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Title: Gt4
Post by: FUNKED1 on February 26, 2005, 05:11:28 PM: Even after all the hype I am still impressed. The 'Ring, Laguna Seca, Sears Point, those alone make it worth the price. Here's some shots of my garage so far.

HIGHWAY STAR
(http://home.earthlink.net/~westcoastminicon/CHARGER.jpg)

Dinger will remember this one.
(http://home.earthlink.net/~westcoastminicon/CIVIC.jpg)
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Post by: Octavius on February 26, 2005, 05:13:57 PM: Is this a console only? I enjoyed GT3 ton when it first came out, and you car tards are hootin and hollerin over 4 :)
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Post by: Siaf__csf on February 26, 2005, 05:19:59 PM: The graphics are amazing. Too bad it lacks the realism that would make this game an absolute winner. No damage modeling, arcade physics etc. I'm really tempted to get it but it's questionable if I'd ever bother to actually play it.
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Post by: FUNKED1 on February 26, 2005, 05:22:12 PM: Actually the physics are very good in 4 if you turn off all the driving aids.
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Post by: Siaf__csf on February 26, 2005, 05:28:30 PM: I saw a game review that complained about the physics. They compared GT4 to the new MS racer which name I can't recall now.

If a demo gets out I must try it.
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Post by: moose on February 26, 2005, 06:08:42 PM: well they went the route of modelling 700 something cars instead of damage models, which is fine for me.

i'll say right now that my car in game handles (and more importantly) brakes very similar to my actual rx7..
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Post by: Urchin on February 26, 2005, 06:26:06 PM: I love it so far...

I bought an old used Acura NSX.. I love that car.

Bought an 86 RX7, I hate that car, it sucks.

Bought a 2005 Mustang GT, it is nice but not as good as the NSX is...

Won a Chevelle, dropped an assload of money into it and it still sucks... that pisses me off. It is faster than hell, but it can't turn at all. Not even a little bit.
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Post by: GtoRA2 on February 26, 2005, 06:42:55 PM: Funked,
Were did you manage to buy it from?
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Post by: Saurdaukar on February 26, 2005, 07:35:14 PM: Idiot that I am... I bought a PS2 solely for the purpose of playing this game... :rolleyes:

Need that CSL...
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Post by: Nash on February 26, 2005, 08:24:14 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Saurdaukar
Idiot that I am... I bought a PS2 solely for the purpose of playing this game... :rolleyes:

Need that CSL...

This isn't coming out for the PC?
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Post by: Monk on February 27, 2005, 03:23:55 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Nash
This isn't coming out for the PC?
No. PS 2 only. Have to wait until 9 March, then I can knock out some dry training on the ring. Guardrails there can be expensive.

Yep, beer and brats at the ring http://members.home.nl/schillings/AF.wmv
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Post by: FUNKED1 on February 27, 2005, 05:17:10 AM: GTO I pre-ordered it from gogamer.com. But I'm hearing lots of people having success just going to stores and finding it. They had confidence enough to ship a crapload of them.

Also regarding realism, remember I am using the Driving Force Pro wheel. If you are using a gamepad or a lesser wheel, the game has to dumb down the steering to make it playable. With the DFP and all the driving aids turned off, the cars handle much as one would expect.
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Post by: FUNKED1 on February 27, 2005, 05:19:10 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Nash
This isn't coming out for the PC?

No. Sony does this to make sure you buy a PS2. I know a lot of people (self included) who bought a PS2 just to play the GT series.
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Post by: GtoRA2 on February 27, 2005, 05:25:41 AM: I bought a PS2 for GT3 lol.

It is now in WA, so I will be buying another for this game lol.

I loved 2, the 60s cars were a blast.

this looks even better.

Funked, How do your steering wheel work? DOes it clamp to a table or can you use it from a chair or bean bag?
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Post by: Swoop on February 27, 2005, 05:27:02 AM: Yup, me 2.

GT was awesome. GT2 was even better. GT3.....was kinda a let down.

GT4....ain't out in Britain until the 7th of March. :(

(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/209_1081438631_swoop.gif)
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Post by: GtoRA2 on February 27, 2005, 05:29:19 AM: yeah GT3 was a bit of a let down. Loaded it up and was like

this is a jip! were did the 69 Camaro go!!

I gues I will go check frys in the morning, lol the paint ball gun can wait tell next month hehe
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Post by: FUNKED1 on February 27, 2005, 05:30:58 AM: Quote
Originally posted by GtoRA2
Funked, How do your steering wheel work? DOes it clamp to a table or can you use it from a chair or bean bag?

Just clamp it to a sturdy table. If the edges of the table aren't the right shape/size you can just use some c-clamps and plywood or 2x4 scraps to rig it up. The main thing is to have a sturdy enough table and enough clearance under it for your knees so you can use the pedals.

Also the DFP is fully PC compatible, works great.
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Post by: GtoRA2 on February 27, 2005, 05:35:04 AM: I wonder if I can hook a PS2 to my Viewsonic VP201?

Then I could use my desk lol.
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Post by: Monk on February 27, 2005, 06:22:03 AM: How does the finished game compare to the Prologe version?
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Post by: FUNKED1 on February 27, 2005, 06:28:00 AM: Quote
Originally posted by GtoRA2
I wonder if I can hook a PS2 to my Viewsonic VP201?

Then I could use my desk lol.

Just put a TV capture card in your computer.
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Post by: Saurdaukar on February 27, 2005, 10:05:30 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Monk

Yep, beer and brats at the ring http://members.home.nl/schillings/AF.wmv

DO you have any more of these? :D
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Post by: lazs2 on February 27, 2005, 10:12:53 AM: urchin... you got cheated. It is easy to make a Chevelle do skid pad numbers like a stock corvette.

lazs
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Post by: Siaf__csf on February 27, 2005, 10:27:30 AM: Hmm.. it's only available for PS2? That does it for me.. I can stop drooling after it. :)
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Post by: Urchin on February 27, 2005, 11:30:46 AM: Quote
Originally posted by lazs2
urchin... you got cheated. It is easy to make a Chevelle do skid pad numbers like a stock corvette.

lazs

I think my biggest problem is I don't know a lot about cars, so I just went and upgraded the horsepower by dropping in bigger exhaust and other HP options... you can buy stuff like a new suspension that you can set up yourself.. but I wouldn't know where to start with that kind of thing.

I'll play around with it some once I get some more races won and some more money to drop into that beast lol.

It is a badass looking car though, my favorite one to look at that I have in the virtual garage.
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Post by: moot on February 27, 2005, 12:34:27 PM: Setups are everything in some cars.

What I really miss is the HP/TQ-gear ratios overlay. It was so easy to match the two/three together to spank "faster" cars with that. Repeatedly beat friends' LM cars with rally cars or "homemade" [R] cars..

Shame they always took out features without replacing or adding alternatives like that..
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Post by: GtoRA2 on February 27, 2005, 06:38:49 PM: bah!
I am cursed, found the game but no one has PS2s!

lol

Some frys guy said the factory got taken out in the tidal wave!
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Post by: texace on February 27, 2005, 07:37:16 PM: My brother and I are really into this game. We're both the tuner types and were always tweaking stuff. He's driving a Dodge SRT-4, while I can be found driving the DeLorean DMC12. If I could get a flash drive to work I'd post some pics but we can't get anything to work right. :(
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Post by: Urchin on February 27, 2005, 09:23:39 PM: Well, if anyone wants to give me any tips on tuning that Chevelle I'd appreciate it :)
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Post by: CavemanJ on February 28, 2005, 09:27:42 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Urchin
Well, if anyone wants to give me any tips on tuning that Chevelle I'd appreciate it :)

this might help ya a little... was posted for GT2/3, but the theories still apply.

linkage (http://granturismox.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=78)

I'm sure they'll start getting GT4 setup info in there soon enough (though it'll prolly start in the GT4 gen discussion forum first).
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Post by: Krusher on February 28, 2005, 09:33:12 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Urchin

Won a Chevelle, dropped an assload of money into it and it still sucks... that pisses me off. It is faster than hell, but it can't turn at all. Not even a little bit.

It sounds like my old 71 Chevelle.

"It looked great going straight "
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Post by: Monk on February 28, 2005, 10:41:59 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Saurdaukar
DO you have any more of these? :D

a great info page, with some good links. It's tough to find good vids nowadays, the Nürburgring have cracked down on onboard video taking.

http://www.nurburgring.org.uk/

here are some good vids, for yourself a CSL , and rear engined cars.;) Funked may be interested in some of the Scooby vids.

http://www.northloop.co.uk/

and some more

http://www.ring-world.nl/

http://www.nurburgring-videos.com/
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Post by: nuchpatrick on February 28, 2005, 12:09:17 PM: I tell ya.. I love the new GT4..

I'm happy to see Mistu Galant VR-4.. man whata fun car to run! 1964 Ginetta G4 is a blast to drive..And that wild Caddy Cien geeebuss... whata ild car that is to drive.
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Post by: Siaf__csf on February 28, 2005, 12:37:05 PM: I've never owned a gaming console in my life and never will.

You know, regular PS2 games cost $92 a piece down here.
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Post by: nuchpatrick on February 28, 2005, 01:31:56 PM: Urchin,

I suppose your referring to understeer in int your Chevell. So give it a bit more camber in the front like around 2.5 ish and around 1.2 in the rear. Give it a bit more rear sway bar 2 more settings up from what is listed and go one click down on the front.. Stiffen the rear shocks 2 settings up as well.

This should give the car more of a tighter rear end. I prefer a little oversteer as opposed to understeer. Keep adjusting the swaybar and shocks till you get a little oversteer. I hope that helps.
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Post by: Siaf__csf on February 28, 2005, 02:05:24 PM: I like a tight rear end, good response and pleasant shocks on ladies.
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Post by: FUNKED1 on March 01, 2005, 03:33:42 AM: Quote
Originally posted by nuchpatrick
Urchin,

I suppose your referring to understeer in int your Chevell. So give it a bit more camber in the front like around 2.5 ish and around 1.2 in the rear. Give it a bit more rear sway bar 2 more settings up from what is listed and go one click down on the front.. Stiffen the rear shocks 2 settings up as well.

This should give the car more of a tighter rear end. I prefer a little oversteer as opposed to understeer. Keep adjusting the swaybar and shocks till you get a little oversteer. I hope that helps.

Also Google for GT4 setups and see if somebody else has figured out a setup for that car.
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Post by: FUNKED1 on March 01, 2005, 03:37:16 AM: Quote
Originally posted by nuchpatrick
I tell ya.. I love the new GT4..

I'm happy to see Mistu Galant VR-4.. man whata fun car to run! 1964 Ginetta G4 is a blast to drive..And that wild Caddy Cien geeebuss... whata ild car that is to drive.

Those Ginettas are neat cars.
My favorite of the last 24 hours is the Lotus Europa Special. Perfect balance.

I also have that Charger just about maxed out now. About 550 hp with handling and brakes to match. I kept the stock exhaust though, good V8 sound.

I won a Chevelle too, and I'll try to come up with a good setup for Urchin.
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Post by: moose on March 01, 2005, 05:46:31 AM: ive decided that when i win the lottery the first car im going to buy is the esprit..

ive seen em at local shows, and they're mean looking, but damn dont they handle fine.. mmm
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Post by: indy007 on March 01, 2005, 07:57:14 AM: Got my copy yesterday. Got the Nike 2022 concept, a few other crap concepts I can't sell, 4 Nismo R400s, a 320hp MR2, & a Nur-spec Skyline. It's a good game, but not up to the hype. No damage models, the regular ps2 controllers are inferior to xbox controllers for racing (need a seperate analog for the brake), there's no damage models (iirc because the manufacturers refuse to see their cars take damage), and the tuner selection is crap. Why even have the different tuners if there's no difference in the quality/price of the upgrades?

Worth the $50... but just barely.
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Post by: Urchin on March 01, 2005, 04:32:00 PM: I *like* the Nismo 400R... it has 395 HP stock, and it handles fantastic. I might pimp that sucker out and use it for the harder races.
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Post by: texace on March 01, 2005, 06:45:02 PM: Quote
Originally posted by indy007
Got my copy yesterday. Got the Nike 2022 concept, a few other crap concepts I can't sell, 4 Nismo R400s, a 320hp MR2, & a Nur-spec Skyline. It's a good game, but not up to the hype. No damage models, the regular ps2 controllers are inferior to xbox controllers for racing (need a seperate analog for the brake), there's no damage models (iirc because the manufacturers refuse to see their cars take damage), and the tuner selection is crap. Why even have the different tuners if there's no difference in the quality/price of the upgrades?

Worth the $50... but just barely.

There's no physical damage because it would have taken two or more discs to get all the textures and physics into the game. That and the PS2 cannot handle much more physics processing.

The PS2 controller isn't meant to be used for this game. Find the wheel and use it. It makes it much better. I refuse to belive anything on the Xbox is xuperior to any console, period. ;)

There are differences in the upgrades, as some of the manufacturer upgrades cost less or produce more of an effect than the dealer upgrades.
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Post by: Urchin on March 01, 2005, 07:07:09 PM: I was curious about that, hadn't noticed any difference in the couple cars I compared.
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Post by: Urchin on March 01, 2005, 10:02:42 PM: What kind of 1/4-mile times could a 900 HP car expect?

I won a Camaro race car that I dropped a Turbo into, pushing it up to 900 HP, but I can't seem to break 10 seconds in the 1/4 mile.

I think the best I've ever gotten was 10.0010.
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Post by: crowMAW on March 01, 2005, 11:38:06 PM: Quote
Originally posted by nuchpatrick
Urchin,

I suppose your referring to understeer in int your Chevell.

Plus, turn the damn nanny bot all the way off. The nanny just won't let you use the throttle to steer the way you would in real life. And it seems the nanny is much more nannicious than in GT3. I dropped 4 sec in an S2k on Tsukuba just by turnning the nanny off.
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Post by: tikky on March 02, 2005, 12:11:55 AM: i love the NSX in that game... but why not too many people own that car (besides sub 100K price)?
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Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on March 02, 2005, 01:18:52 AM: Tip for newbies

I don't have too much time to play, I started with a Cheap celica 4WD. I hooked up a stage 2 turbo + NOS + handling.

I went to the "special events", passed the first one that gave me the Cady 750HP monster. The Cady makes me win all the authorized races with my finger in the nose "American hot rod who gives the Chevelle, MR beginner chalenge ..."

I used the boosted celica to win the Second special event race, capri rally hands down that gives a toyota rally car 2002 worth $234,000 takes about 15 minutes total.

Repeat, make $234,000.00 per 15 minutes ... buy what you want. Don't struggle with the small stuff.

I bought my long forbidden love, the 1967 Toyota 2000 GT:

(http://www.ies-geneve.ch/2000gt/Photos/Dessins/MAW_17.jpg)

cruising around my favorite track: The 8km something Nord. (Nurburing):aok
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Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on March 02, 2005, 01:23:27 AM: BTW, great 2000 GT website for the classic lovers (http://www.ies-geneve.ch/2000gt/)
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Post by: Vudak on March 02, 2005, 01:29:36 AM: Can someone do me a favor and find out if there's an Ford Taurus SHO in this one like there was in GT2?

If there is, I'll have to check it out.
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Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on March 02, 2005, 02:18:30 AM: yes in the used car lots, goes for 14K, the 1998.
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Post by: moose on March 02, 2005, 05:32:00 AM: hey, where can i turn off tcs and abs crap in turismo mode? i shut it off in arcade but i cant find it in my career and its driving me nuts

im not getting anything done in this damn game other then taking tons of photos, lol
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Post by: FUNKED1 on March 02, 2005, 07:00:00 AM: To turn off the driving aids "Nanny" in Gran Tourismo mode, you have to go into the setup menu when you are at the track. There is an item at the middle bottom of the setup screen which lets you set the traction control & abs strength and the strength of the understeer/oversteer nanny. For some modern cars it's quite realistic to leave those turned on, but in general it is a lot more fun with them turned off.
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Post by: FUNKED1 on March 02, 2005, 07:00:34 AM: Quote
Originally posted by moose
im not getting anything done in this damn game other then taking tons of photos, lol

I passed through 35% tonight. I want all the prize cars, and I'm going through it using B-Spec.
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Post by: CavemanJ on March 02, 2005, 07:34:36 AM: Quote
Originally posted by FUNKED1
I passed through 35% tonight. I want all the prize cars, and I'm going through it using B-Spec.

Better do some Aspec and practice =)
There's 5 prize cars in the mission area and 1 for each level of license (bronze, silver, and gold, 15cars total).
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Post by: FUNKED1 on March 02, 2005, 07:52:28 AM: Yep I have the prize car list.

B-spec lets you accelerate time by a factor of 3. I don't find racing the crappy AI drivers challenging or entertaining, so I am letting the B-spec bot do as much as possible. I drive the A-spec only stuff (licenses, missions, rally, etc) and some of the more interesting races that aren't too long.
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Post by: indy007 on March 02, 2005, 08:11:39 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Urchin
What kind of 1/4-mile times could a 900 HP car expect?

I won a Camaro race car that I dropped a Turbo into, pushing it up to 900 HP, but I can't seem to break 10 seconds in the 1/4 mile.

I think the best I've ever gotten was 10.0010.

My 1100hp TVR Speed 12 (stage 4 + supercharger + NOS + everything else that can be stuck on it) only runs 10.08 in the quarter... but on top speed tests, maxes out at 285.7mph. That's after tuning the tranny, suspension, & downforce for awhile.. more I tuned, slower it went... Gets to the point where the engine can no longer overcome the air resistance I believe.

Got licenses B - IA, got a 850hp Skyline for Japan, a 780hp NA Ford GT for the US races, & a 980hp Zonda + 1100hp TVR Speed 12 for Euro racing.. found if you win the Japan Championship it gives you a Nismo Z Concept LM Race Car that you can sell for 350k... and it's a pretty easy series. Tonight it's time to build a rally car & sport truck, plus a vew low end models to wrap up the beginner & pro series.
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Post by: FUNKED1 on March 02, 2005, 08:16:18 AM: BTW I made a Stage 4 + NOS Subaru 360. Yes I won. :)
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Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on March 02, 2005, 09:59:47 AM: Can you post the price car list Funked? I am not too interested by 1000 HP UFOs.

Quickest money I found so far is $264,000 for 2 2lap races at special condition race two (Capri), doesn't require a monster car to win.
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Post by: nuchpatrick on March 02, 2005, 10:03:39 AM: Geezzzbuss Funky your just zooming right along.. I'm only at 15%

I just finished my uber Benz 950hp AMG SLK65 it likes to roast tires all the way though 3rd gear. I think a taller rear gear will hopefully fix that issue.
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Post by: nuchpatrick on March 02, 2005, 10:05:23 AM: Yeah Frenchy thats the quickest way to get cash is to run capri over and over... I ran it with my 89 Mistu Galant VR-4
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Post by: GtoRA2 on March 02, 2005, 10:19:32 AM: Do you still have to do all the driving test to get licensees?

Man those are a pain!
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Post by: Heretik on March 02, 2005, 10:21:42 AM: Quote
Originally posted by texace
There's no physical damage because it would have taken two or more discs to get all the textures and physics into the game.

The lack of visible damage always has been and always will be a licensing issue. Many car manufacturers will not allow their products to be shown with any kind of cosmetic damage.

Is visible damage worth losing 3/4 of the cars in the game? If so you might want to check out TOCA Race Driver 2 which is actually a pretty decent racer but has nowhere near the number of cars as GT.
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Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on March 02, 2005, 10:40:14 AM: GT4 is still fairly arcadish even with the nany turn off (Has even to be on sometime on full "counter-understeer" to simulate some king of oversteer).:(

But should be good enought till Forza comes along ... online racing and custom rides is the only way to go nowadays.
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Post by: texace on March 02, 2005, 10:41:52 AM: I really don't know why there are so many cars in GT4, possibly because it's been a stple of the GT series for so many years to have a large number of cars with the best possible physics.

Besides the licensing issue, which you're spot on with, there's really no need to show damage to these vehicles. Consider this, in a NASCAR game, they accurately detail damage and the physical downside of it because admage is a part of the race. You're always door handle to door handle and someone's going to bite the dust at some point. When you're racing in the GT series, you're not "supposed" to crash into things. Some of the things I've seen my friends do would total a car with a single blow. If the game did that, you'd have to buy a new car and sit out a week while you recover. Doesn't make for a very fun game when you have to keep buying cars left and right or keep spending money on repairs because you don't know how to drive. :(

I'm not saying you don't know how to play the game. I'm actually making a statement based on how all my friends and their friends play the game. I'm strange, as I actually like the tests and like "driving" the cars while everyone else I know will do everything possible to win and beat the game. They will, as we all like to put it, "game the game."

Certainly GT4 has an insane number of cars and a large number of tracks while TOCA is a good racer it doesn't come close to GT4 in my opinion. Comparing them side by side, they look about the same to me and GT4 seems to drive better for me. I'm a little biased because I still have the original three GTs in my room somewhere and I've played them forever. Not that TOCA isn't a good game, it's just not my cup of tea.

Besides, what other game lets you take pictures of a DeLorean DMC 12 stomping all over an RX-7. :D
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Post by: indy007 on March 02, 2005, 10:43:02 AM: Quote
Originally posted by GtoRA2
Do you still have to do all the driving test to get licensees?

Man those are a pain!

It's not as bad as you think. I did B to IB in 1 sitting. Two hours tops (including Sit-N-Wait-Station load times).. only 2 tests from wrapping up IA, Nurburgring hotlap & the grad test. Problem with the Nur hotlap is the pace car system they use now. I've played the track so many times I pick a faster line than it does, and it fails you if you overtake.

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I am not too interested by 1000 HP UFOs.

If it can't go 200+ mph, it doesn't have a place in my garage.. except for a handful of niche cars (1 boxer, 1 convertible, 1 classic, etc, etc) :) You can already drive any of the cars in arcade mode from what I saw of it, so I sell them as fast I win them. I B-mode'd my way to riches, and now I'm going through and beating all the circuits in A-spec. More fun for me :)
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Post by: GtoRA2 on March 02, 2005, 10:49:18 AM: indy007
So the tests are easier then say GT3?
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Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on March 02, 2005, 11:00:48 AM: Texace, I agree for GT racing and above, but GT4 also brings to you the Euro championships such as BTCC, and the week end warriors. Those are the ones where you can actually "rubbing is racing". A time penalty for "hitting", is a good cheap alternative to prevent the "wall bouncing no brake turn".

Indy, the fun for me is to drive an old classic. Thundering into the corner riding the fin equilibrium of the road bite, escaping with a slight oversteer at the exit. Not having much power, braking and grip makes you constently try to ride the edge, knowing that when you pass it you are up for a time costly power slide. That's my fun:p Like when I drive my real life 1973 trantran. Kind of like the pilot saying: Jets are for kids

When it's finally the week end, I ditch the F250 with the ladder rack, remove the car cover from the trantran, warm the engine up and go see my girlfriend. I don't know if I have more pleasure knowing that I'm going to get laid, or by knowing I'll be driving my car for 2 days.:lol
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Post by: indy007 on March 02, 2005, 11:17:07 AM: Quote
So the tests are easier then say GT3?

Mostly yes, some no. I got passed 90% of the tests the first time I tried. Won silver about 25% of the time, gold maybe 10%. It's just wierd getting used to new phsyics and the cars they make you drive. Half the time I'd enter the first corner not knowing if my car was FF, FR, or AWD.

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Indy, the fun for me is to drive an old classic. Thundering into the corner riding the fin equilibrium of the road bite, escaping with a slight oversteer at the exit. Not having much power, braking and grip makes you constently try to ride the edge, knowing that when you pass it you are up for a time costly power slide. That's my fun:p Like when I drive my real life 1973 trantran. Kind of like the pilot saying: Jets are for kids
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Thankfully, I am a kid :) This weekend we'll be running however many people it lets into LAN play... flashbacks to PGR2 on xbox... all my friends drive very clean, but extremely aggressive and the track is filled with JGTC cars... so I build garages full of different UFOs to stay competitive with their "real" cars. Just gotta have a car built & tuned for every single track setup :)
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Post by: moose on March 02, 2005, 12:02:29 PM: lan play is bizaare...

you gotta select 30 favorites cuz it only allows those and certain arcade models..and cars you buy in turismo mode can be put as favorites, but nothing from your garage

so basically once you get down to it, no tuned up races.. which is ok i guess, though not the best setup

other then that lan play is awesome.. love drivin the 500hp cars with my friends in nurumburg, that race is somethin else
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Post by: moose on March 02, 2005, 12:03:12 PM: Quote
Originally posted by FUNKED1
To turn off the driving aids "Nanny" in Gran Tourismo mode, you have to go into the setup menu when you are at the track. There is an item at the middle bottom of the setup screen which lets you set the traction control & abs strength and the strength of the understeer/oversteer nanny. For some modern cars it's quite realistic to leave those turned on, but in general it is a lot more fun with them turned off.

so just set both to 0? i thought that might be it but i wasnt sure
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Post by: GtoRA2 on March 04, 2005, 11:42:16 AM: Fantastic!!!!

Lets see, My fav so far is the 71 440 Sixpack cuda, 730 HP, though I think it is making less now that I played with Nitros.

I love the Bspec mode! Easy way to make money early on while you read.

Just won a superbird.

Really great stuff, does anyone know of a page that list car setups, I am doing ok with my own but I would like to compare.
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Post by: indy007 on March 04, 2005, 11:53:00 AM: I got my Pagani Zonda to run 8.75 @ 165-ish on the 400m strip, and still push over 230 flat out with the same gear ratio...

Finally getting an appreciation for the classics. Having alot of fun in a midly tuned Toyota 2000GT :)
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Post by: FUNKED1 on March 04, 2005, 01:34:04 PM: Anybody playing on Chamonix or Tsukuba Wet yet? Driving a Stratos on those is driftriffic. I tried a GT350 and it was hilarious.
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Post by: indy007 on March 04, 2005, 01:48:56 PM: Quote
Originally posted by FUNKED1
Anybody playing on Chamonix or Tsukuba Wet yet? Driving a Stratos on those is driftriffic. I tried a GT350 and it was hilarious.

What section is it in? I'm wrapping up the last of the pro section at the moment so I can get to the extreme events :)
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Post by: Urchin on March 04, 2005, 02:33:25 PM: I'm torn between school-work and WoW.. unfortunately GT4 is kind of on the shelf for now. I did make a lil over a million bucks doing that trick though lol.
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Post by: Krusher on March 04, 2005, 03:22:14 PM: Speeed racerrr

(http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40887000/jpg/_40887057_libor_vojacek.jpg)
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Post by: FUNKED1 on March 04, 2005, 03:24:24 PM: Quote
Originally posted by indy007
What section is it in? I'm wrapping up the last of the pro section at the moment so I can get to the extreme events :)

Those are both in the rally section, but Tsukuba Wet gets added to World Circuits eventually and I think Chamonix is also in the Dirty & Snow section.
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Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on March 04, 2005, 04:59:38 PM: Quote
Finally getting an appreciation for the classics. Having alot of fun in a midly tuned Toyota 2000GT :)

That's my boy:D(http://www.ies-geneve.ch/2000gt/Photos/Divers/pic_1054.jpg)
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Post by: GtoRA2 on March 04, 2005, 05:23:41 PM: I wish they had more classic US stuff.

70-73 Trans am or Formula.
61-64 SS 409 impalla.

68 or 69 GTO or 69 Judge

Old 442 any year.

70 AAR cuda

68 GT500 KR

67 SS/RS 396 Camaro

and so many more.

Heck even a shoe box Chevy would be cool.
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Post by: FUNKED1 on March 04, 2005, 05:37:54 PM: There's quite enough live axle road whales already. :)
I think the game is aimed more at Road & Track types than Motor Trend readers. :D
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Post by: GtoRA2 on March 04, 2005, 05:50:30 PM: Bah!

They packed in every honda and Nissain ever made. They need more GOOD cars!

Live axles rock!:D
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Post by: newguy on March 04, 2005, 10:27:44 PM: 2000 Z06. wtf.
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Post by: moot on March 05, 2005, 03:35:04 AM: Dropping just one bike in the game woulda been fun.

Superbike I MEAN 1843 Indian woulda been cool to spurt against the faster road cars and some of the [R] cars.
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Post by: Urchin on March 05, 2005, 08:32:06 AM: Bleh... I've been waiting for an 87-93 Mustang GT since GT2...

I'd have liked to see more American stuff too, but I think it is more of a "ricer" game. That is cool, they still have some American stuff, and Porsches, which are my second favorite car.

One curious thing I was wondering if someone could explain. I bought a '00 Mustang Cobra... and AFTER all the HP add-ons it could only get to ~550 HP. I then went to put a supercharger on it, except the HP before was like 3 hp higher than the HP "after".... so whats the deal?

How can putting a supercharger on the car DROP the horsepower? That doesn't make any sense to me.
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Post by: Kegger26 on March 05, 2005, 08:44:20 AM: The only reasion I am going to buy Forza is because of Road Atlanta being one of the tracks. I am good friends with Jim Downing of Downing Atlanta racing and whenever they rent the track out for the day to test one of there car you bet your bellybutton you can find me out there in my Mustang running the track to. I love that track. It is a blast to scream out there holding the turns...it is up there with sex... well maybe not.. but a close second.

-Keg.
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Post by: indy007 on March 05, 2005, 08:50:31 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Urchin
How can putting a supercharger on the car DROP the horsepower? That doesn't make any sense to me.

Putting on a supercharger removes any NA Tuning mods you put on your car. Also I've noticed that some mods match up better & make more power. On several of my cars the racing exhaust makes less power than the sports exhaust. Depends on the level of tuning.
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Post by: CavemanJ on March 05, 2005, 01:37:05 PM: Just a quick power note for those who may not know... when you buy a new car (or used one with 6.2miles on it) go straight to GT Auto and change the oil before you put it on any track. This will give you a 5% boost in your horsepower. You can tune/mod the car and then go change the oil and still get the boost, but once you put the car on a track you lose the opportunity.
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Post by: indy007 on March 05, 2005, 02:15:57 PM: Quote
Originally posted by CavemanJ
Just a quick power note for those who may not know... when you buy a new car (or used one with 6.2miles on it) go straight to GT Auto and change the oil before you put it on any track. This will give you a 5% boost in your horsepower. You can tune/mod the car and then go change the oil and still get the boost, but once you put the car on a track you lose the opportunity.

You also gain more power over time as the engine breaks in. The Zonda C12S 7.3 that I'm so fond of started with 547hp. After stage 3 NA tune and the rest of the bells & whistles, it was up to around 950. After a couple trips down the Mulsanne Straight & some laps on the Nurburgring, and no oil changes, it's pushing 984hp and still climbing. :)
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Post by: CavemanJ on March 05, 2005, 11:09:29 PM: Quote
Originally posted by indy007
You also gain more power over time as the engine breaks in. The Zonda C12S 7.3 that I'm so fond of started with 547hp. After stage 3 NA tune and the rest of the bells & whistles, it was up to around 950. After a couple trips down the Mulsanne Straight & some laps on the Nurburgring, and no oil changes, it's pushing 984hp and still climbing. :)

I haven't come across that. I'll have to look start watching for it. But an Evo VIII I modded out seems to have lost about 30 horses since I finished it and started racing it.