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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Airhead on February 18, 2005, 10:44:06 AM
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And I do my surfing from work...
Bt all means, I'm not suggesting people follow the rules of common decency, but I've opened my last adult link from this place so I'm out of here, at least for the 16 hours I'm at work every day.
Ciao.
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Inappropriate
(last warning for you)
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Originally posted by Furball
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took a second for that one to sink in but then
:rofl :aok
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I just avoid visiting most external links because I know that there are people here who are thoughtless and that don't think to use a 'nsfw' tag when appropriate. The inline images are usually ok, had to steer clear of the 'images only' thread after a couple of borderline posts that were projected up onto my second monitor that I have hanging from a wall, but other then that... I just assume that there are enough jerks on the board to avoid clicking through.
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Just out of curiousity.
What was the link?
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Just out of curiousity.
What was the link?
Nevermind. I found it.
Gotta side with Airhead on this one
At the LEAST there should have been a disclaimer
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I'd just like to quote President Ronald Reagan
"There he goes again"
:p :rolleyes:
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I always check a link before I open it. You never know what you are gonna find.
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i could be wrong here , but i always thought when you were at "work" you were supposed to be working. maybe thats why you have to "work" 16 hours a day.
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Originally posted by rpm
I always check a link before I open it. You never know what you are gonna find.
How do you check a link before you open it??
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Err dude, don't you work from home?
To your credit, I'll say it doesn't hurt a poster to put up a NWS tag...
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Originally posted by Elfie
How do you check a link before you open it??
at least in IE, you can do 2 things....
if the status bar is showing if you put the mouse over the link the address should show
or
you can right click a link, and choose properties, it will show the address there too
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Anyone surfing the AH BBS at work besides HTC employees ought to feel lucky, not complain. Even a Michael Bolton fan that pains over his hair cut 15 hours a day at the Bolton Fanzone. That isn't exactly allotting much time per day on the AH BBS.
I enjoy your 1 sensitive and insightful hour here Airhead, please stay. Just mouse over the link and if your browser bar says "http://gayunderdogcartoonimages" or something like that, don't click.
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Originally posted by JB73
at least in IE, you can do 2 things....
if the status bar is showing if you put the mouse over the link the address should show
or
you can right click a link, and choose properties, it will show the address there too
Thanks, didnt know that :)
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If it is not work-safe, it does not belong on this board. Simple.
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
If it is not work-safe, it does not belong on this board. Simple.
Airhead?
:confused:
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Originally posted by john9001
i could be wrong here , but i always thought when you were at "work" you were supposed to be working. maybe thats why you have to "work" 16 hours a day.
Gotta admit the man does have a very good point here.
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Originally posted by john9001
i could be wrong here , but i always thought when you were at "work" you were supposed to be working. maybe thats why you have to "work" 16 hours a day.
I could be wrong here, but I always thought maybe you should mind your own business.
Some of us visit on our lunch breaks.
Some of us own our companies and still need to avoid bringing sexually explicit materials into the office, even more vitally, because if the wrong person sees it....
So, before you role out a case of the 'supposed to's, think again.
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
If it is not work-safe, it does not belong on this board. Simple.
big, fat, spoilsport..
:p
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Tall, thin spoilsport is a better description.
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and bearded!
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
Tall, thin spoilsport is a better description.
:rofl :rofl :aok
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Originally posted by JB73
and bearded!
There is that.
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hehehe
boy it really is a friday isn't it?
LOL
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What kind of material in considered non-workplace friendly? Your work enviroments must really suck if theres someone monitoring what kind of pages you visit... I can perfectly understand if an employer says that you cant surf, but if surfing is ok why an earth would your employer care what kind of pages you visit? That's how it works here at least, it doesn't really matter if it's pron.com or HTC.com. Most employers don't really care about surfing anyway, as long as you do your job.
I'm definately not guestioning HTC policy, I'm just curious about this intardnet policing which seems to be widespread in the US.
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goatse is acceptable, yes?
-SW
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Originally posted by mora
I'm definately not guestioning HTC policy, I'm just curious about this intardnet policing which seems to be widespread in the US.
you can actually be charged with sexual harrassment (criminally) if you have a picture of questionable material on your screen and someone walks by and sees it.
you'll get fired for that too.
every company i have been to as a contractor has a policy clearly stating that questionable or pornographic surfing is an immediatly fire-able offense.
also said companies generally monitor net usage, and give a weekly report of all sites visited to supervisors.
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Mora, the restrictions exist to protect the companies from sexual harrasment claims. Like JB73 said, plus the companies themselves can be held accountable if the case can be made that they haven't taken basic steps to ensure that this doesn't happen.
The same is true in the EU. Are you currently in the work force? This could affect you. There's a study on the subject that might be of interest to you:
http://www.un.org/womenwatch/osagi/pdf/shworkpl.pdf
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Yep, we had one employee here in my department that was constantly surfin the pRon sites. He was told twice by our female manager to knock it off. Well needless to say he no longer is employed here. Imagine at his next job interview when asked why he left his last job "Oh I was surfin PrOn Sites all day."
You're Hired, NOT!!!!!
Rule of thumb, If you would feel uncomfortable looking at it with your young teenage Daughter next to you, then maybe it shouldn't be on this BBS.
Mac
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Legal reasons make perfect sense.
We don't have that madness here and probably never will, not at least in the same form. Showing pron images to persons who don't want to see them is of course bad form.
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Some companies here will fire you for using certain swear words. They say it is sexual harrassement.
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Originally posted by mora
Legal reasons make perfect sense.
We don't have that madness here and probably never will, not at least in the same form. Showing pron images to persons who don't want to see them is of course bad form.
especially to your mother like Airhead does.
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You guys just don't get it. The IT people at Airhead's job are real **********s. He could really get in trouble with upper management if we don't clean it up, pronto.
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he could even get fired. His boss is a ....
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It really applies to most of us, not just Airhead. He's just the first to say something.
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If Airhead had a good union, he could browse the AH BBS all 16 hours, AND watch porn. Thing is, like most company lapdogs, he bows to the man, and can't stand up for himself.
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The rules are plain to see and are there for a reason.
Think about this say you are reading a thread and there is a picture of some neekid woman and a donkey.
About that time your 6 year old daughter walks up behind you and says daddy whats that women doing to that donkey!
If I had a kid and that happend I would be pissed off.
Airhead I hope you job is not in jepardy over this kind of silly crap.
I would hate to see anyone lose there lively hood over this kind of thing.
Jobs Good jobs are few and far between these days.
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Unbelieveable. I just spoke with Airhead on the phone. He was warned about visiting this site after the last hotlink that was logged by IT. For coming here and posting this now (basically just for visiting the site), he's been canned. His boss was a total jerk and had it out for him anyway, but still, what a bummer. Airhead, I'm sorry if I was in any way responsible. :(
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Airhead is his own boss, he just got caught jerking off at work again.
That's why they have locks on restroom doors Airhead!
-SW
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Originally posted by SOB
Unbelieveable. I just spoke with Airhead on the phone. He was warned about visiting this site after the last hotlink that was logged by IT. For coming here and posting this now (basically just for visiting the site), he's been canned. His boss was a total jerk and had it out for him anyway, but still, what a bummer. Airhead, I'm sorry if I was in any way responsible. :(
Not so funny now that man has lost his job.
Very sorry for you airhead good luck in finding work.
This really sucks people.
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Originally posted by Elfie
Some companies here will fire you for using certain swear words. They say it is sexual harrassement.
Here you cannot fire a person at will. If an employee breaks the law or company policy he must be issued 3 official warnings before he could be fired. If you are fired for occasional swearing it would not stand in court.
If a person feels that he or she is is harassed it would be up to the victim to file charges and the company wouldn't be held responsible unless it has ignored the victims complaints. The accused wouldn't be fired before he or she would convicted.
I think that our system is good and contributes to a more relaxed working place and better atmosphere. I can't imagine working in a place where you are under a constant threat of getting fired for the most unimaginable reason.
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Screw Airhead, I have no remorse that he got fired from his new job. Now maybe he'll actually work for his money, like juggling on a street corner or singing about 40s so people will give him some change.
He's been suckling off the taxpayer's teet for too long, taking in disability because of a busted hip. He can still wheel his crippled bellybutton around, I'm tired of reading excuses from these deadbeats stealing our money about how they can't work anymore because of a small flesh wound.
It's all the more sweeter that he got fired for looking at porn too. How did he have time to be surfing this board anyway? Because he's lazy and doesn't do any work.
He is a drain on the economy, and was a drain on his employer. Deadbeat "cripple"!
-SW
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Originally posted by wombatt
Not so funny now that man has lost his job.
Very sorry for you airhead good luck in finding work.
This really sucks people.
Oh dear!:( :( :(
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well here i am to squash the thread (at least let the un-knowing what the real deal is).
Airhead is not in any danger for browsing anything on his PC during the work day.... why?
read this (http://forums.checksix.net/forum_posts.asp?TID=3363&PN=5)
unless he is pulling a mr. black and outright lying about his entire life he is his own boss at his own small business.
the entire thread here is a gigantic troll, and my small contribution to it was mis-understood (the picture that was edited out). my intent was to "go along" with the troll saying airhead got "owned" at work, but it went over badly i guess.
now everyone and their brother jumping in and playing the troll even though 1/2 or more of them know the real truth.
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What is a prescription pad?
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Yikes you need some privacy laws down there. I can't believe they are allowed to track users net visits.
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Originally posted by Siaf__csf
Yikes you need some privacy laws down there. I can't believe they are allowed to track users net visits.
What you do on company equipment & company time pretty much waives any privacy you thought you had. I kept tabs on the web logs here for a few days. After realising car salesmen do nothing but look at porn all day, I brought up my concern about a customer's children seeing pr0n popups on a salesman's machine & the potential for lawsuits to the GM.
A week later I got to build up a content filtering server. Now only managers can see anything except for required business sites. Kinda screwed me though. Now there's much less billable IT hours due to the lack of spyware crashed machines.
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Originally posted by indy007
What you do on company equipment & company time pretty much waives any privacy you thought you had. I kept tabs on the web logs here for a few days. After realising car salesmen do nothing but look at porn all day, I brought up my concern about a customer's children seeing pr0n popups on a salesman's machine & the potential for lawsuits to the GM.
A week later I got to build up a content filtering server. Now only managers can see anything except for required business sites. Kinda screwed me though. Now there's much less billable IT hours due to the lack of spyware crashed machines.
I would find it very hard to serve my customers if I wouldn't have a full internet access(I'm a service advisor). What's the likely hood of a customers, let alone their children watching the computer of a car salesman? At least in my company they have private offices and the customers sit on the opposite side of the desk. Sounds like a BS reason to bully your employees.
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This is what's always puzzled me about americans. They constantly emphasize freedom - yet they continuously seek ways to limit it.
No bad words, no pron, no privacy.. That doesn't sound free at all to me.
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Originally posted by mora
I would find it very hard to serve my customers if I wouldn't have a full internet access(I'm a service advisor). What's the likely hood of a customers, let alone their children watching the computer of a car salesman? At least in my company they have private offices and the customers sit on the opposite side of the desk. Sounds like a BS reason to bully your employees.
Off the top of my head, the service advisors have Toyota's info system, distributor site, toyota university, & a few other things. I asked them for a reason they'd need google, and the best they could give me was to find new backgrounds =P Parts has a few more sites available, like PartsVoice & Octane.
There's publicly accessible PC's in several kiosks that employees were looking at porn on, and only F&I & the GM have private offices. Everybody else is at a little island desk where everybody in the world can see their monitors. The new store they built is even worse. Their island partitions aren't even head height (while sitting!).
I wasn't out to bully anybody really. I picked up a project out of curiosity, got approval, and built a system so effective it dropped by computer repair bills by 75%. No feeling quite like kicking your own prettythang.
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Originally posted by Siaf__csf
This is what's always puzzled me about americans. They constantly emphasize freedom - yet they continuously seek ways to limit it.
No bad words, no pron, no privacy.. That doesn't sound free at all to me.
You have freedom & privacy, on your own time. Once somebody is giving you money for your time, you are obligated to do what they ask, and follow their rules. Their rules are designed to protect them from our own lawsuit happy society. Kinda sucks, but that's just the way it is here.
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Originally posted by indy007
Off the top of my head, the service advisors have Toyota's info system, distributor site, toyota university, & a few other things. I asked them for a reason they'd need google, and the best they could give me was to find new backgrounds =P Parts has a few more sites available, like PartsVoice & Octane.
Well for me there hasn't been a single day I wouldn't have needed google. I know that the typical guy behind the desk doesn't need it because he doesn't know how to use it. You'd be amazed what kind of things people ask you and usually the best way for seeking that information is the internet.
It's funny that we have a few mechs who seem to spend most of their time looking at porn, yet these guys have some of the best sales. Me theory is that a worker is going to use a certain amount his hours on something non-productive. Taking their intardnet away solves nothing.
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Originally posted by SOB
Unbelieveable. I just spoke with Airhead on the phone. He was warned about visiting this site after the last hotlink that was logged by IT. For coming here and posting this now (basically just for visiting the site), he's been canned. His boss was a total jerk and had it out for him anyway, but still, what a bummer. Airhead, I'm sorry if I was in any way responsible. :(
If his boss was out for him anyway it really doesn't matter. This was just the most convenient excuse.
Speaking from personal experience it may not have even been his boss that was after him but someone even farther up the line putting pressure on him.
I know at a place I worked word came down to me "unofficially" of course but in no uncertain terms that I was to "find a way to get rid" of one of the guys in my crew.
Now this guy I was supposed to get rid of was a jerk to put it mildly and I didn't much care for him anyway but I had a couple of other problems.
First and foremost was the person this word originated from was ten times the A-hole of the person I was supposed to be getting rid of. Which left me less then enthusiastic about what she wanted and how she wanted me to go about it.
Secondly. Even though I didn't particularly like him or his attitude he did his job and wasn't doing anything I could legally use to get rid of him on. On top of that he had just had a kid with some medical problems and was up to his eyeballs in troubles already. And while I didn't like him I also didn't like the idea of hurting his wife and kid just to please the self righteous little C***
So what I did was let word get to him 3rd hand that upper administration wanted him gone. And stuck him with every crappy out of the way job I had in my files. Two reasons. ! to get that point across he wasn't welcome and get him out of view (out of sight out of mind) of this person who wanted him out to take some heat off of me and give him a chance to get out on his own.
When he eventually came to me with what he had learned I simply denied it and said "Well you know how this place works. You need to do what is best for you"
Time passed more and more heat came down on me because he was still there I was repeatedly asked "So in so wants to know why Brian is still here"
I could only respond. "I dont have a valid or legal reason to get rid of him"
To which I was told to "be creative" (make something up).
I could only respond that I wasn't going to open myself up for and be this VPs patsy for any legal action that this guy could and probably would take and that if She wanted him gone that bad to make something up then she should be either willing to put those instructions to me in writing or be willing to do it themselves and put their own arses on the line. But I wasn't going to be anyone's convenient scapegoat.
If not then let me handle it my own way.and he would eventually leave on his own and all our butts will be covered.
Eventually thats what happened but my refusal to make something up just to get rid of a guy I didnt like but who did his job didnt please this VP.
So next the heat and the little games started coming down on me. Now keep in mind until all this happened everything was just hunky dory with myself and the uppermost echelon. My men always finished out projects not only on time well ahead of schedule no matter what kind of monkey wrenches were thrown into the system.
they were always willing to come in early and stay late if thats what was needed (something I understand they no longer are willing to do under their current boss)
It wasn't until this that things went afoul.
So after 11 years I split the whole scene out of disgust and went into business for myself vowing to be willing to stand in line at a soup kitchen before I ever return to the corporate world again unless I have absolute power over the people under me and only answer to the topmost person.
Best move I ever made. Less security for sure. But any headaches I have are my headaches and not some unqualified inferior superior above me. and my current headache lasts only until me next customer, the next job.
But as I was saying in the beginning.
This was just a convenient excuse to get rid of Airhead.
If they were after him it was only a matter of when and how.
And it may not only have just be comming form his boss. but might be the result of someone up higher applying pressure.
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Awww, I knew you still visited my forums, JB73 :cool: :D
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quote:Originally posted by Siaf__csf
This is what's always puzzled me about americans. They constantly emphasize freedom - yet they continuously seek ways to limit it.
No bad words, no pron, no privacy.. That doesn't sound free at all to me.
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We do have freedom. that is why I have argued myself with Airhead about the boards.
Your board. you allow what you allow and set your own standards.
NetAces and This Board have their own set standards.
Their boards. their standards.
Neither you, myself. or anyone else has the "freedom" to just post whatever we like.
If anyone wants that kind of freedom then get their own board and they are free to can run it the way they like.
At work, your supposed to be at WORK.
Work equipment is owned by your employer and he/she/they may regulate its use in anyway they like reguardless of its during work hours,linch break,coffee break or after you have punched out for the day.
Its still their equipment. The fact they may let you use it for your own purposes is a matter of their generousity and not your right. Therefore you should at least abide by their rules with reguards to their equipment.
and while your using their equipment I dont think you should have a reasonable expectation of privacy.
I beleive an employer should have the full right to know exactly what their equipment is being used for
Their equipment their rules.
It is after all. THEIR equipment
If you let somebody use something thats yours. Dont you think you should at least have some say in what its being used for?
With your own equipment you are free to do and look at whatever you like that is available for viewing.
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I've never had a job that allowed me to cruise the internet or visit sites that were not specifically work related. I guess my boss always figured if I was on company time I was supposed to be on company business.
If Airhead lost his job I'm sorry, trully as it's not pleasant losing your job.
It's not up to everyone on the BBS to make sure there is no work sensitive content on the BBS however. If you're at work then work, cruise the net on your time.
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I think Airhead was so upset and suicidal, he went bungee jumping again.
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Originally posted by Maverick
If Airhead lost his job I'm sorry, trully as it's not pleasant losing your job.
His boss is a real d***
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I've just received a nasty email from Airhead.
Apparently he is very upset not only by losing his job but also my repeated calling of him 'raymond' and my 'flippiant tone' about Not Work Safe material.
After his email I have had time to reflect upon what he wrote and his circumstances and I will have to reverse myself.
I was insensitive to him and his situation. I wasn't aware that his boss was out to get him, his wife positioned to leave him taking everything he owned, and his...ummm, I'm not sure I should say this, but his 'condition'. Again, I'm not sure I should say anything but he has some phsyical problems... I'll leave it at that.
I'm sorry Airhead. As I said before, I was extremely and grossly insensitive to you and your position. Although I offer my apologizes in good faith I now that you will probably dismiss them out of hand. I accept that. I didn't know how the circumstances that you were dealing with.
Airhead
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It is a delicate position Airhead held as a fluffer in the Gay Porn industry. I am sorry that his wife and children had to find out about his occupation in such an unseemly way, but perhaps his marriage will survive this blow and his children will not grow up to be liberals. One can only hope and pray that he surmounts this hurdle to his career.
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huh huh, he said "blow"!
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Drediock and Indy it's naturally for example HTC's priviledge to dictate what goes on in this forum. This is clear.
I just don't understand why so many people support all these limitations and why nobody created legislation in your country which would protect a persons privacy.
THEIR equipment
YOUR privacy. See? :D
If the company policy says you can't visit certain web pages, they can limit the users net access quite easily. However I would never want to work in a place where all my e-mail traffic or web traffic would be constantly monitored. Some people do banking from work, write personal e-mail etc.
Most european countries have very strict laws about personal information, even the ISP's are not allowed to monitor what thier client is doing on the net. Same applies to phone numbers, addresses, medical records etc.
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I Airheads been taking estrogen again, hes turning into a nambie pambie vegetarian left wing whale hugging man hating lesbian.
Whats next Airhead, rallying the FDBs to burn their man-bra's?
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Originally posted by mora
Sounds like a BS reason to bully your employees.
That describes most motivations.
On the other hand, why are they looking at anything but work related sites while on company hours, or on company computers?
If you have free time to surf at work, you have free time to increase your productivity. I'm sure they didn't buy that computer to entertain you while you take a break.
There is a middle ground in there somewhere where employees only use the internet for personal information when they are supposed to be on break, and don't visit sites that could cause the company that employs them costly lawsuits. And that company allows them to use their computers and internet time for the employees personal use, granted that they aren't put in a litigionous(wow, sp?) situation.
What gets me is people that think they deserve the privelage of computer usage and internet access. If your employer doesn't tell you that you have that as a perk, then you are abusing that employer by using their equipment for personal use.
Most do it.......hell, I do it. But don't ***** about it when it gets taken away, or they block every site that has nothing to do with work.
If you get fired for what you look at on the internet at work???
Tough chit.
If you create a post about something and tell everyone that you have been fired, when in fact you are self employed?...... to ya :D
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Originally posted by Siaf__csf
Drediock and Indy it's naturally for example HTC's priviledge to dictate what goes on in this forum. This is clear.
I just don't understand why so many people support all these limitations and why nobody created legislation in your country which would protect a persons privacy.
YOUR privacy. See? :D
If the company policy says you can't visit certain web pages, they can limit the users net access quite easily. However I would never want to work in a place where all my e-mail traffic or web traffic would be constantly monitored. Some people do banking from work, write personal e-mail etc.
Most european countries have very strict laws about personal information, even the ISP's are not allowed to monitor what thier client is doing on the net. Same applies to phone numbers, addresses, medical records etc.
I understand what your saying.
Here we do have privacy laws where privacy is a reasonable expectation.
Lets not forget the company and the owners rights also
Companies have a right to know exactly whats going on on their property and with their equipment. Therefore you do not have a reasonable expectation of privacy.
Now companies handle this situation differently.
I know of some where you are free to look and and do what you please online.
I know of others that wont let you surf at all. Or have it limited to the managment level on up.
Some that monitor every little thing and others that dont monitor at all. And everything in between.
I do beleive but am not absolutely certain that companies must tell you exactly what their monitoring policy is if you ask them.
also remember in this day and age companies can and sometimes are held accountable for what their employees do. So in many cases they almost have to monitor whats going on just to prevent being sued.
On your own machine you have every right to privacy.
On someones elses you dont.
If you wanted to use my car I sure as hell would want to know exactly what you were using it for.
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What about drug testing? Do you think it's ok for a company to spy on it's workers on their own time, like in the case of drug testing?
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Originally posted by mora
What about drug testing? Do you think it's ok for a company to spy on it's workers on their own time, like in the case of drug testing?
That's different. Never thought about it that way. I don't see it as that. An employer wants to know if who they're hiring "allegedly commits criminal acts." How do you trust somebody to follow your company guidelines when they don't bother to obey criminal law?
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"How do you trust somebody to follow your company guidelines when they don't bother to obey criminal law?"
and the drugs are expensive, could lead to stealing...
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
If it is not work-safe, it does not belong on this board. Simple.
you know, I never thought I'd say this but I have to agree with Mr. Bus-that-nobody-uses here.
However, it's a moot point in my case, because where I work this BBS link is blocked. :confused:
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Originally posted by indy007
That's different. Never thought about it that way. I don't see it as that. An employer wants to know if who they're hiring "allegedly commits criminal acts." How do you trust somebody to follow your company guidelines when they don't bother to obey criminal law?
That is a retarded arguement.
By your standards, employers should be placing speedometer monitors in your car to to see if you are speeding.
How about the states were oral sex is illegal? Should your employer be allowed to place a camera in your bedroom to see if you are getting any blowjobs?
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Oral sex is ILLEGAL in some states? you got to be shi**ing me... WTF is wrong with you guys???
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Originally posted by Saintaw
Oral sex is ILLEGAL in some states? you got to be shi**ing me... WTF is wrong with you guys???
Only the red ones.
Oh and .... some people need to get a life. I bet one of you guys actually enjoyed yelling out the end of the movie during the opening credits back when you were a kid... last year.
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Originally posted by vorticon
"How do you trust somebody to follow your company guidelines when they don't bother to obey criminal law?"
and the drugs are expensive, could lead to stealing...
Some people used to spend more money on Warbirds than a junkie spends on dope, I wonder if they were stealing too?;) Actually it might be a good if the employer could see your bank accounts and CC transactions. It would be useful for preventing a lot of bad things and increase the workers happiness and productivity.
Seriously, it's not about your hobbies or their legal status. It's about if it's ok for your employer to spy on you on your own time.
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Originally posted by mora
What about drug testing? Do you think it's ok for a company to spy on it's workers on their own time, like in the case of drug testing?
No I think what a person or employee does on his own time is his own buisness.
I personally I am against drug testing because it does infringe on a persons privacy.
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Originally posted by Siaf__csf
This is what's always puzzled me about americans. They constantly emphasize freedom - yet they continuously seek ways to limit it.
No bad words, no pron, no privacy.. That doesn't sound free at all to me.
What's always puzzled me about Euros (and many of the American youngsters here) is the only freedom they seem to embrace is the freedom to offend their neighbors...in America many of us know that freedom requires some iota of responsibility, and without that responsibility we lose our freedoms bit by bit.
Case in point is the Janet Jackson Super Bowl show. We could see much more explicit material on late night Cable TV, so it wasn't the boob popping out that was the issue- it was the inappropiateness of the venue (the Super Bowl) it happened at.
What was the result of Janet's show? Predictably, a crackdown by the FTC extending to the radio even where radio hosts I once enjoyed have been censored or, in some cases, banned from the airwaves. Is that Michael Powell's fault? Is it the people who complained about Janet Jackson's actions fault? Or is it- just maybe- Janet Jackson's fault you have to subscribe to Clear Channel to hear Howard Stern?
What will happen here when Skuzzy gets tired of dealing with JPEGs of an adult nature? When he disables picture posting, whose fault will it be? Skuzzy's? Mine, for complaining about it? Or is it the fault of the people who post inappropiate images?
This is NOT the proper venue for images of an adult nature, warning or not- if people continue to be ambushed here, like they were ambushed during the Super Bowl halftime show, then your "right" to post JPEGs will soon be removed- if not by Skuzzy then by some new Intardnet policing group.
Mora, Siaf, and you other "free" Euros- What freedoms you have were paid for in American blood, and without us you'd either be under the yoke of the Nazis or the Communists. Your style of freedom, where you are allowed to offend each other with impunity, isn't freedom at all if you force images on people, or smoke on people, or foul language on people who don't wish to share this. Not ONE of you Euros has spoken of, nor even considered, the rights of people to NOT have to share your foulness.
Our style of freedom requires respect for others and responsibility....two words which don't seem to translate into European languages.
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airhead wouldn't even have that job if he wasn't screwing the bosses wife.
lazs
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Originally posted by Airhead
Case in point is the Janet Jackson Super Bowl show. We could see much more explicit material on late night Cable TV, so it wasn't the boob popping out that was the issue- it was the inappropiateness of the venue (the Super Bowl) it happened at.
What was the result of Janet's show? Predictably, a crackdown by the FTC extending to the radio even where radio hosts I once enjoyed have been censored or, in some cases, banned from the airwaves. Is that Michael Powell's fault? Is it the people who complained about Janet Jackson's actions fault? Or is it- just maybe- Janet Jackson's fault you have to subscribe to Clear Channel to hear Howard Stern?
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Agreed. the superbowl was not the place for that.
With the Superbowl. The audiance was totally unexpecting that that was gonna happen.
the NFL for all its flaws does try to keep it clean on the airwaves so that everyone. Including children can watch it without worry of what is going ot be shown or heard next.
In the case of Howard Stern and where there is a slight difference is.
Howard has never touted himself as being a family oriented show. And has stated numerous times that he wouldnt let his kids listen.
With Howard you know to expect such things and have the choice to not tune in. Or forbid your children to. (God forbid parents actually do some parenting themselves)
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with stern.... he is on public airwaves.. the venue of public airwaves is that there is a code to follow... this allows parents to hit "seek" on the radio when traveling and not worry that the first words heard will be obscene.
stern pushed the limits in order to make money... just as a drug dealer who sells to anyone who walks up will make huge amounts of money..... the risk increases the profit.... till you get caught. He got caught and now he is crying like a baby.
All he needs to do is find a a pay for venue. If he is any good people will pay to hear him.
lazs
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Get off that hype Airhead and grab some ground below your feet.
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Originally posted by Siaf__csf
Get off that hype Airhead and grab some ground below your feet.
That's the best rebuttal you have? A flippant remark, designed to be offensive?
Too bad you're incapable of debate...oh well, as long as you have the "right" to be offensive, then I guess it's OK. :)
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Originally posted by lazs2
airhead wouldn't even have that job if he wasn't screwing the bosses wife.
lazs
LOL :D
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Originally posted by lazs2
with stern.... he is on public airwaves.. the venue of public airwaves is that there is a code to follow... this allows parents to hit "seek" on the radio when traveling and not worry that the first words heard will be obscene.
stern pushed the limits in order to make money... just as a drug dealer who sells to anyone who walks up will make huge amounts of money..... the risk increases the profit.... till you get caught. He got caught and now he is crying like a baby.
All he needs to do is find a a pay for venue. If he is any good people will pay to hear him.
lazs
What got Stern in trouble was "naming" certain sex acts.....exactly like Ophra did on TV. Only difference is he's Stern and she's Oprah and Stern didn't even decribe the acts like Oprah did.
Plus, they had to go back years to find this old bit on Stern.
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Heh Airhead you were being so pompous that your feet couldn't possibly touch the ground. That's all for today. :aok
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Originally posted by Siaf__csf
This is what's always puzzled me about americans. They constantly emphasize freedom - yet they continuously seek ways to limit it.
No bad words, no pron, no privacy.. That doesn't sound free at all to me.
How about HT's FREEDOM to conduct a BBS the way they want to. You have the FREEDOM conduct your own similar site the way you see fit, if you don't like this one. With freedom comes responsibility, and I'm surprised I have to say this to anyone on this bulletin board, but freedom doesn't mean you have the right to offend the majority.:rolleyes:
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Originally posted by slimm50
but freedom doesn't mean you have the right to offend the majority.:rolleyes:
Well actually it does mean you have the right. You just might not be able to post here anymore if you do:)
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The hitechcreations website is on my works internet filter banned list because game company webpages are against our company policy (as are all game pages)....
I guess they assume we should be working...
Tronsky
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Only the red ones.
Oh and .... some people need to get a life. I bet one of you guys actually enjoyed yelling out the end of the movie during the opening credits back when you were a kid... last year.
Awww what an insult that was.
Anyways if BJ's are illegal does same apply to muff diving ?
Aren't You concerned at all when the State tells you how to please your partner?
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Originally posted by Siaf__csf
Heh Airhead you were being so pompous that your feet couldn't possibly touch the ground. That's all for today. :aok
Ahhhh... That's better! When logic fails you then resort to name calling...THAT's the Siaf we all know and love! :rolleyes:
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I cant believe this thread is about someone complaining about getting in trouble for surfing this site from work. You are using their computers, their connection and thus its their dollar. You obviously were not supposed to be doing this and thats why there was trouble. I agree however that questionable links should not be on here but havent seen any that didnt have warnings. All companies I have been with instituted policies that if you were surfing anything non-work related it was punishable up to job loss. Didnt matter if its on your break you are eating up their bandwith.
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Seems to me that the network security *******s might notice a visit to HTC before they'd even raise an eyebrow about Amazon. Hell, at first glance, there is no possible way to tell from the URL that the link went to adult toys. Now, if the link went to bigthickanimaldildos.com, you might have issues.
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Originally posted by Raider179
I cant believe this thread is about someone complaining about getting in trouble for surfing this site from work. You are using their computers, their connection and thus its their dollar. You obviously were not supposed to be doing this and thats why there was trouble. I agree however that questionable links should not be on here but havent seen any that didnt have warnings. All companies I have been with instituted policies that if you were surfing anything non-work related it was punishable up to job loss. Didnt matter if its on your break you are eating up their bandwith.
Uh....You really think this thread is about "someone getting in trouble at work for surfing this site?" I thought this Thread was more about the appropiateness of allowing graphic images into what we all agree is not the appropiate venue for such images.
FWIW tho, they are MY Computers, it's MY Connection and they're MY rules- the only etched in stone one being that NO- repeat, NO- adult content sites allowed because to allow adult content sites may be offensive to others who work here, the UPS driver, or any client I'm giving the nickel tour to.
Anyway those Euros bragging about their "freedoms" are full of crap- for instance, wearing a swastika is forbidden in Germany, Moslem schoolgirls are forbidden to wear their traditional headgear in France, and in England they aren't allowed to display graphic images of Princess Di's car crash nor posess handguns.
However, they DO have the right to be offensive to others, smell bad, act rudely to American tourists and start World Wars.
And that, ladies and gentlemen, is the difference between them (and some of you who believe as they do) and us. Their most paramount "right" is the right to offend others; our most paramount responsibility is to NOT offend others.
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in America many of us know that freedom requires some iota of responsibility, and without that responsibility we lose our freedoms bit by bit.
Get off that hype Airhead and grab some ground below your feet.
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Actually siaf, Airhead is absolutely correct. Freedom without responsibilty and some controls is called anarchy. We're not interested, thanks.
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So don't visit this site while your not a work anymore like you said you wouldn't. There problem solved.
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So then Airhead.
You fired yourself for looking at inapproperiate material while at work?
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Originally posted by Airhead
Uh....You really think this thread is about "someone getting in trouble at work for surfing this site?" I thought this Thread was more about the appropiateness of allowing graphic images into what we all agree is not the appropiate venue for such images.
FWIW tho, they are MY Computers, it's MY Connection and they're MY rules- the only etched in stone one being that NO- repeat, NO- adult content sites allowed because to allow adult content sites may be offensive to others who work here, the UPS driver, or any client I'm giving the nickel tour to.
Then you should fire yourself for goofing off on "work" computers. Use your own personal computer for personal use and work computers for work. If they are one and the same then you should change your rules.
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Originally posted by Airhead
Uh....You really think this thread is about "someone getting in trouble at work for surfing this site?" I thought this Thread was more about the appropiateness of allowing graphic images into what we all agree is not the appropiate venue for such images.
FWIW tho, they are MY Computers, it's MY Connection and they're MY rules- the only etched in stone one being that NO- repeat, NO- adult content sites allowed because to allow adult content sites may be offensive to others who work here, the UPS driver, or any client I'm giving the nickel tour to.
Anyway those Euros bragging about their "freedoms" are full of crap- for instance, wearing a swastika is forbidden in Germany, Moslem schoolgirls are forbidden to wear their traditional headgear in France, and in England they aren't allowed to display graphic images of Princess Di's car crash nor posess handguns.
However, they DO have the right to be offensive to others, smell bad, act rudely to American tourists and start World Wars.
And that, ladies and gentlemen, is the difference between them (and some of you who believe as they do) and us. Their most paramount "right" is the right to offend others; our most paramount responsibility is to NOT offend others.
Looks like you like to be "in charge"; You like to be someone creating regulations and telling people how to behave, what to do and what not.
btw we have swastikas in some of our medals; muslims are free to wear what ever they want, Princess Di is yesterdays news and we can own even a frigging howitzer.
Don't worry; feel free to put us all in same lump and I'll be using examples from Chile and Argentina to tell what happens in US.
Naah; I wouldn't make such a mistake; I'm too intelligent for that.
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Originally posted by Airhead
Mora, Siaf, and you other "free" Euros- What freedoms you have were paid for in American blood, and without us you'd either be under the yoke of the Nazis or the Communists.
Rubbish.
You're saying millions of people died to preserve your "morals"; when you're stealing?
and this:
"Our style of freedom requires respect for others and responsibility....two words which don't seem to translate into European languages."
You mean English?
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Originally posted by Thrawn
So don't visit this site while your not a work anymore like you said you wouldn't. There problem solved.
Thrawn, that's just perfect- and if people didn't like Janet Jackson's boob flash at the Super Bowl then they should quit watching television, too.
After all, the rights of those to do or post whatever they want are paramount over the rights of those of us who feel we have a reasonable expectation to not to be ambushed by adult content either here or on TV halftime show.
Then, OTOH, you COULD keep your images to yourself, or display them in a proper forum- but no, you feel like you have the right to make me look.
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Originally posted by Raider179
Then you should fire yourself for goofing off on "work" computers. Use your own personal computer for personal use and work computers for work. If they are one and the same then you should change your rules.
Maybe YOU should refrain from posting inappropiate JPEGS on a PG rated site and not concern yourself with how my office runs.
BTW- How old are you anyway? I'm guessing 19-25...if you're older than that then I genuinely feel sorry for you.
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The joke was over 1 page in... yawn.
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Originally posted by Seeker
Rubbish.
You're saying millions of people died to preserve your "morals"; when you're stealing?
Uh...Seeker, look at a map of Europe circa 1944- now tell me how much of Europe wasn't under the control of either the Commies or Nazis.
And what I'm saying is millions of Americans died to bail you out- TWICE- when you couldn't settle your own affairs. It has nothing to do with our morals and everything to do with Europe's lack of morals- since you wish to define "morals" as "respect."
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millions ?
that would be the russians.
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I was going to catch up on this thread but I have to poop and that seems more interesting now that this thread has run it's course. Speaking of runs.... excuse me.
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Originally posted by straffo
millions ?
that would be the russians.
Are you saying Airhead is twisting history?
Oh no; where is this world going!
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Hey Airhead....
http://i.cnn.net/cnn/interactive/us/0409/list.us.casualties/popup.u.s.casualties05.gif
That is safe link; it doesn't contain any kind of nudity, violence or vulgarity.
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Originally posted by Staga
Are you saying Airhead is twisting history?
Oh no; where is this world going!
I don't know anything Airhead can't twist :p
and I think he don't know either :D
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btw Britons and Poles lost more troops in WW2 and neither were they who to blame... But if it makes You feel somehow superior then go for it Airhead.
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Originally posted by Airhead
Maybe YOU should refrain from posting inappropiate JPEGS on a PG rated site and not concern yourself with how my office runs.
BTW- How old are you anyway? I'm guessing 19-25...if you're older than that then I genuinely feel sorry for you.
27.... Feel sorry for yourself. You cant even keep your office in line. Your also the one that brought your office into this. You should have just sent an email to HTC but looks like you went the O'club ccompaint department route instead.
FYI I dont post any links to anything besides news or info.
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Something awfawy scwewy going on awound here
Fist we have the original post By Airhead.
Later in this thread we have 3 posts. Two from people claiming to have coresponded with AH. 1 of which claims it was by phone. 1 claiming to have received an Email
and another speaking as if he personally knows AH
the posters are Funked, SOB, And Drunky
2 of the post claim that AH personally told them he got in trouble at work. 1 went so far as to say he said he got fired.
The posts are as follows
Originally posted by FUNKED1
You guys just don't get it. The IT people at Airhead's job are real **********s. He could really get in trouble with upper management if we don't clean it up, pronto.
Originally posted by SOB
Unbelieveable. I just spoke with Airhead on the phone. He was warned about visiting this site after the last hotlink that was logged by IT. For coming here and posting this now (basically just for visiting the site), he's been canned. His boss was a total jerk and had it out for him anyway, but still, what a bummer. Airhead, I'm sorry if I was in any way responsible. :(
QUOTE]Originally posted by Drunky
I've just received a nasty email from Airhead.
Apparently he is very upset not only by losing his job but also my repeated calling of him 'raymond' and my 'flippiant tone' about Not Work Safe material.
After his email I have had time to reflect upon what he wrote and his circumstances and I will have to reverse myself.....
yadda yadda yadda Airhead [/QUOTE]
Now there has been no confirmation. Or denial From Airhead on these posts cept in one where he claims the computers are "his" which would lead one to believe the business is also his.
So basically someone is full of crap.(otherwise read as Bovine Scat)
I was initially on the side of AH on this one. Still am on the subject at hand as to what should be appropriate on THIS site.
But that is where it stops.
It is obvious that this thread is
Nothing more then a troll in the form of a public tempertantrum on Airheads part.
So how about this Airhead.
How about instead of throwing a temper tantrum, complete with footstomping, kicking and whining. How about when you find something you dont like, you drop an email or otherwise contact Skuzzy about it and not try to dictate your terms,rules and regulations on someone elses board.
Based ont he last two threads you started on this issue. And the posts you have placed in them
You obviously have control issues you need to deal with.
I suggest a good psychotherapist might be in order.
Or perhaps a good dominatrix.
Worry about what controlling what really is yours (hint this BB int.)
Your business, provided you arent full of it on that, IS
And that is where your realm of control ends.
If you still feel you dont have enough control then go hire some Mexicans or something.
Then you can dictate your terms as you see fit
But when you find something you dont like or feel is inappropriate here. Complain to the proper people (another hint, WE the people on these boards arent them)
Skuzzy and Hitech are.
If Skuzzy or Hitech is in agreement with you they will take the proper measures. In fact I think they have been doing a pretty good job of doing exactly that.
to the point of IMO going a bit overboard on rare occasion.
But as I've said before.
Its THEIR board. Let THEM handle it.
But leave your tempertantrum trolls elsewhere.
They are as inappropriate as the very things you are whining about.
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
But leave your tempertantrum trolls elsewhere.
They are as inappropriate as the very things you are whining about.
They are very appropriate. They are an amusing diversion from the political maggot ridden diarrhea infesting this board.
-SW
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
So how about this Airhead.
How about instead of throwing a temper tantrum, complete with footstomping, kicking and whining. How about when you find something you dont like, you drop an email or otherwise contact Skuzzy about it and not try to dictate your terms,rules and regulations on someone elses board.
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I was being a dork with a point instead of (as usual) a pointless dork.
And I would hardly call my posts "temper tantrums."
And I'm not dictating the rules of this Board- I was urging others to follow those rules.
But- the point is made, so I'm out of the discussion.
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Originally posted by Airhead
I was being a dork with a point instead of (as usual) a pointless dork.
And I would hardly call my posts "temper tantrums."
And I'm not dictating the rules of this Board- I was urging others to follow those rules.
But- the point is made, so I'm out of the discussion.
Awwe dont take it too personally
We still love ya.
Besides most of my best friends are psychotic.
Does this mean you dont want a good dominatrix?
I would say it couldnt hurt but that would be less then truthful.
:D
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Awwe dont take it too personally
We still love ya.
Besides most of my best friends are psychotic.
Does this mean you dont want a good dominatrix?
I would say it couldnt hurt but that would be less then truthful.
:D
I prefer S&M clowns over a dominatrix, my favorite being Ouchy the Clown (do a Google, no links from me) ;)
All the pain plus twice the laughs.
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pron! pron! pron!
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sorry Airhead it was not my foult this time, MiniD should not post links like that over here
(nfb, congrats)