yups on wheels or RUBs.
Now ya might want to go visit Staga on the other hand. Them guys are sharing all sorts of bonds..........in the sauna.
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Jackle1
Translation
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Any of the Brit riders here able to give me some info on bike insurance and a good insurance company or broker. My understanding that it's very expensive and anything over 600cc is close to uninsurable unless your rich. True or not?
...-Gixer
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Depends on Age etc
I use bennets though I heard Carol nash are good and they do a combined Bike and Car policy.
I pay about £300 Fully Comprehensive cover on my 1200 daytona
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Motorcycle Direct. Best broker there is.
Was getting quotes of £700 on an R6, MD got me £280 fully comp.
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Originally posted by Zulu7
Jackle1
Translation
:rofl
Geeeez bud. Ya just keep gettin lamer and lamer. I mean more than before.
Now you have got me really concerned. You are starting to look like a Guuuurly mon. You a guuuurly mon ScrewLu? :D
Staga, remember that really impressive pic you posted on ummmmm about page 4 with the link to the guys you thought were the shiz niz? I`m assuming by the way you stated it these were your buds. You know in the the link the guy who had on the black silk or whatever it is.
Well, here`s pic that came from the same place. :D
This your idea of having it together? lmao
Richard Simmons needs to get with you guys to discuss your feminine color coordination. The PINK sleeves really look cool with the Dayglo, neon green bike. Pink? Pink? Geeez Louise, I can see why so much time in the shower.....eeerrr sauna together now sippin cognac.
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Jackal,
You keep on going on about the one who is the only "biker" here in what your meaning or image of that is yet you seem sooo obsessed with image in what's cool or not that imo your the one that's missing out.
I couldn't give a toss if the bike I owned was bright pink with blue wheels as long as I can still drift it through corners and enjoy riding it, that's all the matters.
I don't feel as if I have to try and look cool to impress others or forfill in my mind what I think biking is about, that's total bollocks.
The more and more you post the more you come across as the one who has the least idea of anyone that I've ever talked to about bikes and have no clue what so ever. You come across as a grumpy sad arse that's never owned his own bike in his life and always dreamed of touring the US on a Harley or something. Keep on dreaming while some of us have raced and lived bikes of all different makes,models and colours every day. And enjoyed every moment.
...-Gixer
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Originally posted by Zulu7
Depends on Age etc
I use bennets though I heard Carol nash are good and they do a combined Bike and Car policy.
I pay about £300 Fully Comprehensive cover on my 1200 daytona
Thanks for that, about the same as here infact a little cheaper then here which is good to see. Do you know if they offer special coverage for track days? Also what happens if you take the bike to France is it still covered?
Seems I might be moving to the UK soon so will be shopping for a bike and some insurance. Cheers.
...-Gixer
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Yes Usualy most Insurers cover you abroad though the cover may be reduced to third party only. As for track days I haven't done them. More of a tourer here. So I'm not sure. I think you may have to get special insurance but someone else may know better.
Where you moving to?
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Gixer me old pal,
used to be the case you needed an insurance green card to go abroad, yuo don't anymore, you just need to inform your insurer you're going. Some insurer's still think in terms of a 'green card' but under european law it's not needed. Check with yr insurer cos them bastards will try anything to get out of making a payout in the event of a claim.
And when you show up in Britain we're going for a pint or four.
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Originally posted by Gixer
I couldn't give a toss if the bike I owned was bright pink with blue wheels
...-Gixer
Ya know, I noticed that. Sort of a shame too because you seem like you might have some potential. :D
You come across as a grumpy sad arse that's never owned his own bike in his life and always dreamed of touring the US on a Harley or something.
You know and I gave you the benefit of a doubt on having enough intelligence to read the thread. Guess I could of been wrong.
Actualy I am a little ticked off, now that you mention it, on the fact that there still is a few states I have missed.
But hey , I`ll just turn 53 in 7 days so I hope there is still plenty of time to catch up. :D
As far as your racing experience, I can relate to that and I wish you well. When I was 17, (back when dinosaurs roamed the earth:p ), I was working at a bike shop after school , on weekends and through the summer. It was there that I was proposed and accepted an offer to run Motocross. Hell, I was doing it for fun anyway, so I thought why not get paid doing it while using the best equipment and parts, racing leathers and such. There was just a tad difference then than there is now. You know between when it was Motocross and MotoX. We actualy did the "cross" part, unlike today. No fancy ,smancy,indoor, domed, manicured courses. We ran actual Motocross. Was a blast. I also did a little, not much, flat tracking. Hairy , to say the least, but total adrenline.
Now, I still have that picture of you and your girlfriend on the way to the track. Don`t make me drag it out again. :D
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plunking down your plastic to buy plastic doesn't make you a biker anymore than a new pair of cowboy boots make you a cowboy or haveing some "billet head" TV star build you a 2005 '32 ford makes you a hot rodder.
In that respect... there is no "brotherhood". It may or may not be more fun to talk to someone who shares your interest in a hobby but more than likely.. if you built yours and he didn't or vice versa... you won't have much in common.
There are zillions of motorcycles out there and they are more like cars than anything... electric start.. fairings... electronic engine controls... if it don't start... put it on a trailer and take it to the dealer.
They are much easyier for women to ride tho.... maybe you can try some "brotherhood" on them.
lazs
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When I was at Sturgis in 00, I noticed a lot of which I thought were broken down bikes on trailers. Later found out it was how the so called wanabe bad bellybutton bikers got their bikes to Sturgis. :D
The Harley crowd has has many wanabes as the tank humpering psuedo racers. Can you imagine trailering your big Harley cruiser. :rofl
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Originally posted by lazs2
plunking down your plastic to buy plastic doesn't make you a biker anymore than a new pair of cowboy boots make you a cowboy or haveing some "billet head" TV star build you a 2005 '32 ford makes you a hot rodder.
lazs
LOL That hits the nail on the head.
Guess they need to start a new terminology for these folks. Maybe the could be called Instaschoolers. :D
Here is one of Mann`s pieces I was talking about that combines Old School rods and scooters. Matter of fact it`s one of my favorites.
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/22_1109531732_oldschool.jpeg)
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ya know jakal.. out here it was actually like that in the 70's and 80's santa cruz and along the coast... the wannabe bikers simply dressed the part but didn't own scoots...now they can buy bikes with the plastic rectangle.
milomor... I agree. I have nothing in common with the accountants/women on Harley's these days.
lazs
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Here is another one of Mann`s pieces that always, always brings a smile to my face. I had the full size of this one mounted and coated on walnut at one time. It eventualy got ripped off.
The reason it makes me smile everytime is that represents a "been there, done that" kind of thing.
In `71 me and another guy had put together a place for partying, hanging out ,etc. It was eventualy dubbed The Sin Palace by the !st Baptist Church pastor in this small town. (another long story :D }
I had came in one day, parked my scoot outside beside my buds that had been sitting out front all night the night before.
I grabbed a beer and walked out in front to BS. Here came another one of our dastardly bunch running pretty hot with the local`s squad car chasing him.
He grinned, waved and hauled *** .
In a few minutes the local showed up along with a county squad car. Both was convinced I was their man. :D
While I was talking to the local I noticed the county deputy walk over and "feel" the heads and exhaust on my buds scoot. The local was yammering at me and got me distracted. When I again looked in the direction of county deputy he was kneeled down with his hand reaching for the cutoff drag pipes on my scoot. I yelled, but it was too late. SIZZLE!!
Both of the cops eventualy found out I was not "their man" when the other guy pulled in and told them it was him, not me.
Both apologized to me and we got some burn ointment on the county deputy`s hand. The county deputy and myself later became pretty close friends. A couple years after this the deputy, along with another deputy, were delivering a prisoner to a TDC prison facility. The prisoner waited until they had entered the main gate, reached between the cage and the seat, took my friend`s service revolver and shot him in the back of the head, killing him on the spot.
I never see this piece that I don`t think of him and times gone past.(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/22_1109531919_burned.jpeg)
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Originally posted by lazs2
ya know jakal.. out here it was actually like that in the 70's and 80's santa cruz and along the coast... the wannabe bikers simply dressed the part but didn't own scoots...now they can buy bikes with the plastic rectangle.
lazs
LOL Yea, I know. The `70s were some pretty great times all around.
What eventualy became my brother-in-law lived there and was a member of a well known organization there. :D
Ya know, I guessed they never showed me where the sauna was though. :rofl
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Screwlu, you have allready been nominated and awarded. Go pick up your trophy in the other thread .
That guuuuurly mon is beginning to shine through again.
My ride has allready been discussed here on this board more than once.
If you weren`t so busy trying to come up with more ways to say "Make the bad man stop" and adjusting your bra straps you would know that.
Try clicking your ruby reds together three times.
You keep infesting this thread with all your "I'm better than you, more real than you, a real Biker etc
No where have I said that I am better than anyone. Nowhere have I said I`m more real than anyone. The other can speak for itself.
What I have said is YOU are not a biker. You are not. You are either pick one-------> a motorcycle enthusiast, a Yup on wheels or a RUB, but most of all you are a poor excuse for a troll.
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ROFLMAO
Cry me a river sweet cheeks. I knew if given enough time you would stop beating around the bush and come out with the "Make the bad man stop" whine.
Does macho hit a sensitive spot with ya ScrewLu? Maybe touch your sensitive side the wrong way or what? lol
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If it was for bikers, why are you here?
If you spoke the language then the rest would be clear. You don`t. I have nothing to prove to anyone...especialy not a guuuuurrly mon. (Read that as you if it still don`t come through).
What are you whining about anyway and why?
Do I threaten your feminine side or exactly what is the deal here ScrewLu?
I have asked it before and I will ask it again.
Do you have anything against the term Motorcycle enthusiast? If so what?
The other two catagories gettin closer to home or what?
You ride in your " street shoes and suit" as described by the sauna man or what?
Come on out with it. You will feel a lot better. :D
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BTW That was a nice little edit job you did above on the "make the bad man stop" post of yours.
You know where you were kickin and screaming in text "fug off and go to another thread" .
Hell if you don`t mean it, don`t put it in in the first place.
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Keep whining for me would ya? lmao
Geeeeeeez Cry me a river.
Quit your snivelin and sit down.
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Somehow I just knew you would take the "burial" bait. ROFLMAO
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LOL I would say how terribly fricken hilarious . :rofl
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here is the bike im part owner of with me sitting on it too,,lol,,big oaf that i am,,hehe<~~defencive tackle in school,,im 6'6",,about 2 meters tall in metric system i think,,lol,,i have to ride harleys,,that triumph i had was way too small for me,,had anuff power,,but the bike was built for a much smaller guy,,,a harley i can easy custom a little,,put foward controlls on it,,we put 1inch and a half baby apes on it,,and some screeming eagle pipes on it,,i got a single springer seat for it too,,but cant have that when you got a old lady:( ,,so i had to take it off and put the biach seat back on,hehe,,but im happy as hell with it,,good cruzer
i have owned 3 harley's before this one,,and i keep coming back for more,,that evo motor never gives me any proublems,,,hell my old iron head i owned never broke down either,,i think alot of the depedablity is all in who owned it and how they treated it,,because the guy i sold my iron head too is in a bike club,,and only thing he ever put money into it was a carb rebuild kit,,he has drove it too the coast over and over for 4 years now with out trouble{knock on wood},,hehe
as for plastic or not,,well i let everyone ride what they wish,,doesnt bother me one bit,,but i do like the stripped down mean look of a harley my self,,but thats my opinion:aok
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LOL Hyena I had a bud that was gigantic in size once. Best I rember he was 6`10". He has since passed on to that big Sturgis in the sky.
He rode his bike exclusively. Someone gave him a pickup once and he parted it out.
He rode a Trumpet for quite a few years also. He had it stretched and everything possible to make it more comfortable for him. He finaly built him a shovel and did an extreme stetch on it, added sky highs to it and he still looked like someone on a moped.
It was sort of comical to be outside the local watering hole when he rode up and stepped off his scoot to watch the expression on folks face who didn`t know him.
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thx god i am not much taller,,,after 6'6" things get hard to find,,like clothes and fitting into cars,,lol proubly the reason i drive a old 73 mach 1,,plenty of leg room,,lol,,but i know how he feals,,,lucky a full size harley is nice and confy:),,my bud has a little honda civic,,i have to open the sun roof so i can fit into the thing,,hehe
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Out of interest whats your take on the whole "Biker" thing Hyena?Refer to Jackle1 onging diatribe and the various views expressed by the rest of us, for reference if you like.
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Originally posted by Zulu7
Refer to Jackle1 onging diatribe and the various views expressed by the rest of us, for reference if you like.
Not the "rest of us" ScrewLu. Just you and a couple more wannabes. :D
I sure do get under your skin, don`t I? I wonder why that is? :D
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Did you speak? Sorry I took the wise move of ignoring you.:D
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Originally posted by hyena426
thx god i am not much taller,,,after 6'6" things get hard to find,,like clothes and fitting into cars,,lol proubly the reason i drive a old 73 mach 1,,plenty of leg room,,lol,,but i know how he feals,,,lucky a full size harley is nice and confy:),,my bud has a little honda civic,,i have to open the sun roof so i can fit into the thing,,hehe
LOL Yep, I can imagine.
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Somebody say something
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Out of interest whats your take on the whole "Biker" thing Hyena?Refer to Jackle1 onging diatribe and the various views expressed by the rest of us, for reference if you like.
the biker thing,,well ummmmm,,i think you both have good and bad views about it..some are more hard core about there fealings of what a real biker is,,,a 1% biker with the patches to prove it once told me,,any bike is better than none,,in his opinion he likes harleys much better than anything else,,because it was made in america and he grew up on riding upright,,,,but at all there functions all bikes and makes are welcome
i wouldnt want to get into the middle of your battle anyways:)..lol you al slug it out some more...but ill say this..most bikers rarely pick on other bike riders..just isnt good edicate..sure alot joke around about jap or american bikes..but most bikers are happy just too see you riding
like all bikes..hell i ride a huskavarna dirt bike every spring and fall<~~best riding times for the dirt..if i was stuck on just one moto bike..i would have a hell of a time dirt bike riding on that springer sence harely doesnt make dirt bikes anymore:( i use to own a old harley 175 sx dirt bike..loved that machine.i ran it till it died 5 years later..couldnt get parts for it..too rare of a machine to buy a new piston and ring and gaskets for it..one dealer told me he spent 500bucks lookin for a 15dollar part,,lol,,eeeeeeeeeeeek
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He's just too much of a homer :aok
(http://www.kolumbus.fi/staga/jackal.gif)
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MMM Staga I can see why that looks funny.
Should have added the question mark to somebody say something? or maybe exclamation mark! The Joy of Typos.
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Hyena you then sir are indeed a Biker!
welcome:D
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zulu... as you may understand... there are not a lot of pics of us back in those days.. My crowd was not er "fond" of being photgraphed or being journalists but... I do have some faded pics that are still around... all the guys but me are dead anyhow..
I don't have a clue how to post em but would email em to ya if that is what you want.
lazs
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Lazs, send em my way (swoop@hitechcreations.com) and I'll host & post em for ya.
I'd kinda like to see em myself......
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/209_1081438631_swoop.gif)
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ok swoop.. sent the first one. will dig around for more to bore you with later.
lazs
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heh, kickstarting a bike with your leg in 2 halves.
Starter motors aint such a bad idea after all are they. :)
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"Dumplin"
Not a very good pic. If I can breathe some life back into the ole scanner I have thousands of pics from runs across the country.
Laz, them bellbottoms got sorta breezy in cold weather, huh?
LOL I used to tape mine to my boots. :D
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Originally posted by Swoop
heh, kickstarting a bike with your leg in 2 halves.
Starter motors aint such a bad idea after all are they. :)
Heehee. I`ve had many a grin from riders on push button Harleys when they started leaving the kickstarter off at the at the factory. The look on the faces when you push the button and Rrrr rrrrrr click click. The ole Hunt Magneto will never let you down as long as you have the ummmppphhhhhffffff to kick her over.
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yep... mid/late 70's winter with a rag tied on to the lower legs of the wide glide to keep some of the spray from the front tire from hitting me between the eyes.
As for kick starting... well... If you couldn't kick your own bike over... well... you didn't get any help from the guys I knew... pretty much, if you couldn't start it you didn't deserve to ride it.
Hell..... I was just glad it wasn't a suicide clutch!
The bike is an old CHP police bike. I cut the cast down a little for riding as I recall and... it had a window taped into it where you could take off and clean and dress the wound.. you could see the bone for long time.
lazs
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Originally posted by lazs2
yep... mid/late 70's winter with a rag tied on to the lower legs of the wide glide to keep some of the spray from the front tire from hitting me between the eyes.
lazs
You know they use plastic panels for that job today.
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Hell..... I was just glad it wasn't a suicide clutch!
lazs
Heehee. The ole jockey shift shuffle. :D
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some cool old pics:) reminds me alot of my dads old biker photo's...he use to give me rides to school on his old hogs:)i know a few guys who still got kick starters on there bikes,,..one guy has a stroked out shovel head..90 cube kit on it..thing is a pain in the royal butt to kick..too much compression..i swear he must loose 20 pounds at each stop,,lol
anyways..ill try to take a pick of my experimental honda spree eater today:) its a 1962 harley topper with a old 500cc honda motor strapped between your legs,,lol,i allready had a ton of people tring to buy it off me,it not far off from being completed,,going to take it around to runs once and a while..i would be afraid to sell it..thing mite be too fast for its own good,.lol
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MMM Got the same bike as that Zulu guy! Having read this thread I kind of agree with him about some things though he seems to have got rather baited by a few of you guys and degenerated into mud slinging.
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Well xmas might be coming early next week for me. Organised 2days riding on a new 05 Triumph Thruxton next week. Last Triumphs I rode were the Daytona's,Sprint ST and Rocket 3. Be interesting to see what the Thruxton is like, seating position reminds me of the old Guzzis and Laverda's.
Anyone else tried one of these bikes? I'll try and post a little review and some pics next week.
(http://www.motomag.com/essais/triumph/pho/thr09a04g.jpg)
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cool turnip:) i still got a spot in my hart for those bsa's and triumphs<~~even know im too big for them now days,,i use to have a old 1964 i beleve} 250 bsa and matching triumph,,one was sezied other ran fine,,had a bad coil that would heat up,,,but i tell you what,,that old 250 would smoke my freinds 500 xr every time we would race ,,but when we hit the trails,,he would smoke me:) all that nice mono made me update,,wish i still had that old bsa tho<~~it impressed my bud and me and we still talk about getting a old bsa that has a good motor and stick it a updated frame and see what that old beast can do ina modern dirt bike frame,,lol
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Nice. When I get bored of speed I might just go for one of those. Right now I'm happy with the old tiger100 for the slow days and the Daytona for the fast ones.
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Originally posted by Skydancer
MMM Got the same bike as that Zulu guy! Having read this thread I kind of agree with him about some things though he seems to have got rather baited by a few of you guys and degenerated into mud slinging.
Ya think? :rofl
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Gixer, how many CCs the Trumpet have (CUs) ?
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Lazs said: "this is one around the same time. I have a funny story about that shirt.. my bike is in the back. the foreground is vince and his pan.. He was muscle for the Banshees MC the left side you can just see MJ's '47 knucklehead he was pres of said MC."
And I wanna hear the story about the shirt next.....
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Originally posted by Jackal1
Gixer, how many CCs the Trumpet have (CUs) ?
It's 865cc to be exact and rated at about 69 hp and 45 ft. lbs. of torque. Though I don't care much on stats and figures these days. I took it for a quick ride yesterday and it pulled effortlessly from 70 to 100mph in top gear.
Next week will be the real ride and can't wait. Trying to organise some time at the track as well but the lender isn't so keen on that idea. :D
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ok here it is,,little dirty from being under a blue tarp this winter,,i just started working on it last year,,i never even new there was a harley scooter till i found this thing,,only one in my area thats for sure,,its orignal powerplant is long gone,,,so i thought it would make a hell of a monster scooter:) so all them honda sprees and vespa's better get out of the way when this comes rolling up to the stop light,,lol,,the big bad harley topper:),,need to finish putting a single seat on it,,,mounts,,all the electrics been ran and work,motor runs great..gots alot of work left,,but i think it will be one of the crazest things on the road for a scooter,,lol
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81 FL 21 inch apes s&s super,2inch drags,black of course.:cool:
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gixer.. that is a nice bike. My first bike was a trumpet 40 incher. It was a TT bike (dirt flattrack) and I made it street legal when I was 15. I was too big for the limey bikes tho. Harley just felt right.
The old shovel still exists. I gave it to my brother. I like to take it out once in a while... get all misty over just kicking it through and having it cough to life. I ride it around a little and hope a cop doesn't see me and arrest me for riding without a helmet and destroying the earths aura or some such crap.
Park any of those bikes in a group of new bike and I gurarentee that anyone the crowd will be around them and not the plastic ones.
Same for gixers trumpet... I rarely even look at bikes these days... walk right by em without much of a glance even... they are as interesting as vacum cleaners to me for the most part but... I seen a group of three guys on the coast on what looked like new trumpets and I stopped to look. One of em had even put on a bates saddle seat... hell... these guys were younger than my tattoos but I did feel a certain kinship with em since they were not part of the horde. They were talking about TT pipes and they actually knew and appreciated what a "pre unit 40 incher" was.
it's not all bad out there..
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oh yeah... the shirt... the guys in the photo and their bikes plus about 4 more like em... well.. we all went to the grand opening of a bay area Harley shop for the free food and "gifts"...
Now, ya gotta realize that, in those days, the bikes in that picture were not exactly the image that Harley wanted to project to get sissy 50 honda (the ones on a girls bike frame) riders to step up to Harley..
They asked us to leave and realized that was a mistake..soooo.. the bribed us... I got a case of those shirts if we would leave.. All the black ones were XXL (too big for me) and the the Xl's were all that blue color... I wore one or another of em for years. I don't think I was exactly the advertisement that they had envisioned when the shirt was created.
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LOL Hyena, you gonna have a rocket powered roller skate when you get done there. Should turn a few heads , that`s for sure.
Yea, that Trumpet has a touch of nostalgia. Brings back a few memories. First thing I thought when I saw it.....Hmmmm ...if you took the motor and grabbed a Paugcho or Jammer to mount it on, throwed away them fenders, found an early style springer............ LOL Guess some things never change.
Laz, enjoyed the pics. Got to go get a new battery for my boat today, but when I get back I`ll try to fiddle with my old scanner and see if I can breath some fire into it to post some more pics.
In `79 I lived in the county seat. The Prez of the local chapter of the Shees lived down a couple of blocks from me. We used to party pretty hearty. :D Hadn`t thought about him in years until I saw that pic.
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going through my pics a couple of things became apparent... If it weren't for women taking pictures I wouldn't have any of that era and... Everyone in the pics except me is dead.
I don't really want to glorify those days but I can't in good conscience say that I didn't have one hell of a good time... some of the worst times too. drugs were relatively new to the populace as a whole and we fed off that. we fed off the naiveity of the hippies who seen us as some kinda "freedom fighters".
one thing for sure tho... we lived those bikes. Most didn't even own a car or... would jointly own a caddy or lincoln (only cars big enough to hold six of us)
we lived the bikes and we knew everything there was to know about em... maybe that made us "bikers". Maybe that is the diggerence today.
but... I will admit that gixer is making sense to me... Who cares about the specs? you can allways buy more impressive specs... you just can't buy "feel".
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ROFL about the shirt story. I can relate.
The "suits" at Harley are going to regret turning their back on the folks that kept their boat afloat one of these days. Prolly along about the time that the Yup Insta Angel craze comes crashing down around their ears. When Willie G. came up with the 5 year plan it was a good move for them. Then the suits got involved a little too much.
Used to be where you could look in nearly any classified section and find 3 or 4 basket cases pretty cheap. Then the Yup phase started here. Immediately following that came the demand for anything Harley in the Euro crowd. Basket cases, parts, etc were shipped in Connex containers by the ship load. Now parts are like pulling teeth and baskets are few and far between at any price.
Sure did put a smile on the folks at S&S and like places though. :D
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LOL Hyena, you gonna have a rocket powered roller skate when you get done there. Should turn a few heads , that`s for sure.
lmao,,maybe!! i thought it would be ahead turner,,specialy sence little scooters are becoming popular again..thought i would put a little edge to one..and being a harley scooter too:)<~~wish i could fit a real harley motor in it..but there just too big..not even a sporty motor would..that was the biggest motor i could fit in there and bolt up with out destroying and modifing the frame.thing can still be turned stock..little harley toppers are too spendy to destroy completely..i had a offer of 1000 bucks just how it sits..i guess parts are hell to find for them
btw doesnt triumph make the biggest stock cc bike now? i heard somthing about a 2400cc bike they make now
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we lived the bikes and we knew everything there was to know about em... maybe that made us "bikers". Maybe that is the diggerence today.
yup...i would say so..my dad had a back yard full of harleys he would buy for 5 bucks and drool as the rich boys road by on there new bsa's that he couldnt afford..and called his big baggers grampa's bikes,,lol.and now people will kill for a good bagger..my dads nik name is bagger bob because back in the day he was the only one who road those things round here..everyone wanted sportsters and bsa lightings..full sized harley's were considerd junk back then..isnt it funny how things change?
i grew up on junk bikes my self..break a trottle cable,,i would tie a guitar string to the end of it,,and drop it down into the carb just to enjoy it some more..my dad only got me one dirt bike in my life and it was free..lol every moto bike i ever owned i had to trade wheel and deal to get on my own..i think the harder you fight and have to work on your machine the more you apreciate them compaired to some one who has a rich dad and just buys him a new one every time he destroys it
i can see how some people get upset..because they work hard on there bikes and some rich folk come in and buy somthing twice as nice with out any hard work put into there machine..it has made motor bike life alot diffrent..im glad alot of people like harleys now..but you do have alot of fakes now who have no idea how hard some people worked to get there bikes to look good with out any cash to all old school bike riders
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btw doesnt triumph make the biggest stock cc bike now? i heard somthing about a 2400cc bike they make now
Yep (http://www.kolumbus.fi/staga/b1_rocket.jpg).
http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/firstrides/122_0311_triumph/
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Naw, not even close.
That`s what their promotional hype states, but like everything else there is always a "faster gun" around the corner.
BHC-3 ZZ4
Engine
Type: Liquid Cooled V-8
Horsepower: 355
Torque: 405
Block: Cast Iron - 4 bolt main
Cylinders: Aluminum (58cc)
Valvetrain: 1.94"Int. / 1.5"Exh.
Size: 350 c.i. (5700cc)
Compression: 10:1
Carburetor: Quadrajet 750 cfm
Exhaust: 2.0" with dual mufflers
Transmission: 2-speed semi-auto w/rev.
Final Drive: Belt,Gates - Polyc
BHC-3 502
Engine
Type: Liquid Cooled V-8
Horsepower: 502
Torque: 567
Block: Cast Iron - 4 bolt main
Cylinders: Aluminum (110cc)
Valvetrain: 2.25"Int. / 1.88"Exh
Size: 502 c.i. (8200cc) Compression: 9.6:1
Carburetor: Quadrajet 850cfm
Exhaust: 2.5" with dual mufflers
Transmission: 2-speed semi-auto w/rev.
Final Drive: Belt, Gates - Polychain
I believe it was `95 that some friends of ours had a big motorhome and wanted to go to Sturgis for a few days , then they were going on to Yellowstone. He talked me into splitting the spot fees for the MH. We had to book almost a year in advance. This was the first, only and I guarantee the last time I will ever do this at Sturgis.
Anywho....We had got there a couple of days before official opening of bike week. Sometime during the night the guy that owns this company had came in with their rockstar type custom bus and and equaly long trailer loaded with these bikes. They hadn`t set up shop downtown yet. They opened up this big van type trailer and started wiping these monsters down. I figured this guy would have his head where the sun didn`t shine as most big wigs do, but I had been babysitting a few fire waters and decided what the hell, I wanted a closer look.
I went over and the guy turned out to be pretty laid back and invited me in the to have a look see. I ended up hangin out and shooting the BS with them for an hour or so.
I first asked about the balance. He walked over, took one finger and raised one of them upright. Was unbelievable.
I asked about the acceleration. He said the best way to describe it was this....He said "ya know how when your cruising down the Interstate and you see a car a hundred yards or so in front of you and you decide to lean into the other lane and twist it to go around?" He said you need to start thinking about that on one of these about a half mile or so in advance., otherwise if ya twist it you will end up with your front forks in the trunk of the car in front of ya. lol (http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/22_1109901907_bhc-3zz4.jpeg)
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well turnip mite still have it,,unlike boss hoss they made there own motor instead of sticking a chevy in there bike:) boss hoss are scary machine,,<~~my topper mite be scarier:),,jk,,but!! i think the dodge v10 bike mite take the boss hoss:) close one
This isn't your conventional bike and it's clear from the motor of choice--the same V10 that powers Dodge's Viper. The national speed limit is reached in 2.5 seconds. The top speed? No less than 400 miles per hour. Literally a crotch rocket or missle on wheels, the Tomahawk keeps as much traction as is physically possible with not two wheels, but dually-style sets of two. That is, each "axle" has two wheels and tires, not one. The 45-degree V10 is shoehorned between the front and rear wheels.
Trevor Creed, Senior Vice President - Design, Chrysler Group stated that, "[The] Tomahawk is an icon of the extreme thinking of a brand that is known not only for the legendary Viper and Ram, but also for all new, innovative vehicles such as the Magnum SRT-8 and Durango concepts." We pretty much agree with Creed, but especially on the extreme thinking part. How do you come up with this? "Hey Herr Dieter, let's make a bike so fast that we can't actually test it!"
Displacement is at 8.3 liters; this 20-valve, liquid-cooled aluminum block has already shown what it can do in the heavyset Viper. God only knows what this sci-fi ride is capable of now. The maximum 500 hp is reached @ 5,000 rpm, but the ever-important 525 lb-ft of torque is reached in the 4,200 rpm range with redline at 6,000rpm
Hey Herr Dieter, let's make a bike so fast that we can't actually test it!"
you got to love that quote,,lol(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/769_1109910896_tomahawkembed1.jpg)
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All manufacturers use other people parts. So I think the loonys who make ther boss hoss can qualify as manufacturers. my Triumph has got jap parts all over it. As have many Harleys nowadays. I saw a Boss Hoss at Sturgis back in 98 and it may be big and fast but boy is it ugly.
Over here we have the sport bike crowd too. mostly younger guys with more money than is good for them ( can that ever be true? lol ) or older guys who read too many magazines and have been off bikes for a few years, return and get sucked in by the hype thinking it'll make em look young and cool.
Some sport bike riders are ok. My criteria is usualy if they can do at the bare minimum and service on the thing themselves, then they might be worth talking to at the local bike meet.
At the Moment my Daytona looks way too sport bike. Personaly I prefer the stripped down streetfighter look.
All the performance without the agony of having your wrists pounded and and your back bent in half. OOh s*it I must be getting old lol.
That Thruxton is nice gixer but when I took one out on test I found again that my poor knackered many times broken wrists couldn't hack it.
Bring on the Renthals.
Ride on.
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world products makes an all aluminum 427 chevy small block that weighs 435 lbs wet. That would be a good boss hog motor.
I would love to ride one.
lazs
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Bloody hell thats nearly the same weight as my whole bike! pick Wouldn't want to pick that up after a get off!
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well... if you had rode heavy bikes much you would know that you aren't picking up the 600 lbs or so but using leverage.
I could routinely move my Hog around when my leg was in plaster including picking it up when it was down... You don't have to bench press it you know.
you do have to be smarter than the bike tho.
lazs
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Yeah true.
The early Hinkley triumphs are pretty top heavy so you have to use a lot of leverage.
Backside on the saddle face away from the bike and walk back works good unless you go too far and tip the damn thing the other way.
:lol
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yep... the jap bikes are top heavy and tall... Harley's and ( I would imagine) boss Hogs have low centers of gravity.
lazs
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Originally posted by Skydancer
Yeah true.
The early Hinkley triumphs are pretty top heavy so you have to use a lot of leverage
:lol
You've obviously never ridden the Rocket3 then. That bike has a phenominal low centre of gravity. Best cruiser style bike I've ever ridden by far.
...-Gixer
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Skydancer,
Ah sorry I missed the word "early" in your post .
...-Gixer
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No probs.
Personaly I think the Rocket amazing though it is, is ugly.
I'm more of a speedtriple man, or crashed fightered gixer.
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Who is Zulu? I checked out the begining of this thread and its says persona non grata. Why what does that mean?
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Originally posted by Skydancer
No probs.
Personaly I think the Rocket amazing though it is, is ugly.
I'm more of a speedtriple man, or crashed fightered gixer.
At first sight and a few days II thought the Rocket3 was pretty ugly too, but after a day it really grew on me. Only time I noticed it's bulk was when trying to move it around the drive and garage.
It's been a good sales success for Triumph though and rightly so, even in little NZ they've sold close to a 100 of them.
...-Gixer
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Good news for industry here then.
I'm British so I'll support a Britsh product if I can.
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Originally posted by Skydancer
. So I think the loonys who make ther boss hoss can qualify as manufacturers.
I saw a Boss Hoss at Sturgis back in 98 and it may be big and fast but boy is it ugly.
Loonys? I`m gonna assume that was a reference to the HP put in these monsters. They seemed to have come up with something pretty unique that is doing very good. At most of the major runs aimed primarily at the Harley rider you will see quite a few BHs roaming around.
I actualy thought they did very good appearance wise on these big boys. Considering the size and the HP in the motors, I think they have some very good, classic lines.
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Originally posted by Skydancer
Who is Zulu? I checked out the begining of this thread and its says persona non grata. Why what does that mean?
It means that Zulu has a special place in Suzzy's heart. ;)
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He upset him then!
As for the Boss hoss. I guess it depends what you like, and yeah loonys because that is one hell of a big engine to put in a bike!
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Originally posted by Skydancer
He upset him then!
As for the Boss hoss. I guess it depends what you like, and yeah loonys because that is one hell of a big engine to put in a bike!
Boss Hoss bikes are in a class of their own.
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Boss Hoss fast big showy, but in my humble opinion damn ugly!
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Originally posted by Skydancer
Boss Hoss fast big showy, but in my humble opinion damn ugly!
Yeah, they look pretty commical to me.
..-Gixer
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Hows the Thruxton going?
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Originally posted by Skydancer
Hows the Thruxton going?
Picking it up Wednesday all going as planned.
..-Gixer
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Roadtest report when you get it please!:aok