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Title: P-38J/M Skin question
Post by: Jager on February 28, 2005, 01:48:15 PM

I have information pertaining to the Night Fighter P-38J and M models.   I have to do some more investigating but I know for a fact that there was a P-38J Night fighter that did not have external radar on the wings and Nose like the M model.  here is where i got the info and I will post when I find a pick of an P-38J Nightfighter.

http://www.p-38online.com/p38m.html

I also made the Night Fighter skin on AH-Skins.com  under AWJager for the L model

Title: Proof
Post by: Jager on February 28, 2005, 01:52:44 PM

here is some proof :)

RIP Lt. Ashley Nagle

http://www.pacificwrecks.com/people/mia/missing/nagle.html

Title: Re: P-38J/M Skin question
Post by: Guppy35 on February 28, 2005, 02:18:50 PM

Quote

Originally posted by Jager
I have information pertaining to the Night Fighter P-38J and M models.   I have to do some more investigating but I know for a fact that there was a P-38J Night fighter that did not have external radar on the wings and Nose like the M model.  here is where i got the info and I will post when I find a pick of an P-38J Nightfighter.

http://www.p-38online.com/p38m.html

I also made the Night Fighter skin on AH-Skins.com  under AWJager for the L model

Here's your bird, or one of the two P38Fs modified in Australia to the night fighter role with the 6th NFS.

No Js that I'm aware of

Dan/Slack
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/810_1109621816_p38fnightfighter.jpg)

Title: Re: Proof
Post by: Guppy35 on February 28, 2005, 02:25:25 PM

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Originally posted by Jager
here is some proof :)

RIP Lt. Ashley Nagle

http://www.pacificwrecks.com/people/mia/missing/nagle.html

549th had P61s on Iwo.  If it was a 38 it would have been an M model not a field modified J as it would have made little sense to use a field mod J when they already had Black Widows.

That Pacific Wrecks doesn't list a serial number, leaves the issue in doubt too.  It could also have been that Nagle was out for a ride in a war weary 38 and got lost as there is no second passenger/radar op listed.  

Dan/Slack

Title: PROOF!
Post by: Jager on February 28, 2005, 02:43:16 PM

http://members.fortunecity.com/ww2airmen/scrapbookd.html

Look at this boys...Its a P-38J painted to look like a  "droopsnoot".  Which was a 2 man crew 38.  But as a I said, this is a plain P-38J painted like one....so can I procceed in painting this beautiful "Betsy VI"???? :)


I have  finally found it :)

Title: "Double Trouble"
Post by: Jager on February 28, 2005, 03:13:47 PM

Here is another one.  "Double trouble" was the nickname in its service http://p38assn.org/surviving.htm

and here is some more pics AND movies of the plane.
http://www.war-eagles-air-museum.com/p-38_1.html

Title: Re: PROOF!
Post by: Guppy35 on February 28, 2005, 03:21:44 PM

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Originally posted by Jager
http://members.fortunecity.com/ww2airmen/scrapbookd.html

Look at this boys...Its a P-38J painted to look like a  "droopsnoot".  Which was a 2 man crew 38.  But as a I said, this is a plain P-38J painted like one....so can I procceed in painting this beautiful "Betsy VI"???? :)


I have  finally found it :)

Not to be a pain, but it was common practice on regular Js that flew with the droopsnoots, to polish the nose up in unpainted metal in hopes of protecting the droopsnoot.  

Can you point to "Betsy VI". Not sure which bird that is.

Dan/Slack

Title: Re: "Double Trouble"
Post by: Guppy35 on February 28, 2005, 03:23:15 PM

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Originally posted by Jager
Here is another one.  "Double trouble" was the nickname in its service http://p38assn.org/surviving.htm

and here is some more pics AND movies of the plane.
http://www.war-eagles-air-museum.com/p-38_1.html

Um...er... Double Trouble was a photo recce F5G that was later modified for racing with the smaller intakes etc.

Not sure the connection to a night fighter P38?

Dan/Slack

Title: P-38J/M Skin question
Post by: Guppy35 on February 28, 2005, 03:25:43 PM

And before you point to Scatterbrain Kid with its second seat :)

Those parts for the second seat came from a P38M that was returned from South America in the 60s along with some Ls.

The owner of the M model, wanted a regular fighter version and swapped parts so that the J has the M's second seat and canopy while the M now looks like a regular L.

Dan/Slack

Title: P-38J/M Skin question
Post by: Guppy35 on February 28, 2005, 03:30:37 PM

OK found Besty VI.  THere are 20th FG Js done I think, but why not go for it?  OD/Gray J with the polished nose to help camo the droop snoots.

Looks like a good one :)

Dan/Slack

Title: Guppy35
Post by: Jager on March 01, 2005, 07:42:14 PM

Thanx guppy...been working on it the last two days.....Ill post an image tomarrow when it is complete and I email to HTC :)  Heres a pic of the plane in real life...


(http://members.fortunecity.com/ww2airmen/betsy6.jpg)

Title: P-38J/M Skin question
Post by: oboe on March 01, 2005, 08:12:30 PM

Thanks Grumpy???   LOL where did that come from?

Title: P-38J/M Skin question
Post by: United on March 01, 2005, 08:16:20 PM

Quote

Originally posted by oboe
Thanks Grumpy???   LOL where did that come from?

OT: so far we have Guppy named as Greebo and Grumpy. :D

Title: P-38J/M Skin question
Post by: Guppy35 on March 01, 2005, 11:12:39 PM

Thats ok, my own kids don't recognize me either :)

Dan/Slack

Title: sorrie
Post by: Jager on March 02, 2005, 06:37:44 AM

sorry Guppy, was in a hurry I appoligise a thousand times for mispelling your name..


almost done! :)