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Title: Sullie's Official Request 1: Fairey Firefly
Post by: sullie363 on February 23, 2005, 05:13:59 PM
This is my proposal for the British Firefly.  I also say "Request 1" with the assumption I'll probably come up with at least one other thing to suggest later on.

The Firefly was designed as a fleet reconnaissance aircraft for the UK's Royal Navy, and was derived from the Fairey Fulmar. First flown on 22 December 1941, the first versions were delivered in March 1943 to RNAS Yeovilton. The main version of the aircraft used during WWII was the Mk.1, which was used in all theaters of operation. Throughout its operational career, it took on increasingly more demanding roles, from fighter to anti-submarine warfare.  Based on the aircraft carrier Indefatigable, it took part in the raid on the Tirpitz in September, 1944. It also took part in the Pacific and in January 1945, destroyed the Sumatra oil refineries. The Fairey Firefly Mk. I remained in service with the Royal Air Force until 1946.

Engine: One 2,250-hp Rolls-Royce Griffon 74 V-12 piston engine
        Weight: Empty 9,674 lbs., Max Takeoff 16,096 lbs.
        Wing Span: 41ft. 2in.
        Length: 37ft. 11in.
        Height: 14ft. 4in.
        Performance:
            Maximum Speed: 386 mph
            Cruising Speed: 220 mph
            Ceiling: 28,400 ft.
            Range: 1,300 miles
        Armament:
            Four 20-mm cannon in wings
            Underwing hardpoints for 16 60-pound rockets or two 1,000-pound bombs

Number Built: 1533

It is often said that we don't have enough carrier based planes.  People don't generally think about this aircraft and that's why I suggested it.  It may not be that pretty, but it would appear to be a good ground pounder.  Just by looking at it, I would have to guess it would fly like a Typhoon, as well as being armed like one.  Adding the Firefly would also double the amount of British carrier planes in the game.  This also gives the perk point poor player a heavily armed plane, in regards to cannons, to up off a cv.  The planes larger size and lesser manuverability wouldn't require it to be perked figuring a F4UC would be able to defeat it without much trouble.  

All I ask is that it be considered.  Obviously even if you decided to add it, it wouldn't be available for many many months.  Just something to think about.

(http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/2WWfirefly.JPG)

(http://www.navynews.co.uk/aircraft/aircraft_images/firefly/fireflyax.jpg)
Edit: Changed out photo, thanks Guppy.
Title: Sullie's Official Request 1: Fairey Firefly
Post by: Guppy35 on February 23, 2005, 05:59:53 PM
You are talking the big mouth intake version though, not the much nicer looking postwar Firefly.

(http://photos.airliners.net/aa309cfbeaa6363d2120c32799baa25d/421d1886/middle/8/8/6/574688.jpg)

Dan/Slack
Title: Sullie's Official Request 1: Fairey Firefly
Post by: Kev367th on February 23, 2005, 06:00:54 PM
A small change in Hurricanes could give us CV based Hurris.
Title: Sullie's Official Request 1: Fairey Firefly
Post by: frank3 on February 24, 2005, 11:00:22 AM
Some more pictures

(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/68_1109264179_2004[1].jpg)
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/68_1109264229_firefly.jpg)
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/68_1109264278_firefly[1].jpg)
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/68_1109264335_sq8125[1].jpg)
Title: Sullie's Official Request 1: Fairey Firefly
Post by: Furball on February 24, 2005, 12:48:39 PM
16 rockets and 4 x hispano.....

omg vulcher heaven.

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System:Furball landed one billlllyion kills in Firefly Mk I
Title: sea hurricanes
Post by: rogerdee on February 24, 2005, 01:02:56 PM
add some more weight  and  a working hook  and the hurricane 1  and  11c  can be added  to cvs we already got the skins  for them

rogerdee
Title: Sullie's Official Request 1: Fairey Firefly
Post by: frank3 on February 24, 2005, 01:32:53 PM
But...what use do we have for a reconnaisance plane? I mean...what's there to spot?
Title: Sullie's Official Request 1: Fairey Firefly
Post by: Furball on February 24, 2005, 01:43:21 PM
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Originally posted by frank3
I mean...what's there to spot?


Vulching!!!!!!!!

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System:Furball landed one billlllyion kills in Firefly Mk I
Title: Sullie's Official Request 1: Fairey Firefly
Post by: sullie363 on February 24, 2005, 02:33:47 PM
It wouldn't be for recon.  It just happens to be a recon plane which can carry lots of bombs and rockets and be launched from a CV.  Just think of it as a carrier based Typhoon.  It was often used by the British as a fighter or attack plane anyway.
Title: Sullie's Official Request 1: Fairey Firefly
Post by: sullie363 on February 28, 2005, 07:26:14 PM
Just tossing in some more pictures.

(http://www.fleetairarmarchive.net/Aircraft/firefly_preserved_IWM_duxford.jpg)

(http://www.unrealaircraft.com/fowler/images/firefly_trainer.jpg)

(https://www.royal-navy.mod.uk/data/[(1714)-13-01-2003]fury.jpg)
Title: Sullie's Official Request 1: Fairey Firefly
Post by: Karnak on February 28, 2005, 11:40:12 PM
Hmmm, CV plane with four Hispanos.  Where have I heard of that before?  Let me think....

Nah, there weren't any problems with that.


The Firefly Mk I would be interesting, though the Mk I is hideous compared to the later Fireflies with the radiators in the wing roots.

It would be interesting, but I think HTC would have to approach it with some caution.
Title: Sullie's Official Request 1: Fairey Firefly
Post by: RTSigma on March 01, 2005, 12:47:36 AM
That canopy in the back...is there where the gunner sits up and fires the rockets?
Title: Sullie's Official Request 1: Fairey Firefly
Post by: frank3 on March 01, 2005, 06:32:20 AM
Some more pictures:

(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/68_1109680123_fairey20firefly[1].jpg)
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/68_1109680148_fairey_firefly_trainer_mk1[1].jpg)
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/68_1109680214_firefly_infl[1].jpg)
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/68_1109680260_firefly2[2].jpg)
Title: Sullie's Official Request 1: Fairey Firefly
Post by: sullie363 on March 01, 2005, 12:50:20 PM
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Originally posted by RTSigma
That canopy in the back...is there where the gunner sits up and fires the rockets?


I think that plane is a trainer.