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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Elfie on February 27, 2005, 05:48:34 PM
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Is there a naming policy for what is acceptable for player names? If so, why are names like KisMyAss and SomB*tch tolerated?
Both of those names are currently in use by players. My oldest daughter reads the text buffer faster than I do.
If these names are acceptable its just one more reason to allow a permanent squelch list.
*edit* language filter prevents typing SomB*tch's actual name. Just replace * with the letter i. If the language filter here wont let me type his actual name, then he shouldnt be using it in game either imo.
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Why not just drop us an email about it? I'll never understand why something like this should even be posted on the bulletin board.
Of course those names are not acceptable.
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Because you dont always get the emails Skuzzy, something to do with your settings so you dont get sent virus's. Posting it here ensures you DO get it.
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I've complained about foul names. I received a prompt reply from HTC. The offender disappeared.
Try again.
HONK!
Gooss
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Personal attack
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edit: Waste of time. :rolleyes:
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Inflammatory
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ohh this is gonna be good lol
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Well I could understand a real bad name but his to me isn't that bad. (means female dog) I think Elfie should worry about what is written in the text buffer more than SB's name. A lot worse is typed out in the text buffer. How do you handle that situation Elfie?
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Originally posted by Gooss
I've complained about foul names. I received a prompt reply from HTC. The offender disappeared.
Try again.
HONK!
Gooss
When talking to Skuzzy in game once I mentioned I had gotten no replies from him previously when I emailed him about a game issue. He said something to the effect that if I didnt get a reply from him, then he didnt get it and referenced his virus filters as a possible reason. (All that is paraphased heh)
Earlier this week I sent him another email, this time with a screenshot attached. I got no reply so I have to guess that he didnt get it.
I run a very good AV proggie and keep the AV definitions up to date. I also run 4 or 5 anti- spyware proggies. My email is scanned before it is sent to ensure I am not sending out any virus's. I am really not sure what more I can do to ensure *clean* email from my end, however, I am open to suggestions.
This is the one sure way I knew to bring this to HTC's attention since I havent have very good luck contacting via email.
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The email messages I've sent had no attachment. Maybe your attachments triggered the AV filters.
My assumption was that if I pointed it out, they could confirm it and act on it if they wanted.
HONK!
Gooss
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Originally posted by SFCHONDO
Well I could understand a real bad name but his to me isn't that bad. (means female dog) I think Elfie should worry about what is written in the text buffer more than SB's name. A lot worse is typed out in the text buffer. How do you handle that situation Elfie?
By far the worst stuff is on channel 200, I simply dont tune to that channel except on very rare occasions. Country text is far more mild, with only an occassional masked swear word.
It also doesnt just mean a female dog Hondo. It is far more commonly used as a derogatory term towards the human female. You already knew that though didnt you?
I understand that some parents dont mind their kids hearing foul language, some dont even mind if their kids use foul language. Thats those parents' choice, it is not mine. I respect those parents choices even though I do not agree with them.
I've made my choice on this issue regarding my kids.
Of course those names are not acceptable.
Obviously I am not the only one who finds those names unacceptable.
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Originally posted by Gooss
The email messages I've sent had no attachment. Maybe your attachments triggered the AV filters.
My assumption was that if I pointed it out, they could confirm it and act on it if they wanted.
HONK!
Gooss
Understood Gooss.
This is the only place to point it out if my email isnt getting through :(
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Agree with you.
No place in a game for that. No matter what anyone says it's not gonna make em have any class. I don't really care if they have no class but it'd be nicer if they took it somewhere else.
In working with Skuzzy I've seen him kill that kinda trash. But if he's not in the arena all the time, and who can be, then he can't catch em all. Especially with the two weekers who show and go.
What I really don't understand is some of these guys think so little of themselves that they actually think they're being cool.
More's the pity.
LOL I can see em now. How mom! Look at my new call sign!!!
ROFL
:lol :lol :lol
Ren
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To add....if I was moderating this board
two guys who posted to this thread would be gone....LOL
Be glad I'm not and if you ask if I care....nope.
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(http://www.x-plane.org/home/RedDog/popcorn_smiley.gif)
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Originally posted by DamnedRen
To add....if I was moderating this board
two guys who posted to this thread would be gone....LOL
Be glad I'm not and if you ask if I care....nope.
I know who both of them are. The first one used the exact same wording as he used in the game while talking to me there. The second one isnt hard to figure out either from his many posts in the OClub.
I respect Hondo for coming in here without making a shades account.
The other 2 still have time to delete their posts, I'm not sure if they can delete the names they used here in this thread though.
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Hang in there Elfie!!
I've seen more of this kind of bs than most of you. I get a LOT of the 14 yr old "Bad boy" 2 week trialers. They are new to the net, they are ohhh so secure in their distance. And they are OHHH so bound to be bad cause nobody can do nothing to stop them.
There are lots of names, and lots of varients out there.
If they are coming up with bad ones you know they are LOOKING for trouble.
To that I have 2 words to say.
GROW UP
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DANG IT...... It still takes me 20 minutes to get past Hondo's avatar:rofl
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An old squadmate of mine used the name 'Phoq' for a long time, it caused such an uproar at that time that it threatened to have him banned. I guess that is mild in comparison. :)
I hate to say this, but an improvement in the community would do wonders but it has to start from where they 'subscribe'. If we had volunteer trainers to show the new players the right attitude, it would do wonders. Currently, training is disorganized and (imho) not really encouraged.
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Hiyas Deli!
Ok, I've seen you show up the last couple of days in the TA. But, when I was there you were AFK from the tower. Be that as it may.....
The Trainers DO look at everyone new to the game that shows in the TA. Unfortunately you will see some guy that gets on as a 2 week wonder and never logs into the game but plays H2H. Then after a year goes by they decide to "come aboard" and see what they can do. That is when the "call sign" gets recognized. And....they never made a trip through the TA. Lame call signs out there? Yes!
So, in answer to your statement, the trainers already teach new folks about life in the game. But, we don't see every soul that enters the game. Only those that make a pass through the TA.
They also learn they are a held responsible for their actions while in the TA. Unlike peer pressure that may or may not work in the other arenas. By the same token we are not their momma's and pappa's (nor babysitters) and with the numbers of newbys that show up daily there is not alot of time to mess with some guy that gets up saying F U to everyone in the arena. Normally some new person that comes through the TA for a stint of training leave and moves to the other arenas to become another member of this great community and share in the fun we are all having. As they gain more experience they even contribute their newly gained knowledge to other newby's just entering the game.
We DO report call signs that are inappropriate to Skuzzy and he DOES handle it.
Some slips through as you an see from a couple on this thread.
Bro!!!
:aok
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Originally posted by Delirium
If we had volunteer trainers to show the new players the right attitude, it would do wonders.
One of the problems is people have to select their ID before they can ever come into contact with trainers, or anybody else in the arena. A clear policy on the sign-up screen is the first step to keeping people straight.
I would also submit that most, if not all, of the players who choose these types of ID's already know they are unacceptable and, as Ghosth pointed out, are using the anonymity of the internet to impress themselves.
A helpful feature would be to allow people to change their ID without losing their 2 free weeks. As it is now, I believe if they try to sign up with a different name, they lose whatever part of the 2 weeks is left. (I could be wrong about this).
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Originally posted by Elfie
Both of those names are currently in use by players. My oldest daughter reads the text buffer faster than I do.
yeeep they are ok ...
well.. what can i say... if is she over 15 send her here and i will teach her where should she put her eyes :D
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lada, does yer mommy know you talk like that?
Want to write and tell her for ya?
I can if you'd like.
Ren
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She's 10 lada, so please keep your perverted pedophile thoughts to yourself :)
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One of the problems is people have to select their ID before they can ever come into contact with trainers, or anybody else in the arena. A clear policy on the sign-up screen is the first step to keeping people straight.
SB at least, is not a new player, just a new name. He should have known already that his name was unacceptable. It's my guess that he did since he tryed to tell me in game that *Skuzzy is fine with it*. I figured that was a bunch of crap as soon as he said it.
A clear, naming policy on the sign up screen is not a bad idea. Most multi-player online games do have some sort of naming policy in place.
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After leaving the game for the summer a couple years ago, I signed up again and since Magoo was taken (by me from before) I needed something to use for the moment. After many failed tries at a name that was not already in use I typed in "Christ" thinking it wouldn't take...it did take and off I flew! Some of those bad names are out of frustration - maybe 1/3 of them, the rest are indeed Schmucks who hide behind the internet.
I flew as Christ for a few weeks and really never got any grief from anyone about the name, much to my surprise. It made for some interesting exchanges on the radio buffer. Finally, I decided that my flying wasn't doing justice to the name and requested (and recieved) Magoo.
ummm...Magoo
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Originally posted by Elfie
She's 10 lada, so please keep your perverted pedophile thoughts to yourself :)
She whould be safe ,except if she have black eyes or if she look like a frog (green skin and all ;))
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Yes, I agree..been seeing a few of undesireable names. You named two of the three that get me upset. Not for me so much as my 12 y.o. son who also plays this game. Skuzzy will get an e-mail about another
name from me.
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I can't believe there are actually at least 43 people frm Ohio!
Hail Ohio!!!
:D
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some guys fly with nazi names,, thats worse
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Does this mean that someone form Boise can's have call sign Private Idaho, because someone fluent in ebonics will be offended???? I-da-ho:D :D
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Are you suggesting if you were from Athole, Idaho that's a bad thing?
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town close to me called cockermouth
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That's funny Selector.
How about Cumming, GA
or
Shakerag, GA (not rude, just silly)
(I officially hijack this thread):D
Magoo
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I talked to Skuzzy in game a bit today. It appears the problem with my emails may have been attachments that weren't zipped. In the future I will zip all attachments :)
Thanks for your time in-game Skuzzy, I know you are really busy.
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I hate dirty names.
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theres some town in NJ named Buttzville.
or what about Coxsackie, NY?
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Hell michigan
Climax Michigan
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THIS IS STUPID
I mean it. There are about 900 other things to whine about. Does this mean I cant change my name back to SkipNutz???
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Originally posted by T1loady
THIS IS STUPID
I mean it. There are about 900 other things to whine about. Does this mean I cant change my name back to SkipNutz???
Stupid to you maybe, but not stupid to those who make a living supporting this game.
How many will quit because of a strict name policy vs. how many will not renew or not allow their kids to have accounts because of behavior online?
Personnally, I think there is a great community here, but I credit the conduct police for that even if I would like to see it even more strict.
HTC will not let it get too bad I'm sure, it's just not a good business decision.
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I would like to comment on the last post if I may. I do not want more kids/children/under 18 years olds online. This is not because I want to use poor language and or have a great CPID. This is an combat simulation were I would love see people using better tactics and make it a real combat simulation. I didnt mean that the policy on CPID or filters are a bad idea, but isnt there a SQUELCH function for this.... Just my .02 Thanks for you time..
Skipz
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I let my daughter on a nearly unmoderated open chat capable game just about as often as I let her walk the city streets alone and unsupervised.
She is 9.
If I want her to fly, I have Offline.
If I want her subject to the inevitable crass, crude, unsophisticated, immature, derogotory total nonsense I could find on any street corner, I let her loose in the MA.
How often do I let her loose in the MA?
Umm..ya, right.
It's a game full of people. People are idiots. Filter them accordingly.
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I do not want more kids/children/under 18 years olds online.
Some kids are darn good cyber-pilots. In fact, I think a high percentage of the *kids* want to learn so they can be competitive. In AirWarrior at least, most of the kids I knew were quite good. Can't say that about most of the adults I knew there.
Isnt 616Fubar a teen? He is a perfect example of a young man that is also quite skilled in AH. Canaris is another good example. And you dont want people like them here? I say it's a good thing you dont get to make that descion. :)
This isnt just a game for adults, and I'm glad it isnt.
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I would like to see a list of potty mouths and potty typists posted somewhere.
I would then like to be able to load that list in my AH directory, and everytime I started the game those people would be blocked from my vox and from my text buffer. Change the list every 2 weeks, but a person stays on the list more than that for each reported offense. You should also be allowed to edit the list with whomever else you don't want to hear.
I would also like anyone on that list not to be able to receive a check 6 or a Salute from those who use the list.
Everyone who down loads that file has the isolated that potty mouth. He will be limited in the check 6's he gets. He will be unable to communicate anything to that group of players. That is, he will not see anything anyone who loads that list types or hear what he says.
Thus there is a penalty for being a potty mouth. You will be a lot more isolated. A lot less part of the MA community.
Some will change their behavior, some will leave. We win either way.
If you want to swear, do it on your squad channel, that is if your squad allows it. Better yet, do all your cussing without hitting your transmit key.
I find throwing a plastic coffee cup at the wall quite therapeutic. I used to throw my joysticks, but that became too expensive. My cat worked for a while, but she no longer comes near me when I play on the computer. :(
Right now you can only turn off channel 200 as I do. Or turn off individuals.
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Originally posted by ROCrats
I let my daughter on a nearly unmoderated open chat capable game just about as often as I let her walk the city streets alone and unsupervised.
:aok Man... I love it when rational people take responsibility for raising their own kids instead of letting the World do it for them. I'm the same way about everything internet related... I let my kid (male) Loose just as often as I drop him off downtown. Never.
Woof
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Originally posted by AKFokerFoder+
I would like to see a list of potty mouths and potty typists posted somewhere.
I would then like to be able to load that list in my AH directory, and everytime I started the game those people would be blocked from my vox and from my text buffer. Change the list every 2 weeks, but a person stays on the list more than that for each reported offense. You should also be allowed to edit the list with whomever else you don't want to hear.
I would also like anyone on that list not to be able to receive a check 6 or a Salute from those who use the list.
Everyone who down loads that file has the isolated that potty mouth. He will be limited in the check 6's he gets. He will be unable to communicate anything to that group of players. That is, he will not see anything anyone who loads that list types or hear what he says.
Thus there is a penalty for being a potty mouth. You will be a lot more isolated. A lot less part of the MA community.
Some will change their behavior, some will leave. We win either way.
If you want to swear, do it on your squad channel, that is if your squad allows it. Better yet, do all your cussing without hitting your transmit key.
I find throwing a plastic coffee cup at the wall quite therapeutic. I used to throw my joysticks, but that became too expensive. My cat worked for a while, but she no longer comes near me when I play on the computer. :(
Right now you can only turn off channel 200 as I do. Or turn off individuals.
You are kidding right? Can you control what you hear at the mall? Can you control what you hear sitting at Wendy's having dinner? I understand that some people are offended by bad language, but I bet as many or more so dont care. This is getting a little out of control..
Some kids are darn good cyber-pilots. In fact, I think a high percentage of the *kids* want to learn so they can be competitive. In AirWarrior at least, most of the kids I knew were quite good. Can't say that about most of the adults I knew there. from elfie
I would agree that some of them are good pilots. Fubar is a great example, however I dont want to have to wach my mouth like I am a church. Fubar flies with my squad quite a but and when he is on my squad vox I do notice a big change in the conduct of my squad. Should everyone have an ICON next to their name with their age??? I think that bringing kids into avation (I fly for a living) is a great thing. The point of this is.. Why should something that only bother a small % of the people make eveyone else change the way they play the SIM that they pay for each month.
.squelch Skipz That way I wont offend you when I get pissed that I just got HO'd. That should make you all happy. Make sure I get added to lthe list hat AK wants becuase I am human and I curse.
Sorry I am off my soap box. I am not trying to blast anyone or say they are worng. I am just using this forum to vent. Thanks for your time.
Skipz
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Originally posted by DamnedRen
Agree with you.
No place in a game for that. No matter what anyone says it's not gonna make em have any class. I don't really care if they have no class but it'd be nicer if they took it somewhere else.
In working with Skuzzy I've seen him kill that kinda trash. But if he's not in the arena all the time, and who can be, then he can't catch em all. Especially with the two weekers who show and go.
What I really don't understand is some of these guys think so little of themselves that they actually think they're being cool.
More's the pity.
LOL I can see em now. How mom! Look at my new call sign!!!
ROFL
:lol :lol :lol
Ren
I'm not trying to call you out here ren, but I think your post is mildly ironic =)
This topic is about people with curse or offensive slang words in their names, you have been a proponent for abolishing such things, yet your name is: DamnedRen.
I guess it all matters as to where you want to draw the line, but "damn" and "b|tch" along with "skipnutz and hairynutz" are all on about the same level with me.
However, I really don't care either way how this goes, but if you have a vested interest in the discussion you may want to talk about it further :D
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Why should something that only bother a small % of the people make eveyone else change the way they play the SIM that they pay for each month.
We pay to play the sim, but that doesnt give us the right to talk however we like. This is a private forum (the game that is), and HiTech EXPECTS us to conduct ourselves as mature adults.
Mature adults show self control when they get angry. I know, I know....we all slip sometimes, including myself.
Just yesterday some guy cursed when he got killed in a tank on Furball Island. I piped up on vox and said "Language please, I have 2 young girls here". The guy responded by saying "I'm sorry Elfie, I'll watch it from now on" and then proceeded to apologize to my daughters on vox. I have absolutely NO problems with that scenario.
Otoh, there have been times when I have asked others to please watch their language and been ignored or had expletives directed at me for asking.
The first scenario is far more common than the second. More people than you think will voluntarily watch their language when they know kids are around. That kinda shoots the statement I quoted right in the foot.
I do not want more kids/children/under 18 years olds online. This is not because I want to use poor language and or have a great CPID.
This comment and the first one I quoted seem to contradict each other imo. Btw....if you are getting HO'd you need to learn to avoid the HO. It's actually quite easy and will save you some stress. :D
One last thing. As adults we have a responsibility to set the example for the younger players (and our kids). Is cursing and *off-color* CPIDs how you want to set the example? That's not the example I personally want to set.
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and HiTech EXPECTS us to conduct ourselves as mature adults
See the key word there???
"Language please, I have 2 young girls here".
Maybe you should spend some time with them away from the game..
Btw....if you are getting HO'd you need to learn to avoid the HO. It's actually quite easy and will save you some stress.
Just an example... but thanks for the tip..
This is not a personal attack on you Elfie I don’t want anyone to think that, just remember that there are 2 sides to everything. I have a little girl too, and I wouldn’t want her to hear that kind of talk. The answer is I don’t play when she is awake and I use earphones. Secondly, I am in the military and I fly. I use bad words and sometime offend people. That is my right. Just like it is your to not like the language used in the game. We are all equals here and I just don’t think it is fair to change people CPID because someone doesn’t like them. How about the JB's. Last time I checked they are named after a German Air Force term. They were Nazi's and maybe I am Jewish(im not but if I was) and that offended me, would we have to change every name in the squad??? See my point?? Cant we just play the great sim that they have built for us (and that we pay for) an just have some dang fun. This is getting a little crazy here.
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Skipz
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I always get a kick out of how many people take the bait and start responding to moronic behaviour, which is usually meant to attract attention. If you ignore them -or squelch them - they might just go away.
Skuzzy - how's that permanent squelch list coming along? :p
Sour
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For starters, no one has the *right* to behave in an offensive manner, or to use offensive language.
If you read some of my posts earlier in this thread you will see my reasons for posting this as oppossed to just sending an email.
Let's assume for a moment that I had sent an email. When SB's name got changed everyone would have thought it was HTC *at fault* for the name change. Would the outrage still be the same? Somehow I doubt it.
Secondly, so what if the JB's are named after a Luftwaffe unit. Do you realize that officers of the German armed forces were not allowed to belong to any political party? SS units are an obvious exception, but then the SS units had a different chain of command iirc than normal Wehrmact units did.
The reference to adults was a direct reference to you and I as adults. I in no way thought your post was an attack on me. You are discussing this without resorting to personal attacks and for that I respect you. (Unlike your 2 squaddies that felt the need to create shades accounts to post in this thread)
I do spend time with my kids away from the game. My older daughter (10) likes to watch me play. There is NO WAY she will let me play while she is watching if I am wearing headphones. That would be like watching one of those silent movies.
Now this one is just funny: She almost always wants to *race* reading the text buffer just as I enter a fight. One time I asked her why she only wants to race reading while I am fighting. Her answer: "Because you are distracted and I know I can win!" :rofl
If you are having difficulty avoiding HO shots give me a holler in the game and we can go to the TA or DA and I can show you how I avoid it. Doesnt work 100% of the time, but I rarely take hits on the merge.