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Title: anti alisasing
Post by: 68DevilM on March 01, 2005, 06:59:44 PM

i turned it from aplication preference to on at 6x

and wow talk about a difference it made.

smooth as a baby's butt now

give it a whirl

Title: anti alisasing
Post by: eilif on March 01, 2005, 10:03:18 PM

frame rate get a hit?

Title: anti alisasing
Post by: Octavius on March 01, 2005, 10:07:26 PM

I could never, ever fly without AA.  Jaggies are a curse!

Title: anti alisasing
Post by: Heretic on March 01, 2005, 10:15:18 PM

I have a GeForce 5200 128MB PCI card.  

2.2ghz celeron
80MB HD
512 MB RAM

would this anti alisasing work for me?

Title: anti alisasing
Post by: Octavius on March 01, 2005, 10:31:00 PM

Couldnt hurt to give it a try.  Even 2x helps.

Title: anti alisasing
Post by: mechanic on March 01, 2005, 10:35:09 PM

where are the options in windows for this stuff?

Title: anti alisasing
Post by: eilif on March 02, 2005, 12:08:46 AM

what would be the more practical way to get a graphical improvement, up the resolution from 800 by 600 to 1024 by 768 or to use the anti aliasing.

Title: anti alisasing
Post by: plank on March 02, 2005, 12:34:36 AM

Quote

Originally posted by mechanic
where are the options in windows for this stuff?

Right-click your background -> properties -> settings -> advanced -> and then it depends on your card from there. You should have some card-specific tabs.

Title: anti alisasing
Post by: plank on March 02, 2005, 12:36:21 AM

Quote

Originally posted by eilif
what would be the more practical way to get a graphical improvement, up the resolution from 800 by 600 to 1024 by 768 or to use the anti aliasing.

Definately use anti-aliasing. Resolution won't get rid of the jagged lines.

Title: anti alisasing
Post by: mechanic on March 02, 2005, 12:44:00 AM

thanks plank

Title: anti alisasing
Post by: eilif on March 02, 2005, 12:44:50 AM

ill give it a try, the question was mainly for which one is  more efficiant procesing wise.  got about 30 fps so i dont have alot to play with.

Title: anti alisasing
Post by: eilif on March 02, 2005, 01:56:22 AM

wow works wonders, and still holds good frame rate, i have it set for 4x, and there is something called temporal inti iliasing turned on as well, anyone know what this is?


 also do games have to be compatible with anti iliasing? seems ah works alot beter with it visualy.

Title: anti alisasing
Post by: mechanic on March 02, 2005, 03:55:21 AM

all i can say is WOW!

no more jagged horizons

no more square wings at D400

no more fuzzy stuff



"I can see clearly now my anti aliasing is on! I can shoot all LA7s in my way!"

Title: anti alisasing
Post by: 68DevilM on March 02, 2005, 07:06:18 AM

Quote

Originally posted by eilif
what would be the more practical way to get a graphical improvement, up the resolution from 800 by 600 to 1024 by 768 or to use the anti aliasing.

i use 1024x768 and 6x for my aa.

havent noticed frame rate drops, but i only tried it offline and while editing the film i made....last night..but god it sure looks alot better.

Title: anti alisasing
Post by: Eagler on March 02, 2005, 07:18:53 AM

what about your AF setting?

should that still be disabled?

Title: anti alisasing
Post by: Octavius on March 02, 2005, 08:33:40 AM

The thing about AA is that it will use a ton more video memory.  The more smoothing done requires multiple textures to be drawn.  

As for Anisotropic Filtering, Skuzzy has said it does nothing for AH and said to leave it disabled.  But I have it set for 4x anyway.

Title: anti alisasing
Post by: 68DevilM on March 02, 2005, 09:15:43 AM

i enabled it and notice a huge difference, ill try it in the ma tonight and see how it efshrecks lag and frame rates

Title: anti alisasing
Post by: eilif on March 02, 2005, 10:35:58 AM

does anti iliasing have to be supported by the game? i cant get it to work for some.

Title: anti alisasing
Post by: Octavius on March 02, 2005, 10:42:38 AM

What brand/model video card do you have?  Have the latest drivers installed?

Make sure you're setting Direct3D AA and not OpenGL.

Right click desktop > properties > Settings > advanced > (For ATI cards) Advanced 3D tab > Full Screen Anti Aliasing...

Amount of vidmem required varies directly  with resolution and amount of AA.  I think the max AA at 1280x1024 is only 6x, while the max at 1024x768 is 8x.  

Dunno about your system, but give it a whirl.  If it chokes, tune it down a notch.

Title: anti alisasing
Post by: StarOfAfrica2 on March 02, 2005, 12:40:53 PM

Quote

Originally posted by eilif
does anti iliasing have to be supported by the game? i cant get it to work for some.

Yes.

Title: anti alisasing
Post by: StarOfAfrica2 on March 02, 2005, 12:42:32 PM

Quote

Originally posted by Eagler
what about your AF setting?

should that still be disabled?

Just set it to application control.  AH will leave it off by default.  Some people can run it and it doesnt hurt, but others (like me) have some serious instability issues when using it in AH (doesnt happen all the time either).

Title: anti alisasing
Post by: BlueJ1 on March 02, 2005, 02:05:14 PM

I have a geforce 4. Mine dosnt go up to 6x but it goes to 4xS, whats that ? And is it worth a try ?

And whats Vertical sync ?

Title: anti alisasing
Post by: StarOfAfrica2 on March 02, 2005, 02:40:56 PM

Quote

Originally posted by BlueJ1
I have a geforce 4. Mine dosnt go up to 6x but it goes to 4xS, whats that ? And is it worth a try ?

And whats Vertical sync ?

Vsync matches your frame rates to your monitor's refresh rate (or tries to anyway).  It should be on.

Title: anti alisasing
Post by: eilif on March 02, 2005, 02:46:33 PM

ah i just had to set up the anti iliasing in Richtofens skies while in game.

Title: anti alisasing
Post by: plank on March 02, 2005, 04:09:56 PM

Quote

Originally posted by BlueJ1
I have a geforce 4. Mine dosnt go up to 6x but it goes to 4xS, whats that ? And is it worth a try ?

And whats Vertical sync ?

I could be mistaken but I think the 4xS is a nvidia, proprietary setting for anti-aliasing. If it's what I'm thinking of it's what they suggest you use.

Title: anti alisasing
Post by: BlueJ1 on March 02, 2005, 04:12:00 PM

Yes, downloaded a new nvidia driver awhile back.

Title: Re: anti alisasing
Post by: Overlag on March 02, 2005, 07:54:03 PM

Quote

Originally posted by 68DevilM
i turned it from aplication preference to on at 6x

and wow talk about a difference it made.

smooth as a baby's butt now

give it a whirl

thats wierd 6x should kill your fps...sounds like 6x is also disabled, as it needs too much memory..........

i know some people found this with HL2, they couldnt run at x2, but x6 was really fast....but they didnt relise it had been forced to x0 since it had run out of memory.

Title: anti alisasing
Post by: Mobius0077 on March 02, 2005, 08:04:30 PM

Wait, where exactly is it located in the settings?

Title: anti alisasing
Post by: Octavius on March 02, 2005, 08:14:31 PM

This is my setup.  I have the Omega drivers installed.  My card is an ATI X800.  

(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/52_1109815944_aa.jpg)

Nvidia guys, your control panel may look something like this:

(http://www.flightsim.com/review/alien/NVidia%20Control1_s.jpg)

Title: anti alisasing
Post by: 68DevilM on March 02, 2005, 09:31:44 PM

noticed some stutters in flight and when useing hatrick?