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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: simshell on February 28, 2005, 03:50:42 PM
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from what iv heard and read it seems that CV landings were a very hard feet to do in in WW2 and it still is today
but why in Aces high i can land a B26 JU88 Even a B24 on a CV and iv heard of lancasters and B17s and i can land almost all the planes in the planeset on a CV
heck if it was like this why not have those B25s after bombing japan come back and land back on the Hornet
:rolleyes:
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In Aces High CVs move in a strait line nice and level and there is no wind.
In real life CVs were bobing all over the place do to waves and aircraft where affeced by wind.
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And considering the fact that if we crash we just reup again.
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Originally posted by simshell
from what iv heard and read it seems that CV landings were a very hard feet to do in in WW2 and it still is today
but why in Aces high i can land a B26 JU88 Even a B24 on a CV and iv heard of lancasters and B17s and i can land almost all the planes in the planeset on a CV
heck if it was like this why not have those B25s after bombing japan come back and land back on the Hornet
:rolleyes:
Hey it took me 4 months to land on a cv, another 6 until i finnaly had the need to land a badly damaged b17 on one.
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Would the CV IRL be going full speed for landings?
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Originally posted by simshell
heck if it was like this why not have those B25s after bombing japan come back and land back on the Hornet
:rolleyes: [/B]
If i'm not mistaken,the B25's couldn't carry enough fuel for the return trip and second,we couldn't afford to lose a CV to Japan.
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
Would the CV IRL be going full speed for landings?
No CV's don't run full speed, they do try to turn into the wing to minimise the effect of it pushing the plane left or right. They also tried to maintain a set speed, going by the wind across the deck. With a 20 knot wind blowing stem to stern, and a CV doing 20 knots it adds up to a 40 knot wind to help hold them planes in the air.
The modern CV has it tuffer as it has an angled deck for the landing approuch, which makes it a bit tuougher to get the wind blowing strait down the flight path.
Always loved to go out on the "catwalks" and watch the recoveries. Night ops was unbelievable !!
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
Would the CV IRL be going full speed for landings?
yes , cv's always go full speed into the wind to give the A/C a low speed over the deck for both take off and landing.
i still can't land on CV, maybe 2 out of 5 if i pratice alot.
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I have heard the rumor of bomber guys landing B17's on CV's rearming and taking off again........but its just a rumor......
999000
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you know its possible 999000, just you lose your drones ;)
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Originally posted by john9001
yes , cv's always go full speed into the wind to give the A/C a low speed over the deck for both take off and landing.
I was station onboard the USS Eisenhower CVN69 for over two years, and I can count on one hand how many times they pushed that thing to full speed. The only other time that ship shook that much, was when it went into full reverse to stop as fast as it could.... still ran about a mile before it could stop :) It could knock you out of your bunk ! LOL!!
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Biggest key to landing on cv is to look at FAR end of boat as ya approach--if ya look at aft, ya will run into it, or pull back on stick at last moment, get high, then push stick forward and slam into deck. I regularly land LW planes and re-up, not tried a bomber tho;
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Drones, what does 999000 need drones for, he shoots me down just by looking in my direction....a demon that one is :)
Muttman
Sick Puppies
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landing and taking off in lancs from a CV can be done in fact for me now its like takin a heavy f4u off u just need to know when to lower flaps.
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I still think our battle group drives too fast...if they'd move slower, it would be harder to land I recon.
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if it were setup with rl complexity and difficulties, many more would be complaining how impossible/complex it is to land on cv than the few who are complaining on how easy it is
imagine having to turn cv everytime you land/takeoff?
it's easy in PF too, but it is also FUN
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Originally posted by MaddogJoe
I was station onboard the USS Eisenhower CVN69 for over two years, and I can count on one hand how many times they pushed that thing to full speed. The only other time that ship shook that much, was when it went into full reverse to stop as fast as it could.... still ran about a mile before it could stop :) It could knock you out of your bunk ! LOL!!
i think we are talking WW2 cv's here, no catipults, no angled deck.
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
Would the CV IRL be going full speed for landings?
What speed a real CV will be making depends upon wind conditions. Less wind equals more speed and vice versa.
We don't have surface winds. Can you imagine the chinese fire drill if it were required to turn the CV into the wind in the MA? We don't have a rolling and pitching deck. We don't have wind burble off of the ship's island to toss planes about. It's easy to land on the AH CVs. You are not being graded for each landing either. We have guys pickling rockets and bombs on the flight deck. In general, our CV experience is far from real life.
What we do have is a strange frictionless flight deck and arresting cables that act like slingshots.
My regards,
Widewing
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Originally posted by john9001
i think we are talking WW2 cv's here, no catipults, no angled deck.
John, American WWII CVs did have catapults and they were frequently used when the deck was full. Little CVs used cats more often due to the short flight deck. At Saipan, squadrons of USAAF P-47s were catapulted off. See below.
(http://home.att.net/~historyzone/P-47catapult.JPG)
My regards,
Widewing