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Title: P-38J Pilot wounds
Post by: daddog on February 22, 2005, 03:03:00 PM
More than usual for anyone else?

Might just be my luck, but darn near ever other flight I have been getting a pilot wound. Figured it is just my luck since I have not seen anyone else post about it.
Title: P-38J Pilot wounds
Post by: crims on February 22, 2005, 04:09:30 PM
Yup  for me it seams like a Good ride when I don't get A Pilot wound:mad:




Crims
479th Raiders
Title: P-38J Pilot wounds
Post by: daddog on February 22, 2005, 08:09:50 PM
So do you think you are getting a lot more pilot wounds than usual in the J?
Title: P-38J Pilot wounds
Post by: 38ruk on February 22, 2005, 08:50:56 PM
i know i am , seems like every other flight , just thought it was me .... 38
Title: P-38J Pilot wounds
Post by: Seraphim on February 22, 2005, 09:37:41 PM
More than usual in any 38.
its why I stopped flying them
Title: P-38J Pilot wounds
Post by: Guppy35 on February 22, 2005, 09:54:59 PM
Haven't noticed it in the G which is all I fly.  I seem to lose my left engine all the time though.  Could be from all the bullets into it :)

Dan/Slack
Title: P-38J Pilot wounds
Post by: Kegger26 on February 22, 2005, 10:03:50 PM
It is funny to see this post. I flew the PJ the other night for the first time and out of ten missions that night into tank town, I came away with seven pilot wounds. I just figured it was me, since I was down low pumping 20mms into every bit of soft armor I could find. That being said I never did lose a bird. Even when peices of my plane were falling off, she still got me home.

-Keg.
Title: P-38J Pilot wounds
Post by: Morpheus on February 22, 2005, 10:13:10 PM
Why perk em when you can pork em?
Title: P-38J Pilot wounds
Post by: sullie363 on February 22, 2005, 11:03:28 PM
I fly the J a lot and haven't noticed an abnormally high pilot wound rate.
Title: P-38J Pilot wounds
Post by: Pyro on February 23, 2005, 09:49:59 AM
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Originally posted by Morpheus
Why perk em when you can pork em?


Excuse me?
Title: P-38J Pilot wounds
Post by: Cooley on February 23, 2005, 01:28:45 PM
Im getting alot of pilot wounds also in the 38j,
much more often then in other aircraft
Title: P-38J Pilot wounds
Post by: pellik on February 23, 2005, 04:59:07 PM
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Originally posted by Cooley
Im getting alot of pilot wounds also in the 38j,
much more often then in other aircraft


It's a big plane with a big cockpit. I don't find it any worse for pilot wounds then the 38-L or a 47. Flying these large planes requires you to make an effort to not expose the vital parts when someone gets a shot. If you keep your engine and canopy safe and don't get hit in the tail you can absorb all kinds of damage accross the wings and fuselage.

-pellik
Title: P-38J Pilot wounds
Post by: MOSQ on February 23, 2005, 06:01:06 PM
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Originally posted by Cooley
Im getting alot of pilot wounds also in the 38j,
much more often then in other aircraft


Then you haven't flown the Ki-84 or the Mossie !
Title: P-38J Pilot wounds
Post by: Pirate BK on February 23, 2005, 06:02:42 PM
I just started flying again, though my account has always stayed active. I too notice the pilot wounds seem much more frequent in the 38. Seems every other up in a 38 I take hits I am wounded. Still I am enjoying the 38. I just figured it was my lack of skill as when I am not wounded I tend to end up with my face in the dirt.

pi
Title: P-38J Pilot wounds
Post by: crims on February 23, 2005, 07:41:40 PM
I just Noticed more Pilot wounds then Before, From Every angle.
Since I do like flying the 38J i just thought since the Pilot sits above the plane that would be it. So I started flying other rides and still the same thing. Now I figure it my connection
:D  


Crims
479th Raiders
Title: P-38J Pilot wounds
Post by: 38ruk on February 23, 2005, 10:36:26 PM
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It's a big plane with a big cockpit. I don't find it any worse for pilot wounds then the 38-L or a 47


I wouldnt make issue if this has been the way that the 38's have been since the begining , flown the 38 for years and havent noticed this issue , something has changed..............38
Title: P-38J Pilot wounds
Post by: Morpheus on February 23, 2005, 10:54:14 PM
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Originally posted by Pyro
Excuse me?


Bah sorry Pyro. Maybe shouldnt have said that.

But they are right. Its like the Pilot in the 38 has got a magnet on his skull.

Just the other day KillnU and I were in a low alt fight near, but not over a base.  We were maybe 5-6k high at the most... Over the water maybe 10k away from the base... There were quite a few others flying near or around us... We were the only 38's in the area.

As usual the puffy ack was blasting like mad... I finnaly looked around and noticed that it was only on me and him. Out of the dozen or so other friendlies flying around it was on me and him alone. I asked him if he noticed the same thing I was seeing and before he could anwser me he was gone... Back to the tower he went.... Instant pilot death. Not more than a minute after that... BANG! I was in the tower along with him... 88mm

Now... I forgot to mention that Furball was in a Nik flying in and out of the ack chasing cons that were running back to the field. He landed, with no damage, 10 minutes later.

This is just one of MANY instances I can think of right off the bat... Of me and others flying 38's around me getting pilot wounds/kills mush easier than any other fighter.

There is nothing MORE anoying to be fighting alone, in a good 1v1 out away from an nme field and get smacked by this AI ack.

And its not just the AI ack either. Many times I'll go up and get a ping or two forcing an over shot and end up with a pilot wound. In any other plane I can think of other than a 38 I'll loose parts or take a good amount of hits long before I'll take hits to the pilot and get wounded.

Coincidence?
Title: P-38J Pilot wounds
Post by: Glasses on February 23, 2005, 10:57:28 PM
Deflector Shields off!
Title: P-38J Pilot wounds
Post by: BUG_EAF322 on February 23, 2005, 11:41:23 PM
I always find mustang fire to be easily giving the pilot wound.

That counts for bombers too.
Title: P-38J Pilot wounds
Post by: wetrat on February 24, 2005, 02:48:16 AM
I haven't really noticed an extraordinary amount of pilot wounds in 38's... I get them all the time when I fly them, but when I get hit in a 38, I REALLY get hit ;) One thing I have noticed when fighting 38's is that if I have any sort of deflection shot on the wide part of the plane, it's almost 100% pilot pop insta death. Maybe it's just that the area in which hits count against the pilot is bigger in the new 38's?
Title: P-38J Pilot wounds
Post by: WilldCrd on February 24, 2005, 06:13:18 AM
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I flew the PJ the other night for the first time and out of ten missions that night into tank town,



What is the all alluring draw for pilots to hump it over them mountains to pick on the Gv'ers?
especially 10 times in one night ! You do know them GV's dont fly right?:D
Title: P-38J Pilot wounds
Post by: Kegger26 on February 24, 2005, 06:55:23 AM
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Originally posted by WilldCrd
What is the all alluring draw for pilots to hump it over them mountains to pick on the Gv'ers?
especially 10 times in one night ! You do know them GV's dont fly right?:D


 Yeah I know. But I dont always go after the tankers. Most of the time I up a fuel heavy P-51 and go jabo hunting. It all depends on the mood I am in. Most night me and squadies do nothing but fly CAP in the tank town to stop jabos.
 That night none of my squadies were on, and I have never flown the P-38G/P-38J before. So I upped the PJ to go hunt tanks, this was sparked becuase when I spawned a tank into there I was cut down by a spawn camper. So I upped a jabo to put a stop to that. I also fly spotter for friendly
 If a tanker gets pissed at me they up an M16 or FLAK and start hammering me. This happens some times. So it is not like they are helpless down there. Besides busting tanks is good eats.


-Keg
Title: P-38J Pilot wounds
Post by: daddog on February 24, 2005, 01:41:53 PM
Pyro, can you guys sort pilot wounds on AC? Could it be just because the P-38 has a larger cockpit than other AC?  

It really does seem to give me a lot more pilot wounds than anything else I fly.  I will start keeping track if you want.
Title: P-38J Pilot wounds
Post by: daddog on February 25, 2005, 06:01:38 PM
Title: P-38J Pilot wounds
Post by: DamnedRen on February 25, 2005, 06:26:22 PM
I belive the cockpit of the P-38 was made to accomodate larger, plus sized pilots. Later in the war and when the 38's went into design phase then Army Air Force realized all of their short stumpy pilots were be lost due to attrition. Drunk and disorderly and such. So they decided it would be prudent to make a cockpit large enough to handle larger folks (6 ft +, 200 lbs + types). The second engine was added to the design at that point so the plus sized guys could have enough power to mantain a slight edge in a fight. This is a good thing.

Unfortunately, it wasn't discovered until later in the war, these larger fellows also made larger targets for stray bullets sprayed into their general direction.

I, for one, refused the opportunity to fly the P-38 and instead opted for the P-47. This plane also could support my frame but had more armor. This allowed me to complete my tour of duty.

I believe AH2 has successfully modeled the orignal design concept of the P-38's in all its varieties.

Ren
:rofl