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Title: For the fans of the P47
Post by: Guppy35 on February 19, 2005, 11:41:45 PM: Found this link in another forum.

http://airpowerstock.moorecastsites.com/upload_user/P47.wmv

Some good stuff

Dan/Slack
Title: For the fans of the P47
Post by: mechanic on February 20, 2005, 12:16:54 AM: man, the pre-flight checks were a little relaxed :)

i had my instructor go mental over preflights when i was sloppy and only spent 4 mins.........and we were flying a circuit round a field in a cessna, not going to war in a JUG..

great film thank you sir.
Title: For the fans of the P47
Post by: nopoop on February 20, 2005, 12:40:52 AM: Guppy you are without a doubt are THE man.

Thanks !!

That stirs the soul.
Title: For the fans of the P47
Post by: XrightyX on February 20, 2005, 01:43:02 AM: Great stuff.

Edit: LOL did you see them vulch that parked plane? And then that other one pwned that toolshed.

Gives me hope. I'm not being a dweeb when I fly...just being, erm, "historically accurate" and stuff.
Title: For the fans of the P47
Post by: Grits on February 20, 2005, 02:20:44 AM: Took em forever to get the town down too and the M3 was sitting there waiting.
Title: For the fans of the P47
Post by: TBolt A-10 on February 20, 2005, 03:30:45 AM: awesome. thanks for posting the film, Guppy. :)

137 Germans downed vs 97 Thunderbold pilots. Still seems like a bitter pill to swallow.
Title: For the fans of the P47
Post by: SunTracker on February 20, 2005, 05:18:57 AM: 97 out of 175 P-47 pilots killed on a single mission!
Title: For the fans of the P47
Post by: BUG_EAF322 on February 20, 2005, 06:04:27 AM: Very nice movie saved it
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Title: For the fans of the P47
Post by: Seeker on February 20, 2005, 07:35:12 AM: Wicked film Tiff ;.)

Strange to see Razor backs mixed up with the bubble canopies too.
Title: For the fans of the P47
Post by: RedDg on February 20, 2005, 09:00:12 AM: Love it. I seem to remember Hajo having this footage on tape when I met him. It's great to see war footage in color!
Title: For the fans of the P47
Post by: Halo on February 20, 2005, 09:23:13 AM: Thanks, Dan. Unusual to see WWII film in color and that well organized, including the sound of those big P&Ws and eight .50s.
Title: For the fans of the P47
Post by: DipStick on February 20, 2005, 10:11:06 AM: It was beautiful. Perk the wing riders!
Title: For the fans of the P47
Post by: Hajo on February 20, 2005, 03:51:24 PM: World War II in Color.

Tapes available at the History Channel
Title: For the fans of the P47
Post by: Raider179 on February 20, 2005, 04:13:52 PM: That film makes me want to go kill barracks and ords...LONG LIVE TOOLSHEDDERS!!!!
Title: For the fans of the P47
Post by: Westy on February 20, 2005, 06:53:37 PM: "97 out of 175 P-47 pilots killed on a single mission!"

They were primarily a ground attack group. They lost 97 men for the whole time they were there not on one mission.

Thanks Dan. That was very nice. Would like to find the source of the non-57th FG footage. I have the VHS tape of "Thunderbolt" and would love more quality color footage.
Title: For the fans of the P47
Post by: nopoop on February 20, 2005, 09:20:51 PM: Guppy I posted your link over on AGW.

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Thanks for the post, when I clicked it, I had no idea that it would be color footage of my Great Uncles squadron, the 362nd. He was KIA March 3rd 1945, second to the last of the 97 that died from that group. I've been to has grave in St. Avold. France. Cool stuff! Thanks!
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Title: For the fans of the P47
Post by: Morpheus on February 20, 2005, 11:06:44 PM: Dear god!!!

That was some of the best footage I've ever seen of jugs like that. Or any fighters from ww2 for that matter. Color, awsome sound, awsome views. Holly hell i need to take a cold shower.
Title: For the fans of the P47
Post by: mars01 on February 20, 2005, 11:47:21 PM: Zenos Warbirds - Awsome footage, $200 deal for everything rocks!!!
Title: For the fans of the P47
Post by: wombatt on February 21, 2005, 12:08:40 AM: Increadible footage THX:aok

Now I have an idea.
Maybe Mitsu or waffle could somehow put those sounds ion the P-47 sound dir.
The engine sound when diving was pure music.
Title: For the fans of the P47
Post by: Guppy35 on February 21, 2005, 12:28:13 AM: There was an hour show on the History Channel a while ago about the 362nd FG and all that color film shot around them. This stuff, except for the 57th FG film stuck in, was from that same documentary. I can't recall the name however. They pulled in a few surviving pilots to comment on it too and it was fun to see them then and now.

I taped it and then went down to Earl Miller's home to watch it with him. Earl was a ground attack pilot in Jugs with the 345th FS, 350th FG in the Med fighting up the boot of Italy. He had 186 combat missions.

It was interesting to watch him comment on the shooting as he felt they were shooting from way too far out. And a good way to get an old Jug flyer hand flying is to show him some Jugs in color :)

Dan/Slack
Title: For the fans of the P47
Post by: Guppy35 on February 21, 2005, 12:29:01 AM: Quote
Originally posted by nopoop
Guppy I posted your link over on AGW.

:aok

Very cool nopoop :)

Dan/Slack
Title: For the fans of the P47
Post by: Grits on February 21, 2005, 02:01:57 AM: Some of that footage like the cockpit and the D40 warming up on the ramp are modern footage "aged" to look like the real stuff. Those parts are from Jeff Ethell's show on the old "Wings and Water Wednesday" on Speedvision before it became Speed Channel.
Title: For the fans of the P47
Post by: Guppy35 on February 21, 2005, 02:04:19 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Grits
Some of that footage like the cockpit and the D40 warming up on the ramp are modern footage "aged" to look like the real stuff. Those parts are from Jeff Ethell's show on the old "Wings and Water Wednesday" on Speedvision before it became Speed Channel.

Yep, that's the former "Big A** Bird" that was repainted to be more politically correct.

Dan/Slack
Title: For the fans of the P47
Post by: Hajo on February 21, 2005, 07:41:48 AM: Redog was correct. I do have the tape from the Color of War Series. The Title is...

Thunderbolts: The Conquest of the Reich.

You can order this tape from History Channel.

It is very good!

You will see why they had such high casualties. In the Jabo mode, what they chiefly flew in 1944-45 straffing and bombing ammo dumps, Trains etc. The gun cam recorded huge explosions which some Jugs flew into after hitting their target....they never came out.

Have the Original HUN HUNTER on another Jug tape....they flew fighter Bombers in Italy 44-45.
Title: For the fans of the P47
Post by: Westy on February 21, 2005, 07:42:19 AM: "Thunderbolts: The Conquest of the Reich"

Thanks guys!!
Title: For the fans of the P47
Post by: Kaz on February 21, 2005, 05:04:11 PM: Great footage Guppy, best I've seen also. Thank you!
Title: For the fans of the P47
Post by: Guppy35 on February 21, 2005, 10:52:18 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Hajo
Redog was correct. I do have the tape from the Color of War Series. The Title is...

Thunderbolts: The Conquest of the Reich.

You can order this tape from History Channel.

It is very good!

You will see why they had such high casualties. In the Jabo mode, what they chiefly flew in 1944-45 straffing and bombing ammo dumps, Trains etc. The gun cam recorded huge explosions which some Jugs flew into after hitting their target....they never came out.

Have the Original HUN HUNTER on another Jug tape....they flew fighter Bombers in Italy 44-45.

Yep, Hun Hunter and the other birds of the 57th FG turned up in a documentary done in color during the war called "Thunderbolt" if memory serves. I've got it around here somewhere

Dan/Slack
Title: For the fans of the P47
Post by: oboe on February 22, 2005, 06:52:13 AM: Very cool find, thank you Guppy!

We have a P-47D11 ingame from this group; was hoping to see a glimpse of "Carol Ann" somewhere but I didn't catch her. Saw some similiar color schemes, though I was surprised at the diversity of paint jobs within a single group.
Title: For the fans of the P47
Post by: pellik on February 22, 2005, 02:56:20 PM: We need pretty explosions like this in AH. And whatever happened to the trains? They used to be fun to fight. Furthermore, man I wish buildings would die from a quick burst like in the film.

-pellik
Title: For the fans of the P47
Post by: mars01 on February 22, 2005, 03:42:34 PM: Just in case :D. I wasnt saying this footage was from Zeno's. Was saying Zeno's has some awsome 47 footage and other cool stuff as well.

Carry on...:D
Title: For the fans of the P47
Post by: Fruda on February 22, 2005, 05:13:30 PM: Quote
Originally posted by wombatt
Increadible footage THX:aok

Now I have an idea.
Maybe Mitsu or waffle could somehow put those sounds ion the P-47 sound dir.
The engine sound when diving was pure music.

If you want some real P-47 sounds, download my P-47 pack. It's got a real Pratt & Whitney sample (full engine cycle loop, along with full engine start cycle and shutdown cycle), along with actual sound samples taken from M2 .50 Caliber machine guns (though AH's sound design limits the gunsounds significantly). http://www.sitesled.com/members/fruda (I will have the pack up in a few days, so don't worry about its absence)

Oh, and... Very nice film. I've not quite seen anything like it!
Title: For the fans of the P47
Post by: SELECTOR on February 22, 2005, 05:42:32 PM: what i did like was hunhunter near the end... skin available in ah2 now
Title: For the fans of the P47
Post by: Fruda on February 22, 2005, 06:37:31 PM: Yeah, I noticed that, too.

I really loved the way that film was produced. It was brilliant.
Title: For the fans of the P47
Post by: FuBaR on February 23, 2005, 12:22:18 AM: 2 questions... 1st what did p47s usualy meet in air battles? 2nd are these sounds from the footage as well?