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Title: Surround sound 7.1 and AHII
Post by: Steve on February 25, 2005, 11:12:49 PM
Does AHII support surround sound?  anyone?

Thank you for your constructive input.
Title: Surround sound 7.1 and AHII
Post by: Fruda on February 25, 2005, 11:30:58 PM
Not how you think it might. It uses Direct Sound 3D, which really isn't even 3D.

I suspect that this aspect of the game will be updated, but it definately won't be on HTC's top priority list.
Title: Surround sound 7.1 and AHII
Post by: jodgi on February 26, 2005, 01:25:20 AM
What do you mean Fruda? How is it "not really" 3D?
Title: Surround sound 7.1 and AHII
Post by: hitech on February 26, 2005, 09:33:32 AM
It is 3d, And if DIrextX suports it , so do we.

HiTech
Title: Surround sound 7.1 and AHII
Post by: indy007 on February 26, 2005, 10:08:14 AM
I've got an audigy 2 gamer, creative lab's 5.1 surround, & the creative sound station that holds the rear speakers behind my head. it's great for GV's. you can zero in on sounds very, very quickly. my only problem with it (again, in GV's) is with snap view looking around, because it's instant, the sound follows instantly. so instead of a nice fade from speaker to speaker it's literally on & off.
Title: Surround sound 7.1 and AHII
Post by: Stone on February 26, 2005, 11:03:15 AM
I have "5.1" head phones and I can hear if a plane is behind or in front of me to the left or to the right.

Thats prety 3D to me :)
Title: Surround sound 7.1 and AHII
Post by: Mister Fork on February 26, 2005, 12:04:53 PM
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Originally posted by hitech
It is 3d, And if DIrextX suports it , so do we.

HiTech
What is HiTech doing working on a Saturday? Take a day off HT! :D
Title: Surround sound 7.1 and AHII
Post by: Jackal1 on February 26, 2005, 12:41:41 PM
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Originally posted by Mister Fork
What is HiTech doing working on a Saturday? Take a day off HT! :D


 Well someone had to go in and plug the stuff back in that Skuzz tripped over last night. :D
Title: Surround sound 7.1 and AHII
Post by: Steve on February 26, 2005, 01:47:51 PM
Indy, I have an audigy gamer2 ZS and 7.1 and a creative 7.1 surround.  Looking forward to trying it out.  Which brings me to:  I have an extra Audigy Gamer card... anyone need it?
Title: Surround sound 7.1 and AHII
Post by: Steve on February 26, 2005, 01:48:31 PM
HT does direct X support 7.1 surround sound?
Title: Surround sound 7.1 and AHII
Post by: DamnedRen on February 26, 2005, 02:03:29 PM
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Originally posted by Stone
I have "5.1" head phones and I can hear if a plane is behind or in front of me to the left or to the right.

Thats prety 3D to me :)


Huh? :D  5.1 headphones? Never heard of em. Seems you'd need ears in back of head and one in forhead to make it happen
Must be a stange lookng headset.
:rofl
Title: Surround sound 7.1 and AHII
Post by: Skuzzy on February 26, 2005, 03:18:05 PM
Steve the question about Dolby surround sound does not apply.   Dolby surround sound requires information embedded in the audio stream to position the sound.
In the DirectSound 3D API, the positioning is done before the sound is played, placing it exactly where it should be emanating from and at the proper volume.

If your speaker setup in your sound control panel can be set to a 7.1 speaker configuration, DirectSound will get the sounds to the right places.  No encoding or decoding is required.
Title: Surround sound 7.1 and AHII
Post by: RedDg on February 26, 2005, 03:24:41 PM
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Originally posted by Steve
Indy, I have an audigy gamer2 ZS and 7.1 and a creative 7.1 surround.  Looking forward to trying it out.  Which brings me to:  I have an extra Audigy Gamer card... anyone need it?


I might be intersted.  How much you asking ?
Title: 3D headphones?
Post by: g00b on February 26, 2005, 04:07:04 PM
Which 3D headphones are you using and what are your impressions?

g00b
Title: Surround sound 7.1 and AHII
Post by: Steve on February 26, 2005, 04:43:23 PM
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I might be intersted. How much you asking ?



Well I wasn't thinking about money.... just someone who might be in need.
Title: Surround sound 7.1 and AHII
Post by: Steve on February 26, 2005, 04:45:43 PM
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If your speaker setup in your sound control panel can be set to a 7.1 speaker configuration, DirectSound will get the sounds to the right places. No encoding or decoding is required.


XP seemed to pick up the change  in my sound system automatically.   I went to control panel to make the changes and the 7.1 surround was already selected as opposed to the original desk top speaker option.

Skuzzy, you think I'm set then?



Thanks everyone for  your help.
Title: Surround sound 7.1 and AHII
Post by: Fruda on February 26, 2005, 05:22:02 PM
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Originally posted by jodgi
What do you mean Fruda? How is it "not really" 3D?



Bah, I was thinking of EAX reverb. Yeah Direct Sound 3D is 3D, but it's nowhere close to EAX.
Title: Surround sound 7.1 and AHII
Post by: kbman on February 26, 2005, 06:51:25 PM
Howdy steve,
                       I wouldn't say I needed it as I am using my AC'97 onboard sound but I wouldn't mind trying an actual souncard in my system as everyone says that onboard sound sux unless you have an Nvidia chipset. I am certainly interested  
but if someone else really needs it I'm fine with what I have.

kbman
Title: Surround sound 7.1 and AHII
Post by: Jackal1 on February 26, 2005, 08:39:35 PM
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Originally posted by Fruda
Bah, I was thinking of EAX reverb. Yeah Direct Sound 3D is 3D, but it's nowhere close to EAX.


You sure it doesn`t alter your gameplay. roflmao :rofl
Title: Surround sound 7.1 and AHII
Post by: Steve on February 26, 2005, 09:22:59 PM
KB, how about this: Unless someone expresses a real need, we'll judge together, it's yours.  Can you pick up the shipping?
Title: Surround sound 7.1 and AHII
Post by: kbman on February 26, 2005, 09:39:54 PM
Howdy Steve,
                       Sounds fair to me. Let it ride a bit and see what comes. I'm consistantly amazed at the generousity of people on this board. One of the more positive attributes of this community. Thanks again and we can exchange info at any point that seems appropriate. I have PayPal so that should make it pretty painless. Cya up!

kbman
Title: Surround sound 7.1 and AHII
Post by: RedDg on February 26, 2005, 11:43:27 PM
Reading through again, I'll pass.  No one should have to play ANY game with AC 97 onboard sound.

Good of you to offer Steve.
Title: Surround sound 7.1 and AHII
Post by: Kermit de frog on February 27, 2005, 01:09:02 AM
Dolby offers 7.1 surround sound.  Does DTS offer the same?

Also, I thought Aces High did use EAX.  If not, then what is the difference between EAX and DIRECT 3D?



I got a 5.1 going right now.  I hear everything fine.  For those that have the instant snap view systems enabled, try pressing F7 while in flight and that will have a gradual pan view instead.
Title: Surround sound 7.1 and AHII
Post by: Waffle on February 27, 2005, 01:24:00 AM
Eax just adds "ambience" and crap to sound. Least all that I've heard. I don't use it... you end up getting vox transmisisions that sound like you;re in a concert hall...lol Maybe it's changed or "devoloped" since the last i heard it.

The AH system takes a mono source and posistions its sound source as to where the sound is coming from. Hence, when in the tower, and a plane flys by - you hear the sound emiiting from the planes location in time.
Title: Surround sound 7.1 and AHII
Post by: Steve on February 27, 2005, 01:35:45 AM
Classy move on your part, red.
Title: and yet another one !!
Post by: heatedpitot on February 27, 2005, 08:34:07 AM
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Originally posted by Steve
Indy, I have an audigy gamer2 ZS and 7.1 and a creative 7.1 surround.  Looking forward to trying it out.  Which brings me to:  I have an extra Audigy Gamer card... anyone need it?


I also have an unused Sound Blaster Live! 5.1 with the original installation CD,  if any one else is in dire need of a sound card as opposed to using their onboard sound.  All that is required is to pickup the shipping.

SS10
Title: Surround sound 7.1 and AHII
Post by: kbman on March 06, 2005, 11:44:33 AM
Yo Steve!
                Tawk ta me. Wassup!

On another note, I have been reading up on the Audigy Gamer and it seems there are issues with VIA chipsets for some at least. I have a Gigabyte GA7 VAX with KT400a chipset. Anyone with any experiences to relate? I already got the latest drivers from Creative and I'm aware that I should only load the drivers and not  any other part of their suite. Anything else I should be aware of?

kbman
Title: Surround sound 7.1 and AHII
Post by: StarOfAfrica2 on March 06, 2005, 12:26:55 PM
Good luck.  You'll likely need it.
Title: Surround sound 7.1 and AHII
Post by: Dipper on March 06, 2005, 03:13:55 PM
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Originally posted by DamnedRen
Huh? :D  5.1 headphones? Never heard of em. Seems you'd need ears in back of head and one in forhead to make it happen
Must be a stange lookng headset.
:rofl



There are severall models on the market.

I have Zalman 5.1 headphones.

Here is the first page mr. Google found :
http://www.3dvelocity.com/reviews/zalman_hp/zalmanphones_1.htm
Title: Surround sound 7.1 and AHII
Post by: Steve on March 06, 2005, 07:54:04 PM
KB, FWIW  i neverr had any trouble w/ this card.  Email me your addy and I'll ship it this week



Steve



stevenbailey@cox.net
Title: Surround sound 7.1 and AHII
Post by: FuBaR on March 06, 2005, 09:05:51 PM
I use 5.1 surround for AH , I had the trouble of sounds not being equal.....ex. sound from forward fire was very low,then sound from rear was good. It seems to have been fixed.
Title: Surround sound 7.1 and AHII
Post by: kbman on March 06, 2005, 10:53:11 PM
sent Thanks.

kbman