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Title: Why not 2 countries?
Post by: BALSUR on March 02, 2005, 03:20:12 AM
Why don't we just have 2 countries? It seems like 1 country just keeps getting the crap beat out of it. It's not the same country everytime either one TOD is this one and the next it's that one. Seems like the 3rd country is nothing more than a perkie hunting place for those who more around to whatever country has the best advantages.

In WW2 it was allies verses axis. The knights, rooks and bishops were chess pieces. Why don't we set up an area thats more USA/british verses german/japan.

Right now, I think the only ones enjoying the game are those who country swap to get more kills or to run in the pack.
Title: Why not 2 countries?
Post by: Jackal1 on March 02, 2005, 05:12:23 AM
There were flowers and a monument placed on this horse`s gravesite a long time ago. The plot gets visited often, but you always leave with an empty feeling. :D
Title: Why not 2 countries?
Post by: Charge on March 02, 2005, 05:39:46 AM
"In WW2 it was allies verses axis."

That is the reason why not. This is not war and such grouping would further induce negative behaviour on boards than an occasional mole poking of the defects on axis/allied aircraft.

I think it would be a bad idea. In scenarios we have two sides. Lets keep it that way.

edit: I mean being in two camps is more dividing than being in three camps. Psychologically speaking...

-C+
Title: Why not 2 countries?
Post by: DREDIOCK on March 02, 2005, 07:34:54 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Charge
"In WW2 it was allies verses axis."

That is the reason why not. This is not war and such grouping would further induce negative behaviour on boards than an occasional mole poking of the defects on axis/allied aircraft.

I think it would be a bad idea. In scenarios we have two sides. Lets keep it that way.

-C+


Dont see what one has to do with the other.
I've alway been a proponent of a 2 country system with all planes available to each side.

Its been claimed its been tried before and didnt work. But the only place I've ever seen it tried was in Airwarrior Allies vrs Axis arena.

And there the plane choices were limited to that for each side. Being allied planes only for allied side and axis planes only for axis side.

I've never seen it tried with the full planeset available for each side.

So untill I have seen it tried that way I personally wont buy buy into the thought  that it wont work at least as well as the current 3 country system. Which always boils down to the proverbial gangbang anyway.
Typically against whichever country is in the southeaster portion of whichever map is up
Title: Why not 2 countries?
Post by: Ghosth on March 02, 2005, 08:59:25 AM
It was also tried in Warbirds, in the so called "Historical Arena" way back when.

I believe its currently the main arena for WB. And we all know how successful THEY are.

Frankly they've all been tried, 2, 3, 4 countrys. They all have problems. HT has flown in all 3 major venues, and built 2 of the 3.  The fact that HTC decided on a 3 country system tells me its got fewer problems than the alternatives.
Title: Why not 2 countries?
Post by: Fongman on March 02, 2005, 09:07:26 AM
AXIS attack AXIS................
BF109 v.s. FW190......
Title: Why not 2 countries?
Post by: Redd on March 02, 2005, 03:58:11 PM
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Dont see what one has to do with the other.
I've alway been a proponent of a 2 country system with all planes available to each side.

Its been claimed its been tried before and didnt work. But the only place I've ever seen it tried was in Airwarrior Allies vrs Axis arena.

And there the plane choices were limited to that for each side. Being allied planes only for allied side and axis planes only for axis side.

I've never seen it tried with the full planeset available for each side.

So untill I have seen it tried that way I personally wont buy buy into the thought  that it wont work at least as well as the current 3 country system. Which always boils down to the proverbial gangbang anyway.
Typically against whichever country is in the southeaster portion of whichever map is up



WB runs like that.

The only people left there are the hardcore realists and the Mac users.

One of  biggest problems is the angst that develops between the axis and allies caused by the constant whining , and *****ing over the flight models.  Someone will always believe  the other side has the uber planes  etc etc

Go to the CT  and you will see some evidence of it here.

With 3 countries , same planes , everyone chooses from the same plane base - less *****ing.
Title: Why not 2 countries?
Post by: SlapShot on March 02, 2005, 04:08:44 PM
I prefer Captain Crunch over Coco Puffs.
Title: Why not 2 countries?
Post by: DREDIOCK on March 02, 2005, 06:41:35 PM
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Originally posted by Redd
WB runs like that.

The only people left there are the hardcore realists and the Mac users.

One of  biggest problems is the angst that develops between the axis and allies caused by the constant whining , and *****ing over the flight models.  Someone will always believe  the other side has the uber planes  etc etc

Go to the CT  and you will see some evidence of it here.

With 3 countries , same planes , everyone chooses from the same plane base - less *****ing.


Im afraid yoru not getting what Im saying.
Im not for a A V A type arena. I'm for a 2 country arena with full planesets available for each side.
Basically
Im for what we have now but with only 2 countries instead of  3.
Which as far as I have seen hasnt been tried

Cant argue over which side has the uber planes if each side has the same planes available to it
Title: Why not 2 countries?
Post by: Sp4de on March 02, 2005, 07:07:09 PM
how about everyone can make a country ? i already picked a island out the spades will pwn you:lol



im really not kidding back in ah i picked out a island and named it.. i loved that island *tear* *hand on heart*
Title: Why not 2 countries?
Post by: Redd on March 02, 2005, 09:13:52 PM
Quote
Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Im afraid yoru not getting what Im saying.
Im not for a A V A type arena. I'm for a 2 country arena with full planesets available for each side.
Basically
Im for what we have now but with only 2 countries instead of  3.
Which as far as I have seen hasnt been tried

Cant argue over which side has the uber planes if each side has the same planes available to it



You are correct , pardon my reading comprehension.
Title: Why not 2 countries?
Post by: Flit on March 02, 2005, 09:30:45 PM
Nope, won't work. Too many people would migrate to the winning side.
Title: Why not 2 countries?
Post by: Karnak on March 02, 2005, 10:26:00 PM
B-17G
B-24J
B-26B
Boston Mk III
Lancaster Mk III

vs

Ju88A-4
Ki-67



Hmmm, that looks fair.  The Axis bombers can carry torps, that makes it all even. ;)
Title: Why not 2 countries?
Post by: XrightyX on March 02, 2005, 10:26:37 PM
Quote
Originally posted by SlapShot
I prefer Captain Crunch over Coco Puffs.


But Coco Puffs makes the milk chocolicious.  Captain Crunch with the extra Crunch Berries...that's a step up, but still no Coco Puffs.
Title: Why not 2 countries?
Post by: wetrat on March 02, 2005, 10:37:14 PM
3 countries provides VARIETY. With 2 countries, there is one front, and no variety. You have no choice where you fight... there will probably only be one at a time. With 3, there are 2 fronts, providing more options and variety. This is a good thing.
Title: Why not 2 countries?
Post by: Kev367th on March 02, 2005, 11:13:45 PM
Having only played AH, how does 4 countries work out, ever been tried?
Title: Why not 2 countries?
Post by: Cooley on March 03, 2005, 03:43:11 AM
#'s Balance can affect 2 countries much more negative then 3, and may actually discourage side switching...because there would be so much more of a rivalry

3 countries is best.

4 countries.... the runt country gets reset twice a day

Axis-Allies set up... good for Theatre arenas and Scenarios.

was kinda fun in WB's using a rolling plane set though...
First week of tour Axis kicked arse w/ the 109s.110s Zekes and Ju88s,,,,,,,,by the second week the Big allied Buffs started showing up,and there were like 4 or 5 very organized Bomber squads (i was in 550th)
they would pretty much flatten the Axis fields and industry for the rest on the tour, though there were still alot of good fighter matchups
Title: Why not 2 countries?
Post by: straffo on March 03, 2005, 03:55:51 AM
Quote
Originally posted by XrightyX
But Coco Puffs makes the milk chocolicious.  Captain Crunch with the extra Crunch Berries...that's a step up, but still no Coco Puffs.


Captain Crunch roll and climb better.
Perk Captain Crunch !
Title: Why not 2 countries?
Post by: JB88 on March 03, 2005, 04:06:24 AM
Quote
Originally posted by XrightyX
But Coco Puffs makes the milk chocolicious.  Captain Crunch with the extra Crunch Berries...that's a step up, but still no Coco Puffs.


dudes, the monster cereals, frankenberry, count chocula and the all powerful booberry put coco puffs to shame...
though peanut butter cap't crunch rocks.


my .o2.
Title: Why not 2 countries?
Post by: Shane on March 03, 2005, 06:45:44 AM
dam noobs...  you'll eventually discover apple jacks is where it's at becuase you don't even need milk!
Title: Why not 2 countries?
Post by: Jackal1 on March 03, 2005, 08:19:35 AM
In a recent poll it was found that 9 out of 10 of JOC`s sheep preferred Lucky Charms.
Title: Why not 2 countries?
Post by: DREDIOCK on March 03, 2005, 04:17:52 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Flit
Nope, won't work. Too many people would migrate to the winning side.


Hmmm kinda like what happens now?
Title: Why not 2 countries?
Post by: SlapShot on March 03, 2005, 05:51:33 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Shane
dam noobs...  you'll eventually discover apple jacks is where it's at becuase you don't even need milk!


Apple Jacks are for no0bs !!!
Title: Why not 2 countries?
Post by: JB88 on March 03, 2005, 05:53:12 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Shane
dam noobs...  you'll eventually discover apple jacks is where it's at becuase you don't even need milk!


any of the triad of monster cereals are just as good without milk.

don't be afraid of the monsters.

they are your friends.

(http://www.derok.net/derok/images/classics/chocula%20and%20friends.gif)
Title: Why not 2 countries?
Post by: FBBone on March 03, 2005, 06:04:32 PM
I agree with JB88 on this one, as he is an excellent "pilot" and obviously has exquisette taste.  Monster cereal is the way to go on this one......and there are three, not two, not four, but three to pick from.  Just as it should be.:aok
Title: Why not 2 countries?
Post by: JB88 on March 03, 2005, 06:52:21 PM
most grateful bone. if ever i were to rise to your level of pilotry, i would have the great fortune of being one of the few who have multiple naked chicks delivering my monster cereals to me in bed.

one can only aspire to such greatness.



88
Title: Why not 2 countries?
Post by: JB73 on March 03, 2005, 08:26:36 PM
boo-berry or whatever always seemed ghey to me even as a kid. never ate them once
Title: Why not 2 countries?
Post by: Flit on March 03, 2005, 08:28:41 PM
Quote
Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Hmmm kinda like what happens now?

 Yep, but worse
Title: Why not 2 countries?
Post by: RTSigma on March 03, 2005, 09:22:52 PM
No one likes grape nuts with sugar? ITS DELICIOUS!
Title: Why not 2 countries?
Post by: DREDIOCK on March 04, 2005, 12:08:51 AM
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Originally posted by Flit
Yep, but worse


BS

what you have now is both two countries end up ganging on 1. with players jumping to the sides they think  might win.

Hence tonight both Knights and Bish each had close to 200 players.

with the bulk of the knights and bish attacking rooks.

Might as well just have two countries. The end result is the same
Title: Why not 2 countries?
Post by: SlapShot on March 04, 2005, 12:14:41 AM
Kelloggs Frosted Flakes ... they're GRRRRRRRRRRRRREAT !!!
Title: Why not 2 countries?
Post by: FBBone on March 04, 2005, 01:31:34 AM
PERK THE FROSTED FLAKES!!!!  AT LEAST 120!! THEY ARE A MENACE AND SHOULD BE DEALT WITH AS SUCH.
Title: Why not 2 countries?
Post by: Silat on March 04, 2005, 01:36:04 AM
Quote
Originally posted by SlapShot
I prefer Captain Crunch over Coco Puffs.



Slap do you remember the cereal "JETS"?

                     :D
Title: Why not 2 countries?
Post by: 101ABN on March 04, 2005, 03:53:56 AM
nooo, friuty pebbles is the best.... should be perked


Quote
Originally posted by SlapShot
I prefer Captain Crunch over Coco Puffs.