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Title: Book Recomendations
Post by: Sikboy on March 02, 2005, 04:06:03 PM
Ok, so I'm two classes away from Spring Break. During the School Year I don't get a lot of voluntary reading done, so I like to try and cram in a good book or two during the off time.

I'm thinking about:
"The Name of the Rose" by Umberto Eco
"The Fall" by Albert Camus
(WTF??? why all the Euros?)

"Tortilla Flat" by John Steinbeck
or "Tender is the night" by F. Scott Fitzgerald.

These are all works by authors I've enjoyed in the past (well, except for Camus' "The Stranger" what a stinker, I think that one lost something in translation lol). And I imagine that any of them would be fun.

Does anyone have any other recomendations? I'll read damn near anything.

-Sik
Title: Book Recomendations
Post by: Mini D on March 02, 2005, 04:11:14 PM
The Name of the Rose was a decent movie.  Never read the book.
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Post by: mosgood on March 02, 2005, 04:18:04 PM
"Atlas Shrugged" Ayn Rayn

"How to win Friends and influence people" Dale Carnegy

"Catcher in the Rye" J.D. Salinger

"The salesman of the century" Ron Popeil (woops  how'd that get in there!  My infomercial background is getting in the way)
Title: Book Recomendations
Post by: OIO on March 02, 2005, 04:32:01 PM
Depends on what kind of books you like man.

Ive read 'In the Name of the Rose' when I was in senior high school. And mind you , im a HEAVY reader.

That book bored me to tears. I finished it just because my pride made me do it.


I always reccomend the DUNE books written by FRANK HERBERT (not the prequels written by his son after Frank's death.. his son cant write worth snot).

The DUNE books seem to many as sci-fi stuff, but its really not sci-fi in the way you think of asimov (I, Robot, Foundation books) or Heinlein (Starship Troopers, The Left Hand of Darkness).. Herbert takes religion, sociology, psychology, politics and human nature and uses them to move an incredibly complex story along.. the only 'sci-fi' elements are that its based 10k+ years in the future and there's space travel..thats it.  

If its sci-fi you like, you can look up the REALITY DYSFUNCTION novels (I forget the authors name).

Fantasy books you can look up DEATH GATE by Margaret Weis & Tracy Hickman... its not the same thing as their famous DRAGONLANCE books (which are corny as heck in my view since they just stole the stereotypes of the fantasy races and made the lame story around it, no matter how well written it was it was still LAME). Deaths Gate is an excellent set of books imo.


You could also try reading books from other cultures or 'based' on other cultures.

SHOGUN (James Clavell) is an excellent book. Written by a foreigner, its about a British sailor who gets stranded in Japan's feudal era.  Fiction

Tale of Genji (Japan) is AMAZING in detail of life in feudal japan, as written by the Lady Genji, a member of the imperial court. Non-Fiction.

TAIKO (Japan) narrates the life of Hideyoshi Toyotomi; the man who united all of Japan under one rule.  Historical fiction (aka, facts and events in the book are historically accurate, the characters in book are based on what was known of the personalities of the historical figures)

100 Years of Solitude (Colombia) by Gabriel Garcia Marquez is the story of a family before, during, and after the time known as 'La Violencia' (The Violence) .. Colombia's civil war. Follows the lives of several generations of the family in those times. Very good book. Fiction

War and Peace .. this one i wont even try to summarize. Its an effing big book.

MAUS (graphic novel by ART SPIEGELMAN) one of the hardest 'books' ive read.. its about the Holocaust. I think this graphic novel should be required 'reading' in all high schools.
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Post by: hawker238 on March 02, 2005, 04:33:44 PM
I liked both Catcher in the Rye and Maus.
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Post by: straffo on March 02, 2005, 04:34:04 PM
I don't know if the translation are good but I would say any book by : Georges Perec , Patrick Modianno or Joseph Kessel.
Title: Book Recomendations
Post by: Sikboy on March 02, 2005, 04:38:55 PM
Quote
Originally posted by OIO

SHOGUN (James Clavell) is an excellent book. Written by a foreigner, its about a British sailor who gets stranded in Japan's feudal era.  Fiction

100 Years of Solitude (Colombia) by Gabriel Garcia Marquez is the story of a family before, during, and after the time known as 'La Violencia' (The Violence) .. Colombia's civil war. Follows the lives of several generations of the family in those times. Very good book. Fiction



I'm not passing judgement on you in any way, simply making an observation: You and my Mother have the same taste in books :p

Someday I'll get around to reading Dune, but not next week. The above two books have promise though. As does Atlas Shrugged.

Thanks guys, I appreciate all of the input.

-Sik
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Post by: Pongo on March 02, 2005, 04:41:18 PM
Enders Game, Orson Scott Card.

The Lord of the Rings. Cant remember who wrote it.
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Post by: Martlet on March 02, 2005, 04:41:25 PM
I enjoyed the W.E.B. Griffin "The Corps" series.
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Post by: OIO on March 02, 2005, 04:50:28 PM
Lord of the Rings was a horrible set of books imo. I just cant stand Tolkien's writing style. He takes like 20 freaking pages to describe a room and all the crap its filled with, puts a little move-along the storyline dialog and then moves on..and all that you read about the room was irrelevant. Makes me sick.

LOTR is the first case ever for me where the movies are better than the books lol.

Sikboy: get your mom a copy of Tale of Genji and TAIKO... those books put SHOGUN to shame. :)

Though im a bit ashamed to admit it, I hold this fascination for folk stories and fairy tales... or books based on them or written LIKE if they were. Some look like kids books but they really hold a different meaning when you read them as an adult:


The Little Prince (France)

The Never Ending Story (yes its a book dammit)

Stories from the Middle Ages (i dont remember if this is the exact name of the book. Its not a collection of stories like beaowulf or king arthur crapola... it was a collection of stories and songs from the middle ages along with historical background of them)

You can also check out Sir Winston Churchill's 'The Second World War' .. its a BIG set of books but the man writes them in detail... theres lots of info there if you like to read about WW2.
Title: Book Recomendations
Post by: Halo on March 02, 2005, 04:50:59 PM
Top of the World  (Hans Ruesch)
The Dwarf (Par Lagerkvist)
A Garden of Sand (Earl Thompson)
Staring at the Sun (Julian Barnes)
The Songlines (Bruce Chatwin)
Title: Book Recomendations
Post by: JB88 on March 02, 2005, 05:13:58 PM
i prefer "foucault's pendulum", over name of the rose.

eco is a great writer.

i aslo prefered the "fountainhead" by ayn rand.  a pure perspective changer for me.

rand is definately a good branch.  she considered herself a philosopher and in many ways, writes like a male.  if you've ever seen her, you'd know why.  lol.

i am also a fan of an obscure czech writer named milan kundera.  its sort of like watching foreign films reading non american authors, you have to like the difference.

there are the staples too.

at your age, i was reading alot of herman hesse.

camus is good, though often flatly translated.

if you are feeling really strange pick up some w.s. burroughs or kafka.

read howl by ginsburg.

any of these belong to a vey long vein.
Title: Re: Book Recomendations
Post by: Krusher on March 02, 2005, 05:15:13 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Sikboy
I'm thinking about:
"The Name of the Rose" by Umberto Eco

-Sik


Anything by Umberto Eco is going to be long winded and for the most part dull.


I hate to admit it, but pretty much all I get to read now days is tech books.  Here is one I have read, its a nice WWII book from (and about) a Canadian pilot.  Its easy reading and very informative.

"A thousand shall fall" by Murray Penden
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Post by: Skydancer on March 02, 2005, 05:16:51 PM
"The Young Lions"

Irwin shaw

A Classic.

"Early One Morning"

Robert Ryan

"Pegasus Bridge"

Stephen Ambrose

Just a few of the many good books I've read recently
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Post by: Scrap on March 02, 2005, 05:18:49 PM
The Company (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0142002623/qid=1109805422/sr=2-1/ref=pd_ka_b_2_1/102-1788260-0167329)  by Robert Little.  900 page book and it was so good I read it in a weeks time. :aok
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Post by: Skydancer on March 02, 2005, 05:22:27 PM
"Finest Hour"

Tim Clayton and Phil Craig

Most of my reading material is WW2 stuff at the mo.
Title: Book Recomendations
Post by: Shuckins on March 02, 2005, 05:35:07 PM
Snort! The "classics" are overrated.

Read anything by Stephen Hunter.   His writing will put hair on your chest.
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Post by: Sandman on March 02, 2005, 05:41:35 PM
Anything by Neal Stephenson (http://www.nealstephenson.com/).
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Post by: Nash on March 02, 2005, 05:54:59 PM
Dago reads books. He told me that once. Even (mistakenly) scolded me for watching TV and not reading books. It turns out he reads everything from war books to... well, war books. Tom Clancy, whatever. I'm sure he could give you some great recommendations. Not that you really need them... your choices are excellent.
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Post by: Octavius on March 02, 2005, 05:59:16 PM
Quantum Psychology by Robert Anton Wilson.
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Post by: Nash on March 02, 2005, 06:09:34 PM
Quote
Originally posted by JB88
"...an obscure czech writer named milan kundera."

:confused:


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Title: Book Recomendations
Post by: Tumor on March 02, 2005, 06:52:21 PM
"A Peace To End All Peace", very informative.
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Post by: DREDIOCK on March 02, 2005, 07:04:53 PM
Here's a good one if you can find it. Bout 10-15 years old called

"Adrift"

True story about a guy whos sailboat sank and he was stuck adrift at sea for 76 days.

Great book
Title: Book Recomendations
Post by: JB88 on March 02, 2005, 07:06:51 PM
why the :confused:  nash?
Title: Book Recomendations
Post by: Dune on March 02, 2005, 07:52:51 PM
"Hell in a Very Small Place: The Fall of Dien Bien Phu" by Bernard Fall. (A must read book.  Can't recommend it enough to any student of military history)

"The First Day on the Somme" by Middlebrook.

The Falkenberg series by Jerry Pournelle (West of Honor, Prince of Mercenaries, Prince of Sparta and one other)

Anything by H. Beam Piper (Personally recommend Uller Uprising, The Cosmic Computer and The Lone Star Planet)

The Iron Tower Trilogy by Dennis L. McKiernan (yeah, it's a takeoff of LOTR, but they're pretty good)
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Post by: midnight Target on March 02, 2005, 08:01:33 PM
I think you should study more.
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Post by: greentail on March 02, 2005, 08:03:58 PM
No Parachute by Arthur G. Lee -- a really good read. Most WWI books are about the aces. Lee was just a run of the mill fighter pilot, also a pretty good writer. It gives you a real feel for what it was like flying around in a Sopwith 1 1/2 Strutter.

Please, read that book, you won't regret it!

The Seven Pillars of Wisdom by T.E. Lawrence-- Lawrence of Arabia had a classical education and it shows in his writing. Still, it is thrilling read in places, great stories in there. And extremely relevant to what is happening in the Middle-east today. The roots of todays "problem" in iraq were planted in 1917, and Lawrence knew that.

There's places where you substitute American for Turk and it's down right scary.
Title: Book Recomendations
Post by: Eagler on March 02, 2005, 08:08:04 PM
reader's digest - any month will do
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Post by: vorticon on March 02, 2005, 08:23:31 PM
robin hobbs liveship traders and farseer trilogies are good, david farlands runelords is good...harry turtledoves earthgrip is absolutly great...



"I always reccomend the DUNE books written by FRANK HERBERT (not the prequels written by his son after Frank's death.. his son cant write worth snot). "


uggg, nooooo...the DUNE books are horrible, the only decent characters got killed early on, the main characters that were not abhorrent were merely disgusting, the plotline was dry at best, and the only conclusion that would have been appropriate was the planet getting deathstarred in slow motion.

his sons prequels are pretty damn good though, most characters were likeable, or at least decent enough to be indifferent. the plots are interesting. the only thing i didnt like (about the first book anyway, havent read the others) was the ending, but that was merely because i'm used to multi book stories being reasonably self containing.

oh, and you can never go wrong with a encyclopedea
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Post by: Sikboy on March 02, 2005, 09:45:40 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Krusher
Anything by Umberto Eco is going to be long winded and for the most part dull.
 


Again, a lot of good recomendations here... I was expecting a lot more of the "Reader's digest" type responses lol.

I had a love/hate relationship with "The Island of the Day before" over the summer. The good parts were some of the best I've read, but man... END IT NOW BERT.... JUST STOP WRITING!!!

I think he warrents a second read, but from what's been posted here, I think I'll try Foucault's pendulum.

I was going to re-read some WWII History books, but decided I wanted something different. I spent most of my Adult life being looking down my nose at most fiction, so now in my 30's I'm discovering a lot of great stuff out there that most people found in their 20s.

Oh, and JB88, I think the :confused: is because he's not that obscure. Or at least I think many people are familiar with "The Unbearable lightness of being"


-Sik
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Post by: Nefarious on March 02, 2005, 09:49:05 PM
Siege.

By Russ Schnieder, Deceased.

Other Titles Include:

Madness Without End:Tales of Horror from the Russian Wilderness
Demyansk:More Tales of Horror from the Russian Wilderness
Gotterdamerung:1945

The only one I've read is Siege, But I'm dying to get my hands on the other titles.
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Post by: gofaster on March 03, 2005, 07:53:36 AM
Try  "Nazi Hunter: The Weisenthal File" (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/078671090X/qid=1109859527/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/002-9143893-3760009?v=glance&s=books&n=507846) by Levy for a non-fiction account of WW2 history, post-WW2 Cold War espionage, and the Holocaust.

An easier read is "The Sea Hunters" by Clive Cussler.  A good mix of history-based fiction and non-fiction as Mr. Cussler's organization searches for some of the most famous shipwrecks in history (and a few you probably didn't even know about). He opens each chapter with his interpretation of the events leading up to the catastrophe as if you were reading a novel.  Then he launches into how he conducted the investigation to locate the wreck.  Once you get started, you won't want to stop.

Read about it here (http://www.numa.net/books.html).  Its a good diversion from WW2 stuff.

Oh, and Ayn Rand's "Atlas Shrugged" is a good read that'll confirm your belief as an industrial capitalist.

I saw Frank Herbert's "Dune" trilogy as simply taking the medeival feudal system and wrapping in the context of science fiction, with strong ties to Arabic customs.
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Post by: indy007 on March 03, 2005, 07:58:56 AM
The Globe - William Shakespeare
The Science of Good and Evil - Michael Shermer
The Art of Deception - Kevin Mitnick
Xenos, Malleus, & Hereticus (the 3 books of the Eisenhorn Conspiracy) - Dan Abnett
Strategy: The Indirect Approach - Basil Henry Liddell Hart
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Post by: Krusher on March 03, 2005, 09:09:35 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Sikboy
I think he warrents a second read, but from what's been posted here, I think I'll try Foucault's pendulum.


-Sik



I never could finish that one.
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Post by: Boroda on March 03, 2005, 10:13:04 AM
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Originally posted by Dune

Anything by H. Beam Piper (Personally recommend Uller Uprising, The Cosmic Computer and The Lone Star Planet)


Lone Star Planet - I have read an ancient 35-cent paperback called "Planet for Texans", about a society where killing a politician was not a crime, is it the same book? I have a strong feeling I need to read it again...

BTW, that book had two authors, Beam Piper and someone else...
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Post by: bunch on March 03, 2005, 10:30:41 AM
Just get one of theose magazines with nake pictures of ladies
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Post by: Finrod on March 03, 2005, 11:01:25 AM
Krushger wrote: If its sci-fi you like, you can look up the REALITY DYSFUNCTION novels (I forget the authors name).

Peter F. Hamilton, I would recoomend it as well. Good series but very long and involved.
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Post by: gofaster on March 03, 2005, 12:01:55 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Dune
"Hell in a Very Small Place: The Fall of Dien Bien Phu" by Bernard Fall. (A must read book.  Can't recommend it enough to any student of military history)
 


I started reading "Street Without Joy" by Bernard Fall, which encompassed the entire conflict.  Great book.  I wish I hadn't gotten distracted when I was reading it.  I uncovered it the other day while digging around in my computer room and  I may get back to reading it now that you've sparked my interest again.
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Post by: Leslie on March 03, 2005, 12:26:11 PM
Green Mansions - W.H. Hudson

Twilight for the Gods - Ernest Gann
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Post by: Thrawn on March 03, 2005, 12:55:12 PM
I would like to also recommend Shogun and Ender's Game.  Both excellant books in my opinion.


I would also add "Godel, Escher, Bach", but it's certainly not light reading.
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Post by: Holden McGroin on March 03, 2005, 01:29:10 PM
"The Autobiography of Hank Williams"

I forget who wrote it.

Seriously, "The Elegant Universe", by Brian Greene...  don't wait for the movie.
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Post by: lazs2 on March 03, 2005, 02:30:18 PM
short stories... Babylon Revistited and Other Stories by Fitzgerald

Sci fi  Riverworld series.

any John dos pasos or ayn rand.

stuart kaminky's Toby Peters 1930'2 detective stories or his Russian inspector series.

oh.. A great one for a long read...  "A Soldier in the Great War" by Halprin.  

lazs
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Post by: JimBear on March 03, 2005, 02:34:12 PM
"Venus on the Half Shell" by Kilgore Trout

 you cant go wrong :cool:
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Post by: bunch on March 04, 2005, 12:15:47 AM
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Originally posted by JimBear
"Venus on the Half Shell" by Kilgore Trout

 you cant go wrong :cool:


That is great one, but i already mentioned it.
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Post by: Regular on March 04, 2005, 12:36:48 AM
Bah.

Any issue's of Mad magazine from the 70's and 80's.

Conan the Barbarian work just fine also.:cool:

Also Neuromancer by William Gibson.
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Post by: Sikboy on March 04, 2005, 08:17:50 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Nash
:confused:


(http://mc.clintock.com/second_floor/bookcase_1/ICON-images/unbearable_lightness_of_bei.jpg)


Winner!

Thank you everyone for your recomendations. I've always wanted to read this one. There's a line in one of my favorite movies:

"I've never 'been to Prague' but I know that thing... that stop shaving your armpits, read The Unbearable lightness of being fall in love with a sculpter and think "I never knew how bad American coffee was.'"  

Also, I've been drinking an inordinate ammount of Pilsner Urquel these past few weeks. Its a sign.

-Sik
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Post by: lazs2 on March 04, 2005, 09:57:21 AM
isn't that book the literary equivlent of a chick flick?

lazs
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Post by: gofaster on March 04, 2005, 10:05:11 AM
Quote
Originally posted by lazs2
isn't that book the literary equivlent of a chick flick?

lazs


I was going to say that, too, but my new handle hasn't officially been accepted into his squadron yet and I don't want to jeopardize my standing.
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Post by: lazs2 on March 04, 2005, 10:12:06 AM
so sick... did life get any better after you quit shaving your armpits?  

lazs
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Post by: JB88 on March 04, 2005, 10:33:52 AM
that particular book is based on the relationship between a don juan type brain surgeon in the period surrounding the soviet occupation of czechoslavakia if thats what you mean.

there are some great scenes with the tanks rolling in and the reactions of the people.

yes, it concens itself with love as one of its pretexts.

thomas, the main character must choose between his love of freedom v.  love for a woman (a photographer) who comes to him and loves him.  he must choose between his love of country and his love of personal expression.

it is a story about life.  both personal and social.  it is about the paranoia that takes place at the time...about thomas refusing to recind an article that he had written and for which he is threatened with losing his right to practice medicine if he does not do so.

it is about sabina, the sexual overtone who represents thomas's freedom and the choice that he makes regarding her.

it is a very good book.  he has others as well.  immortality, the book of laughter and fogetting, the joke...  et al.

the only reason lasz even recognizes the title is because it was made into a movie.

when i was much much younger, i walked out of the theater bored.  later i watched it again and enjoyed it.  guess thats what happens when you grow.

it is a matter of taste.

my own.  thanks.

- 88

btw lasz, the only reason that i can even respond to this is because someone quoted you.  you are still ignored and i never read your posts unless they are copied in on someone else's.  i can only imagine what sort of angry, judgemental  tripe you are spouting off about today, but im sure it is the same as it ever was.

have a nice day bud.  it's possible you know.



:)
Title: Book Recomendations
Post by: lazs2 on March 04, 2005, 10:37:02 AM
soo... 88 still shave his armpits or not?

Seems it is a thinly veiled romance novel.

and.... in 88's world... I guess it alright to respond to me if someone he doesn't have on ignore quotes me?   this is a very strange form of honesty huh?   like.... like a chick!

lazs
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Post by: gofaster on March 04, 2005, 11:04:10 AM
Quote
Originally posted by JB88
that particular book is based on the relationship between a don juan type brain surgeon in the period surrounding the soviet occupation of czechoslavakia if thats what you mean.

there are some great scenes with the tanks rolling in and the reactions of the people.

thomas, the main character, must choose between his love of freedom v.  love for a woman (a photographer) who comes to him and loves him.  he must choose between his love of country and his love of personal expression.
...

it is about sabina, the sexual overtone who represents thomas's freedom and the choice that he makes regarding her.

 


Oh, well, if it involves tanks and sex, maybe I'll read it after all!  :D

Seriously though, my understanding (from what I've heard, haven't seen the film, haven't picked up the book) is that its about personal introspection and coming to grips with one's morals and mortality.  So, my opinion has no merit other than I have other books to read that interest me more.
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Post by: JB88 on March 04, 2005, 11:48:59 AM
lol.  to each his own gofaster.

;)
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Post by: Sikboy on March 04, 2005, 11:53:22 AM
Quote
Originally posted by lazs2
so sick... did life get any better after you quit shaving your armpits?  

lazs


I don't know yet, it's only been a day.

But man, I can't believe how bad American beer is.

-Sik
Title: Book Recomendations
Post by: Dead Man Flying on March 04, 2005, 11:59:53 AM
SB, have you considered reading some Gabriel Garcia Marquez?  He's amazing in Spanish and brilliant even in translation.  I'd recommend One Hundred Years of Solitude, Life in the Time of Cholera, or The General in his Labyrinth.

The last two aren't too long and read quickly.  The first one is gonna take awhile.

-- Todd/Leviathn
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Post by: JB88 on March 04, 2005, 12:02:51 PM
ive read one hundred years of solitude.  excellent book.

havent read the others.  might just have to do that.
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Post by: genozaur on March 06, 2005, 02:23:10 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Sikboy
I don't know yet, it's only been a day.

But man, I can't believe how bad American beer is.

-Sik


And it's f-r-e-s-h. :D
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Post by: Dune on March 06, 2005, 06:14:12 PM
Quote
Originally posted by gofaster
I started reading "Street Without Joy" by Bernard Fall, which encompassed the entire conflict.  Great book.  I wish I hadn't gotten distracted when I was reading it.  I uncovered it the other day while digging around in my computer room and  I may get back to reading it now that you've sparked my interest again.


Fall was an excellent writer.  Street Without Joy is also an great book (And I love the titles he gave his books)  Street give a great overview of the mistakes the French made (and subsequently, many that the US made).  The one thing that really got me about Hell in a Very Small Place was the bravery of the Legionaires, even after they knew they'd been screwed.  Many of the troopers who were flown out injured volunteered to jump back in, even though they knew they couldn't win.  Just to be with their brothers.

It also gives an understanding of the sense of betrayal that they had when the war was over.  Add to that deGaul deciding to pull out of Algeria and you understand why they tried to kill him.  A decision that almost led to the end of the Legion.
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Post by: DREDIOCK on March 06, 2005, 07:52:55 PM
Here's one you will probably laugh at if you havent read it already.

"Treasure Island" In the original English vesion

Read this to each of my kids as a bedtime story (Chapter or two a night)
And enjoyed reading it every bit as much as they enjoyed having it read to them.

Damn good book
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Post by: plank on March 06, 2005, 08:38:30 PM
Anything by Chuck Palahniuk. He wrote 'Fight Club' although that is the only one I haven't read yet since I saw the movie first. I highly suggest 'Choke' for a starter.
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Post by: Skydancer on March 07, 2005, 06:04:49 AM
1984
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Post by: JB88 on March 07, 2005, 06:10:15 AM
animal farm too.
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Post by: Jackal1 on March 07, 2005, 07:15:53 AM
The 13th Valley by John M. Delvecchio.
Absolutely the best book I have ever read.
This book will get you so involved you will feel the strain and tiredness.
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Post by: Jackal1 on March 07, 2005, 07:31:45 AM
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Originally posted by Sikboy

But man, I can't believe how bad American beer is.
 


You just haven`t drank any Jackal`s Texas Titty Twister yet or Jackal`s Doomsday Dark. :D
Title: Book Recomendations
Post by: Suave on March 07, 2005, 07:39:34 AM
"The Illustrated Man"
Title: Book Recomendations
Post by: lazs2 on March 07, 2005, 08:05:22 AM
The deaf one said....

"btw lasz, the only reason that i can even respond to this is because someone quoted you. you are still ignored and i never read your posts unless they are copied in on someone else's. i can only imagine what sort of angry, judgemental tripe you are spouting off about today, but im sure it is the same as it ever was. "

Like I even care?  The man not only acts like I could care but seems to think that his being deaf is some sort of punishment for me?   What a strange world he lives in.. He couldn't respond to me so he put plugged his ears and went Naaaaa naaaaaa naaaa and now... he can't resist responding to me when others quote me.  How does that work?  some sort of "ignore" loophole for the terminaly dishonest?

And jb88... the only reason I am able to respond to you is because... well, because I was able to read what you wrote.

And.... the reason I know about the book is because a woman I know who has terrible taste in books loved it,.

lazs
Title: Book Recomendations
Post by: Jackal1 on March 07, 2005, 12:58:06 PM
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Originally posted by lazs2
The deaf one said....

"btw lasz, the only reason that i can even respond to this is because someone quoted you. you are still ignored and i never read your posts unless they are copied in on someone else's. i can only imagine what sort of angry, judgemental tripe you are spouting off about today, but im sure it is the same as it ever was. "

Like I even care?  The man not only acts like I could care but seems to think that his being deaf is some sort of punishment for me?   What a strange world he lives in.. He couldn't respond to me so he put plugged his ears and went Naaaaa naaaaaa naaaa and now... he can't resist responding to me when others quote me.  How does that work?  some sort of "ignore" loophole for the terminaly dishonest?

And jb88... the only reason I am able to respond to you is because... well, because I was able to read what you wrote.

And.... the reason I know about the book is because a woman I know who has terrible taste in books loved it,.

lazs



:D
Title: Book Recomendations
Post by: lazs2 on March 07, 2005, 02:20:53 PM
now you put him on the spot...

lazs
Title: Book Recomendations
Post by: Jackal1 on March 07, 2005, 04:59:26 PM
LOL

Muhahahahaaaaaa
Title: Book Recomendations
Post by: Lizard3 on March 08, 2005, 01:56:15 PM
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Originally posted by plank
Anything by Chuck Palahniuk. He wrote 'Fight Club' although that is the only one I haven't read yet since I saw the movie first. I highly suggest 'Choke' for a starter.


The book is better.

I also suggest:

Anna Karenina, Tolstoy for its look into pre revolution Russia

Generation Kill, by a reporter who went in with some Marines during the latest trip to Iraq.

The two historical fiction books about what could've/should've happend at Gettysburg and the aftermath during the Civil War by Newt G.

Enders Game by Orson Scott Card is a very good book.
Speaker For the Dead aint bad either.

Flyboys is excellent for the historical perspective it lays out. The story itself is good, but the author trys his best to put the Japanese pov into a lucid frame for us to view.

Forgotten Soldier is excellent as well, if not totally credible. A good look at war on the eastern front during WWII.
Title: Book Recomendations
Post by: JB88 on March 08, 2005, 02:13:34 PM
hitchhikers guide to the galaxy.

now! quickly!
Title: Book Recomendations
Post by: Chairboy on March 08, 2005, 02:31:55 PM
Ender's Game - Orson Scott Card
Atlas Shrugged - Ayn Rand
The 'Worldwar' series - Harry Turtledove
'Getaway Special' - Jerry Oltion (good read, imagine super cheap space travel, ala, radio shack, in almost current times).
Title: Book Recomendations
Post by: john9001 on March 08, 2005, 03:55:37 PM
it's spring break and you want to read a book? you can read books when your old like me , go party...
Title: Book Recomendations
Post by: Sikboy on March 08, 2005, 04:11:01 PM
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Originally posted by john9001
it's spring break and you want to read a book? you can read books when your old like me , go party...


The wife and kid would be sad if I went on a week long bender.

Not to mention I still have over an hour on the train to kill each day.

-Sik
Title: Book Recomendations
Post by: Seagoon on March 08, 2005, 05:25:10 PM
Here's a few from my past/present/recent reading list:

1) Fun Reading (Series):
The Sharpe Novels by Bernard Cornwell
The Richard Bolitho Novels by Alexander Kent
The Jack Aubrey (Master and Commander) series by Patrick O'Brien

2) Fun Reading (Non Series):
Bomber by Len Deighton
HMS Ulysses by Aleister McLean
Immediate Action by Andy McNabb
Luftwaffe Aces by Franz Kurowski
I Claudius by Robert Graves

3) Current Events/History
Taliban by Ahmed Rashid
Blackhawk Down by Mark Bowden
Killing Pablo by Mark Bowden
Jihad by Paul Fregosi
Islam Unveiled by Robert Spencer
The Memory Palace of Matteo Ricci
Tacitus - Annals
Suetonius - The Twelve Caesars

4) Comic Relief
Holidays in Hell by P.J. O'Rourke

5) Philosophy/Deep thought
How Should We Then Live? By Francis Schaeffer
Darwin's Black Box by Michael Behe
The Confessions of St. Augustine
The Institutes of Christian Religion by John Calvin

- SEAGOON
Title: Book Recomendations
Post by: Skydancer on March 08, 2005, 06:25:06 PM
Bomber by Len Deighton. An absolutely fantastic book. Riveting and deeply sad too.
Title: Book Recomendations
Post by: midnight Target on March 08, 2005, 06:56:14 PM
Some of my favorite light reading recently have been this guy's books. Can't believe lazs and his gun totin kin haven't been reading them:

Stephen Hunter
(http://www.stephenhunter.net/books/pointofimp.jpg)

(http://www.stephenhunter.net/books/blacklight.jpg)

(http://www.stephenhunter.net/books/time2hunt.jpg)
Title: Book Recomendations
Post by: JB88 on March 08, 2005, 07:06:11 PM
all quiet on the western front.
Title: Book Recomendations
Post by: lazs2 on March 09, 2005, 08:45:40 AM
MT.. I never heard of the guy but..

What about those books do you think would be so irresistable to me that you can't believe I am not reading em?


lazs
Title: Book Recomendations
Post by: midnight Target on March 09, 2005, 01:45:56 PM
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Originally posted by lazs2
MT.. I never heard of the guy but..

What about those books do you think would be so irresistable to me that you can't believe I am not reading em?


lazs


All about shooting, heros with guns, long range match type guys and Marine snipers. Very good books lazs.. I would recommend them to anyone.... even you. :D

Also like the guys writing style.

Bob Lee Swagger .... American hero.
Title: Book Recomendations
Post by: Boroda on March 09, 2005, 02:13:28 PM
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Some of my favorite light reading recently have been this guy's books. Can't believe lazs and his gun totin kin haven't been reading them:

Stephen Hunter


Are there any more books about Swager? Read all three you mentioned, in Russian translation, great adventure books. Depends on how fast you read, it's 1000+ pages in Russian ;) I read about 100 pages daily, so it took me about a week and some sleepless nights ;)
Title: Book Recomendations
Post by: midnight Target on March 09, 2005, 05:28:00 PM
There are some with his father as the main character.

Just as good IMHO.
Title: Book Recomendations
Post by: Aubrey on March 09, 2005, 05:49:36 PM
Master and Commander series Patrick O'Brien.
This a series of a ships captain n the Royal Navy during the early 1800s  and his friend

Jack Aubrey and Stephen Maturin


For a rollicking good time read  

John Ringo
A Hymn before battle , Gust Front, When the Devil Dances and Helles Faire.
Title: Book Recomendations
Post by: Boroda on March 10, 2005, 08:35:44 AM
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Originally posted by midnight Target
There are some with his father as the main character.

Just as good IMHO.


Not the second one when Bob Lee finds a general who killed his father with a night scope?

BTW, what was the name of a Soviet sniper in a third book? Solaratov? :lol
Title: Book Recomendations
Post by: Skydancer on March 10, 2005, 08:40:14 AM
Boroda try Enemy at the gates.
Title: Book Recomendations
Post by: Boroda on March 10, 2005, 09:09:18 AM
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Originally posted by Skydancer
Boroda try Enemy at the gates.


Are we talking about good books to read or about idiotic pseudohistorical movies? :rolleyes:
Title: Book Recomendations
Post by: Sikboy on March 14, 2005, 10:47:25 AM
Well, Spring Break is over.

I read "The Unbearable Lightness of Being" as well as Steinbeck's "The Moon is Down" (a short novel that was written as propaganda for Nazi Occupied Europe during WWII). Both were well worth reading, and definately gave me what I was hoping for out of my Spring Break (withough quitting my job, and leaving my Family for a week's worth of screwing drunk co-eds in Mexico).

Anyhow, thanks for all of the recomendations. I'm sure that some of them will wind up on my Summer Reading list.

-Sik