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Title: any wine fans?
Post by: tapakeg on February 19, 2005, 10:17:48 PM
I'm almost finished with my wine cellar.  It's been coming along piece by piece.

I just got back from Napa / Sonoma (again) this past week.  If you haven't been there, it's worth the trip.  

It's an interesting hobby.  I recently took a different job so I could finish school, and my wine cellar isn't what it used to be.

Any other Vino fans out there?
What type / region / brand names of wine do you all like?

Any good bottles you want to brag on?

Any good inexpensive wines that great everyday drinkers?


"I like Carlo Rossi,  Thunderbird, Mad Dog 20 / 20 kiwi strawberry. any box wine" .........There, I gave some smart prettythang replies on wine for you all.  I know they were definitely on the way.  :)







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Tapakeg
Title: any wine fans?
Post by: JB88 on February 19, 2005, 10:53:11 PM
mmmmmmmm.  yummy.

tonight, i am drinking a cheap bottle of loius jadot beaujolais.  

not great.  but always great to be drinking wine.

i have found a few chilean wines that i like
though i most often drink merlot.

most recently i have rediscovered port wine.
Title: any wine fans?
Post by: Storm7 on February 20, 2005, 12:34:28 AM
I am a firm believer that you can find some of the best wines in the world under $15 a bottle.

I like full bodied red wines (prepare for a barrage of "full bodied" jokes). My favorite is Beautiet Vinyards out of California (sp? I don't have a bottle in front of me to spell it). It has a red BV on the lable. I like their Coastal cabernet. Their Napa Valley wines are good but more expensive.

If you get any red wine from the Roija region of Spain, you are in for a nice treat.

There is also a very good Malbec from a lable out of Argentina called Trumpeters. It is cheap but a little hard to find sometimes.

If you are in for the bubbly stuff, I suggest a brut from Korbel if you like it dry. They have a blend called "Natural" that is not as dry and has a nice fruity under lying taste.

If you go to a liquor store, they will probably give you up to a 10% discount if you buy your wines by the case. Some, but not all, will give you that discount even if you mix different kinds of wines to make that case. Try to find these ones. Then again, if you have built a cellar, you probably know this already.

Enjoy,
Storm7
Title: any wine fans?
Post by: Siaf__csf on February 20, 2005, 01:37:05 AM
I'm a wine lover too, but I'm not a hobbyist enough to start my own cellar.

Many times I've made a firm decision to start a collection but the darn bottles get empty somehow. HOW? I don't know. Don't remember.. :D

I find it quite funny that the only place you can taste the original French wine is California these days. The imported plants are all that's left from the big disaster.

There are many good wines coming from Chile and even South-Africa. France in spite of the destruction of the plants still produces good wine, they have a long tradition to back it up.

One of my best friends is the sales manager of one of the biggest wine factories of Greece. Surprisingly enough(;)), he has showed me that the Greek wines can also be very enjoyable.
Title: any wine fans?
Post by: tapakeg on February 20, 2005, 01:39:59 AM
So far Ravenswood Zinfandel is our favorite budget drinker.


Beauleau Vinyards BTW   yeah,  BV for short.


Yup, the gem is finding great wine under 15 dollars a bottle.

It's fun to taste wine blind, not knowing what it is or how much it costs.  You can be easily pursuaded by an image of how good the wine is "supposed to be"

What's cool is my collection of wine from all over the world.  I have wine from China, Poland, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Hawaii, Kansas, Tennessee, Florida,    some I wouldn't cook with, but it's fun to have

Tapakeg
Title: any wine fans?
Post by: tapakeg on February 20, 2005, 01:41:30 AM
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I'm a wine lover too, but I'm not a hobbyist enough to start my own cellar.



That's ok,   95% of wine bought is drank that night

Once my collection got big enough, I had to get a temperature controlled cellar so I could keep them a couple of years


Tapakeg
Title: any wine fans?
Post by: Silat on February 20, 2005, 01:42:55 AM
Ive been drinking my late 70's and my 80's wines. YUMMY:)

Madame Lily Bollinger's philosophy:

"I only drink champagne when I'm happy, and when I'm sad. Sometimes I drink it when I'm alone.
When I have company, I consider it obligatory.
I trifle with it if I am not hungry and drink it when I am.
Otherwise I never touch it - unless I'm thirsty."




This list is about 2 yrs old. So prices will not be correct.


OREGON
Owen Roe  
Sineann
Terra Blanca from Red Mt.
 Pepper Bridge from Walla Walla.
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Stephen Ross Wines
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For Zin thrill seekers (under $20)
Dry Creek Heritage Clone 1999, 2000 and 2001
Ballentine 1997 and 2001 should be dynamite

Over $20
if you can find theses, they will change your preception of Zin: Turley
Martinelli (esp the *******) and Hartford (esp the Highwire).
Tres Sabores - any of the three
Carrole Shelton - Wild Things (wow!)
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GERMAN
 Graf van Schonborn-Erbacher Marcobrunn Kab $16  Rheingau
 Schonborn Pfaffenberg Spaetlese 99/01  
 Schonborn Pfaffenberg Kabinett  01
 Cousino-Macul Antiguas Reserva Cabernet Sauvignon 99  $12
2002 Hermann Dönnhoff Norheimer Dellchen Kabinett    $24
2001 Robert Weil Kiedrich Gräfenberg Riesling Spätlese $45
Rudi Pichler - Austrian
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Tenuta San Guido Sassicaia 1997                                      $145
1998 Fattoria Petrolo Galatrona (Toscana IGT, Ch. Colli Aretini)  $90
1998 Tenuta dell'Ornellaia Masseto                                       $240
1997 Le Macchiole Messorio (Toscana IGT, Bolgheri)           $600
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2000 Domaine Combier Crozes Hermitage Clos des Grives

1999 Chateau St. Martin de la Garrigue Coteaux de Languedoc or Bronzinelle $9 could pass for a top quality Cotes du Rhone or a medium weight CdP.
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1999 Gary Farrell "Russian River Valley" Pinot Noir.
color: pale garnet, quite light in color, with no sign of browning at
the edges
nose:  smoke, minerals, cherry fruit and a slight hint of mushrooms(lovely!)
palate: Bright fruit on entry, rich sense of velvety fruit in the
midpalate with excellent structure and a beautiful finish.   There is no lack of fruit, but it's kept in careful balance by the acidity.
This is his lowest level bottling from an outstanding vintage. To me, this is what New World Pinot Noir is all about.
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2001 Milz Trittenheimer Leiterchen Auslese (was $31.99) $22.99
2001 Monchhof Erdener Pralat Auslese (was $39.99)         $29.99
2000 Bernadotte, Haut-Médoc                                            $18.99

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Maume Gevrey Chambertin    2000

AMARONE
1997 Agricola Arana Amarone della Valpolicella ($63)
1997 Tenuta Sant'Antonio Campo dei Gigli Amarone ($54)
1997 Cesari "il Bosco" Amarone della Valpolicella ($46)
1997 Corte Sant'Alda Amarone (US$59)
1997 Masi Amarone Classico Costasera (US$44)
1997 Masi Amarone Classico "Serego Alighieri Vaio Armaron"
(US$54)
1997 Masi Amarone Vaio ($46)
1997 Monte Daniela Amarone Classico ($45)
1998 Nicolis Amarone "Ambrosan" (US$45)
1998 Trabucchi Amarone della Valpolicella (US$50)
1998 Venturini Amarone Classico ($42)
1998 Allegrini Amarone (US$57)
1999 Le Salette Amarone "Marega" (US$45)

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Champagne
1) Large negociants that make truly great stuff: Bollinger, Roederer, Ruinart, Deutz

2) Medium sized houses that also make great stuff: Jacquesson, Gosset

3) the smaller récoltants that I love, our AFW friend Francis Boulard, of course, but also De Sousa, Diebolt, Egly, Fleury, Gatinois, Gimonnet, Larmandier, Pouillon, Prévost, Selosse, Tarlant
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SMALL CHAMPAGNE HOUSES SINGLE GRAPE

 Larmandier-Bernier's Terre de Vertus
 Vilmart & Cie
 René Geoffroy
 Chartogne-Taillet
 Pierre Gimonnet et Fils
 Godmé Père et Fils
 Michel Genet
José Dhondt
 Egly-Ouriet

More Bubbly
Col Sandago Prosecco Extra Dry Valdobbiadene D.O.C. 2002
Gruet
Icardi Moscato d'Asti (lightly sweet)
Nivole Moscato d'Asti (lightly sweet)
Roderer Andersen Valley $13
Seaview Brut, a GREAT QPR






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PARTY WINES AND CROWD PLEASERS

Bogle Old Vine Zin and Petite Sirah ($8 per, each)
Beckmen CdR blend ($15)

Cave de Lugny, Macon-Lugny Les Charmes 2001
Chateau Thebot
Cline Zinfandels
Columbia Crest Grand Estates Syrah, Washington State  2001  ($12-$14)

Dom Cantarelles  $11.95
Domaine la garrigue, cuvee romaine, cotes du rhone 2001 (RMP 91), $10
Dom. de la Petite Cassagne, Costieres de Nimes 2000

Fat Bastard Syrah $10

Guigal Cotes du Rhone $9

Jewel  Viognier and PetiteSyrah
Jaffurs

Ojai NV Red $12

Penfold's Bin 2 $9
Powers

Reds by Laurel Glen $9
Rosemount Diamond Label Shiraz $9
Rosemount GSM
Ridge zinfandel (they have many, pick your price)
Ravenswood Zin

Ste. Michelle and J. Lohr Seven Oaks $15

Taurino Notaparano $12
Yvon Mau Merlot
2002 Leitz "Dragonstone" (Rüdesheim Drachenstein) Qba (Rheingau) $9
J.C. Pichot 2002, 1990 Vouvray
2002 Leitz "Dragonstone" (Rüdesheim Drachenstein) Qba (Rheingau) $9
J.C. Pichot 2002, 1990 Vouvray
2002 Thomas-Labaille  "Les Monts Damnés" Sancerre Chavignol










SHERRY and PORTS


Manzanilla Papirusa (delicate, stone dry, mervelous)
Puerto Fino (delicate, stone dry, mervelous)
Palo Cortado Almacenista Vides (unparalleled, like a "light" cognac)
Oloroso Eperatriz Eugenia
Old East India

BTW, also try some Jamon Iberico Pata Negra Bellota, together with a good fino/manzanilla its unbeatable.
Title: any wine fans?
Post by: Siaf__csf on February 20, 2005, 01:45:21 AM
Oops this post rocketed faster than I thought while I was editing my first post..

Wine is a matter of passion for many.
Title: any wine fans?
Post by: rpm on February 20, 2005, 01:58:57 AM
The BV "Rutherford Estate" is my favorite Cal Cab. Perfect match for a Rib Eye off the grill.  Hard to find, but worth the hunt. Sells for $24+/-. A steal.:cool:
Title: any wine fans?
Post by: Leslie on February 20, 2005, 03:55:50 AM
I go tjrough about 5 to 7 bottles of Syrah per week.  Easy to drink, very good wine.:D



Les
Title: any wine fans?
Post by: JB88 on February 20, 2005, 04:24:45 AM
i once had a commemorative bottle of
"always ELVIS" wine.

we decided to open it up on the millineum.

it was crap.

too bad.  the bottle was way sexy.
Title: any wine fans?
Post by: Saintaw on February 20, 2005, 07:06:17 AM
Brunello di montalcino. Try that.

You should be SHOT for mentioning boxed wines though...
Title: any wine fans?
Post by: ygsmilo on February 20, 2005, 09:43:53 AM
I have been collecting for about 20 yrs, my cellar has about 900 bottles in it now.  I started out with Bordeaux with the 89 and 90 vintage.  But Bodeaux got way out of my price range so I started going to Oregon in the Pinot country and got hooked on them.  

We make a trip out there every year and have built up good relationships with many wineries.

Last few years the Rhones have been really good.

The advice I give folks who what to get into it, find a local wine tasting group and get involved. It is the best way to meet like minded folks and get to try wines you would not usually try.  That is how I got started on German wines, imho  some of the best wines in the world with a good QPR.

And if you have not seen the move Sideways, go see it.
Title: any wine fans?
Post by: Krusher on February 20, 2005, 09:56:36 AM
We have been buying Chiliean Wine for about two years now.  

Theses two are inexpensive and very nice.

Primus Veramonte
Memorias
Title: any wine fans?
Post by: JB88 on February 20, 2005, 12:30:54 PM
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Originally posted by ygsmilo
I have been collecting for about 20 yrs, my cellar has about 900 bottles in it now.  I started out with Bordeaux with the 89 and 90 vintage.  But Bodeaux got way out of my price range so I started going to Oregon in the Pinot country and got hooked on them.  

We make a trip out there every year and have built up good relationships with many wineries.

Last few years the Rhones have been really good.

The advice I give folks who what to get into it, find a local wine tasting group and get involved. It is the best way to meet like minded folks and get to try wines you would not usually try.  That is how I got started on German wines, imho  some of the best wines in the world with a good QPR.

And if you have not seen the move Sideways, go see it.


great movie.

my college sweetheart's father was a winemaker by hobby.  a close friend of mine just started.  looking forward to the experiments...though not the initial ones.  those scare me.

88
Title: any wine fans?
Post by: Siaf__csf on February 20, 2005, 12:51:20 PM
900 bottles?

Man we're talking about a serious hangover when he finally decides to drink them. :cool:
Title: any wine fans?
Post by: Maverick on February 20, 2005, 01:29:31 PM
I enjoy some wines. I don't care for burgandy's or "full bodied" reds. I prefer lighter whit wines.

When stationed in the area east of San Francisco I visitrd several wineries on a small tasting trip. I enjoyed the Berringer wines, Wente, and Fetzer. There are a few in Texas that I sampled in Fredricksburg. They had a sweet red that was very light and quite nice, I don't recall the name. I also enjoy mead as well. Chaucer's is the most common brand.
Title: any wine fans?
Post by: DREDIOCK on February 20, 2005, 01:58:52 PM
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Originally posted by JB88
mmmmmmmm.  yummy.

tonight, i am drinking a cheap bottle of loius jadot beaujolais.  

not great.  but always great to be drinking wine.

i have found a few chilean wines that i like
though i most often drink merlot.

most recently i have rediscovered port wine.

I tend to  prefer Sweet or semisweet wines.
Also rediscovered Port which is a fav of mine later at night while surfing before I go to bed
tried different price ranges up to $50 a bottle but have to say my the one I've liked the best so far has got to be the Sandeman Founders reserve for between $12-15 a bottle.

Also have a taste for  Riesling but I've only tried a few different brands of which so far I like the  "Piesporter Michelsberg Riesling Spatlese"
Which I actually first picked up as a cheap (under $10) wine to cook with and ended up drinking it instead because I liked it so much.

Its now a regular at my house for parties and holiday gatherings in place of White Zinfandel which for some reason I dont like.

Also I can appreciate a good bottle of
Cold Duck or  Chateau Neuf Du Pape but dont seem to have the taste for it I used to Though it has been  been my experiance that the more expencive this one costs the better it tends to be LOL
Title: any wine fans?
Post by: Replicant on February 20, 2005, 02:20:27 PM
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Originally posted by ygsmilo
I have been collecting for about 20 yrs, my cellar has about 900 bottles in it now.  I started out with Bordeaux with the 89 and 90 vintage.  But Bodeaux got way out of my price range so I started going to Oregon in the Pinot country and got hooked on them.  


I have  '82 and '85 bottles of Bordeaux.

I actually rather like Chilean red wines and Portugese Ramada is very exceptional too (well, the 2000 bottle I had was good!).
Title: any wine fans?
Post by: ygsmilo on February 20, 2005, 04:38:25 PM
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Originally posted by Replicant
I have  '82 and '85 bottles of Bordeaux.

I actually rather like Chilean red wines and Portugese Ramada is very exceptional too (well, the 2000 bottle I had was good!).


I picked up quite a few 2nd and 3rd growth 82's a few years ago at auction, drank most of them they were great wines.  Most of them were still a little young.  I have a few 1st growth 75's I have been holding that prob need to be drank.

Last nite - d'Arenburg "Stump Jumper" a great little wine for $12
Title: any wine fans?
Post by: eskimo2 on February 20, 2005, 04:45:27 PM
If you're too much of an impressionable idiot to watch "Sideways," then don't. (http://www.thehowdydoodyuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=sideways)

eskimo
Title: any wine fans?
Post by: Eagler on February 20, 2005, 07:22:51 PM
a trip over there 6 years ago cost me a subscription to this place for the wife:
http://www.viansa.com/
She gets two bottles a month from them and loves it.
Title: any wine fans?
Post by: tapakeg on February 20, 2005, 07:42:28 PM
Yeah, the wine clubs can be the way to go.  I used to belong to some, but it kinda overwhelmed my collection.  I like to have a diverse collection.  We then joined at Franciscan, and loved it because they are owned by a wine club that also owns Simi, Estancia, Ravenswood, and several others.  We would get wine from here and there.  It was always a good selection also.  


Yeah, you have to like what you like and don't  let other people influence you.  I had a cocktail waitress RAVE about this particular wine, it was AWESOME...etc....  i asked her how much more of it she bought since it was so good and inexpensive, she said she didn't want to buy any more because it was TOO inexpensive.


I had a wine party at my house, where people brought their favorite bottle of wine under 25 bucks.  Once they got there, i took it from them and put it in a brown bag to the rim so no one knew what wine was what, not even the bottle they brought.  I even threw in a bottle of $50 dollar wine, a bottle of 2 buck chuck, and a bottle of carlo rossi (poured it in a normal bottle, the jug would have given it away.)
EVERYONE picked out the Carlo Rossi as crap, but the $50 bottle of wine came in around 3rd or 4th.  

It's what you like.


Tapakeg
Title: any wine fans?
Post by: RTR on February 20, 2005, 07:49:07 PM
RED, always French or Italian.
WHITE: French or German (German if you want a realy spectacular dry white  "Trocken" (dry). And yep, the year really does make  a difference.

My best advice though, is experiment.

I have been half way around this tiny globe, and have had many pleasant surprises.

Of course though, nothing beats a nice Glenn Fiddich single malt. hehe.

RTR
Title: any wine fans?
Post by: Cooley on February 20, 2005, 09:38:11 PM
Ive been enjoying Aussie Shiraz and Northern Rhone Syrah's alot,
same grape,,but quite different styles and can be had for fairly cheap

Were in a great time for wine right now,,,most of the current realeases are fantastic vintages,2001 will be known as one of the great ones in Napa,the cabs are all great, even the cheapies

2002 Oregon pinots (may fav varietal) and the Russian River and Sonoma coast pinots

For whites, I like the New Zealand sauv blancs
and just about anything from Alsace

Best wine ive ever had- 82 Cheval Blanc or 77 Taylor Port
Fav Scotch distillery- Mcallan
Fav Brandy house- Fussigny Cognac or Gemain-Robin from Mendocino
Fav Brewery- Red Hook or Ej.Phair
Title: any wine fans?
Post by: Masherbrum on February 21, 2005, 12:19:16 AM
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Originally posted by Silat
Ive been drinking my late 70's and my 80's wines. YUMMY:)


OREGON
Owen Roe  
Sineann
Terra Blanca from Red Mt.
 Pepper Bridge from Walla Walla.

BTW, also try some Jamon Iberico Pata Negra Bellota, together with a good fino/manzanilla its unbeatable.



When my buddy lived in Tigard (he lives in Tracy, CA now), we'd go to Ponzi and Duck Pond.  Duck Pond has the best Gewurtzstraminer (my fav. type) and Ponzi has the best White Riesling.  

Oregon has great wines.  

Karaya
Title: any wine fans?
Post by: Makarov9 on February 21, 2005, 02:35:40 AM
It's all fermented grape juice.

I did enjoy our recent behind-the-scenes tour of Opus One in Napa. The cute French girl giving us the tour made it especially enjoyable. :)
Title: any wine fans?
Post by: straffo on February 21, 2005, 02:37:17 AM
I'm a wine dweeb ... being french help I suppose :)

Unfortunatly I've no correct plane to store wine at home* so I've only some casual wine ,good to dring with a BBQ but not good for more complex food :(

Quote
Originally posted by RTR
RED, always French or Italian.
WHITE: French or German (German if you want a realy spectacular dry white  "Trocken" (dry). And yep, the year really does make  a difference.


try to get a  Tokay aszu (Hungary)


Quote
Originally posted by tapakeg

It's what you like.


Tapakeg [/B]


So true and the only thing you shouldn't forgot when starting tasting wine.
We're not equal for the taste.
Ei : I'm not really found of the Bordeaux and the one I prefer are the Graves wich not "not"  the best Bordeaux ...
go figure ....

*,snirf boohoohohoho :(
Title: any wine fans?
Post by: beet1e on February 21, 2005, 03:25:14 AM
I think I'd like Silat's wine cellar. :eek:

My most memorable bottle of wine was bought in Italy in 1984. There was a duty free shop next to our hotel, and I loaded a carton with 11 run of the mill bottles which were actually quite good but much cheaper than they would be here. My 12th bottle was to be more special - a 1964 Barolo. It cost more than the other 11 put together - lol. Not a wine that can be drunk quickly. We had a steak dinner and this bottle of Barolo which kept us going all evening. It was very good.  There were older bottles I could have bought but could not reasonably afford. The oldest one they had was a 1952, IIRC.

Nowadays I tend to focus on Chilean red wines, particularly Merlot. They are good value. Also Spanish Riojas can be extremely good.

I agree with what others are saying about price v quality here. In Britain, the best wines are about £7 - £8 (~$15) in the supermarket. I have bought more expensive ones, but find they're not really worth the extra. I've been disappointed at £20, but delighted at £5.
Title: any wine fans?
Post by: Maverick on February 21, 2005, 12:21:46 PM
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
When my buddy lived in Tigard (he lives in Tracy, CA now), we'd go to Ponzi and Duck Pond.  Duck Pond has the best Gewurtzstraminer (my fav. type) and Ponzi has the best White Riesling.  

Oregon has great wines.  

Karaya


Try the Fetzer brand, it's one of my favorites as well.
Title: any wine fans?
Post by: Cooley on February 21, 2005, 12:35:44 PM
Ahh,,,no doubt you were refering to the jackarse vineyard there silat :) good stuff,,,,,but all turley wines way overpriced for me

Ive had the Martinelli zin from the same vineyard,great,but also quite pricey

Like all them Amarone 97's ya have, there gonna be great
very intresting method they use there..

Small Champ house ya did not mention i really like, Jacquesson and Delamonte (where non vintage Salon is sold to im told)

Gary Farrell is one of my favourite pinots also, have ya ever had any Pisoni vnyd wines? best in califorina IMO, though some of the Russian River winerys come a close 2nd, Rochioli, Merry Edwards

Beetle,,whats your current fav Rioja (current release)
im getting into those as well

If i had it my way, there would be a law in California that only allowed certain varietals to be grown in certain appelations, but thats another topic, nm ;)
Title: any wine fans?
Post by: Mighty1 on February 21, 2005, 12:46:24 PM
Kinda funny seeing who admits to be a wine drinker.

Kinda the left side of the scale.


Not that there is anything wrong with it.:rofl
Title: any wine fans?
Post by: tapakeg on February 21, 2005, 01:34:39 PM
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Kinda funny seeing who admits to be a wine drinker.



what, we all have to drink whiskey straight in a dirty glass?
Title: any wine fans?
Post by: Vipermann on February 21, 2005, 01:54:10 PM
My wife and I are both avid wine drinkers, her parents started making it a few years ago.

We've since started to experiment with making it ourselves, I've been pleasantly suprised with the results so far. Mostly we've been perfecting our residual sugar abilities.

As far as what I like I've found it mostly depends on my mood. I can sit in front of the fireplace with a Dr. Fronks Pinot Noir and talk to the wife about serious things, or sit on the deck overlooking our vines with a Chateau Lafayette Reisling and laugh about how stupid the golfers on hole #4 are being trying for the 3rd time to chip over the tiered part of the green and stick it on the backside at the hole.

Our cellar stands at about 250 bottles but I would say half that is wine we made.
Title: any wine fans?
Post by: NATEDOG on February 21, 2005, 02:02:02 PM
My wife and I went to Napa and Sonoma for our honeymoon last year.... it was great! the stayed at the Estate house at Fransican Estates, had a privet tour with them... sampled wines that they hadn't released yet. Then we went to Del Dotto, and took the cave tour...VERY COOL! we also got a privet tour at Sawyer Cellars from the head winemaker there.
We had a great time, and brought back many good wines....
we got the 3 pack collector's edition of the Del Dotto Cab... each bottle was from the same batch of wine, but aged in different types of barrels. We got a Meritage and a Merlot from Sawyer cellars... something from Mayo in Sonoma....
I can't wait to go back! I think I'll open a Del Dotto tonight!

but for cheap everyday wines... we like the South Austrailian wines... Yellow Tail and Little Penguin... Melot Shiraz, and Cab.
Title: any wine fans?
Post by: beet1e on February 21, 2005, 02:07:17 PM
Cooley - I buy what's available. Some are better than others. I can't remember any names offhand.
Title: any wine fans?
Post by: slimm50 on February 21, 2005, 02:59:52 PM
I'm a pretty big fan of wine. Unfortunately, I don't drink alcoholic bevs, anymore.;)
Title: any wine fans?
Post by: tapakeg on February 21, 2005, 03:08:58 PM
Natedog, that sawyer merlot is great !!,    the meritage is just ok, IMHO
Title: any wine fans?
Post by: Creamo on February 21, 2005, 03:18:18 PM
Interesting thread. At least intrigued me enough to try some wine I had bought for my wacky living room wine guy holder. Turns out it is Clos Du Bois Pinot Noir 2002. I opened it while warm because I wanted to try it. Didn't know if that was right or wrong, was tasty anyway. Been chilling it for 1/2 hour and it's still kinda ging ging crazy and fruity. Not sure if the aftertaste is that awesome, but it gave a fun head buzz right away. I could see how people would enjoy wine at a nice party or something. Not sure about the food thing, guess I should try it.
Title: any wine fans?
Post by: vorticon on February 21, 2005, 03:38:20 PM
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Originally posted by tapakeg
what, we all have to drink whiskey straight in a dirty glass?


glass?
Title: any wine fans?
Post by: DoctorYO on February 21, 2005, 04:10:16 PM
No Port Drinkers......   wtf... heretics...  Especially from american drinkers considering it was the staple wine for our founding fathers....

On another note I would suggest Rubicon (Ford Coppola) ( http://www.niebaum-coppola.com/site.php ) for special occasions as it will not break the bank ; its not cheap either... 80 + Dollars/ btl Hence special occasions) but you will get some premium wine from the Rubicon label to judge others by..

A good drinking/table port is Grahams Six Grapes Port.... (cheap too...) and is my usual staple if im going to drink wine.




DoctorYo
Title: any wine fans?
Post by: ygsmilo on February 21, 2005, 04:24:33 PM
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Originally posted by DoctorYO

On another note I would suggest Rubicon (Ford Coppola) ( http://www.niebaum-coppola.com/site.php ) for special occasions as it will not break the bank ; its not cheap either... 80 + Dollars/ btl Hence special occasions) but you will get some premium wine from the Rubicon label to judge others by..


DoctorYo


I drank the last bottle of a case 1986 Rubicon just last week.  It was a great bottle of wine.  My how times have changed, that case cost 27/bottle.

Port is an aquired taste, I like a simple twany for after dinner some but I do have a few vintage ports put away.  One of the best buys I ever made, 1977 Fonsca/ $35 a bottle split a case with my father-in-law.    Traded a bottle of it last year for a case of 1995 Pol Roger Blanc de Blanc.
Title: any wine fans?
Post by: beet1e on February 21, 2005, 04:42:55 PM
OK, a question for you wine lovers. How much do you like to drink per day? Half a litre? Less? More? And do you drink every day?
Title: any wine fans?
Post by: Halo on February 21, 2005, 05:02:29 PM
Red wine is supposed to be good for you, so I'm a willing particpant in the recommended one to two glasses per day.

Basically I'm el cheapo but my taste is refined enough to reject immature wines that taste like vinegar.  

Used to enjoy an inexpensive merlot from Chile until Consumer Reports flagged it as a best buy and it got more pricey and less tasty ... so I think, anyway.

Recently been trying some shiraz and merlot from Black Swan in Australia, and found a new favorite:  Shiraz-Merlot, which is 75% shiraz and 25% merlot.

The year does make a difference.  Had a rather exotic (honest) Virginia wine that was excellent one year.  So we visited the winery to buy more.  The owner explained how wine does indeed vary considerably year by year depending on growing conditions

Which we verified because we never again found a vintage for that wine that tasted as good.
Title: any wine fans?
Post by: Krusher on February 21, 2005, 05:03:19 PM
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Originally posted by beet1e
OK, a question for you wine lovers. How much do you like to drink per day? Half a litre? Less? More? And do you drink every day?


2 glasses at night, maybe 3 on the weekend
Title: any wine fans?
Post by: DREDIOCK on February 21, 2005, 05:18:02 PM
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Originally posted by DoctorYO
No Port Drinkers......   wtf... heretics...  Especially from american drinkers considering it was the staple wine for our founding fathers....



DoctorYo


You couldnt have read the entire thread.

both JB88 and myself mentioned we like Port
:)
Title: any wine fans?
Post by: tapakeg on February 21, 2005, 05:24:05 PM
Some from my collection.


from left to right

1997 Opus One
1996 Chateau St. Jean Cinq Cepages  (wine of the year signed by the wine maker)
1994 Silver Oak ( this is my oldest one, I have several after this year)
1982 Chateau Haut Brion (empty, kept the bottle)
1982 Petrus (again empty )
1985 Lafite Rothschild




(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/279_1109027508_picture074.jpg)



Tapakeg
Title: any wine fans?
Post by: Cooley on February 21, 2005, 05:35:29 PM
Nice Tapa,,,,,,I remember buying that 96' Cinq Cepage wholesale before the Spectator rating came out, at 16$ a bottle

Drink that '82 Haut Brion soon,,,,,last one i tried,seemed to be loosin its fruit
Title: any wine fans?
Post by: tapakeg on February 21, 2005, 05:42:36 PM
I've got 94-present in the cinq cepages.

Yeah, it used to be fairly inexpensive, in 1996 it was around 20 bucks a bottle then after getting wine of the year it was around 75 dollars.

Both of the 82's are empty.  Heck I didn't even drink them.  They came from the restaurant I used to bartend at.  The Petrus went for i think 2 grand a bottle at the restaurant.  It was comped anyway, he paid for it on the blackjack table.


Tapakeg