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Title: Panzer Drivers Nightmare
Post by: Furball on March 03, 2005, 03:38:58 PM

(http://www.hawkertempest.se/sn354.jpg)

Title: Panzer Drivers Nightmare
Post by: Engine on March 03, 2005, 03:43:56 PM

Why? One ping from the gunner will knock out the radiator. :)

Title: Panzer Drivers Nightmare
Post by: Furball on March 03, 2005, 03:52:03 PM

because i hate you.  thats why.

:)

Title: Panzer Drivers Nightmare
Post by: Engine on March 03, 2005, 03:55:52 PM

SILENCIO!
okok fine I know you're dying to tell us about the plane, so spit it out.  How large are them cannon?

Title: Panzer Drivers Nightmare
Post by: SunTracker on March 03, 2005, 04:41:40 PM

So what are those tiny cannons going to do to a Tiger when 75mm shells couldnt even bust through?

Title: Meet b25
Post by: YUCCA on March 03, 2005, 05:05:17 PM

(http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/URG/images/b25-013.jpg)

(http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/URG/images/b25-014.jpg)

Title: Panzer Drivers Nightmare
Post by: GRUNHERZ on March 03, 2005, 05:39:13 PM

Why was the front quarter window blanked out like that on so many B25?

Title: Panzer Drivers Nightmare
Post by: hawker238 on March 03, 2005, 07:45:58 PM

Quote

Originally posted by Engine
SILENCIO!
okok fine I know you're dying to tell us about the plane, so spit it out.  How large are them cannon?

47mm Vickers.

Title: Panzer Drivers Nightmare
Post by: Karnak on March 03, 2005, 07:55:02 PM

Mosquito FB.Mk XVIII with the 57mm Molins automatic cannon:
(http://members.arstechnica.com/x/karnak/fbxviii.jpg)
Two shots of FB.Mk XVIII's noses:
(http://members.arstechnica.com/x/karnak/mxiii.jpg)(http://members.arstechnica.com/x/karnak/tsetse.jpg)
A 57mm round (left) and the Molins gun being fired in flight (right):
(http://members.arstechnica.com/x/karnak/57.jpg)(http://members.arstechnica.com/x/karnak/molins_shoot.jpg)

Title: Panzer Drivers Nightmare
Post by: Urchin on March 04, 2005, 06:37:12 AM

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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Why was the front quarter window blanked out like that on so many B25?

I'd imagine to keep the side mounted .50s muzzle-flash from blinding the pilot, but I could be wrong.

Title: Panzer Drivers Nightmare
Post by: Kweassa on March 04, 2005, 11:52:06 AM

woops disregard

Title: Panzer Drivers Nightmare
Post by: nirvana on March 04, 2005, 04:35:44 PM

Like the 50MM on the 262, did the 57MM on the Mossie eject a blinding light when it was fired?  It looks like it did but since it has a little bit of top protection i'm not sure........

Title: Panzer Drivers Nightmare
Post by: Karnak on March 04, 2005, 05:00:40 PM

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Originally posted by nirvana
Like the 50MM on the 262, did the 57MM on the Mossie eject a blinding light when it was fired?  It looks like it did but since it has a little bit of top protection i'm not sure........

I've never read of any issues with it.

The 50mm installation on the Me262 was never fully operational.  It was tested against American bombers, and then discontinued.  The 57mm armed Mosquitos saw quite a bit of service considering only 27 were built.

Title: Panzer Drivers Nightmare
Post by: SELECTOR on March 04, 2005, 06:10:42 PM

typhoon was the most feared attack plane as far as the german panzer crews we concerned..

Title: B25 window
Post by: CYLONN on March 06, 2005, 12:42:33 AM

Partly right Urchin, it was to protect the pilots' vision from the muzzle blast from the 75mm cannon. This version of the Mitchell was used primarily as an anti ship weapon in the South Pacific, though it would do a number on any Japanese tank.:)

Title: Panzer Drivers Nightmare
Post by: Ecliptik on March 06, 2005, 12:53:02 AM

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Originally posted by SunTracker
So what are those tiny cannons going to do to a Tiger when 75mm shells couldnt even bust through?

The armor on the top of the turret is thin and vulnerable to smaller caliber fire (37-40mm high velocity AP could certainly punch through).  Aerial attack was a tanker's greatest fear.