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Title: N1K2-J remodel...and new japanese navy aircraft??
Post by: Mitsu on March 04, 2005, 09:17:01 AM
Give us hints...

- N1K1...variants of N1K2-J.
- J2M3...famous excellent intercepter.
- G4M...famous japanese bomber.
- H8K2...excellent flying-boat/bomber.

If you need reference, I and busa or other Japanese guys will provide a lot of data. :)

and, about IJAAF.

Ki-100 - excellent dogfighter.
Ki-43 - famous IJAAF main fighter.
Ki-44 - good intercepter witj cute form. :D

HTC, I hope you guys will give us more Japanese planes ASAP!!! :rolleyes:

Cheers.
Title: N1K2-J remodel...and new japanese navy aircraft??
Post by: Jester on March 04, 2005, 04:34:55 PM
D4Y Suisei "JUDY"
(http://www.j-aircraft.com/gallery/navy/d4y_gallery_files/d4y-kim_fowler_01l.jpg)

B7A Ryusei  "GRACE"
(http://www.ares.cz/hobby/hasegawa/picture/jt49.jpg)

Would be nice to have also.
Title: N1K2-J remodel...and new japanese navy aircraft??
Post by: SELECTOR on March 04, 2005, 06:08:29 PM
light the blue touch paper and stand well back..

i'm all for more japaneasy stuff
Title: N1K2-J remodel...and new japanese navy aircraft??
Post by: StarOfAfrica2 on March 04, 2005, 07:26:04 PM
Ah Mitsu, you forgot the Betty!  Desperate need there for early war Pacific setups.

(edit)

Never mind.  lol

Eyesight going I think.  I read his post 3 times and didnt see it.
Title: N1K2-J remodel...and new japanese navy aircraft??
Post by: Karnak on March 04, 2005, 07:39:53 PM
StarOfAfrica2,

No he didn't.  

"- G4M...famous japanese bomber." is the Betty.
Title: N1K2-J remodel...and new japanese navy aircraft??
Post by: Glasses on March 04, 2005, 08:51:26 PM
I guess I shall keep my midgets in a leash and see what Pyro does ,last time I threatened him with my cannibalistic munchkins you got the Ki-84 .

I see what I can do.
Title: N1K2-J remodel...and new japanese navy aircraft??
Post by: Soulyss on March 04, 2005, 09:50:45 PM
Did I miss somthing?
Title: N1K2-J remodel...and new japanese navy aircraft??
Post by: Grits on March 04, 2005, 10:03:32 PM
Pyro said he was going to work on the Niki's flight model and Mistu (and others) are hoping to get another new Japanese plane.

I vote for the J2M, Ki43 and G4M.
Title: N1K2-J remodel...and new japanese navy aircraft??
Post by: Soulyss on March 05, 2005, 12:54:13 PM
Ahhh, swanky.
Title: N1K2-J remodel...and new japanese navy aircraft??
Post by: Kweassa on March 05, 2005, 07:55:19 PM
Just out of curiosity, what's subject for change if the N1K2-J gets a new FM? Speed? Climb? Turn? Low-speed characterstics?? Ability to 'hang-on-the-props'?
Title: N1K2-J remodel...and new japanese navy aircraft??
Post by: storch on March 06, 2005, 12:13:49 AM
Ki-100 this ubiquetous model should definitely be represented.
Title: N1K2-J remodel...and new japanese navy aircraft??
Post by: Mitsu on March 06, 2005, 08:06:02 AM
(http://www.pacific-fighters.com/ss/Ki-100_051.jpg)

(http://www.pacific-fighters.com/ss/Ki-100_071.jpg)

:)
Title: N1K2-J remodel...and new japanese navy aircraft??
Post by: Ryusei on March 06, 2005, 08:33:20 AM
Just as my little hope, having a B7A2 Ryusei-Kai is a dream:)
Great dive/torpedo bomber with #8 bomb (800kg) load, "graceful" inverted gull wings and, ah, 2x20mm cannons.  Then I will not have to fly a val any more:D
Title: N1K2-J remodel...and new japanese navy aircraft??
Post by: storch on March 06, 2005, 09:14:55 AM
grrrrrr that danged oleg.  thanks for posting the shots mitsu.  yup ryusei, then maybe we could do damage in the ct during PAC set ups

does ryusei mean dragon spirit?
Title: N1K2-J remodel...and new japanese navy aircraft??
Post by: Sikboy on March 06, 2005, 10:06:31 AM
Judy Judy judy.

-Sik
Title: N1K2-J remodel...and new japanese navy aircraft??
Post by: Mitsu on March 06, 2005, 02:46:09 PM
BTW I hope to see J2M3 Raiden, personally.
Title: N1K2-J remodel...and new japanese navy aircraft??
Post by: Kweassa on March 06, 2005, 03:09:09 PM
Mitsu-sama!!!

 What happened to Aero's gunsights??

 I really want to use those high quality gunsights on my planes (w) :D ..
Title: N1K2-J remodel...and new japanese navy aircraft??
Post by: Mitsu on March 07, 2005, 07:18:35 PM
Kweassa-sama,

He's having a technical problem in RAF Type1mk2 gunsight.
Wait till he solves the issue.

Thanks.
Title: N1K2-J remodel...and new japanese navy aircraft??
Post by: Urchin on March 07, 2005, 08:30:45 PM
The Ki-100 was hardly ubiquitous... it was a re-engined Ki-61.  Not more than a few hundred were made if I recall correctly.
Title: N1K2-J remodel...and new japanese navy aircraft??
Post by: Karnak on March 07, 2005, 11:45:38 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Urchin
The Ki-100 was hardly ubiquitous... it was a re-engined Ki-61.  Not more than a few hundred were made if I recall correctly.

You are correct on all counts.
Title: N1K2-J remodel...and new japanese navy aircraft??
Post by: Ryusei on March 08, 2005, 06:35:20 AM
Quote
Originally posted by storch
grrrrrr that danged oleg.  thanks for posting the shots mitsu.  yup ryusei, then maybe we could do damage in the ct during PAC set ups

does ryusei mean dragon spirit?


Storch:

Ryu-Sei = Shooting Star

btw Suisei (Judy) = Comet

Ah, my ID really embarrassed myself ^^;
Title: N1K2-J remodel...and new japanese navy aircraft??
Post by: FDutchmn on March 08, 2005, 07:26:21 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Urchin
Not more than a few hundred were made if I recall correctly.


just for your interest...

Quote
from  Aircraft of the World (http://www.csd.uwo.ca/~pettypi/elevon/baugher_other/)
A total of 396 Ki-100s were built, including 275 Ki-61-II conversions, 118 Ki-100-Ib production aircraft built from scratch, and three Ki-100-II prototypes.


while the N1K2-J...

Quote
from  Aircraft of the World (http://www.csd.uwo.ca/~pettypi/elevon/baugher_other/)
Only 415 production examples of the outstanding N1K2-J fighter were built, owing primarily to construction snags and delays resulting from the continuous B-29 raids on the Japanese homeland in the last year of the war.


while the Ki-84...

Quote
from  Aircraft of the World (http://www.csd.uwo.ca/~pettypi/elevon/baugher_other/)
Total production of the Hayate by all factories was 3514, including prototypes and service trials aircraft.  
Title: N1K2-J remodel...and new japanese navy aircraft??
Post by: storch on March 09, 2005, 07:17:46 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Ryusei
Storch:

Ryu-Sei = Shooting Star

btw Suisei (Judy) = Comet

Ah, my ID really embarrassed myself ^^;


Thankyou for the clarification Ryusei
Title: N1K2-J remodel...and new japanese navy aircraft??
Post by: Jester on March 09, 2005, 05:58:27 PM
Quote
Originally posted by storch
Ki-100 this ubiquetous model should definitely be represented.


The KI-100's performance was virtually similar to the KI-61 KAI we have. Had a little bit better climb but wasn't as fast. Armament was the same.

IMHO would would get more useage out of the JUDY & GRACE carrier bombers or the TOJO, JACK or even the OSCAR fighters.
Title: N1K2-J remodel...and new japanese navy aircraft??
Post by: Slash27 on March 09, 2005, 06:28:43 PM
I vote for the J2M, Ki43 and G4M.

Id like to see the Ki 44.




then maybe we could do damage in the ct during PAC set ups

We already can. I just figured out the Ki 84 kicks ass. Ive totaly changed my mind about her after the last few days.
Title: N1K2-J remodel...and new japanese navy aircraft??
Post by: storch on March 09, 2005, 06:36:19 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Jester
The KI-100's performance was virtually similar to the KI-61 KAI we have. Had a little bit better climb but wasn't as fast. Armament was the same.

IMHO would would get more useage out of the JUDY & GRACE carrier bombers or the TOJO, JACK or even the OSCAR fighters.


Well, this has no bearing on the game (it is after all an axis model) but in RL it was reported to turn much better than the Ki61.  while the speeds were close (the Ki100 had the 1500 hp Ha112 radial as opposed to the Ki61's 1175hp Ha40 inline) the Ki100 had a much better climb rate than the Ki61.  Perhaps some of us feel that they were sufficiently different to merit representation in the game, not that I suspect we ever will get it.

we could use more Japanese planes of all types.  certainly Japan fielded some fine aircraft and they would add greater depth to the game.
Title: N1K2-J remodel...and new japanese navy aircraft??
Post by: storch on March 09, 2005, 06:39:37 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Slash27
I vote for the J2M, Ki43 and G4M.

Id like to see the Ki 44.




then maybe we could do damage in the ct during PAC set ups

We already can. I just figured out the Ki 84 kicks ass. Ive totaly changed my mind about her after the last few days.


I haven't flown it much I can't see the gauges very well and the visibilty is terrible.
Title: N1K2-J remodel...and new japanese navy aircraft??
Post by: Slash27 on March 09, 2005, 06:49:05 PM
I dont have any issues with visibility. I cant read the gauges either. I hated the thing at first and could never get a handle on it. I got a wild hair the other night and just felt like flying her. For what ever reason I got a better feel for it. Its really a great ride.
Title: N1K2-J remodel...and new japanese navy aircraft??
Post by: Jester on March 09, 2005, 06:54:44 PM
Quote
Originally posted by storch

we could use more Japanese planes of all types.  certainly Japan fielded some fine aircraft and they would add greater depth to the game.


Agree with you there 110% Storchie.

The Japanese plane set has the biggest holes of any in the game IMHO and should have TOP PRIORITY for any new planes made.
Title: N1K2-J remodel...and new japanese navy aircraft??
Post by: 1K3 on March 10, 2005, 11:23:43 PM
NOW THIS IS HOW THE NIK WILL LOOK LIKE IN AH2...

(http://www.rollmodels.net/nreviews/airplanes/48georgebell/stbd3.jpg)

(http://www.rollmodels.net/nreviews/airplanes/48georgebell/stbd2.jpg)

(http://www.rollmodels.net/nreviews/airplanes/48georgebell/port1.jpg)

Note that the NIK has the same type flaps as ki-84
Title: N1K2-J remodel...and new japanese navy aircraft??
Post by: bunch on March 11, 2005, 04:20:03 AM
that type of paint hurts your glide ratio & acceleration much more than you would expect
Title: N1K2-J remodel...and new japanese navy aircraft??
Post by: Engine on March 11, 2005, 09:11:18 AM
You get used to the Ki84 gauges quickly. The only two you really need to watch in it are the alt and speed gauges.  The forward framing stinks, and it can be tricky taking snapshots.  Rear view is excellent though, and the plane has truly superb performance. Get used to the gauges, start roping newbs, and you're golden. :)
Title: N1K2-J remodel...and new japanese navy aircraft??
Post by: Sikboy on March 11, 2005, 09:39:36 AM
Quote
Originally posted by storch
Well, this has no bearing on the game (it is after all an axis model) but in RL it was reported to turn much better than the Ki61.  while the speeds were close (the Ki100 had the 1500 hp Ha112 radial as opposed to the Ki61's 1175hp Ha40 inline) the Ki100 had a much better climb rate than the Ki61.  Perhaps some of us feel that they were sufficiently different to merit representation in the game, not that I suspect we ever will get it.

we could use more Japanese planes of all types.  certainly Japan fielded some fine aircraft and they would add greater depth to the game.


Aside from the typcial rubish...

I would agree about the Ki-61/Ki-100 being different enough to justify the modeling. But the Ki-100 wasn't available until 1945... it's essentailly a late war fighter with Mid war performance.

In some of my crappy references, the Ki-100 A1 has a worse climb time to 5000 meters than the Ki-61-1b (and I have no idea how accurate these designations are). I don't know how they would relate to the Ki-61 we have (though I wouldn't be surprised if they had better low alt climb).

I guess what I'm saying is that, especially for events and the CT, the Ki-100 won't really add much, since the Ki-84 and N1k2 will generally be available whenever the Ki-100 is, and they perform. From what I can tell from Gunston and other mediocre references, it might have an edge in service ceiling (and maybe high alt performance?). That might be worth something in a "Defense of the Home Islands" type of scenario.

With that said, I think that the J2M, A6M3 and Ki-43 would be a bit more usefull.

And of course... JUDY JUDY JUDY

-Sik
Title: N1K2-J remodel...and new japanese navy aircraft??
Post by: DiabloTX on March 11, 2005, 06:34:41 PM
Quote
Originally posted by 1K3
NOW THIS IS HOW THE NIK WILL LOOK LIKE IN AH2...

(http://www.rollmodels.net/nreviews/airplanes/48georgebell/stbd3.jpg)

(http://www.rollmodels.net/nreviews/airplanes/48georgebell/stbd2.jpg)

(http://www.rollmodels.net/nreviews/airplanes/48georgebell/port1.jpg)

Note that the NIK has the same type flaps as ki-84


Now it really IS over-modelled.  To attain that level of kit building and resort to dry-brushing technique for weathering is just sad.  It's a damn fine model though, short of the the dry-brushing.
Title: N1K2-J remodel...and new japanese navy aircraft??
Post by: Mitsu on March 12, 2005, 04:06:26 PM
Gimme the Ki-100 for Mitsudog.
It has 500 20mm shells too. It's for HO dweeb!.