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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Sandman on February 28, 2005, 03:21:24 PM

Title: Support the troops?
Post by: Sandman on February 28, 2005, 03:21:24 PM

I'm rather surprised this story hasn't found its way here.

The guy left a very well paying job to re-join the Marines after 911.

He's now being charged with pre-meditated murder for the death of two Iraqi.

His mother has a website here (http://www.defendthedefenders.org/pages/1/index.htm)
 and there are quite a few news stories and blogs about it.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=42896
http://www.vaconservative.com/archives/2005/02/14/marine-lt-ilario-pantano-charged-with-murder/

From what I've googled (http://www.google.com/search?q=Ilario+Pantano) so far, it seems that there are people screaming about this on both the left and the right.

Title: Support the troops?
Post by: lasersailor184 on February 28, 2005, 03:55:03 PM

Maybe I'm missing some piece of information, but why are they prosecuting this guy?

Title: Support the troops?
Post by: Eagler on February 28, 2005, 04:01:09 PM

he will be found innocent

Title: Support the troops?
Post by: lasersailor184 on February 28, 2005, 04:02:46 PM

Unfortunate that this guy's record will forever be tarnished with this.

Title: Support the troops?
Post by: takeda on February 28, 2005, 04:10:40 PM

The most suspect part of the story is this:

"After setting up a security perimeter, Lt. Pantano took off the cuffs and had the two search the vehicle as he supervised. If it was booby-trapped, the Iraqis, not Marines, would pay the price."

I bet uncuffing already tied suspects and having them handling supposed weapons or explosives is against at least one (or maybe all) among: the Geneva convention, the UCMJ, the ROE for troops in Iraq or just plain common sense.

Don't put your prisoners in a position in which you could have to shoot them and you won't have to shoot them.

And the dead guys were clean after all...

Title: Support the troops?
Post by: Zulu7 on February 28, 2005, 04:17:30 PM

lol the avatar is great takeda.

Title: Support the troops?
Post by: Raider179 on February 28, 2005, 04:21:17 PM

Also, says the accuser says he relieved the other guards and sent them away, also shot the two in the back and then put a sign on their SUV. Only question I really got is do you really want the Iraqi's to search their own car? Arent they liable to set off the "said" booby trap?

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=42875