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Title: Skuzzy thanks once again
Post by: Heretic on February 28, 2005, 10:10:08 PM

Roy,

Thanks for the phone call this morning 28 Feb.   I appreciate it and I did what you said and I connected right away to the game.

Funny thing is, I shut down Zone Alarm and lots of other processes under Task Manager all the time.  I wonder if ZA still runs even tho I shut it down in TM?   I just deleted the whole program. I only had the trial version anyways so its no biggie.

Anyways,  I'm up and running thanks to you.    

Thanks again,
SEgunner

Title: Skuzzy thanks once again
Post by: Skuzzy on March 01, 2005, 04:17:04 PM

You are welcome.

Killing Zone Alarm in the task manager is not a good way to do it.  It leaves the network stack with ZA still in control of it due to the way firewalls hook the network layer.

Title: Skuzzy thanks once again
Post by: Heretic on March 01, 2005, 10:36:57 PM

ummm yeah, what you said!   That was as clear as mud!

I'll take your word for it.   I don't have the skills and knowhow of all things Computer.          

Thanks all the same.        One day I'll understand computer jargon.

Title: Skuzzy thanks once again
Post by: Schutt on March 02, 2005, 02:49:32 AM

normal:
internet --> ipstack -->windows-->ah2

firewalled:
internet-->ipstack(modified)-->windows--ah2


when you run any firewall, it does not only run the firewall programm it also runs and controlls a modified ipstack.

Now when you shoot the firewall the modified ipstack still running but uncontrolled.

Save way is to switch it off then uninstall it then reboot.

P.S. Ok sorry this was a blunt simplification. Look up "OSI Modell" in google. Firewall is in network layer and transport layer. It modifies those layers... so generally speaking the firewall should be provided by the Operation System, but the XP firewall is pretty bad to setup. Alternately the firewall can be Hardware wise, like on some motherboards now possible, or external.

Title: Skuzzy thanks once again
Post by: Heretic on March 06, 2005, 07:32:41 PM

Schutt,

Thank you.  I will look that up and see what it is all about.