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Title: Should control of the internet be given to the UN?
Post by: Krusher on March 02, 2005, 06:11:42 PM
I don't think the UN has any claims to the Internet.  If they get control of any type it will lead to some sort of tax/wealth redistrabution BS.

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China's ambassador to the United Nations last week called for international controls on the Internet.

Chinese Ambassador Sha Zukang told a UN conference that controls should be multilateral, transparent and democratic, with the full involvement of governments, the private sector, civil society and international organizations.

"It should ensure an equitable distribution of resources, facilitate access for all and ensure a stable and secure functioning," he said at the conference on Internet governance.

Sha said China opposes the "monopolization" of the Internet by one state, a reference to the Untied States, which ultimately controls the digital medium.
Title: Should control of the internet be given to the UN?
Post by: GtoRA2 on March 02, 2005, 06:27:30 PM
The UN could **** up a wet dream.

They should not handle anything important.
Title: Should control of the internet be given to the UN?
Post by: FUNKED1 on March 02, 2005, 06:40:35 PM
They can barely control their bowel movements.  Control of the internet should be in the Pentagon.
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Post by: Chortle on March 02, 2005, 06:45:19 PM
China talking about democracy and access to the internet for all? Now thats funny.
Title: Should control of the internet be given to the UN?
Post by: Tumor on March 02, 2005, 06:45:30 PM
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Originally posted by FUNKED1
They can barely control their bowel movements.  Control of the internet should be in the Pentagon.


Krush!!!  Hey dood... I'm gonna need my tin-foil hat back!! :D
Title: Should control of the internet be given to the UN?
Post by: Thrawn on March 02, 2005, 06:52:35 PM
Heh, what are they willing to give the US in return?
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Post by: medicboy on March 02, 2005, 07:00:10 PM
Not only no but hell no...................
Title: Should control of the internet be given to the UN?
Post by: DREDIOCK on March 02, 2005, 07:00:50 PM
oh I can see it now.
some jerk puts up a child porn site and it takes 10 years  of UN resolutions to do something about it
Title: Re: Should control of the internet be given to the UN?
Post by: Fishu on March 02, 2005, 07:09:05 PM
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Originally posted by Krusher
Sha said China opposes the "monopolization" of the Internet by one state, a reference to the Untied States, which ultimately controls the digital medium.


First I was like wtf, but then I realised the chinese doesn't want the USA to control the internet, but rather something else, which is made up of multiple countries.

Reading some of the replies, I wonder do they really think the USA could do any better... especially when alot of the people in charge are rather conservative.
You simply cannot rely on a conservative control of the internet.
Title: Should control of the internet be given to the UN?
Post by: OIO on March 02, 2005, 07:13:15 PM
not only that.. but to give up control of the internet to the UN means the US will be open to economic sanctions VIA the internet by any UN member.

Think about it... US does something the useless UN doesnt like? Other members call for sanctions and voila! E-commerce can be instantly affected.

Just one of the many problems that would cause.
Title: Should control of the internet be given to the UN?
Post by: Sandman on March 02, 2005, 07:17:17 PM
Bah... good luck. The internet is already under corporate control.

The future is Rollerball. ;)
Title: Should control of the internet be given to the UN?
Post by: Fishu on March 02, 2005, 07:25:56 PM
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Originally posted by OIO
not only that.. but to give up control of the internet to the UN means the US will be open to economic sanctions VIA the internet by any UN member.

Think about it... US does something the useless UN doesnt like? Other members call for sanctions and voila! E-commerce can be instantly affected.


Yeah right, the world is out there to get you, because they're all anti-american....

A news flash: it could been done already without anyone being in control of the internet and even without UN.
Title: Should control of the internet be given to the UN?
Post by: Lizking on March 02, 2005, 07:29:32 PM
No one can control the internet golbally, only locally.
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Post by: vorticon on March 02, 2005, 07:43:53 PM
:lol
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Post by: Gunslinger on March 02, 2005, 07:50:35 PM
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Originally posted by Lizking
No one can control the internet golbally, only locally.


THANK YOU! finally somone with actual thaught behind his post


HOW can you control something that doesnt really have a physical location or body?

How bout we hand over the breathing of AIR to the UN.  They can pass resolution after resolution to help sifle the Americans over breathing of Air with our sports and jogging and such.

BAH!  this is just down right scary when you think about it.  The one world govt wanting control over all electronic traffic and such.
Title: Should control of the internet be given to the UN?
Post by: vorticon on March 02, 2005, 07:56:37 PM
"No one can control the internet golbally, only locally."

unfortunatly, its just as hard to police the internet...maybe the next time some ****head creates a virus, he'll set it to target sites that shouldent be up in the first place...
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Post by: Fishu on March 02, 2005, 09:34:27 PM
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
THANK YOU! finally somone with actual thaught behind his post


HOW can you control something that doesnt really have a physical location or body?

How bout we hand over the breathing of AIR to the UN.  They can pass resolution after resolution to help sifle the Americans over breathing of Air with our sports and jogging and such.

BAH!  this is just down right scary when you think about it.  The one world govt wanting control over all electronic traffic and such.


1. By having a deal between majority of the countries/biggest countries, which closes out all other countries, which do not agree with the deal.
Those countries would be isolated outside of the internet. Sure they can have their "internet", but you couldn't access much anything outside the country, unless you have an another country aside you, which is outside of the deal. Just too bad if you're in a place like switzerland and the bordering countries are in the deal while yours is not.
Chances of success for this kind of a deal are quite low.

2. Stop bad mouthing the UN, it was only the chinese suggesting this. Most likely other member countries will ignore it as an impossible thought.
This is again one of those overrated UN bashing threads.
Why not to bash the US government because some of the congress members are trying to oust the pron and violent games from the net and computers?
Just as pointless.. stick to the facts, fault the responsible organizations instead.
Title: Should control of the internet be given to the UN?
Post by: TweetyBird on March 02, 2005, 09:36:52 PM
And what was the reason that the internet should be conrolled?
Title: Should control of the internet be given to the UN?
Post by: Fishu on March 02, 2005, 09:39:25 PM
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Originally posted by TweetyBird
And what was the reason that the internet should be conrolled?


Because chinese controls the internet usage of their citizens and don't see whats wrong with it, if they think that rest of the world should too.
They're also a superpower, which naturally doesn't want an another superpower to have too much monopoly over the internet activities.

Mind that the US government has also wanted to have better control over the content in the internet by signing deals with the other countries to help prosecute criminals and to close down sites with bad stuff.
Title: Should control of the internet be given to the UN?
Post by: Tumor on March 02, 2005, 09:40:07 PM
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Originally posted by TweetyBird
And what was the reason that the internet should be conrolled?
Title: Should control of the internet be given to the UN?
Post by: Gunslinger on March 02, 2005, 10:17:34 PM
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Originally posted by Fishu
1. By having a deal between majority of the countries/biggest countries, which closes out all other countries, which do not agree with the deal.
Those countries would be isolated outside of the internet. Sure they can have their "internet", but you couldn't access much anything outside the country, unless you have an another country aside you, which is outside of the deal. Just too bad if you're in a place like switzerland and the bordering countries are in the deal while yours is not.
Chances of success for this kind of a deal are quite low.

2. Stop bad mouthing the UN, it was only the chinese suggesting this. Most likely other member countries will ignore it as an impossible thought.
This is again one of those overrated UN bashing threads.
Why not to bash the US government because some of the congress members are trying to oust the pron and violent games from the net and computers?
Just as pointless.. stick to the facts, fault the responsible organizations instead.



1.  ummmm again how can you control the internet.  You can get it via hardlines OR satilite there's not too many ways a country can get "SHUT OFF"

But besides that what can the UN do to prevent this from happening?  NOTHING cause you CANT CONTROL THE INTERNET

2.  I'm not bashing the UN I just do not trust them.  Giving a "one world body" control over all types of communications and band width is crazy.  If my govt wants to ban child pornography or video games that are too violent/mature for kids from kids than that should be MY country's business and not the bloddy UNs

If China wants to keep their populace from seeing outside it's borders or N. Korea wants to keep up its public propaganda machine so its citizens are inept to history and the ways of the world that by all means that's THEIR business.

YOU CANT CONTROL THE INTERNET ITS NOT MEANT NOR ABLE TO BE CONTROLLED.

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which closes out all other countries, which do not agree with the deal.


name once were this has happend.



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stick to the facts, fault the responsible organizations instead


I'm not sure what facts you are referring to.  If I don't like the UN or its agenda that's my business.  My post wasnt based on that its based on this little thing we like to call REALITY!
Title: Should control of the internet be given to the UN?
Post by: -tronski- on March 02, 2005, 10:20:26 PM
Skynet already controls the internet....


 Tronsky
Title: Should control of the internet be given to the UN?
Post by: JB88 on March 02, 2005, 10:34:58 PM
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Originally posted by Chortle
China talking about democracy and access to the internet for all? Now thats funny.


i was thinking the exact same thing.

wow.  slowwwww down there china.
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Post by: Gunslinger on March 02, 2005, 10:45:40 PM
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Originally posted by JB88
i was thinking the exact same thing.

wow.  slowwwww down there china.


were at in Omaha are you from?  I grew up in Millard.
Title: Should control of the internet be given to the UN?
Post by: Thrawn on March 02, 2005, 11:06:34 PM
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Originally posted by OIO
not only that.. but to give up control of the internet to the UN means the US will be open to economic sanctions VIA the internet by any UN member.

Think about it... US does something the useless UN doesnt like? Other members call for sanctions...



...and the US vetos it.  Voila, no sanctions.
Title: Should control of the internet be given to the UN?
Post by: Silat on March 03, 2005, 02:52:20 AM
I should be in charge.
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Post by: Staga on March 03, 2005, 02:59:43 AM
Free Nelso... errr... ahem..

Free Intardnet!
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Post by: Gh0stFT on March 03, 2005, 03:25:28 AM
hm didnt Al Gore invented the Internet ?
He holds all the right then, no chance for China ;)
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Post by: Raider179 on March 03, 2005, 03:27:03 AM
Whats the internet?
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Post by: Heater on March 03, 2005, 05:25:48 AM
I would not give control of ANYTHING to the UN
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Post by: Skydancer on March 03, 2005, 05:33:02 AM
China!

Course they want controls. They already control their citizens internet access. What they want is that we all do too. then they can forget about their end as there wont be a need for them to control.

( urm does that make sense?)

One global body controlling freedoms. no way.
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Post by: Siaf__csf on March 03, 2005, 06:09:23 AM
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YOU CANT CONTROL THE INTERNET ITS NOT MEANT NOR ABLE TO BE CONTROLLED.


:rofl
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Post by: lazs2 on March 03, 2005, 08:03:39 AM
you guys better watch what you say or they will send some blue helmeted pakistani to your house to shoot the crap outta you for logging on to ammoman.com.

The UN... what a friggin joke... Why don't they move to fishu land where they would be appreciated?

lazs
Title: Should control of the internet be given to the UN?
Post by: Fishu on March 03, 2005, 08:29:33 AM
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Originally posted by lazs2
you guys better watch what you say or they will send some blue helmeted pakistani to your house to shoot the crap outta you for logging on to ammoman.com.

The UN... what a friggin joke... Why don't they move to fishu land where they would be appreciated?


Apparently the john wayne lone cowboy country is doing better by removing evil Saddam from Iraq, along with his threatful non-existant truck loads of WMD. All the while ignoring the UN's scepticism with the existance of WMD and concern of what happens after the war.

I guess it is a joke to be right.
All the blaming just because the UN didn't see things in same light with Bush.
Title: Should control of the internet be given to the UN?
Post by: lazs2 on March 03, 2005, 08:33:27 AM
the UN didn't see the sadman as anything but a paycheck..

the UN is a joke that would be totaly insignificant if the U.S. pulled out.   I do not wish for the UN to have any say whatsoever in my life or those of my fellow Americans.

If you wish to be nannied by them then that is up to you but get em out of my country.

lazs
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Post by: Pongo on March 03, 2005, 10:20:53 AM
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Originally posted by FUNKED1
They can barely control their bowel movements.  Control of the internet should be in the Pentagon.


lol thanks mike. you owe me half a coffee.

I think if the UN controled the internet then US planes wouldnt be so over modeled in Aces High. They could pass rules about that coudnt they?

Plus they would force HT to include the La9.
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Post by: indy007 on March 03, 2005, 10:54:36 AM
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Originally posted by Pongo
lol thanks mike. you owe me half a coffee.

I think if the UN controled the internet then US planes wouldnt be so over modeled in Aces High. They could pass rules about that coudnt they?

Plus they would force HT to include the La9.


You're confused.

There'd be AI controlled fighters flown by pilots with blue helmets that would enforce peace between the Rooks, Bish, & Nits by vulching anybody that tried to take off.
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Post by: Maverick on March 03, 2005, 11:07:53 AM
The UN shouldn't even be in charge of the UN. Oh wait, I'm not sure they are......




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